Are you a leecher?

[Seedler]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D

[Alien5]

i seed it to 150% , when i forget how long its been seeding for :huh:

[Peerzy]

You're an idiot.

1) I'd like to see you upload 500% on a 60gb file of a DVDR box set, only people who could realistically do that is if they were the original seeder on a T1/T3 line.
2) 1:1 Ratio is all anyone should do.
3) No one's going to admit to being a leecher.

[manker]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :DIt's impossible to always seed to 500% if you use 28 day trackers like TBs or specialist music trackers like Oink. There simply aren't enough people who want what you've got. Tho' if you use TorrentSpy a lot, then I guess you can.

I seed as much as I can but could never average 500%. Here's what's in my ABC client right now:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2632/snag03051an.jpg

[Seedler]

In reply to Peerzy

First of all I [B]always seed to 500%, because my computer is turned on and seeding 90%+ of the time. I use Azureus and I stop uploading at 500%.

Also, why state extremes situations no one's ever going to encounter? The largest files people download do not even come close to 60GB. So think before you choose a ludicrous number.

I have DSL 768K, which is perfectly capable of handling approx. 5 uploads at any given time with enough bandwidth conserved for other internet activities.

And I don't appreciate being called an idiot, so I must say that you are pitifully pathetic if you aren't capable to rationalize your insults and post more than one-word affronts.

[Samurai]

I leech all the time. I don't upload whatsoever :01:

[Biggles]

Why isn't there a wtf option?

I need a wtf option.

[cpt_azad]

In reply to Peerzy

First of all I [B]always seed to 500%, because my computer is turned on and seeding 90%+ of the time. I use Azureus and I stop uploading at 500%.

Also, why state extremes situations no one's ever going to encounter? The largest files people download do not even come close to 60GB. So think before you choose a ludicrous number.

I have DSL 768K, which is perfectly capable of handling approx. 5 uploads at any given time with enough bandwidth conserved for other internet activities.

And I don't appreciate being called an idiot, so I must say that you are pitifully pathetic if you aren't capable to rationalize your insults and post more than one-word affronts.

Damn good post :)

(Now shield yourself from Peerz's next post :pinch:)

I try to seed 150-200%, but most of the time its 150%.

[Seedler]

[QUOTE=Seedler]In reply to Peerzy

Damn good post :)



Thanks, all I can say is damn hot pic :D

[Rip The Jacker]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D
It's almost impossible to seed bigger files to 500% on most private trackers. Usually there are 200+ seeders and 10-20 leechers, "There simply aren't enough people who want what you've got."

Seeding to 500%? I find that hard to believe... :wacko:

[Peerzy]

In reply to Peerzy

First of all I [B]always seed to 500%, because my computer is turned on and seeding 90%+ of the time. I use Azureus and I stop uploading at 500%.

Also, why state extremes situations no one's ever going to encounter? The largest files people download do not even come close to 60GB. So think before you choose a ludicrous number.

I have DSL 768K, which is perfectly capable of handling approx. 5 uploads at any given time with enough bandwidth conserved for other internet activities.

And I don't appreciate being called an idiot, so I must say that you are pitifully pathetic if you aren't capable to rationalize your insults and post more than one-word affronts.


DSL 768k? i take it thats your download speed.

768 divided by 8 will work out your max KB's per second (Thats what BT reads transfer speeds as)

768 / 8= 96kb/s

Now depending on your ISP your upload will vary from 16kb/s up to a maximum of 96kb/s (I've never seen an ISP that offers more upload than download)

So lets round 96kb/s up to 100kb/s just to make the maths easier.

We all know there is 1000kb's in 1mb. And for example lets say we downloaded a 700mb movie and would be seeding that to a 500% ratio.

So we need to do 700 times by 5.

700 * 5 = 3500 (3.5GB)

Still with me? Good...

Time it would take to upload 1mb would be 1000 divided by 100 (Thats 1000 because 1mb is 1000kb and 100 because 100kb is our max upload)

1000 / 100 = 10

10 seconds per megabyte.

So now we need to do 10 (seconds) multiplied by 3500 (The ammount we are going to seed)

3500 * 10 = 35000

So it'll take up 35000 seconds to upload that file at 100kbs.

Divide that by 60 and we get how long in minute's it will take us.

35000 / 60 = 583.33333

Now divide that again by 60 to get it in hours.

583.33333 / 60 = 9.72222222

So about 9 hours 45minutes.

Now thats if you can upload at 100kb/s

Avarage UK user has an upload of 32kb/s

33 is one third of 100 so it would take the avarage 3 times longer than your 9 hours 45 minutes.

So lets do 9.72222222222 * 3 = 29.1666666666666666666

Just a little over 29 hours, 1 day and 5 hours to upload a 700mb 5 times, and let me remind you, this is only if you have the peers to upload to.

Also lets just have a look at the latest 10 releases on TorrentBytes and there file size's (Excluding Music):

Flightplan.TC.DVDR-ROYAL
Dragonball-Z.Disc-12.TB-Exclusive
ROH.071605.Fate.Of.An.Angel.VHSRiP-LionsDen
Ass.Fuck.1.XXX.DVDRip.XviD-Pr0nStarS
World.Series.of.Poker.2005.E23.E24-LionsDen
TAITO.LEGENDS-DEViANCE
Star.Wars.EP3-BONUS.DISC.2005.NTSC.DVDR-XPDVD
Will.And.Grace.S08E04.HDTV.XviD-TCM
The.Apprentice.S04E05.PDTV.XviD-TCM
Everybody.Hates.Chris.S01E05.HDTV.XviD-LOL

And the filesizes are as follows:

4.30GB
4.38GB
1.77GB
1.37GB
932.35MB
331.36MB
174.99MB
349.38MB
174.54MB

Add the file sizes up and you get 13780MB, and divide by 10 to get an avarage, that equals 1370MB, which is only 30mb of being double out 700mb file, meaning it would take double to upload the file 5 times.

29 hours doubled is 58 hours.

2 Days 10 hours, and again the chances of having a peer taking your full upload for the whole time is slim to none. Also 32kb/s is only theoretically your max, in pratice it's only about 29/30kb/s.

Now doing that for each file you want, seeding at full upload for nearly 2 and half days would mean you wouldn't be able to download in that time (Downloading cuts your upload by a lot)

I get roughly 3-5 releases each day (Not from BT though, thankfully)

3 releases a day at our avarage size and uploading each 5 times would mean 290 hours of uploading, per day.

Over 11 days worth of uploading on the national standard upload speed for the UK.

:01:


EDIT: The LOTR Extended Edition Trilogy seed on TB was if i remember correctly about 68GB large and 4 discs for each movie. Also it was the second most popular torrent ever on there, just slightly behind Doom 3.

[Samurai]

We know this guy's chatting shit, why entertain him?

Still good that you stated all of the above though, but remember that there 1024 bits in 1MB so it would take even longer on his connection ;)

[Rip The Jacker]

Pwned. :lol:

Nicely done Peerzy...

[peat moss]

I don't understand the seeding part but using 4 different p2p programs and share all .

Not using bittorents but understand the need to let people finish D/L from me . :)

[maebach]

seeding to 500% is nearly impossible. I can honestly say, on private trackers I do as much as possible (usually 1.5) and public (depending on the number of users) .90. If theres a few seeders on the public tracker I'll seed alot more.

[Peerzy]

We know this guy's chatting shit, why entertain him?

Still good that you stated all of the above though, but remember that there 1024 bits in 1MB so it would take even longer on his connection ;)


Yeah i rounded a few numbers such as the 1024 kb to 1MB and i rounded the 96kb/s upload up to 100kb/s just to make the maths easier for him.

[dNMe]

500% hahaha make me laugh

[kazaaman]

You would need like Internet 2 shit to see 500% if it was a big file. Smaller files I can understand. But seeding a file thats 68 gigs to 500%, thats some bull.

[GepperRankins]

120%


500% is bullshit

[GepperRankins]

i'm changing it to 150% now :snooty:

[TurpoUrpo]

As long as i can.. usually its something 150%-200% sometimes 500%+..

[Xilo]

On one torrent site I actually care about, I seed everything till there are no peers I can connect to left.

[unistructure]

i wish i could seed 500% but my upload speed max's out at 50 kbps. Plus other faster seeders would have already uploaded to all the people who want what i have, so that leaves no one to leech from me

[mikeco]

150-200%, i normaly download stuff of newsgroups anyway and seed them at torrentbytes. :P

[Spart_aka_Argh]

Well I think 100% is good enough, you give what you take, but I usually seed longer :)

[mr. nails]

when i need to get caught up in my dl's i'll leech for about 50%. otherwise it's about 120%. anime i seed for anywhere between 100% - 300%.

i picked the 80% - 150% option.

edit* if there are no seeds or very few seeds i will seed 'til there are some.

[MsBrooke]

Man as a newbie I would love to have a chance to seed!! I need to find a site that has the 200+ seeders and 10 - 20 leechers. All I have seen is the reverse.

[wademalorgan]

I seem to only upload the amount that I download :( My ISP gives me crap for up speed.

wademalorgan

[MsBrooke]

Crap, what kind of crap? The call and complain??

[Mikesch]

If I had a better internet connection, I'd love to do share 1000% of the time...so till then, 30-50%

[jweicc]

Actually, I aimed to get 500+% ratio, it won't work on all torrents, but with a little micro-management, getting an overall 500% isn't unlikely though. it just depends what you dl, I can't dl like crazy because there's this download quota thing most ISPs of this country have.

[Wizard_Mon1]

If you do seed to 500% on private trackers then you cause a problem because you take away 4 peoples ability to reach a 1:1 ratio. People with larger conx who share more than 1:1 reduce the likelyhood of people with smaller conx being able to reach a 1:1 ratio. Seed what you get but seeding more doesn't make you a better person! This is not a competition is it about keeping the files alive and sharing, over sharing ruins that for others!

[okili]

i usually seed approximately 300% if upload speed is high and it's not very big file

[raspberry1331]

it's a nice thing to aim for 500%, but the world would be nicer if simply everebody would seed to 100%, that's enough to keep things going, as you may realise.

[Adam_231]

UK upload speeds suck, makes it difficult to get good ratios when you cant leave your puter on 24/7

[j0hn]

it's a nice thing to aim for 500%, but the world would be nicer if simply everebody would seed to 100%, that's enough to keep things going, as you may realise.
theres always data lost, and failed hash checks, so if everyone did 100% exactly, the world would end (not quite)
u should try aim for a minimum 105%

[WiiiE]

I usually try to stay around 1:1, so that everyone else has a chance of getting a good ratio.. :)

[EuphoricNoni]

I try hitting the 150% mark which In where I believe it is sharing a bit more but not over sharing...

[Warp]

My computer has been on for a week and this is what utorrent says:

Downloaded: 16.3GB Uploaded 43.7GB

not quite 500% but pretty good.

[step.down]

Everybody who says that they can't seed to whatever percentage is lying. The truth is you just don't want to.

@Peerzy
You say you get 3-5 releases a day, and that that's the reason you can't get a 500% ratio? If you wanted to get a 500% ratio you would download 1 release (I rounded up there to make the maths easier for you) and then you could seed a ratio around 300-500% better. It's not rocket science.

If people think that 1.5 is fair, then that's cool. I tend to keep mine 1.5 to 2.0 as much as I can, I think unless you are uploading new stuff to a tracker there's no reason to have a ratio of 5. Don't say you can't seed to 5, if you wanted to you could upload your own stuff and actually contribute to the community rather than recycling what's already there, it's easy.

Having said that, everybody can't seed to 500%, well done Seedler for being so amazing and better than all of us, but if you think about it, ridiculous ratios like that would be impossible for everybody to maintain. Unless there are people downloading, and thus hurting their ratios, then there's nobody to bump your ratio up. In an ideal world, everybody would keep something like a 1:1 ratio and be happy about it.

[fnf]

I always have at least a 2:1 ul/dl ratio, but normally its around 6:1, I like seeding :)

[Jäger]

Probably close to 80%

I try to stay close to 100%

On one tracker I'm on they don't want you to have higher than a .8 ratio....

[StreetBit]

I usually seed around 200%, on some private trackers though it isn’t unusal that I try to seed between 300-400%.

[chojin]

Well I aim for 150 - 200 %, if there is real demmand and they is only a few seeds I will stay as long as it takes


.

[uuujong]

really don't know, seeding 24/7, sometimes 50%..or 500%

[DrOctagon]

In reply to Peerzy

First of all I [B]always seed to 500%, because my computer is turned on and seeding 90%+ of the time. I use Azureus and I stop uploading at 500%.

Also, why state extremes situations no one's ever going to encounter? The largest files people download do not even come close to 60GB. So think before you choose a ludicrous number.

I have DSL 768K, which is perfectly capable of handling approx. 5 uploads at any given time with enough bandwidth conserved for other internet activities.

And I don't appreciate being called an idiot, so I must say that you are pitifully pathetic if you aren't capable to rationalize your insults and post more than one-word affronts.


You are an idiot, 60GB isn't a ludicrous number, this however is a ludicrous thread.

[obs0lete]

I usually seed thing to a 1.5/2.0 ratio if possible. I just let the torrents run for a few days...

[theflystyle]

lets be serious... if it was a perfect world and all the stuff i downloaded was wanted for as long as it took to make a great ratio... then i would be worrying about other things besides my ratios lol

[Willham]

SEEDING RULES!! i like to give other people the experience of my download speed, so i seed more than one ratio!! :D

[Peerzy]

@Peerzy
You say you get 3-5 releases a day, and that that's the reason you can't get a 500% ratio? If you wanted to get a 500% ratio you would download 1 release (I rounded up there to make the maths easier for you) and then you could seed a ratio around 300-500% better. It's not rocket science.


1 release a day at 1.4Gb would still take me 58 hours of uploading per day. To reach 500%. Either way i don't use BT anymore and havn't for ages. Check when i made my post, it was months ago.

[mantou]

I usually seed thing to a 1.5/2.0 ratio if possible. I just let the torrents run for a few days...
same here, althought it's tough without downloaders

[flipper321]

I'm in the main band of 80-150% with most others (always above 100% mind you).

As previously stated, upload speeds against download speeds are hugely prehibitive - as is numbers of downloaders on private trackers...

[Misiek]

No I Dont I`m A Seeder

[PeroMed]

i usuly seed until people want it, when i see there is no more connections i just delete it... :unsure:

[set23]

I hate to say it, but I am a leecher.... I just don't have enough upload to download everything I want at a positive ratio.

[james_bond_rulez]

i am a pure leech, on usenet that is

fucking sue me, assholes

[marlonbigtent]

I'll seed as long as the torrent is active on private sites! on public ones i'll seed about 150-200% give and take! thats what torrents are all about! iamagine if everybody did this d/l speeds would fly!

[j0hn]

I hate to say it, but I am a leecher.... I just don't have enough upload to download everything I want at a positive ratio.
download less then?
the vast majority of residential internet has a much slower upload speed.
i have a 230kB/s download speed, and only 30kB/s upload.
and i have a 2.0+ ratio on the majority of private trackers im on.
theres no reason why EVERYONE cant stick to 1.0 (1.05 preferably)

[maminoodles]

Much as I'd love to seed for eternity, my bandwidth can't handle it.. hehehe

[usmangujjar]

its impossible for everyone to have a ratio of over 1.0 ! coz there would not be enough downloads for everyone to have a ratio of 1.1 ! i would mean more uploads than downloads overall and u can only upload if some else is downloading, for that reason i usualy aim for about a 1.0 ratio

[j0hn]

yes its impossible for everyone to have 1.0
especially with the retards on private trackers who have 10.0+ ratios
it stops the rest of us uploading what we need to to maintain our own ratios.
saying that, i still think leechers/hit and runners even it out somewhat. more so on public trackers.
so if u try hard enough, i really see no reason why 1.05 is not achieveable by all :)

[mogizzle]

i hit and run:naughty: its not like i know any of the people on bittorrent. Its a waste of my time to seed. I have a life.

[j0hn]

if everyone did that, u wouldnt be able to download.

Its a waste of my time to seed. I have a life.
yea, cos u need to sit and watch for hours while it seeds?
its 100% no effort what so ever to leave ur client open, and use the bandwidth u've already paid ur isp for, to share a little.

i have a life too, and also dont know who im seeding to. but it doesnt waste any of my time to do so.

[orcutt989]

I only seed about 10-50%, but if I can I will more usually. My mom always logs me off the computer so I cant really seed more than that.. :[ I try to keep at least a 0.5 ratio... I wish I could be those guys that seed over 100%. Sometimes I do. But I wish I could all the time.

[Aphy]

On public trackers I try to seed back to at least a 1:1 ratio or 1.5, do something good for everyone in general.

[ssj4gogeta]

I almost always seed more than 500% on torrents that are less than 6gb, if they are bigger than that i at least seed to 150%.

[Hermiod]

On average I get to 120%, but it depends a lot. Some files just dont get past 30% while others go easily to 500%. Small files (less than 1m mb) i've managed to get to 1200%

[rguinn]

In reply to Peerzy

First of all I [B]always seed to 500%, because my computer is turned on and seeding 90%+ of the time. I use Azureus and I stop uploading at 500%.

Also, why state extremes situations no one's ever going to encounter? The largest files people download do not even come close to 60GB. So think before you choose a ludicrous number.

I have DSL 768K, which is perfectly capable of handling approx. 5 uploads at any given time with enough bandwidth conserved for other internet activities.

And I don't appreciate being called an idiot, so I must say that you are pitifully pathetic if you aren't capable to rationalize your insults and post more than one-word affronts.

Extreme situations? try getting 500% on anything at oink. there's currently 70,982 users encountering that 'extreme situation', which I believe is a few more than 'no one'.

also, there's currently a 40.68GB torrent at oink, and there used to be one well over 100GB.

[carlosfgz]

i always try to be a seeder as much as i can... once i finish downloading a file i seed it for at least 3 days.... :D

[naamah]

eh, public trackers I usually go until about 75% (0.75), private trackers I usually go until about 200% (2.0)

[KyouryokuX]

Thankfully I have 1MB ADSL in my room so the PC is always on. On public trackers I seed to about 80% and on private trackers I wait untill there are no leechers yet or until its above 100%.

[piotrek]

on UK-T a have PU and on TL

[Ignacy]

on FL (ratio 5) I only upload:)

[007craft]

..

[007craft]

I try to give back as much as possible. My ISP recently put a cap on my monthly bandwidth of 100GB, but that just means I need to be more selective with my downloads.

[MarkJM]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D
It's almost impossible to seed bigger files to 500% on most private trackers. Usually there are 200+ seeders and 10-20 leechers, "There simply aren't enough people who want what you've got."

Seeding to 500%? I find that hard to believe... :wacko:

By the time I've finished leeching there are very few people who want the files.

[gamer4eva]

I have a friend that downloads a 4.4gb (approx) and seeds till like 300gb well depending on the leechers. But yeah and minimum is like 60gb.

[deuce6000]

Isn't anyone that downloads a torrent a leacher :)

[warfab]

Isn't anyone that downloads a torrent a leacher :)

LOL :lol:

[Floydian]

I don't think I'm a leecher, I just try to maintain my ratio at 1

[FreeDoom]

I seed normally to 150-200% but sometimes till 300%
Depends how is my ratio on that site ;)

[nForc3r]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D


That depends on what connection you have, some people have 16kb/s upload, you cant expect them to seed 500% unless you got 100mbit

[hill60]

I just leave them there, some go up to over 1000% others less.

I don't pay for uploads why should it matter, the more people sharing, the faster the d/l's go.

When I want the bandwidth I shut down azureus.

[Guyver]

i always seed over 1:1

[dickwiewy]

I'm so n0ob to this D/L stuff that [a] I don't have a clue from leeching & [b] haven't even been able to get on BitTorrent
. This may be in part due to my negligable attempts at same in the last few weeks. Cheers!

[Osmium]

Typical I seed 100-150%, but sometimes upload increase to 200-300% (for example: i forget about seeding ang go to sleep :)

[Piyush Singh]

Sure whenever it is possible...I'm a leecher.
I may fool around with the new trackers,but always keep a ratio of 1+ on established trackers.

[odman13]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D
It's almost impossible to seed bigger files to 500% on most private trackers. Usually there are 200+ seeders and 10-20 leechers, "There simply aren't enough people who want what you've got."

Seeding to 500%? I find that hard to believe... :wacko:


Well I seed to 999999999999% I was trying for the 1% more but no one wanted anything. What do I win for seeding the most? Nothing:stars: ? You mean I matter just as much as a leecher with a .1% upload? Oh. WTF was this thread just trying to bait people to exaggerate and brag or what?

[fester32]

I only ever leech from private trackers so seeding to at least 1:1 is of course the very minimum I will aim for. Obviously with private sites it is not always possible to seed to 1:1 depending on leechers, how soon you jump on a torrent and how popular it is.
Seeding is the basic principle involved in p2p. if nobody seeded, nobody would get anything.
Why mess about with public sites like torrentspy and get 30kbs downloads when I can max out my connection at over 800kbs & get the latest releases hours/days before they hit the public trackers. I will still seed just the same wherever I get it from. :)

[vanhelsing33]

i usually seed between 110 - 150%.
if there are much more leechers (i.e. a new torrent), than i seed (much) more.
the average global ratio on my torrent sites (accounts) is 1.4

[Artakserksis]

Well, if I download from a private tracker I seed back about to 100% except if it's a huge file. If I download from a public tracker I seed back about 20%-30%. That's because I have a 384/128 connection and my biggest upload speed without making my connection lagging is about 8-9kb/s...

[gustafo]

I seed to at least 100%, usualy over 150%...

I hate those that :boxing: & :dog: !

[pandapop]

If you do seed to 500% on private trackers then you cause a problem because you take away 4 peoples ability to reach a 1:1 ratio. People with larger conx who share more than 1:1 reduce the likelyhood of people with smaller conx being able to reach a 1:1 ratio. Seed what you get but seeding more doesn't make you a better person! This is not a competition is it about keeping the files alive and sharing, over sharing ruins that for others!

totally agree.... overseeding to excess is equally as bad for bittorrent as leeching.

the post writer should be embarrassed :whistling

[pECi]

200-300% average depends how many peers are...if there are leechers i can seed up too 2000% but also 10% if there aren't...it depends...but i am seeding some torrents for weeks

[cansu]

I seed 100% or a little over. So I seed what I download. And I don't think this makes me a leecher and I'm not ashamed of myself.

[mirkocosta]

i try to seed as much as i can since the torrent life is very important.

there are some times that i seed more than five times the lenght of the torrent itself, some time less (150%), depends on many factors.

cheers ;)

[Jazmina]

When you say % do you mean like 1:1 would be 100 %? If so then I guess I seed between 200-600% That sems high. Right now my lowest is 1.568 and my highest is 6.725. I had two at 11.something that I just deleted. Is that what you mean, or am I just daft, lol?

I do not have very fast upload speeds, but because I leave torrents open for seeding for usually a few months, I guess I can get higher ratios. Like somebody mentioned earlier, if there's like 200+ seeders and 6 leechers it's impossible to seed. But if you leave it in a month or two nobody will be seeding.

[sear]

All right my turn to wiegh in...

I seed between 1% and 500% depending on the torrents seeder leecher ratio (I voted 80-150). for me it makes no difference I just leave the torrent in there for weeks. As I only use private sites I either seed my arse off or upload my own files so I can keep a ratio of about 1.5 that way I can just download whatever I want and don't have to stress about being banned :happy:

I just read this whole thread and it's a fucking good laugh :lol:

[icabetmez]

about 40%

[Icedevimon13]

I have a few questions regarding seeding.

Firstly, when I first started downloading torrents I used to keep the upload bar all the way to the right, an act which got me in trouble with the cable company because apparently I have an upload limit. Now I have to keep it at
10kbs/s at most. Also, I used to seed a finished torrent until it stops seeding itself. Sometimes that was at 10 percent, sometimes 200 percent. Now I don't, so I guess that I am a LEECHER.

My questions are..

1) When you seed something, must it stay at the top, or can it be removed after seeding is complete? If it must stay up, how long is usually acceptable to keep it?

2) Does a high seed ratio affect uploading in any way?

[sear]

My questions are..

1) When you seed something, must it stay at the top, or can it be removed after seeding is complete? If it must stay up, how long is usually acceptable to keep it?

2) Does a high seed ratio affect uploading in any way?

1) I'm assuming by on top you mean in the 1st position in your client? no as long as the torrent is loaded and it says seeding then there is no problem.

Just to be clear you can't remove it from your client if you want to seed it.

And you can leave it as long as you want dude...just depends on your ethics and which tracker your using. If you use Private trackers then until you have given back as much as you took (at least) if not then that's realy up to you.

2) yes it does. If you have lots of seed and very few leachers then there isn't much chance of giving back 100% of what you downloaded. But having a high number of seeders won't effect it in itself. For example at the moment I'm seeding a movie and it has about 600 seeders and 50 leachers and I'm uploading fine. when I started there was about 1200 seeders and 400 leachers and that wasn't a prob either. the only thing a high number of seeders will do is increase your download speed...

or your chances of getting busted :lol:

[the_pig]

I usually seed 150-200%

[fubusmaximus]

I seed to 105% usually so I can slightly increase my ratio while not hindering others ability to do so (mostly because that is what I have to do on closed trackers)

[PooBar]

i seed as much as i can ,the higher the better :-P.as long as its over 1.100, if for some reason i cant get it on a certian torrent i'll make up for it on others ,that is if the torrent is from the same site , i dont use public

[twiter]

500+ really

[ipage17]

300%-400%

I tend to forget the client on very often :lol:

[FreeDoom]

I saw something in the web saying that the ideal would be between 80% and 100%, so everybody can seed.

[ipage17]

The ideal would be 100% uploaded back, but yes, you are right. People with good connections should stop seeding after they get over 100% to let others build back their ratios.

[Rat Faced]

I leave 'em open after i download for a couple of weeks normally... sometimes they upload, sometimes they dont.

As they're available, I dont consider myself a leecher, even if a particular file uploads nothing.

I'm only a member of a very small tracker though, so there aren't really that many people that may want a particular file.


The other thing is, they all go into a common shared folder with my other p2p programs, so although the BT may not upload... they may get uploaded on k-lite etc.

The stats wouldnt show that.

[pepsi65]

I have been good seeder with very good ratio on a Tracker that suddently closed whitout notice.
Now I just keep my ration over 1.1.

[projectX]

The ideal would be 100% uploaded back, but yes, you are right. People with good connections should stop seeding after they get over 100% to let others build back their ratios.

that's right, but the others won't get such great download-speed if everybody stops seeding at 100%, and that's what many people like about anti-leech-trackers.

I usually also seed 500%+ if there's many people downloading:)

[pianistu]

I'm trying to push the 150% limit, but it's not so easy with an ADSL 512/128kb upload

[cantoron]

I am going out of a leecher.. try to increasing my ratio....:D

[SonicSam]

I seed way more than I leech!

[pezze]

If you seed that much, then you're not letting other users keep a good ratio

[cno81]

I've got to be honest, using torrents I find it hard to maintain a 1-1 ratio, because there's always another killer download the next day to knock your 0.99 ratio you've just spent 24 hrs improving back to 0.91 or something - I've been playing this game now for months, really annoying :/

Doesn't help when most residential broadband connections are asynchronous though, when I was on NTL 10mbit cable server my download was 20x faster than my upload. Least on my current connection its only 4x faster...

[TimeRavine]

I find most users with slower broadband connections usually get stuff from another site/place and seed it on their favourite tracker to build up a nice ratio. Case in point ScT, where majority of the time only people with 100mbit connections leech.

[Iuz]

always above 100%(if it is possible)

[capsyl]

always above 100%(if it is possible)

Same here. I think I average at 1.25.

[aka_void]

I seed what I download x2. Unless I've got nothing in my download window, then I just leave it seeding

[ian2006]

i always seed to a 1.2 ratio,i have 10meg down and 512 upload

[schlub]

when I had a seederbox I would always seed to obscene ratios... but now that I'm limited to my home line I can't do that, but I try to seed all I can and never under 1.0

[drxmsa]

i seed about 150 per torrent

[Fun2oosH]

hey as me from IndiA at least affordable and unlimited connection is 256kbps, ao i am on formula of 1:1 ratio , i do seed more also depending upon torrent and leechers, as i would have had no problem if i was on higher speed.

[Pr1nc3]

strict minimum is 1:1
Most will be 110 ~125% on private trackers
Up to 500% where possible on private trackers.

(40 KB/s up/down :cry: :angry: )

[kimii]

I seed until there are no more leechers, so it ranges mostly for me.



Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D
It's almost impossible to seed bigger files to 500% on most private trackers. Usually there are 200+ seeders and 10-20 leechers, "There simply aren't enough people who want what you've got."

Seeding to 500%? I find that hard to believe... :wacko:



BTW, always seeding at 500% shouldnt be hard to believe. If you do it on a big tracker (alot of peers) with a seedbox, it should be easily done.

[nedkat]

I voted what my average-ratio usually ends up being 200-300% ... I'll knock up the ratio on any particular download up to 500+ when I can... helps my ratio, helps everybody.

I seed on a separate comp... I don't have it on 100% of the time though... probably cause I'm not constantly getting new stuff either... depending on the tracker, however, I do dl/ul quite alot.

[Patriot foreve]

well usually 1.2:1

[sniper06]

I always seed to 2.0 or more and have seeded a torrent till 5.0 I will always seed.

[0ctane]

i seed usually till theres a good amount of seeds or if there loads of seeds on it usually to 200%

[Acidice]

my upload speed is atrocious. I get 6 megs down, 0.4 megs up. I still manage a ratio over 1.0 though. :D

[superazo]

I'm no leech. But the ratios differ. it depends of the site. In Oink it's really hard to get the ratio to 5.0 but it's easy to get it over 5.0 on Filelist or Filemp3.

[WHiKWiRE]

I hope Seedler isn't just trying to impress us saying his seeds 500%. I mean this is impossible if he is talking about a private tracker as Rip the Jacker stated. I personally seed 150% most of the time and even that's a struggle these days.

[AcesHigh]

For evry person that seeds over 100% there has to be someone that seeds less than 100%. So in a way for maniac seeders leechers are needed to keep these people and their egomaniacal obsession with ratio happy.

I seed everything to 50% and then I see what torrent is in the most need of help. Then I seed those for a while.

[limesqueezer]

I would like to see somebody sharing all his downloaded files, that would be something new on torrents. Torrents are made for leechers, some few people release stuff but all other people are only seeding last stuff they downloaded. But i don't understand what is the point in leeching on torrents since stuff on torrents you find anywhere else if you can't get it from torrents, its popular as shit since torrents are for randomly new stuff only.

[ym84]

frankly, its not as easy not to become a leecher.. seeding 150% is really tough most of the time.. not to say about public server,where most people just hit and run (that's why its easy to seed above 150%)..but for the case of private server, everyone just wants to have a share of the seed.. and it will take me like days to hit 150% especially for older torrents.. and frankly, i don't see the point of wasting my computer memory jus to seed a torrent where there is already 10 seeds and 1 leecher.. despite my upload capacity of at least 50 kb/s, no one seems to be downloading form me most of the time..

wad i would do is, i would not set ani restriction on my upload speed. thus, if i happen to be downloading a new torrent, my ratio would usually be 1:1.. and depending on the suitation, i would sometimes seed for another like 7 hours while i am in school.

i am not too sure if location/distance from the tracker do plays a part.. i am base in south east asia and no one really seems to be interested in my upload.. i find it hard to maintain my share ratio even thou i am seeding..

[nizrulesall]

frankly, its not as easy not to become a leecher.. seeding 150% is really tough most of the time.. not to say about public server,where most people just hit and run (that's why its easy to seed above 150%)..but for the case of private server, everyone just wants to have a share of the seed.. and it will take me like days to hit 150% especially for older torrents..
Yeah i totally agree with that.

[DSLFreak]

I try to seed 100 to 150% on all files but sometimes it's hard on some of the private trackers, plus my up speed is only 64 KB/s.

[PJWomble]

Have I missed a meeting here?

Surely there is only a finite number of people who use BitTorrent, and even within that finite number there must be a smaller number of people who want a particular torrent?

Every time one user completes a download and begins to seed it, that means there's one person less who wants to download the file, doesn't it? And the size of the group of seeds from whom this now smaller group of downloaders can get the file has grown by another one.

So each seeder gets to give a little bit less bandwidth (i.e. increase their ratio by a smaller amount) every tie a download completes. The law of diminishing returns, I think!

So if you're the last dude to download a file, how do you seed it to 500% if no other little blighter wants it? Do you have an extra special double-secret client which forces people to download the torrents you're seeding against their will? Or do you have some other means of persuading people to get data that they don't want from you?

[otaviorem]

my ratio is between 1.0 and 1.05

[Riddleclown]

My ratio's usually around 3.00, this is mainly because i only get popoular tv shows like prison break, lost and smallville, that way you know people want them to because their so popular so its kinda easy. Most time i just leave my computer on seeding till ratios around 3.00

[darknewday]

on public trackers at least 1:1
on private trackers i leave my torrents open all the time

[neuwelt]

I Stick To The Basics 1:1

[muellermilch]

I Stick To The Basics 1:1Most time I let them open until i have seeded it atleast 1:1 back. Sometimes when I need better ratio I upload longer, so no problem for me I think ;-)

[XceLi]

I usually seed until the torrent dies out, however long that might be. :)

[niftypat]

since i'm out of the house most of the day, i leave it running all the time, whether its public or private... usually average 250 kb/sec.... so my ratios are pretty good

[simitchi]

Fifty-fifty :/

[thesixthsensor]

Why isn't there a wtf option?

I need a wtf option.

WTF MAN

[Eazil]

My ratio is between 1.5 and 1.9.

[Shadowfire]

I usually seed 100-150%, but occasionally up to 200% or more.

[Mazak]

I want but I can't...my upload speed is capped.

[zultrix]

That depends on the S/L ratio of the torrent. If I see there are enough seeds to make the torrent go round I move on. I usually can't seed properly in a well-seeded swarm anyway. But I try to maintain a 0.8:1 if not a 1:1 ratio.

[sjg1983]

i been seeding prision break s1 for bout 3 months now upped over 100gig

[Artakserksis]

In the past I would be considered a leecher, because of my crappy connection, and that I couldn't leave my PC seeding 24h/day, but I just upgraded my connection and bringed my total ratio back to 1-1 :D
I like being a good seeder and helping the torrent scene, and I believe it's what everyone must do...

[wolfy1]

i seed what i take.if my up speed is going well then i'll leave it upping

[drewstuff8]

i can only upload 3gb per 72 hours bcuz of my isp.. so i try to stick to that limit. if it results in a 50% ratio, oh well -- nothing i can do

[Zezo]

100% fair enought

[Blackstreet]

Yeah , 100% is fair .
Someone have a fasct connect can contribute more

[shock~]

why the hell is this thread so old yet a new poll... makes no sense.

[lszb]

I used to seed until there are downloaders.
If my upload speed is 0 for a long time, I delete the torrent from the list.

[ahmedbakeer]

i seed it for 12%

[Tmaster]

i seed for 150%
so, i may be slightly a seeder not very leecher

[PsychoStar]

100-150%

I think it is fair

[Ido66]

I dont only leech , seed also but ffs i dont have a good upload :( otherwise i would seed for days/24 hours ;)

[Fireinthedawn]

I try to get at least 100 percent. Sometimes it's difficult to though.

[ck_psu08]

most the time i seed until there are no more leechers or i need to delete the file bc i am out of disk space!

[nodzv]

i seed till 200% or less then 72h

[maverick_andy]

mine is 200% seeding

[EmpozX]

I seed until my harddrive is full, then I must delete something :(

[i.dragonfly]

Being constrained by my upload bandwidth, I usually seed only 1-2 torrents at a time, including when I'm downloading. :( However, I still try to get to 150%-200%. Having recently moved to some private trackers, it's very difficult to seed for that long. On public trackers I tend to seed to only 100% since I don't want to get a C&D letter!

[spidercork1]

I seed to at least 150%. I've always felt this was a good ratio to aim for.

[porscha]

i also find it hard to believe that you seed 500%, in the private trackers there is always 200 plus seeders and not enough leechers so you never reach the 500% mark. Impossible.
i seed for months at times, still if you are considering that leaving it seed with no leechers thats not seeding and it doesn't give you 500%.
unless you have a way of seeding 500% that i am not aware of and many others are not aware of. i would be interested in hearing about it cause it would be nice to seed 500%.
also you must take into account that some of us have caps on our bandwidth.
and some of us don't.
so i hope that you can shed some light on this subject as some people will be reading that you seed 500% and scratch their heads saying what am i doing wrong, why can't i seed like that.
take into account people bandwidth, leechers play an important part in what you can do and what you can't do.

thank you

[Pac]

I usually seed about 300%/400%

[HOTP]

On Bitmetv I Have A Ratio Of 150+

[Coldo]

seeding 150 %

[lysine]

i also find it hard to believe that you seed 500%, in the private trackers there is always 200 plus seeders and not enough leechers so you never reach the 500% mark. Impossible.


not impossible. you've just got to be on the right files... I've got a 700MB file that I've seeded for 6.5 GB right now. it's not too difficult if you leave it uploading for more than a few days.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2352/ratiobx2.jpg

[Kadmium]

I just seed until the torrent is deleted from the tracker.

[jonppaa]

i try to seed at least 100%.

[Sneakydave]

i seed to around 100%, any more than that and your hurting the rest of the sites users who might have slower connections than you but still need to maintain the same ratio

[shalinor]

I'd seed above 80% if I could, but at least on my other sources I always seem to find all the torrents no one else cares about. 6 gigs of a last-season TV show that everyone else already downloaded? Yeah, sure, I'll stay on for 2 weeks, no sweat... and get maybe 500mb up :(

[tbl]

It depends on your upload speed. It is unrealistic to expect people with 128kbits/second (which only equals about 16kbytes/second) to seed over 100%.

Personally I try to keep an average ratio of 1:1. This is easy when I download something overnight.

[Daunting]

I try my best to keep up a good ratio. Haven't deleted a torrent in about 2 weeks, but a lot of the files I download are pretty obscure stuff, so to get a swarm with even 5 leechers is a difficulty a lot of times. For the sake of community though I like seeing a ratio of 40. on gig sized file. Makes me feel like I'm doin' my part.

[Reno365]

All torrents by default I'll leave to seed to 200-300%. Private sites I'll usually leave indefinitely...

[_RaGe_]

I can only upload at 25 kb's so I always try to go like 1.3% or more but sometimes it's really hard.

[Hanz™]

I plan to seed 500% on some stuff on OiNK. It's going to take months though!
Most of my seeds are at over ratio 1 right now.

[007™]

seed till my speed drops to near 20kb/s

[WhoopDeDoo]

I don't have a set amount, I just seed till I feel enough people have it to continue. I only have two private torrent accounts (TL and Demonoid), TL with a 4.873 ratio and Demonoid with a 2.52 ratio.:mellow: So I like to consider myself a pretty decent seeder.

[Fulanito]

i seed until the torrent is dead hehe

[Nemesis®]

well to say it truthfully YES I'm a leecher,, of FTP,News,IRC NOT torrent because I don't use torrent for my main downloads. I do on the other hand seed on many sites helping where I can plus building creds so when I do find something rare I can just grab it with no issues other than hard drive space :) . My seeds run until no one takes any more from me for 24 hours and lately it's been pissing me off because so many torrents die off so quick, even on FTN. I have to keep cycling new torrents to get KBs taken from me UNLIKE FTP that takes until you stop it. TL and TB are pretty steady though. Most of them hit anywhere from 5 - 50 to 1 before they're really dead. TL and TB stay up and running for quite a while, wish all of them did. As far as I'm concerned if it's taking 10 or more KBs I'd leave it running for ever beings my p2p box stays up 24-7 heh all of them do.

If I were able to leave a 25 or so torrents running at a time then there'd be no problem, one would die while the others pick up and so on but either my ISP or modem won't stand for it, if I run more than 10 the dam modem will constantly disconnect till I shut them down under 10.


I noticed on a few of the trackers that had freeleech had a lot of problems with people doing that lame ass hit n run crap NOW That's uncalled for, that's almost as bad as lame ass cheaters :angry:
I can understand it when the site doesn't have enough leechers to make the 1 to 1 quota but so what just leave the dam thing running for 72 hours and your done. To many locations on the net to get shit full leech and much faster than torrent so there's no reason you have to rely on them for ALL your releases. Tracking can be just as much fun as using the stuff you get just takes patience!!

[sfx]

I think, like most folk i'm more committed to seeding on private trackers... Although i'm thoughful when there's only a couple of peers/seeds left...

[WhoopDeDoo]

I think, like most folk i'm more committed to seeding on private trackers... Although i'm thoughful when there's only a couple of peers/seeds left...

Yeah, because you actually benefit from seeding on private trackers.

[ibnahmed]

Are you a leecher?

If your seed less than 150% of what you download, you should be ashamed!

I always seed to 500% if not more. :D
It's almost impossible to seed bigger files to 500% on most private trackers. Usually there are 200+ seeders and 10-20 leechers, "There simply aren't enough people who want what you've got."

Seeding to 500%? I find that hard to believe... :wacko:

i have got the same problem
also, my low disk space is always a problem and sometimes i have to cap the downloads to get the free space.

[bankus123]

i seed to 150% always

[EFS]

i seed 50 g in the month

[JGG]

Just keep your torrents running long enough... on even the smallest and largest private trackers, you'll reach Ratio 4-5

[astarow]

1st of all it's hard to say how much you seed cause it depends on the time when you get the torrent. if you get an old torrent with 4 seeds that was completed 214 times i am sure you will not seed it until 1:1 cause this might take ages ...
i had 16.0 seed ratio at some torrents cause i was the 1st or 2nd downloader...
regarding oufy's "i seed 50 g in the month" ... what's your point. if you seed 50G and download 100G then you have an average 0.5 ratio. i seeded 50G in some days but sometimes it was a 1:1 ratio/day... sometimes even lower.

[magimcc]

It all depends on what you download. I don't download major releases, I like the straight to video garbage, so while everyone else is getting 500% on the hottest ticket at the box office, I download a crappy action movie at 700mb and upload 49.6mb and the upload usually stops within a few hours of finishing the download. When I download an episode of my favourite tv show at 350mb, no matter what the season, I can upload 5gb if I leave the client running, and usually do until I want the bandwidth for something else.

For me ratio doesn't matter, my client statistics say I have only upped 50% of my downloads, but for me its all a matter of what people want, not because I don't seed what I leech. I can't help the fact that apparently only me and the original uploader are the only people who like godawful straight to dvd dreck!

[decay]

Are you a leecher?

yes

[NA_Magus]

Current uTorrent stats: 50.1/31.1gb UL/DL. So I keep an ok ratio public or not. A bit over 150%.

[General2k]

Current stats are
71.73GB down
99.34GB up
1.384 ratio
I also got a new Sata HD a little while ago or else it would be higher if I had original stats i would provide them
Up/Down would probably be in the TBs.

[vipaar]

I always try to seed to 1.1-1.2 at least, if the number of seeders is low I stay on to help make sure that others who are leeching get the file/s, sometimes I can seed back to 2.0 or more but that doesn`t happen very often, my average on whats in my client at the mo is 1.1065
so I`m pretty cool with that:yup: :cool:

[bombi]

try to seed 1.1 or higher

[Rayn0r]

I try seed as much as i can, Unfortunetly my max upload is 20kb/s =.='' so a ratio of 500+... yeha..... plz....die? funny tho i dont see seedler posting on this thread anymore after Peerzy burnt him with that long ass post with forumlars XD

(Well least i dont think seedler has posted since then... ive reead about 10 pages of this post and havent seen him post once XD)

So all in all, to seedler "I always seed upto 500% or more.... eat shat and die...."

and to Peerzy plz have my babbies! O_O

[LoOpiNg]

The thing is, if the tracker is public, there are much less seeds. Most people are just selfish and hardly seed at all which will be the downfall of bt.

[nhahtdh]

I keep the ratio as low as possible. But if I saw anybody up for me a lot, I remove the upload limit. I always download files over 150MB so I always upload only 10% each file

[YoMaN]

i usally 300++

[orygun]

110 or higher. Some sites don't like leechers and I am not getting kicked.

[jrzy]

My seed average is about 274% , I keep it a bit higher b/c I sometimes like to go on hit n' run sprees ... lol ... otherwise, I would keep it at 1:1 /// my upload average is 130k

[OmaRin0]

200-300%

[alaz1903]

i seed it to 150%- 200

[phoen|x]

Usually i seed to 120-130% since i use a seedbox with capped monthly bandwith. However, if its a torrent with few seeds or crappy speed i seed 3-400%.

[PsychoDude]

I have my torrent client set to a seeding to like 10000000000000000%, anyways, so high it turns to negative -16k :P. Do I ever reach that? Nope :P.

I continue seeding just about everything I download unless I lose it due to hd crashes (not in the lame excuse form of just signing up and having downloaded too much, but actually hd's crashing after heavy usage :P). Luckily hd crashes don't occur too often, just once every couple of years :).

So as long as there are leechers on things, I'll seed. Some torrents I have a ratio of 2500% on due to that, DVD sized things like go up to 1000% and massive packages of 30GB+ are like around 200% tops.

But as there is a tops, there's also the torrents with just 0.000 ratio, simply because there are no leechers on them. Can keep on running them for months without anyone else deciding to download it.

Overall my ratio of the past 6 months is on like 1.4 or something, so not bad. Looking at it theoretically, too high even. But we live in a world of leechers, so it's no prob :).

[smirnoff]

i seed about 150 - 200
thats seems to be good i think

[badenglish]

I seed until at least 150% on private trackers but usually keep going to 200% (sometimes 400% or 600%) if there is enough demand. I'm at school and I have a nice 1.5Mbps u/l capacity (but unfortunately behind a proxy :( ) so it's not too tough with my maximum download size usually being no more than 8GB.

[Phosfor]

It totally depends on what torrent, what tracker and the size of the torrent I'm downloading. On the trackers that are hard to maintain ratio (ScT, OiNK etc.) I seed as much as I can, but it's really hard to upload 5gb if you download somthing with 1gb in size (ie. 500%). On other trackers which are easy to maintain ratio I sometimes just seed until my download is done, but since I got 100mbit I usually upload pretty much during that time.

[lisa82]

I try to seed for a least three days after I download.

[Hitman86]

i seed about 200-300%

[artifact]

i dont seed im uber leecher... HnR FTW beeeootches
:p

[vernier]

i seed for 3 days also shame about upload speeds what is the longest anyone has left there computer on whilst seeding?

[artifact]

longest i have ever let a torrent run was several weeks... was the james bond dvdr pack

[hotwebdownload]

I leech only when needed

[organizm]

I seed most of the stuff i download for like a week or two and then transfer it to a bigger HD. Do not really care about the actual ratio though.

[StriderZ]

I seed until the up speeds are too low due to lack of leechers, which is anywhere from 2.0-20.0 depending on the torrent :-P

[jackwho]

It would be good to see the actual usernames of the people that voted 80% or less that they seed...shame shame shame :noes:

[Liked]

I seed 600-1000%

[Liked]

i seed to 600-1000&

[PooBar]

we are all leechers ,question should be are you a leech? ;-)

[Ellirion]

i normally seed till the ratio drops and its not worth having the file open to lag my computer down more but yea 150% - 200% is what it normally gets too

[mestari]

No way ;)

[farmir]

It's almost impossible to seed bigger files to 500% on most private trackers. Usually there are 200+ seeders

[GigaGiga]

200-300%

[xr4ti]

1000% on private trackers that i am active on
300% on other private trackers
100% on public trackers

[quadomatic]

This is a tough question to answer. I have over a one to one ratio on torrentleech. I would like to seed one to one on everything, but I can't jump on new torrents, but I can't keep my PC running overnight, so I'd get a hit n run if I tried a new torrent. Usually I'll just download something that people download on TL but there are fewer seeds for from a public tracker and then seed it on the private tracker for a while.

[mags23]

How fucking old is this thread???

[Dreamz]

I Seed To ""At Least"" 1:1 But Allways Go Over 1:1

[JWP]

I seed 200-300%

[illusion73]

I seed at least 100-200%

[spidershrief]

i seed about 150 - 200

[nursepissangel]

usually do about 150%; people who claim to seed 500% for every torrent, stop kidding yourselves.

[Bor74]

what's a seed?

[corey-]

Are you a leecher?

yes

[janine]

I just leave shit on forever and forget it. It's really cool to come back to a site after a week or a month and discover that your ratio has gone through the roof ;)

[bloodmoney]

I am not so bad after all somewhere around 140 %

[RaPPeR]

i always try to seed as much as i can. but its hard with my 32K UP.

[sych0]

usually close to 100

[Fortech]

usually around 80%

[UVRay]

I'm a lecher, does that count? I'll give my seed to any girls that want it, as much as they like.

[LaPadula]

i seed to keep a 2.5 ratio on the communities i care about... for public trackers, i upload at max capacity until i get the files and then just leave... but those public things siphon the crap out of me so i usually seed 500% anyway...

[Arff]

My ratio is usually about 2 but you have to factor in the fact that bittorrent is a zero sum system. For everyone with a ratio above 1 someone has to have a ratio less than 1. For this reason I don't don't think having a massive ratio makes you super l33t. There are however reasons to keep seeding things, such as increasing speeds for people or keeping a poorly seeded torrent going. For that reason it's a bit of a catch 22 situation. On private trackers it's a good idea to jump off the really well seeded torrents if you have a really good ratio though cos it lets other people build

[monodinamo]

on public trackers I usually go until about 50%, private trackers I usually go until about 120%.