Robert Jordan

[tracydani]

This is a pretty good series with a whole lot going on and a large cast of "main" characters that are used throughout.
Each of these main characters play an important part in the story and are usually devided into various parts of the land so there are several "mini" stories going on to create the whole.

[MagicNakor]

Egh...not another Waste of Text fan. :P

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[imported_QuietSilence!]

damm i just got them and havent read them yet Magic now u got me not wanting to read them <_<

oh well i get board some day and read them anyway

[MagicNakor]

Well, it&#39;s either a series you like or you hate. I&#39;m the latter. ;) But don&#39;t let my opinion on it stop you from reading it and forming your own.

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[tracydani]

LOL, it may not be one of the great literary works but it is a good story with plenty of interesting characters to keep you going. :)


Another waste of text series is L Ron Hubbard&#39;s Mission Earth. Not a great work but a fun read :D

@QuietSilence&#33;, these 2 series are in no way alike in case you have read the latter and did not like it. But I think some may lump them together because they are not considered great works :)

[MagicNakor]

Hubbard&#39;s work is so phenomenally bad he makes Robert Jordan look good. :D Plus, he invented Scientology.

A good fantasy series is George R.R. Martin&#39;s A Song of Fire and Ice. Or is it Ice and Fire? I can never remember at 5 in the morning. ;) The first book is called A Game of Thrones, at any rate.

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[tracydani]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@11 May 2003 - 12:51
Hubbard&#39;s work is so phenomenally bad he makes Robert Jordan look good. :D Plus, he invented Scientology.
I have to agree :D But that is what makes it such a fun read. I just couldn&#39;t stop once I started, and the only reason I bought the books was because I found 9 of the ten book series in used hardback for &#036;1.00 a piece. Good or bad I couldn&#39;t resist.

Actually, I had seen the series for many years and would not buy it because of the scientology bit. A little too close to religion for my taste. I thought the books were about the religion and didn&#39;t want to check them out :rolleyes:

I will have to check out that other series you mentioned when I get caught up with my current reading :)

[imported_QuietSilence!]

well now u done it &#33;

hubbard has 1 exelent book called battlfield earth it is and epic hardcore sifi book and a classic in its own right

though i must agree i didnt like the Mission earth series much

and Scientology was not ment too be the cualt related book it became it was simply a kinda text on phycolgy about how the humin brain works and is years beyond any thing sigmond froyed did but nothing to get exsited about if u read it just rember it not the religen that its been bulit up to by the scientolgests its just another book on phycology thu a vary good one

if u have not read battfield earth u realy should it will change ur mind about hubbard

dont go by the movie it was nothing like the book and wasnt vary good at all

just like starship tropers was nothing like heinleins book

i was vary disapointed in both these movies

[tracydani]

Batelfield Earth was a very good book. Nothing like the Mission Earth series.

And they didn&#39;t even try with the movie :rolleyes: I really looked forward to it and it looks as if they spent about &#036;75.00 to make it :(

[Gandalf on Crack]

back to the main topic:

I would say the 1st 3 books in Wheel of Time are so exciting i crapped my pants twice B) ok kidding but the 1st 3 are great i am on the most recent one the 10th book and i&#39;d have to say the since the 8th book it hasn&#39;t been anywhere exciting as the 1st half... A theory my friend has come up with last year and which still stands true with a lot of the observations ive taken is that most ppl who get into the book will make the 5th book the make or break..you will either read the 5th and finish the series or you will stop there...just depends on the person. I am having alot of difficulty with the 10th book, I am past half way...but ive been stuck there...I can&#39;t pull out the motivation to read it....just is to boring to be a Jordan work, i think.


I still think everyone should read the 1st 3 books. "Eye of the World" is the 1st.


Off Topic:
I started reading Mission Earth last year....it had to be the worst series of books ive ever read..thats plain it...so fucking stupid i wanted to shoot someone...wether it was Hubbard or not.

[MagicNakor]

Hubbard hasn&#39;t written anything that deserves to be called a classic. ;) Battlefield Earth is just as bad as the movie was campy. I honestly cannot stand his writing. If I was forced to read either a book by him, and a book by Robert Jordan, I&#39;d pick Jordan. ;) But unless you know me personally, I guess that&#39;s not saying much. I&#39;d have to disagree with your assessment of his Scientology books (I think it includes Dianetics as well?), QuietSilence&#33; It&#39;s not really psychology at all.

The 10th book is horribly boring. I swear you&#39;re over 600 pages in before anything actually happens.

I don&#39;t understand how reading horrible books is fun. ;) Unless it&#39;s so horrible that it subscribes to the train-wreck theory. I must admit I&#39;ve read a few books based on that. But there&#39;s been far more that I&#39;ve just scoffed and tossed it aside.

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[imported_QuietSilence!]

i agree in Mission earth series but battlefield earth was not part of that series it was a book untoo its self

LOL i cant beleve u acualy got as far as #10 in mission earth i quit after 3

it kinda obvious ur not a SiFi fan or at least hardcore sifi this book is defanatly in the the top 10 best Hardcore SiFis of all time

and i miss stated about the sintology book i ment Dianetics didnt know there was one called Scientology thought that was the name of Dianetics and that the cult was called Scientologests

the Dianetics book is a great way to learn how u think and get rid of some of the programing we all grew up with

but the Scientologests just took it too far it was not ment to be the bible of a cult and it took psychology to the next step

u realy should read it but not for pleasher for knowlage it a text not a noval

[MagicNakor]

Not at all. I enjoy sci-fi quite a bit. I just cannot stand Hubbard. ;) He receives my ire. Very few authours do. Robert Jordan is another one, and Laurell K. Hamilton is starting to get it too. For the love of all things holy woman, if you&#39;re write your books as plotless, pointless, purple-prose, stop marketing them as a supernatural mystery story&#33; :angry: :angry:

He&#39;s written numerous books on his Scientology bullshit. I read through Dianetics and whatever Scientology named one was advertised with it on the Space station, but, as I said before, it&#39;s bullshit.

Some of them include:

The Emotional Tone Scale
Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective Purification Program
Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health
What Is Scientology?
Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought
Scientology: A New Slant on Life
Child Dianetics
How to Resolve Conflicts
Learning How to Learn
Self Analysis
Have You Lived Before This Life
The problems of work : scientology applied to the work-a-day world
Dianetics: The Evolution of a Science
Dianetics 55

And so on. There&#39;s 214 results for him off Amazon. ;) I read them years ago, I think the year they were published, or the year after, so I can&#39;t quote it, alas.

This is the Science Fiction Book Club&#39;s top 10 list of "The Most Significant SF & Fantasy Books of the Last 50 Years, 1953-2002"

1 The Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien
2 The Foundation Trilogy, Isaac Asimov
3 Dune, Frank Herbert
4 Stranger in a Strange Land, Robert A. Heinlein
5 A Wizard of Earthsea, Ursula K. Le Guin
6 Neuromancer, William Gibson
7 Childhood&#39;s End, Arthur C. Clarke
8 Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Philip K. Dick
9 The Mists of Avalon, Marion Zimmer Bradley
10 Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury

with the remaining 40 as follows:

The Book of the New Sun, Gene Wolfe
A Canticle for Leibowitz, Walter M. Miller, Jr.
The Caves of Steel, Isaac Asimov
Children of the Atom, Wilmar Shiras
Cities in Flight, James Blish
The Colour of Magic, Terry Pratchett
Dangerous Visions, edited by Harlan Ellison
Deathbird Stories, Harlan Ellison
The Demolished Man, Alfred Bester
Dhalgren, Samuel R. Delany
Dragonflight, Anne McCaffrey
Ender&#39;s Game, Orson Scott Card
The First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Stephen R. Donaldson
The Forever War, Joe Haldeman
Gateway, Frederik Pohl
Harry Potter and the Philosopher&#39;s Stone, J.K. Rowling
The Hitchhiker&#39;s Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
I Am Legend, Richard Matheson
Interview with the Vampire, Anne Rice
The Left Hand of Darkness, Ursula K. Le Guin
Little, Big, John Crowley
Lord of Light, Roger Zelazny
The Man in the High Castle, Philip K. Dick
Mission of Gravity, Hal Clement
More Than Human, Theodore Sturgeon
The Rediscovery of Man, Cordwainer Smith
On the Beach, Nevil Shute
Rendezvous with Rama, Arthur C. Clarke
Ringworld, Larry Niven
Rogue Moon, Algis Budrys
The Silmarillion, J.R.R. Tolkien
Slaughterhouse-5, Kurt Vonnegut
Snow Crash, Neal Stephenson
Stand on Zanzibar, John Brunner
The Stars My Destination, Alfred Bester
Starship Troopers, Robert A. Heinlein
Stormbringer, Michael Moorcock
The Sword of Shannara, Terry Brooks
Timescape, Gregory Benford
To Your Scattered Bodies Go, Philip Jose Farmer


:D I like lists.

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Edit to add: Source (http://www.sfbc.com/doc/content/sitelets/FSE_Sitelet_Theme_2.jhtml;jsessionid=RYTZLKRZZTUYYCWKAQSSFGI?SID=nmsfctop50)

[imported_QuietSilence!]

Interview with the Vampire, Anne Rice ?

isnt this horror? i know some peps think horror is a sub section of sifi but i dont
just cant stand horror

lot of fantacy in there too but thats more understandable

and no lacky&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
no wiss and hickmen&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
no McCaffrey&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; ... oh theres 1 from the mid of a series
no Eddings&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
no Salvatore&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
these are some of the best fantacy wrighters of all time&#33;

thats got to be there top seller list just for this month or somthing but it is an exelent list of good books :)

also i was talkin about hardcore sifi only

things like:

battfeild earth - hubbard
the lens men series - smith
two faces of tomarow - Hogan
robot series - asimov
RoboTech - McKinney (hard core but not too good)
Mutineers&#39; Moon - Weber
Sector General series - white

do u like any of these type books? lots of detail of tech in the books based on true scince thou beond what we know how to do

[MagicNakor]

The horror genre is actually a subgenre of fantasy. And nope, this is the Sci-Fi Book Club&#39;s Most Significant SF & Fantasy Books of the Last 50 Years, 1953-2002.

Never said you have to agree with it. ;) I don&#39;t agree with it in its entirety either.


As for your question, I&#39;ll have to come back to it another day when I&#39;m able to think. <_< Being fuzzy-minded isn&#39;t a favourite thing of mine, and unfortunately, it&#39;s what I am right now.

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