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fabrizzio
05-31-2003, 01:44 PM
I've seen on tv an article about the arrest of thousands of Kazaa users in italy, they've all been fined to1023 Euro for sharing copyrighted files.

What do you all think of the idea that they will do this in other countries as well?

Dutch kazaa user.
Somewhat worried about ballbusters in blue.

fugley
05-31-2003, 01:50 PM
Can't find anything in on the net news sources!

fugley
05-31-2003, 01:53 PM
Nah don't worry - unless someone shows me a link to a report - I aint gettin restless about this one! Cos believe me if there even just a few arrests it would be major news everywhere!

So unless you know otherwise this really is bullsh*t

fugley
05-31-2003, 02:00 PM
and you can bet yer bottom dollar the actions if any would be in the states!

fabrizzio
05-31-2003, 02:23 PM
the link is

http://www.rtl.nl/(/financien/rtlz/home/)/...gt_op_kazaa.xml (http://www.rtl.nl/(/financien/rtlz/home/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2003/05_mei/30/buitenland/0530_Italie_jaagt_op_kazaa.xml)

It's in dutch but is says that the users have all been fined for the above stated amount.

Thats's some shitty news

fugley
05-31-2003, 02:31 PM
Can anyone find some other sources for this apparently disasterous news?

fabrizzio
05-31-2003, 03:31 PM
Just take my word for it fugley that's it says that. It's disturbing isn't it?
I'm wondering if this will happen in other countries as well.

fugley
05-31-2003, 03:37 PM
Ok Ok! But what is the source of the article - just as there are bad newpaperss who report lies there are even worse net sites! For all we know at the moment that site could be run by anyone, maybe even the film or music industry.

And also I think my point was fair - if this has happened - the message would spread across every media at faster than lightning speed.

The real surprising thing about your string is the little interest it's getting. (apart from me that is)

I wish some other brains would engage!

fugley
05-31-2003, 03:40 PM
Bet PB Montgolfier could help - but I think we have to pray or something first!

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 03:41 PM
aint no pigs doin that shit i think in any other countries...

u know how many people use Kazaa ?!!

think how many CENSORED they would need to arrest every one of us....

fugley
05-31-2003, 03:50 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Billy me is ashamed of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 15:41
aint no pigs doin that shit i think in any other countries...

u know how many people use Kazaa ?!!

think how many CENSORED they would need to arrest every one of us....
Could you possibly explain the last line of that post.

fugley
05-31-2003, 03:59 PM
Sorry to correct you PB but - Do we really wanna know? I sure as shit don't!

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier+31 May 2003 - 15:56--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PB Montgolfier @ 31 May 2003 - 15:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 15:41
aint no pigs doin that shit i think in any other countries...

u know how many people use Kazaa ?&#33;&#33;

think how many CENSORED they would need to arrest every one of us....
Could you possibly explain the last line of that post. [/b][/quote]
yeah CENSORED is a derogatory name for the police...

i meant that they would need a ridiculous amount of pigs to arrest everyone of us...

and what about sharman networks guys ?&#33;

they are on some island smokin dope all day probably so i dont think they are gonna arrest them&#33;

Rat Faced:
Its also a racial comment.......so stop it please.

fugley
05-31-2003, 04:38 PM
Perhaps you were right PB, this is either a quick witted adjustment with a view to apparent retraction or something far more sinister&#33;


Gettin like Holmes and Watson What?

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 04:40 PM
bit more reeves and mortimor

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+31 May 2003 - 16:20--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 31 May 2003 - 16:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 15:56
<!--QuoteBegin--crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 15:41
aint no pigs doin that shit i think in any other countries...

u know how many people use Kazaa ?&#33;&#33;

think how many CENSORED they would need to arrest every one of us....
Could you possibly explain the last line of that post.
yeah CENSORED is a derogatory name for the police...

i meant that they would need a ridiculous amount of pigs to arrest everyone of us...

and what about sharman networks guys ?&#33;

they are on some island smokin dope all day probably so i dont think they are gonna arrest them&#33; [/b][/quote]
Where is this derogatory name for the Police in use.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 04:45 PM
where i live.

no racism intended with that post if thats what you thought....

nor with my sig&#33;

hes a character in a TV series &#33;&#33;


im NOT racist &#33;&#33;

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 04:48 PM
The people of Northern Ireland call the Police "Black Bastards". Do you know why ?

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 16:48
The people of Northern Ireland call the Police "Black Bastards". Do you know why ?
i know why, as i live here.

It comes from the uniform they used to wear, it was black....

and not very many like the police, so they called them bastards (which is also a derogatory comment, but can also mean a child without a father).

this enough?

fugley
05-31-2003, 04:52 PM
Billy had you considered the possibility that P D Montgolfier could infact also be PC as in Poleece Constaball Montgolfier. And for all you know I, also could member of the Her Royal Majesties Police Force and to further compound the issue we may both be of Constables of Colour&#33;

Wriggle yer way out of dat one clat&#33;

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 04:53 PM
paranoia is rife....

i still hate pigs tho.... :lol:

no real reason, just most of them arnt nice people at all...
then again im sure some genuinley are......


some

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+31 May 2003 - 16:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 31 May 2003 - 16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 16:48
The people of Northern Ireland call the Police "Black Bastards". Do you know why ?
i know why, as i live here.

It comes from the uniform they used to wear, it was black....

and not very many like the police, so they called them bastards (which is also a derogatory comment, but can also mean a child without a father).

this enough? [/b][/quote]
I was just wondering as I had never heard it before. I work in Northern Ireland quite often and as a result have a lot of friends who live there. Is the phrase commonly used, or is it just your immediate peer group.

fugley
05-31-2003, 04:55 PM
What a tangled web young Billy Weaves hey PB?

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by fugley@31 May 2003 - 16:52
Billy had you considered the possibility that P D Montgolfier could infact also be PC as in Poleece Constaball Montgolfier. And for all you know I, also could member of the Her Royal Majesties Police Force and to further compound the issue we may both be of Constables of Colour&#33;

Wriggle yer way out of dat one clat&#33;
Majesty&#39;s. If you were a member you would know that.

It means belonging to Her Majesty. Not the plural.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier+31 May 2003 - 16:56--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PB Montgolfier @ 31 May 2003 - 16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--fugley@31 May 2003 - 16:52
Billy had you considered the possibility that P D Montgolfier could infact also be PC as in Poleece Constaball Montgolfier.&nbsp; And for all you know I, also could member of the Her Royal Majesties Police Force and to further compound the issue we may both be of Constables of Colour&#33;

Wriggle yer way out of dat one clat&#33;
Majesty&#39;s. If you were a member you would know that.

It means belonging to Her Majesty. Not the plural. [/b][/quote]
i thought this was about possible arrests?

let&#39;s not get onto vocabulary folks, some people make typing errors, its that simple....
get over it....

shit fug&#39;s maybe he is a pig after all....

fugley
05-31-2003, 04:58 PM
Cheers - just testin gnorf&#33; gnorf&#33;



By the way Bill yer cool again cos PB has scrutinized not only me grammar but also the evidence and you has been judged ok&#33;

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+31 May 2003 - 16:57--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 31 May 2003 - 16:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 16:56
<!--QuoteBegin--fugley@31 May 2003 - 16:52
Billy had you considered the possibility that P D Montgolfier could infact also be PC as in Poleece Constaball Montgolfier.* And for all you know I, also could member of the Her Royal Majesties Police Force and to further compound the issue we may both be of Constables of Colour&#33;

Wriggle yer way out of dat one clat&#33;
Majesty&#39;s. If you were a member you would know that.

It means belonging to Her Majesty. Not the plural.
i thought this was about possible arrests?

let&#39;s not get onto vocabulary folks, some people make typing errors, its that simple....
get over it....

shit fug&#39;s maybe he is a pig after all.... [/b][/quote]
I may be a pig. You are the one who is the racist.

fugley
05-31-2003, 05:02 PM
Now hang on a minute Billy&#33; - Just what is wrong with pigs? Ok so they roll around in mud and eat their own shit but so wot there only human&#33;


Could there be a flaw in this Argument Chief Constable?

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier+31 May 2003 - 16:59--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PB Montgolfier @ 31 May 2003 - 16:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 16:57

Originally posted by -PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 16:56
<!--QuoteBegin--fugley@31 May 2003 - 16:52
Billy had you considered the possibility that P D Montgolfier could infact also be PC as in Poleece Constaball Montgolfier.* And for all you know I, also could member of the Her Royal Majesties Police Force and to further compound the issue we may both be of Constables of Colour&#33;

Wriggle yer way out of dat one clat&#33;
Majesty&#39;s. If you were a member you would know that.

It means belonging to Her Majesty. Not the plural.
i thought this was about possible arrests?

let&#39;s not get onto vocabulary folks, some people make typing errors, its that simple....
get over it....

shit fug&#39;s maybe he is a pig after all....
I may be a pig. You are the one who is the racist. [/b][/quote]
im sorry, that is ridiculous, how dare you accuse me of being a racist?

pigs taste ok, but only as bacon...

as for people of other races, i embrace them with open arms &#33; as with all people&#33;

unlike our donut-eating friend here

fugley
05-31-2003, 05:05 PM
But PB you mean.......we.......we&#39;re right all along&#33;

How did you figure it out Scooby?

clocker
05-31-2003, 05:06 PM
What is this Martin and Lewis schtick you guys have going on?

loz
05-31-2003, 05:06 PM
The past weeks has the Italian police enter done by certain 3000 internet users. They became there, after the &#39;listen in&#39; with their internet traffic, of suspected that they illegal computer truce exchanged. The fine is in Italy 1032 Euro.

That&#39;s the english translation, I would have thought that if 3000 users had been fined it would have reached &#39;world news&#39; status either that or it is a lie......
How do they listen in with their internet traffic? Sounds BS to me.

TheDave
05-31-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 16:45
where i live.

no racism intended with that post if thats what you thought....

nor with my sig&#33;

hes a character in a TV series &#33;&#33;


im NOT racist &#33;&#33;
lol. i hate papa lazaroo.

because of him my brothers mates always come up to me in the street and start shouting "iz dat dave", its frikkin annoying

fugley
05-31-2003, 05:07 PM
I&#39;m with Loz - thanks&#33; But it looks like there is gonna be an arrest in this string. So the title of it is fitting hey Inspector PB? :D

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:10 PM
once again that oaf has destroyed my day....

sparkyjones23
05-31-2003, 05:11 PM
this is a report in italian translated by google :o
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...-8%26edition%3D (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.rai.it/RAInet/news/RNw/pub/articolo/raiRNewsArticolo/0,7605,51204%255Ecronache%255E6%255E,00.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkazaa%2Bfine%2B1032%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26edition%3D)

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:15 PM
that makes no sense the google translator is terrible.

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by clocker@31 May 2003 - 17:06
What is this Martin and Lewis schtick you guys have going on?
The Professionals ?

http://image.uploader.net/uploaded/CE05J497.gif

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier+31 May 2003 - 17:15--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PB Montgolfier @ 31 May 2003 - 17:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--clocker@31 May 2003 - 17:06
What is this Martin and Lewis schtick you guys have going on?
The Professionals ?

http://image.uploader.net/uploaded/CE05J497.gif [/b][/quote]
i prefer bill thanks.

the king will do as well

Tyke
05-31-2003, 05:38 PM
Italy tackles users Kazaa

The Italian police force tackles Internet users hard who share files by means of programmes such as Kazaa or Morpheus.




To enter
De afgelopen weken heeft de Italiaanse politie invallen gedaan bij zeker 3000 internetgebruikers. They became there, after &#39; listen &#39; with their Internet movement, of they suspected that illegally computer files exchanged. The fine is in Italy 1032 euro.

Copyrights
By means of &#39; peer-to-peer-programma&#39;s &#39; worldwide music files, films, books and computer software are exchanged. The Italian law prohibits that because of the breach of the copyrights. The possession and use of the uitwisselprogramma&#39;s in itself have not been prohibited.


See also:
The site of Kazaa
The site of Morpheus



©RTLNieuws.Netherlands



That&#39;s the best I can find :P

Still not sure of the validity of the story however....
I&#39;ll be using PeerGuardian as usual though B)

Oh and the "Black Bastards" thing, yeah I&#39;ve heard the phrase used in Irish Rebel music - "You can tell the RUC, Those Black Bastards from Drumcree" for one: So I&#39;ll trust that it wasn&#39;t racist, but just a regional phrase. Black Bastard round here though tends to be a derogatory term for a different group of people though, so it might be wise not to use the phrase too often ;)

Pigs, Filth, police bastards etc etc might be more appropriate, as surely there&#39;s no police here to take offence at this, if there are, then WTF are you doing here, it&#39;s illegal to share copyright files. Handcuff yourself, beat yourself round the head with your baton unnecessarily a few times, shoot yourself with a plastic bullet and then drag yourself to the nick, making sure to bang your head on every door that you pass through because you were resisting your self-arrest, and hand yourself in&#33;

I love our local plod, can&#39;t you tell ;)

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Tyke@31 May 2003 - 17:38
Oh and the "Black Bastards" thing, yeah I&#39;ve heard the phrase used in Irish Rebel music - "You can tell the RUC, Those Black Bastards from Drumcree" for one: So I&#39;ll trust that it wasn&#39;t racist, but just a regional phrase. Black Bastard round here though tends to be a derogatory term for a different group of people though, so it might be wise not to use the phrase too often ;)

Pigs, Filth, police bastards etc etc might be more appropriate, as surely there&#39;s no police here to take offence at this, if there are, then WTF are you doing here, it&#39;s illegal to share copyright files. Handcuff yourself, beat yourself round the head with your baton unnecessarily a few times, shoot yourself with a plastic bullet and then drag yourself to the nick, making sure to bang your head on every door that you pass through because you were resisting your self-arrest, and hand yourself in&#33;

I love our local plod, can&#39;t you tell ;)
yeah i didnt realise as i posted it...

just so used here, thats all, and yeah it is used in that song, its about a thing that goes on here every summer, people die, police shoot people, that sort of thing.
not my bag.
i heard they arnt using plastic bullets anymore but a kind of "bag" bullet that they shoot, like the one in the jackass movie he gets shot with if you seen it.....
course that dont make it any better&#33;

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+31 May 2003 - 17:43--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 31 May 2003 - 17:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Tyke@31 May 2003 - 17:38
Oh and the "Black Bastards" thing, yeah I&#39;ve heard the phrase used in Irish Rebel music - "You can tell the RUC, Those Black Bastards from Drumcree" for one:&nbsp; So I&#39;ll trust that it wasn&#39;t racist, but just a regional phrase.&nbsp; Black Bastard round here though tends to be a derogatory term for a different group of people though, so it might be wise not to use the phrase too often&nbsp; ;)

Pigs, Filth, police bastards etc etc might be more appropriate, as surely there&#39;s no police here to take offence at this, if there are, then WTF are you doing here, it&#39;s illegal to share copyright files.&nbsp; Handcuff yourself, beat yourself round the head with your baton unnecessarily a few times, shoot yourself with a plastic bullet and then drag yourself to the nick, making sure to bang your head on every door that you pass through because you were resisting your self-arrest, and hand yourself in&#33;

I love our local plod, can&#39;t you tell&nbsp; ;)
yeah i didnt realise as i posted it...

just so used here, thats all, and yeah it is used in that song, its about a thing that goes on here every summer, people die, police shoot people, that sort of thing.
not my bag.
i heard they arnt using plastic bullets anymore but a kind of "bag" bullet that they shoot, like the one in the jackass movie he gets shot with if you seen it.....
course that dont make it any better&#33; [/b][/quote]
Ah, it&#39;s sectarianism, not racism. My mistake. That&#39;s okay then.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:47 PM
sectarianism is not OK, sorry.
I have experienced it all my life, dont try and talk down about something so serious. People have died because of it, suffered horribly because of it, and not only in this country.
gain some respect.
or maybe you were being sarcastic.

fugley
05-31-2003, 05:47 PM
It&#39;s OK young Bill yer off the hook, with me at least.

But there is still the poo thing? Must confess am a bit concerned. :unsure:

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:53 PM
nah i have no real fascination with excrement.

some other fascinations in life tho.... :D

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 17:47
sectarianism is not OK, sorry.
I have experienced it all my life, dont try and talk down about something so serious. People have died because of it, suffered horribly because of it, and not only in this country.
gain some respect.
or maybe you were being sarcastic.
Well if it&#39;s not okay don&#39;t use sectarian phrases.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 05:59 PM
yeah ok then, i wont.
i dont like the police still tho :lol:

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 05:59 PM
Not calling you a racist now so take a deep breath and relax but,

My family are from Newry (NI) and black bastard is a derogatory term for a Protestant and thats why it could be taken as racist.

As for shitting dolls I encountered a strange phenomenon earlier, i took a dump and when i checked it there was nothing there any suggestions?

Tyke
05-31-2003, 06:10 PM
Sorry, think this was partly my fault for touching on this subject.

It&#39;s not a sectarian word such as "fenian bastard" is an anti-irish sectarian word. Its anti-copper, and there are many on both sides of any sectarian divide, just as there are who do not place themselves on any "side", who hate the police for whatever reason.

**edit** OK, so it was a bad choice of word, nevermind, points have been made, time to move on

And the discussion was about the police, arresting kazaa users, not about the six counties (/me says in an attempt to swing this back on topic and away from a debate which has no relevance here, which has raged for years without conclusion, so is unlikely to be resolved here&#33;)

sharedholder
05-31-2003, 06:14 PM
:lol: :lol: I &#39;m not italian but i live in ITALY and never heard about people arested because a p2p programs ,and you know what ?the same thing i heard about dutch people so i think is a kind of legend or some bulshit wrote by RIIA . :lol: :lol:

fugley
05-31-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Manny Calavera@31 May 2003 - 17:59
Not calling you a racist now so take a deep breath and relax but,

My family are from Newry (NI) and black bastard is a derogatory term for a Protestant and thats why it could be taken as racist.

As for shitting dolls I encountered a strange phenomenon earlier, i took a dump and when i checked it there was nothing there any suggestions?
Maybe young Billy here stole it?

TheDave
05-31-2003, 06:18 PM
i live in england and i dont see the police gathering the energy to arrest anybody

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 17:59
yeah ok then, i wont.
i dont like the police still tho :lol:
Fair enough. Nice reasonable approach.

If you don&#39;t like us that&#39;s okay. We get paid for it.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Manny Calavera@31 May 2003 - 17:59
My family are from Newry (NI) and black bastard is a derogatory term for a Protestant and thats why it could be taken as racist.

Im sorry (i dont mean to be rude to you or your family by the way), but this is wrong.
It is used only with reference to the police, mainly by members of the catholic community, but of course from both.
It is also used by racist&#39;s to call members of the black community.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier+31 May 2003 - 18:20--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PB Montgolfier @ 31 May 2003 - 18:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 17:59
yeah ok then, i wont.
i dont like the police still tho&nbsp; :lol:
Fair enough. Nice reasonable approach.

If you don&#39;t like us that&#39;s okay. We get paid for it. [/b][/quote]
i appreciate you have a job to do man, i understand the community needs you.
you just dont serve them sufficiently...
anyway, sorry on the thread, its all bull shit i think, theres no chance cops will raid peoples houses and charge them 1000 euro &#33;&#33; thats about fucking 800 quid here in the UK&#33;&#33;&#33;

Wolfmight
05-31-2003, 06:24 PM
Do u ever see the mafia sell copies of a movie that just came out in theaters on dvd?

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@31 May 2003 - 18:24
Do u ever see the mafia sell copies of a movie that just came out in theaters on dvd?
not me, no.

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+31 May 2003 - 18:23--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 31 May 2003 - 18:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 18:20
<!--QuoteBegin--crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 17:59
yeah ok then, i wont.
i dont like the police still tho* :lol:
Fair enough. Nice reasonable approach.

If you don&#39;t like us that&#39;s okay. We get paid for it.
i appreciate you have a job to do man, i understand the community needs you.
you just dont serve them sufficiently...
anyway, sorry on the thread, its all bull shit i think, theres no chance cops will raid peoples houses and charge them 1000 euro &#33;&#33; thats about fucking 800 quid here in the UK&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
As I am sure you will understand there are lots of complex issues. Particularly in divived communities.

Every time you are percieved as serving one part of the community it is seen as a bad thing by the other. Even when what you are trying to do is serve both.

Take for example trying to get young children into School. I don&#39;t need to go into the details for you. But there was a no win situation if ever there was one. BTW I am not a cop in Ireland but I can appreciate their difficulties more than most.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 06:40 PM
no you dont need to go into any details.
i observe the political and social activity in my country avidly, however it sickens me each day what goes on here. I have chosen not to live here anymore (just to let you know). Not only because of this, but it was a small contributing factor to my decision.

sharedholder
05-31-2003, 06:41 PM
Do u ever see the mafia sell copies of a movie that just came out in theaters on dvd?


Yes i live in ITALY and you can buy all the new movies at the market on dvd, all the dvd-s coming from the south of ITALY (SICILIA)

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 18:20
Im sorry (i dont mean to be rude to you or your family by the way
Dont worry Billy I was just putting a perspective across

No-one could offend me lifes tooooo short

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Manny Calavera@31 May 2003 - 18:42
No-one could offend me lifes tooooo short
amen my friend &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
:D
:D
:D

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 06:47 PM
And by the way people Northern Ireland is a fantastic place. Dont judge by what you hear or see on the tv ;)

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Manny Calavera@31 May 2003 - 18:47
And by the way people Northern Ireland is a fantastic place. Dont judge by what you hear or see on the tv ;)
yeah but a lot of idiots live here

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 19:11
yeah but a lot of idiots live here
Don&#39;t worry they&#39;re not exclusive to NI :lol:

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 07:18 PM
yeah suppose thats tru &#33;&#33;

small-minded freaks are aplenty here tho, its sad and frustrating. i need away &#33;

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 07:18 PM
Go to the Giants Causeway, stay at the Causeway Hotel. The scenery is magic, it&#39;s very like the west coast of Scotland. The people are more hospitable than anywhere else I have ever been. Eat at the Hotel. Perhaps get the mixed grill, but only if you want to suffer death by meat. Maybe visit Bushmills and have a wee look about. It really is well worth a visit

Don&#39;t however do what I did on one occasion and get pished in Belfast City Centre, then get lost and have to flag a taxi at 1 in the morning while unable to speak coherently. Having said that i wouldn&#39;t advise that in Glasgow, Cardiff or London either.

namzuf9
05-31-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 19:18
Go to the Giants Causeway, stay at the Causeway Hotel. The scenery is magic, it&#39;s very like the west coast of Scotland. The people are more hospitable than anywhere else I have ever been. Eat at the Hotel. Perhaps get the mixed grill, but only if you want to suffer death by meat. Maybe visit Bushmills and have a wee look about. It really is well worth a visit

Don&#39;t however do what I did on one occasion and get pished in Belfast City Centre, then get lost and have to flag a taxi at 1 in the morning while unable to speak coherently. Having said that i wouldn&#39;t advise that in Glasgow, Cardiff or London either.
Does the causeway hotel look directly over the giants causeway?
I&#39;ve been looking to take the special someone in my life away for a few days on her birthday and you&#39;ve just given me a great idea.

Edit: Sorry. Very off topic&#33;

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by namzuf9@31 May 2003 - 19:21
Does the causeway hotel look directly over the giants causeway?
I&#39;ve been looking to take the special someone in my life away for a few days on her birthday and you&#39;ve just given me a great idea.
The giant&#39;s causeway is nice but its not the nicest place to go to in Northern Ireland, its too touristy (its basically a bunch of rocks shaped wierdly incase you didnt know), as is Bushmills.
You want to go to the Ards peninsula, there are some beautiful views there.
Donegal in the Republic of Ireland is also lovely. It is quiet, the views are outstanding, and spending time there with someone special there means a lot. :D
quality time, you know?

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 19:18
Go to the Giants Causeway, stay at the Causeway Hotel. The scenery is magic, it&#39;s very like the west coast of Scotland. The people are more hospitable than anywhere else I have ever been. Eat at the Hotel. Perhaps get the mixed grill, but only if you want to suffer death by meat. Maybe visit Bushmills and have a wee look about. It really is well worth a visit

Don&#39;t however do what I did on one occasion and get pished in Belfast City Centre, then get lost and have to flag a taxi at 1 in the morning while unable to speak coherently. Having said that i wouldn&#39;t advise that in Glasgow, Cardiff or London either.
yeah thats true it isnt too clever here in Belfast.
And taxis are a near impossibility in the centre at that time.
the night-life sucks big time here tho.

fugley
05-31-2003, 07:37 PM
Did I miss anything-- are the troubles over? (topical & significant huh?)

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@31 May 2003 - 19:26

The giant&#39;s causeway is nice but its not the nicest place to go to in Northern Ireland, its too touristy (its basically a bunch of rocks shaped wierdly incase you didnt know), as is Bushmills.

Bushmills is not a bunch of rocks. That&#39;s just you being silly.

The Hotel does not overlook the Causeway itself. However it is only a 5 minute walk. Much as the local dude does not recommend it I do. Make sure you get freshly baked wheaten bread if you do go, like I said the food at the hotel is fabulous.

http://www.geographia.com/northern-ireland/ukigia03.gif

The Bushmills distillery is only a mile or so away and you can organise a tour, interesting if you like whiskey (with an e - no not ecstacy with drink that´s just stupid)

http://www.irish-whiskey-trail.com/bushmill/bushmi~1.jpg

I don´t see how anyone could mix these two up.

crazy_billy_bats
05-31-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier@31 May 2003 - 19:59
I don´t see how anyone could mix these two up.
me neither

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 08:26 PM
Weyhey I go away for a while and you all turn a sticky situation into a nice sensible conversation.

Im impressed i think were all top fellers :D

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Manny Calavera@31 May 2003 - 20:26
Weyhey I go away for a while and you all turn a sticky situation into a nice sensible conversation.

Im impressed i think were all top fellers :D
I´m obviously tempted to suggest that while the English Flag was away everything just sorted itself out. But Obviously I won´t.

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 08:33 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Manny Calavera
05-31-2003, 08:37 PM
Shame on me, ive never been to The giants causeway or bushmills but Warrenpoint has many happy memories for me from my childhood. All except the sea its freeeeezing >_<

PB Montgolfier
05-31-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Manny Calavera@31 May 2003 - 20:37
Shame on me, ive never been to The giants causeway or bushmills but Warrenpoint has many happy memories for me from my childhood. All except the sea its freeeeezing >_<
Please put the details in my namzuf9 thread

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act...=ST&f=5&t=39405 (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=39405)

fabrizzio
06-01-2003, 01:33 PM
Is this still the same topic&#33;? anybody find some more info?

PB Montgolfier
06-01-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by fabrizzio@1 June 2003 - 13:33
Is this still the same topic&#33;? anybody find some more info?
No we decided to talk about soemthing else when you weren&#39;t looking. You should have left soemone in charge.

The MODS have been to busy in intellectual discussion to oversee the board so it has been anarchy the last couple of days.

Rat Faced
06-01-2003, 06:11 PM
Actually, I was tempeted to move this into the War Discussions part, and i was tempted to edit one of your typo&#39;s (divived, instead of divided) but didnt want people thinking a British Bobby needed help in spelling.


:rolleyes:

Tyke
06-01-2003, 06:16 PM
not bad, going from p2p arrests, to war discussions, then to holiday destinations&#33; :lol: