Best final fantasy?

[abu_has_the_power]

what is the best ff? i don't want to play the early ones for snes. just the ps and ps2 games.

i can get ff 7,8 x and x-2. i have 8 on pc right now.

what is ff IX? how come it's not as popular as the others?

so many to play, so little time :wacko: :wacko:

[Guyver]

Ff7 is argued to be the best ff ever, and id have to agree:)

[Busyman]

Probably the new Dirge Of Cerberus since you don't have to do that turn based geek fighting.

"I hit the monster and sapped 500 hit points!!"

His turn.:dry:

[abu_has_the_power]

i'm playing a bit of ff8 on pc. it looks really really shitty. all the backgrounds are like crappy static backgrounds. i guess it's pretty good for the ps, but it looks so bad


i played a little ffx @ my friends place. it's so weird. i'm more used to kotor and guild wars. real time rpg.

[Delorean]

FF 7 and 8 as far as i know are the best..

I preffer 8.

Also in 9 you can disable the waitng thing so that the monster will attack you as soon as its ready no matter if you are trying to find an item in the middle of the fight or even if you hesitaded to attack..
The same think with you.. your characters will strike as soon as they are ready. if they are faster than the monster they might manage to strike twice!
I have enjoyed paying them all up to 9.
I want to borrow a ps2 just to play FFX and FFX-2 rom a friend of mine!:)

[abu_has_the_power]

just played a bit of ff8. my god the game looks so bad. everything just looks so ugly. the game is almost 7 years old yes, but still. it looks just so ugly. ahhh

[Guyver]

just played a bit of ff8. my god the game looks so bad. everything just looks so ugly. the game is almost 7 years old yes, but still. it looks just so ugly. ahhh

Its not all about looks ya know, ff8 has a gr8 story and gameplay.

[abu_has_the_power]

guess i'm just not used to games that look like this

[mr. nails]

ffi = started genre, but great classic
ffii = same as i, but u can cheat with the gameplay (repetitive)
ffiii = still, early ff. same as first ii. (only japanese)(rom)
ffiv = great new ff style. good story, great gameplay. NEW us ver is set to hard mode.
ffv = ff tactics gameplay. FUN!
ffvi = BEST FF to date!!!
ffvii = great new cg grafx to turn on no0bs. great game none-the-less. excellent story!
ffviii = ok story, gay gameplay. get ready to steal a lot :(
ffix = old school approach. knights, dragons, wizards. ahhh... worked 4 me.
ffx = fun game! great grafx, fast gameplay. interesting story!
ffx-2 = FASTER gameplay! = AWESOME gameplay! story is meh...
ffonline = slow, boring, time consuming
ffxii = to be continued...

[Busyman]

i'm playing a bit of ff8 on pc. it looks really really shitty. all the backgrounds are like crappy static backgrounds. i guess it's pretty good for the ps, but it looks so bad


i played a little ffx @ my friends place. it's so weird. i'm more used to kotor and guild wars. real time rpg.
I still haven't checked out Guild Wars yet.

Sounds good.

I could even deal with KOTOR.

FF just sucks ass too me. I bought the FF for PS1 awhile back and I was hyped (like everyone else) but ended up bored to tears.

The FF games have great cinemas but I want to play a game for the gameplay, not watch a movie.

[mr. nails]

I still haven't checked out Guild Wars yet. Sounds good.
i'm currently playing guild wars. i'm still at the beginning at pre-searing doing all the quests be4 i move on to post-searing. not sure if i like it or not. i'm a lvl7 warrior/monk. me, i'm a traditionalist rpg player unlike urself. i enjoy the ff's. real-time rpg's are fun, but get boring kinda fast. there's no objective really. for me, ff is fun. i enjoy the countless leveling up then sit back and watch a 10 min cg movie after i beat a boss that took 30 mins.

[Adster]

7 was the best ruined my life for good used to skip school and shit to play it

im a bti opposite to you bussyman I like storyline and about 60 hrs of gameplay not a halo 2 FPS shoot everybody game over in 6 hrs

ff8 was ok but shitted me it had so many plotholes with the story line and having to stand in battle for 3 hrs to draw fucking 100 fire 3s pissed me off

GTA series for example were good for me but I end up goign through 10 controllers of anger

[Busyman]

7 was the best ruined my life for good used to skip school and shit to play it

im a bti opposite to you bussyman I like storyline and about 60 hrs of gameplay not a halo 2 FPS shoot everybody game over in 6 hrs

ff8 was ok but shitted me it had so many plotholes with the story line and having to stand in battle for 3 hrs to draw fucking 100 fire 3s pissed me off

GTA series for example were good for me but I end up goign through 10 controllers of anger
60 hrs. would be fine the gameplay itself sucks.

60 hrs. with taking turns combat reminds me of rollthedice D&D.

I want adrenaline not a board game. When I play FF on PS1 it was board game. I move my character around the "board". Encounter an enemy? Roll the dice.

I like leveling up but give me a Diablo clone instead.

I guess the perfect game would be a 40 hour, hack n slash rpg, with in game cinemas.

I think games like FF entice players with the cinemas but fall flat on adrenaline and fun.

[Adster]

your not rolling a dice really rolling a dice is a 1 in 6 chance of a 6

if you use your brains and know a boss that breaths fire is resisted to Ice then you throw ice.. it can be strategic too

it was FF game that really got me into gaming before that I was on sports games only

[Cheese]

Chrono Trigger is the best Final Fantasy type game, great combat system and decent story. Final Fantasy 7. 8 and 9 were all pretty good but I've been spoilt by the likes of Morrowind now.

[abu_has_the_power]

busyman, wait for ff xII. it uses a pseudo real time combat system kinda like kotor. u can move around when u battle. also in x-2 the combat system is changed so that u don't really have to "take turns".

i'm playing ffx and ffx-2 for sure.

[Busyman]

busyman, wait for ff xII. it uses a pseudo real time combat system kinda like kotor. u can move around when u battle. also in x-2 the combat system is changed so that u don't really have to "take turns".

i'm playing ffx and ffx-2 for sure.
I might check that out. I could play KOTOR so those FF games shouldn't be a stretch.

[Guyver]

busyman, wait for ff xII. it uses a pseudo real time combat system kinda like kotor. u can move around when u battle. also in x-2 the combat system is changed so that u don't really have to "take turns".

i'm playing ffx and ffx-2 for sure.
I might check that out. I could play KOTOR so those FF games shouldn't be a stretch.

i cant wait for ff12 ps3 :D

[abu_has_the_power]

it's on ps2

[Guyver]

it's on ps2


yeh but id rather play it on ps3 lol

[suprafreak6]

ive been playing fft on pc with an emulator alot lately, its been fun

[Guyver]

i did not like fft, i hate that space moving shit

[mr. nails]

i did not like fft, i hate that space moving shit
something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...

[Formula1]

Final Fantasy 10 is my favorite...

[Adster]

thing about final fantasy is all of them I at least play and go through once a year and I cant say that about many games

[Busyman]

i did not like fft, i hate that space moving shit
something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...
The reason people clock so many hours in the game is that battles are turn based and talking to other characters is a slow process.

That and going around boosting your HP...but that's in hack n' slash PRGs too.

[Cheese]

i did not like fft, i hate that space moving shit something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...
Did you ever try the Shining Force games on the Megadrive? Those were great games, tactical turn-based combat at its best with an engaging storyline. Worth playing on an emulator if you get the chance, they are defiently a part of RPG history. I think some sequels came out for the later Sega consoles but I had grown out of consoles by then :(





The reason people clock so many hours in the game is that battles are turn based and talking to other characters is a slow process.
Blimey, there's nothing too obvious that you won't state.

[Busyman]

something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...
Did you ever try the Shining Force games on the Megadrive? Those were great games, tactical turn-based combat at its best with an engaging storyline. Worth playing on an emulator if you get the chance, they are defiently a part of RPG history. I think some sequels came out for the later Sega consoles but I had grown out of consoles by then :(





The reason people clock so many hours in the game is that battles are turn based and talking to other characters is a slow process.
Blimey, there's nothing too obvious that you won't state.
Hah! Obvious to you.:happy:

Is it a plus that I can take my time choosing a spell or sword slash then wait for the rest of party and the enemy's party to do so....or......

Move around, jump around, find where the enemy is hiding and pull that trigger to eventually dispatch him.

"I got a head shot and the enemy is dead. This game sucks. He didn't get his turn."

Damn now that I think about it, I think I'll play The Bard's Tale somore today. I started playing it and only went into the first level with the rat and haven't played since.

[Filliz]

just played a bit of ff8. my god the game looks so bad. everything just looks so ugly. the game is almost 7 years old yes, but still. it looks just so ugly. ahhh
cutscenes are uber tight though :01:

FFVIII is my favorite,then FFIX.
FFVIII has the best card game imo.
Would be cool if they had an online version of the card game.

[Guyver]

i did not like fft, i hate that space moving shit
something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...


meh i just didnt like it...

move to this square, attack...move...attack = ghey

[Busyman]

something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...


meh i just didnt like it...

move to this square, attack...move...attack = ghey
Board game? :dabs:

[Cheese]

[quote=mr. nails] something is wrong with u. fft is BEST!!! i've clocked 140+ hours so far. hrmm, feel like playing again...
Did you ever try the Shining Force games on the Megadrive? Those were great games, tactical turn-based combat at its best with an engaging storyline. Worth playing on an emulator if you get the chance, they are defiently a part of RPG history. I think some sequels came out for the later Sega consoles but I had grown out of consoles by then :(
/quote]

On the subject of turn-based games Advance Wars also ranks right up there. Like the old war boardgames they used to have (think Games Workshop nowadays) only with the computer to keep track of all the rules. Good stuff, I think I played Advance Wars until the cartridge burned out...

Back to the turn-based combat RPG's other classics have to be Bard's Tale, Phantasy Star, Breath of Fire, and Wasteland (forerunner to the equally great Fallout).

[Adster]

bysman has a point about ff8 though 20 hrs of the 100 hrs gameplay is spent watching a guardian force Infrit throw a fucking fireball

[Busyman]

bysman has a point about ff8 though 20 hrs of the 100 hrs gameplay is spent watching a guardian force Infrit throw a fucking fireball
:lol: :lol: :lol: irl.

[abu_has_the_power]

lol

what's the difference between 7 and 8? 8 uses a more complicated battle system right?

i'm probably going to play 7 since so many additional things have been made for it (dirge, advent children, etc)

[Guyver]

lol

what's the difference between 7 and 8? 8 uses a more complicated battle system right?

i'm probably going to play 7 since so many additional things have been made for it (dirge, advent children, etc)


yup 7 is the BEST.

[Adster]

lol

what's the difference between 7 and 8? 8 uses a more complicated battle system right?

i'm probably going to play 7 since so many additional things have been made for it (dirge, advent children, etc)


not really ciomplicated just a pain in the ass having to stand there and draw 100 fires for 2 hrs

and the weapons also pissed me off you spend 20 hrs on the map trying to find the stuff you need to upgrade your weapons you can make disk 4 easy with the weapon you started with!!

leveling up is usess because the eniemes level weill also be the same as yours so you waste hrs leveling up with no reward


7 is the best

[abu_has_the_power]

good
i'll try to get 7 for pc

[Busyman]

What FF was that for the PS1 with Cloud, Sephiroth, the big black guy with big gun in your camp.

[Adster]

What FF was that for the PS1 with Cloud, Sephiroth, the big black guy with big gun in your camp.


that was 7 the classic and best one but shitest graphics

[abu_has_the_power]

how does the graphx of 7 compare to 8?

[Cheese]

how does the graphx of 7 compare to 8?

If you couldn't deal with the graphics of FF8 then you're going to struggle with FF7's style as well.

http://www.juegomania.org/Final+Fantasy+VII/fotos/psone/0/576_t/Foto+Final+Fantasy+VII.jpg

[Busyman]

What FF was that for the PS1 with Cloud, Sephiroth, the big black guy with big gun in your camp.


that was 7 the classic and best one but shitest graphics
Yeah I liked it for a moment then got tired of "run then encounter enemy somewhere on the board that you can't see then take turns fighting."

I admittedly bought it 'cause of the hype but was later stunned that people finished it. I remember you put gems in your weapons or something.

Now I'm playing The Bard's Tale on Xbox and it's production is noice.

[abu_has_the_power]

how does the graphx of 7 compare to 8?

If you couldn't deal with the graphics of FF8 then you're going to struggle with FF7's style as well.

http://www.juegomania.org/Final+Fantasy+VII/fotos/psone/0/576_t/Foto+Final+Fantasy+VII.jpg
:cry: :cry:

[Adster]

LOL goofy looking characters but I still go through ff7 once a year

the game ruined my school life used to wag school to play it

[Cheese]

LOL goofy looking characters but I still go through ff7 once a year

the game ruined my school life used to wag school to play it
The graphics weren't that bad for the time it came out, but it is the gameplay that matters anyhow (assuming you like that style of RPG). I remember playing Wasteland for days on end as a bairn and the graphics for that would probably melt the eyes of some of the kiddies nowadays (though it shares many elements with games like Final Fantasy):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Wastelandgame1.png

[Busyman]

When I was younger...I played Zork.

:ph34r:

[Cheese]

When was younger...I played Zork.

:ph34r:

Ah, text adventures. You had to imagine your own graphics back then. None of this millions of polygons per second, FPS, anti-aliasing, pixel shading, HDR lighting, Havoc physics nonsense.

[Adster]

amazing isnt if in teh C64 and atari days we were happy with stick figures now kids wont play a games if the graphics "suck" even if the gameplay is mad

my fav atari game was crossbow

[Busyman]

When was younger...I played Zork.

:ph34r:

Ah, text adventures. You had to imagine your own graphics back then. None of this millions of polygons per second, FPS, anti-aliasing, pixel shading, HDR lighting, Havoc physics nonsense.
"A giant rat has entered the room."
"A giant snake has entered the room."

Aww FUCK!!!

sometimes thankfully they don't work in tandem

"The giant snake attacks the giant rat."

Yess!!:01:

[Adster]

to think kids thease days missing out on stuff like this

http://www.flipsiderunner.com/7800/cbss1.gif
http://www.flipsiderunner.com/7800/cbss2.gif


instead they get there halos and doom 3 and can complain that someones left soc has more red in it then the right sock

kids have got it easy thease days can get porn off the net for free

cheats off the net without having to ring up a 1800 number for $5 a minute or buy a magizine

[abu_has_the_power]

lol

just lol

[mr. nails]

Did you ever try the Shining Force games on the Megadrive? Those were great games, tactical turn-based combat at its best with an engaging storyline. Worth playing on an emulator if you get the chance, they are defiently a part of RPG history. I think some sequels came out for the later Sega consoles but I had grown out of consoles by then.
yes, and i still own all 3 in mint condition. missing scenario II & III of III though. stupid regions. GREAT games though none-the-less!!! also, the ps2 recently released another shining force. i WILL get it will it cums down in price.

someone also mentioned phantasy star. those were the sega dragon warrriors. notice, i didn't say final fantasy... i still own all 4 phantasy star games also. mint condition. i have phantasy star online I, II & III too. phantasy star is GREAT. phantasy star II was BEST! III was dogshit. remake of I should be cummin' out sometime.. sega? be nice for a V though...

[Busyman]

Tell me do you turn-based RPG players go through the entire game before realizing it's dogshit or stop at least a quarter of the way through?

Just wondering since these game are quite lengthy.

[3RA1N1AC]

i haven't really loved a turn-based RPG since Phantasy Star II, which WAS brilliant for its time. that game made every single turn-based NES RPG look like a pile of dogshit, not only because of the graphics but everything from the music to the story etc etc etc. Nei's death and the ending where the hundred dudes rush out, the screen fades to black, and the dudes rip your characters' arms off and beat them over the head with their own arms until they die and you're like "WTF WHY ARE YOU KILLING MY GUYS, WE JUST FUCKING SAVED THE GALAXY FROM MOTHER BRAIN"... that freaked me out to no end. i was 12 years old, it was very dramatic.

i only completed one more turn-based RPG after that: the first Final Fantasy Game Boy game which was really a SaGa game. i climbed the tower and killed God. it was okay (for a Game Boy cartridge), but it was no PHANTASY STAR II.

i tried Final Fantasy 8, but after only 1 or 2 dream sequences i figured out that it was a pile of highly polished, extremely old-fashioned dogshit.

i bought Shining Force II for 5 dollars at a game shop recently, then sold it on eBay for $30+. the label on the cartridge was in terrible condition too, but apparently those games are in high demand. i've heard that the Shining games are supposed to be good, but yeah. i don't have the patience anymore. they did make sequels for GameGear, Saturn, and i believe GBA. but maybe not all of them were released in english.

[Cheese]

Tell me do you turn-based RPG players go through the entire game before realizing it's dogshit or stop at least a quarter of the way through?

Just wondering since these game are quite lengthy.
Erm, you you do realise that people enjoy different types of games from other people? I mean, these types of games are huge in Japan for instance but less successful (but still played by a hardcore minority) in places like USA (sidenote:maybe it's your unconcious hatred of anything un-Amercian that leads you to repeatedly and predictably state your dislike of these type of games...?). Different people want different things from their games. Some would complain that the combat in games like Bard's Tale or Morrowind soon becomes highly repetive.

I really shouldn't have to be explaining this concept to an adult.

[Busyman]

Tell me do you turn-based RPG players go through the entire game before realizing it's dogshit or stop at least a quarter of the way through?

Just wondering since these game are quite lengthy.
Erm, you you do realise that people enjoy different types of games from other people? I mean, these types of games are huge in Japan for instance but less successful (but still played by a hardcore minority) in places like USA (sidenote:maybe it's your unconcious hatred of anything un-Amercian that leads you to repeatedly state your dislike of these games...?). Different people want different things from their games. Some would complain that the combat in games like Bard's Tale or Morrowind soon becomes highly repetive.

I really shouldn't have to be explaining this concept to an adult.
..and no one asked you to. :dabs: ...especially since it had nothing to do with my question. Here we also go again with the American shit. Do you have an inferiority complex or something?

But I'm serious, do you go all the way through an 80-hour epic then go, "This was shit."

I, no doubt, know that RPGs have their place. Not everyone has the skill for an FPS, fighting game, etc. The slower pace and cinematics are an allure for some.

Someone asks about a lengthy game and you go on a dumbass diatribe about whateverthefuck.:lol: :lol:

What's funny is I was going to get that FF game that someone said plays like KOTOR.:happy:

[Cheese]

But I'm serious, do you go all the way through an 80-hour epic then go, "This was shit."



Post 56. RIF.

[Cheese]

I, no doubt, know that RPGs have their place. Not everyone has the skill for an FPS, fighting game, etc. The slower pace and cinematics are an allure for some.


It's not a lack of skill that makes someone not want to play a game. I can complete any FPS I choose to pick up but I can only play the really good ones like Half Life 2 or FEAR without getting bored. Personal taste. You do understand what that means right? People aren't playing RPG's because they are not good enough to play "proper" games.

[Cheese]

Someone asks about a lengthy game and you go on a dumbass diatribe about whateverthefuck.:lol: :lol:



You should word your questions better then. As it stands it is just an attack, it doesn't leave any room for the fact that people enjoy these games it just condemns them. If you get to ask dumbass questions then I certainly get to reply to them with dumbass diatribes.

[Busyman]

But I'm serious, do you go all the way through an 80-hour epic then go, "This was shit."



Post 56. RIF.
RIF yourself. You didn't answer the question.:ermm:

I know in an FPS, fighting game, or whateverthefuck one tends not to finish the game if it is disliked. I have heard remarks regarding a game dogshit or wasting lots of time doing crap tasks. That's what the question was addressing that you didn't answer (I really don't care if you do at this point).

I really shouldn't have to explain this to an adult so I explained it to you.

[Cheese]

Yeah, I'm making my replies turn-based. So what?

[Cheese]

Post 56. RIF. RIF yourself. You didn't answer the question.:ermm:

I know in an FPS, fighting game, or whateverthefuck one tends not to finish the game if it is disliked. I have heard remarks regarding a game dogshit or wasting lots of time doing crap tasks. That's what the question was addressing that you didn't answer (I really don't care if you do at this point).

I really shouldn't have to explain this to an adult so I explained it to you.

Post 60. RIF.

[Busyman]

I, no doubt, know that RPGs have their place. Not everyone has the skill for an FPS, fighting game, etc. The slower pace and cinematics are an allure for some.


It's not a lack of skill that makes someone not want to play a game. I can complete any FPS I choose to pick up but I can only play the really good ones like Half Life 2 or FEAR without getting bored. Personal taste. You do understand what that means right? People aren't playing RPG's because they are not good enough to play "proper" games.
Good gracious, you take offense to everything.:lol:

For many it is a lack of skill. It does not really require timing nor finger dexterity.

The "no shit" comes in when you try and defend it doesn't apply to everyone.

[Busyman]

Someone asks about a lengthy game and you go on a dumbass diatribe about whateverthefuck.:lol: :lol:



You should word your questions better then. As it stands it is just an attack, it doesn't leave any room for the fact that people enjoy these games it just condemns them. If you get to ask dumbass questions then I certainly get to reply to them with dumbass diatribes.
The question still stands on it's own and remains valid.:huh:

Show me the condemnation in my question. Some have said certain RPGs were dogshit. When was that realized?

I EVEN said, "Just wondering since these games are quite lengthy."

[Cheese]

Some have said certain RPGs were dogshit. When was that realized?

Congratulations, you asked the question properly this time.

So to answer. I don't think I've ever completed a game I didn't like from any genre. But with respect to RPG games I've completed some of them and thought, "Gee, the end to this story sucks balls". That's mostly the Japanese ones to be honest, you expect all the loose ends of the confusing plot and storyline to be tied up but it never is. I'm guessing the story doesn't translate. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the game itself just that the story ending was anti-climatic.

Though to be fair the endings for a lot of computer games suck, Half Life 2 springs to mind.

[GepperRankins]

Erm, you you do realise that people enjoy different types of games from other people? I mean, these types of games are huge in Japan for instance but less successful (but still played by a hardcore minority) in places like USA (sidenote:maybe it's your unconcious hatred of anything un-Amercian that leads you to repeatedly state your dislike of these games...?). Different people want different things from their games. Some would complain that the combat in games like Bard's Tale or Morrowind soon becomes highly repetive.

I really shouldn't have to be explaining this concept to an adult.
..and no one asked you to. :dabs: ...especially since it had nothing to do with my question. Here we also go again with the American shit. Do you have an inferiority complex or something?

But I'm serious, do you go all the way through an 80-hour epic then go, "This was shit."

I, no doubt, know that RPGs have their place. Not everyone has the skill for an FPS, fighting game, etc. The slower pace and cinematics are an allure for some.

Someone asks about a lengthy game and you go on a dumbass diatribe about whateverthefuck.:lol: :lol:

What's funny is I was going to get that FF game that someone said plays like KOTOR.:happy:
a lot of people don't go "this was shit" :blink:

[3RA1N1AC]

Though to be fair the endings for a lot of computer games suck, Half Life 2 springs to mind.
i find the narrative endings to most videogames, regardless of genre or platform, quite unsatisfying. i love playing games, i really do. dislike playing shoddy ones, take delight in the few that strike the right chord for me... just like anyone else. but i feel videogames are (in nearly every instance) narratively very immature. sometimes makes me think i'd rather just have games with no semblance of a plot whatsoever (Tetris, Pac-Man, Pole Position) rather than all this stuff that's got the pretense of dramatic maturity ("it's the Gone With The Wind... of videogames! it's the War & Peace... of videogames!") but in reality has no greater dramatic aspirations than a typical episode of Miami Vice (see: GTA Vice City) or an above-average Steven Seagal movie (see: Metal Gear Solid 2). that's relatively good, for a videogame, but a bit pathetic when considered as part of all narrative media.

i mean, the fact that the videogame industry consistently adapts characters & stories from other media's most disposable garbage (Van Helsing: The Movie: The Game, Dukes Of Hazzard: The TV Show: The Movie: The Game, Starsky & Hutch: The TV Show: The Movie: The Game, Gundam-followed-by-whatever-numbers-and-acronyms) says a lot to me about the end to which videogame developers are pursuing the whole narrative/storytelling element. may as well not pursue it at all, if that's where they intend to take it. the medium itself has potential, but the game developers seem more interested in falsely claiming that games have already reached the same maturity as much older media (drama, painting, literature, music) than in actually putting the effort & talent into getting there.

i love a good videogame, but yeah. it's pretty sad, to think about how huge the videogame business is and how much potential is wasted while it's content to feed exclusively on the sort of material that comes out of pop-culture's anus.

[Cheese]

a lot of people don't go "this was shit" :blink:

Course they do, in fact this is a common saying amongst the dozens of pasty faced geek kids who just spent 1625 hours completing Final Oxymoron 26:

"Gee, this game was dogshit. I was I had the mad skillz like Busyman and could play a proper game."

:happy:

[Cheese]

Though to be fair the endings for a lot of computer games suck, Half Life 2 springs to mind. i find the narrative endings to most videogames, regardless of genre or platform, quite unsatisfying. i love playing games, i really do. dislike playing shoddy ones, take delight in the few that strike the right chord for me... just like anyone else. but i feel videogames are (in nearly every instance) narratively very immature. sometimes makes me think i'd rather just have games with no semblance of a plot whatsoever (Tetris, Pac-Man, Pole Position) rather than all this stuff that's got the pretense of dramatic maturity ("it's the Gone With The Wind... of videogames! it's the War & Peace... of videogames!") but in reality has no greater dramatic aspirations than a typical episode of Miami Vice (see: GTA Vice City) or an above-average Steven Seagal movie (see: Metal Gear Solid 2). that's relatively good, for a videogame, but a bit pathetic when considered as part of all narrative media.

i mean, the fact that the videogame industry insists on adapting material near-exclusively from other media's most disposable garbage (Van Helsing: The Movie: The Game, Dukes Of Hazzard: The TV Show: The Movie: The Game, Starsky & Hutch: The TV Show: The Movie: The Game, Gundam-followed-by-whatever-numbers-and-acronyms) says a lot to me about the end to which videogame developers are pursuing the whole narrative/storytelling element. may as well not pursue it at all, if that's where they intend to take it. the medium itself has potential, but the game developers seem more interested in falsely claiming that games have already reached the same maturity as much older media (drama, painting, literature, music) than in actually putting the effort & talent into getting there.

i love a good videogame, but yeah. it's pretty sad, to think about how huge the videogame business is and how much potential is wasted while it's content to feed exclusively on the sort of material that comes out of pop-culture's anus.

Good post. I do chuckle when I read "good storyline" in a game review or a forum post. Really they should qualify it with " - for a computer game". It's no coincidence that games made into movies suck, it's because the games themselves are derivative of movie cliches in the first place.

[Busyman]

Some have said certain RPGs were dogshit. When was that realized?

Congratulations, you asked the question properly this time.

So to answer. I don't think I've ever completed a game I didn't like from any genre. But with respect to RPG games I've completed some of them and thought, "Gee, the end to this story sucks balls". That's mostly the Japanese ones to be honest, you expect all the loose ends of the confusing plot and storyline to be tied up but it never is. I'm guessing the story doesn't translate. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the game itself just that the story ending was anti-climatic.

Though to be fair the endings for a lot of computer games suck, Half Life 2 springs to mind.
Translation: The question had enough sugar for you.

When you complete an 80-hour RPG it's really, if anything, the ending that would suck.
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Are there any other of you turn-based RPG players that finished a lengthy game and the game, not the ending, sucked ass?

Suck ass endings are quite common in any genre so that pretty much goes without saying (yet I said it:blink: ).

[Cheese]

Did you ever try the Shining Force games on the Megadrive? Those were great games, tactical turn-based combat at its best with an engaging storyline. Worth playing on an emulator if you get the chance, they are defiently a part of RPG history. I think some sequels came out for the later Sega consoles but I had grown out of consoles by then. yes, and i still own all 3 in mint condition. missing scenario II & III of III though. stupid regions. GREAT games though none-the-less!!! also, the ps2 recently released another shining force. i WILL get it will it cums down in price.

someone also mentioned phantasy star. those were the sega dragon warrriors. notice, i didn't say final fantasy... i still own all 4 phantasy star games also. mint condition. i have phantasy star online I, II & III too. phantasy star is GREAT. phantasy star II was BEST! III was dogshit. remake of I should be cummin' out sometime.. sega? be nice for a V though...
Yeah, I liked Phantasy Star II as well. Took me a weekend to complete that, which meant I could take the game back to the store for a refund.

I seem to recall that some of the later Shining Force editions are around to download, I suppose with an emulator they might be playable. :shifty:

[GepperRankins]

i know people who've played through final fantasy games 4 or 5 times :dabs:

[Delorean]

I have played FFVII 4 times, 2 times FFVIII and FFIX 2 times aswell!
I'm looking forward to play FFXII and if i manage to get a PS2 sooner to play X and X-2!!

[3RA1N1AC]

good god, y'all.

[Buffalo]

I'm a FF8 fan,
I did try the others but after playing 8 just could not better that for me.
Damn I've had the game a long time.
I've only replaced two games from my PS2 collection, GTA/SA, & FF8

[Guyver]

I'm a FF8 fan,
I did try the others but after playing 8 just could not better that for me.
Damn I've had the game a long time.
I've only replaced two games from my PS2 collection, GTA/SA, & FF8

My ff8 disk one is broken....thats like the best disk too lol

i find myself playing ff7 and 9 lately, when i have nothing else to do...