Senator Dickface

[RGX]

:lol:

A certain US senator is an idiot

[mdb175]

Originally posted by DeKay@18 June 2003 - 15:49
A US senator wants to develop new technology which would remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music tracks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/m...sic/2999780.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2999780.stm)
Isn't it illegal ALSO to destroy someone else's computer ? :rolleyes:

I wonder why all the weirdest people around are all in politics..uhh.. :unsure:

[well_butter_my_arse]

What a fucking ASSSSS sombody need to shut that twat up

[4play]

lol everyone knows he is full of steam.

destuction of property is illegal and they have no right to apply any usa law to people outside the country. so im safe.

still it is really impossible to implement so i would not worry.

the reg (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31287.html) seem to have the facts straight.

[pussymasterzee]

FUCK HIM

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT

[Twist3r]

whats the point of ending one crime with another crime?

[Celerystalksme]

One thing you all failed to mention is that he is from Utah...Enough Said...

[Celerystalksme]

oh yeah also F*CK THE RIAA...hope you're reading this...

[musicmaster]

What is the definition of politics?

Break it down.....

'Poly' meaning many, and 'Tics' meaning blood sucking creatures.

Go figure!! :blink:

[dumdum]

the best way to say f*** you to this guy is to make his "music" the #1 p2p download. :pirate:

http://www.hatchmusic.com/songs.html

[Lamsey]

Hmmm... maybe this would be better off in Filesharing.

[loz]

I thought he was a christian...

Maybe he should listen to the Bible (not saying I do @ all :) )


Two wrongs don't make a right

[number6]

I actually came in here to see if anyone was talking about this story after I read it on the BBC web site.

I don't think it will happen, because it flies in the face of the whole "innocent until proven guilty" ideal that is so central to the constitution of the UK and US.

I don't think it's reasonable to assume that property cannot be destroyed, as there is a long history of pirates having all their equipment confiscated (which is much the same thing).

What is astounding about all of this, however, is the fact that AOL seem to think that the best way to combat music piracy is to continue to push their own music download product "MusicNet". Now, I don't know if the BBC have got it wrong, but they quote the costs of membership to MusicNet as:

"The basic AOL $3.95 deal will give users 20 streamed songs and 20 downloads per month.

Fans can sign up for more access for up to $17.95 (£11.40) per month, which buys unlimited streams and downloads, and the ability to burn - or copy - 10 songs to blank CDs per month."

So you can burn 10 songs onto a CD per month for £11.40??!!!!!

Now THAT is piracy.

6

[tyberius]

If I use my VCR to record a movie, will the government blow it up too? How about if I record songs off the radio, will the gobernment blow up my stereo? This is ridiculous!

[Jonne]

Mr Hatch is a composer himself, having earned some $18,000 (£11,125) from his music in the last year.
I think he earned too much already from his music. Doesn't he earn enough money already being a senator? And wasn't greed one of the 7 sins ?

And i'm wondering how they'll destroy a computer from a distance, are they going to put C4 into all new harddisks?

[Rat Faced]

Why dont one of our American friends set up a political site.

Canvas politicians about how far they are prepared to go (from all parties) and let your voting peers know which way NOT to vote.


It doesnt matter how much money RIAA throws at these dirty politicians, if they arent in office.

As soon as they realise how many VOTES they are potentialy losing, they'll drop it like a brick. After all, the majority of voters (when they actually get up and vote) arent members of the Republican OR Democratic Party...they vote in their own interests.


The RIAA relies on money and selective publicity.

How many websites are there with an interest, on the net?


This is all FREE publicity.

Just a thought....you know, instead of bemoaning the situation, DO something ;)

Anyone want a new hobby ;)

[Skillian]

He may be a musician but he is also a pirate:

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,...3,59305,00.html (http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html)

[Rat Faced]

I had to do it....sent him an email through The Reg's link.


I read your views re: Protecting copyright infringement with interest.

I then read this: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,...3,59305,00.html (http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html)

and realised that if your system was in operation then most of the economy would hit the floor, as the number of PCs in business using unlicensd software is huge.

All these systems would crash...having a huge knock on effect.

As you can see, its not just small business, a Major American Airline is quoted as having unlicensed software.

Oh yes...and YOU.

Making you just another hypocritical corrupt politician, we may have fun publicising the fact during the next elections in Utah.

[Everose]

That was good, Rat Faced. Tis not only politicians that need to check the skeletons in their own closet before digging skeletons out of others closets. ;-) Politicians seems to have a strong corner in the market, though. ;-)

[Colt Seevers]

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DIE!

[Fatal Error]

Originally posted by number6@19 June 2003 - 09:43
I actually came in here to see if anyone was talking about this story after I read it on the BBC web site.

I don't think it will happen, because it flies in the face of the whole "innocent until proven guilty" ideal that is so central to the constitution of the UK and US.

I don't think it's reasonable to assume that property cannot be destroyed, as there is a long history of pirates having all their equipment confiscated (which is much the same thing).

What is astounding about all of this, however, is the fact that AOL seem to think that the best way to combat music piracy is to continue to push their own music download product "MusicNet". Now, I don't know if the BBC have got it wrong, but they quote the costs of membership to MusicNet as:

"The basic AOL $3.95 deal will give users 20 streamed songs and 20 downloads per month.

Fans can sign up for more access for up to $17.95 (£11.40) per month, which buys unlimited streams and downloads, and the ability to burn - or copy - 10 songs to blank CDs per month."

So you can burn 10 songs onto a CD per month for £11.40??!!!!!

Now THAT is piracy.

6
So I gather that we are talking about two different things here.. so unless you have the "premium" package you cant "burn" anything to a blank CD, and with it you have the "ability to burn" up to 10 songs per month to a blank CD. Is this just some fancy wording on aol's part, or am I misunderstanding your post ?

So, to my way of thinking, regardless of what, you can ONLY "burn" 10 songs per MONTH.. the average CD holds what 15-18 songs, so it would actually take 2 MONTHS to burn 1 CD and that would cost you $35.90 (US) !!

The "unlimited" part means nothing if you intend to "burn" ..

Thats not even "piracy".. thats "HIGHWAY ROBBERY" :angry:


As far as "Senator Dickfaces" proposed legislation goes.. I agree with you, I dont think it stands a snowballs chance in hell of passing, because it would have to include issues that fall OUTSIDE of filesharing that cannot be exempted under a "blanket immunity" under existing federal laws.. doing so would immediatly render any such provision "unconstitutional" as it would deny the requirement MANDATING legal redress for injury or damages, for example, lawsuits brought under PRODUCT LIABILITY statuates.

Personally, I would take a "very dim view" upon ANY elected official that sponsors or supports ANY type of legislation that has the potential to limit,deny or errode my constitutional rights or civil liberties and I urge anyone of a similar mindset to send such officials a "message" at the election booth. Just my opinion. :D

@Ratfaced: Nice e-mail ! ;)

Edit: correction

[Skillian]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@20 June 2003 - 15:34
I had to do it....sent him an email through The Reg's link.


I read your views re: Protecting copyright infringement with interest.

I then read this: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,...3,59305,00.html (http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html)

and realised that if your system was in operation then most of the economy would hit the floor, as the number of PCs in business using unlicensd software is huge.

All these systems would crash...having a huge knock on effect.

As you can see, its not just small business, a Major American Airline is quoted as having unlicensed software.

Oh yes...and YOU.

Making you just another hypocritical corrupt politician, we may have fun publicising the fact during the next elections in Utah.
Nice one Rat Faced :)

[Xanex]

HAHAHAHA this is pure genius

You can tell when someone knows dick all about the way computers or the internet actually works when they refer to "new technology"

I would like to see them destroy pc's in other countries, they may make it exempt for the companys etc from these things but as we have already discussed US laws cant be enforced in other countries unless something is agreed between the said countrys.

Any destruction of a pc outside the us in this case would cause political uproar, . even if the us pass it it will not be enforced by other countrys.


Xan