Those Of You Who Have No Files To Share.

[scorpio67]

This is for all of you who are not sharing any files on kazaa, and claim to be a k-lite master, etc. I'm sure you have all heard from them, they all try to upload from you, but in return they are not actually sharing any files.
Just a note to you, You will be cancelled if you try to upload from me, and I also
suggest that everyone checks the people who are uploading from you, check to see
if they have files to share, If not, cancel them, it's that simple.

[jay973]

How would you know if they have the privacy patch installed??
:( Nobody should cancel,its not in the spirit of these things.

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by jay973@25 June 2003 - 01:21
How would you know if they have the privacy patch installed??
:( Nobody should cancel,its not in the spirit of these things.
It's not exactlly in the spirit to be on Kazaa and have no files to share either, that is what this program is all about right. think about it, if no one has any files to share, then It really wouldn't be considered a p2p program right.???
And I will cancel anyone who does not have any files to share, it's that simple.
Pretty self explanitory if you ask me.


HAVE FILES TO SHARE OR BE CANCELLED.

[velcrom]

Slight overkill - there are a lot of people who check the option to not show their shared folder - if you have a lot of newly released movies you might not want to advertise the fact, as an example

You cannot assume that simply because you cannot see a users shared folder that he/she doesn't have one

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by velcrom@25 June 2003 - 01:27
Slight overkill - there are a lot of people who check the option to not show their shared folder - if you have a lot of newly released movies you might not want to advertise the fact, as an example

You cannot assume that simply because you cannot see a users shared folder that he/she doesn't have one
P2P exists because people share, If no one shares, no one can download.
So Please don't turn off sharing, A lot of people will cancel uploads to people who don't share, Everyone is able to share, and having a 56k modem is no excuse.

WHERE HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE??????????





HAVE FILES TO SHARE, OR BE CANCELLED, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

[velcrom]

I'm not sure you have quite grasped what people are talking about

Turning off the ability for people to see what you are sharing is not the same thing as not sharing at all

Anyway you must do what you feel is right but to be honest cancelling downloads all over the place is pretty much on the same self defeating level as not sharing any files

Why not just relax and enjoy what you have downloaded instead of worrying about who is sharing what B)

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by velcrom@25 June 2003 - 01:54
I'm not sure you have quite grasped what people are talking about

Turning off the ability for people to see what you are sharing is not the same thing as not sharing at all

Anyway you must do what you feel is right but to be honest cancelling downloads all over the place is pretty much on the same self defeating level as not sharing any files

Why not just relax and enjoy what you have downloaded instead of worrying about who is sharing what B)
I have grapsed what the concept of the p2p program is all about for you information, To me, if a person turns off the ability to share, they are not sharing,
geez what part of that do you not understand, if I do a search on that person, and the search comes back that they have no files, it is not me that has the problem, it is them, I show what I am sharing, if I didn't I would expect to be cancelled too.
and for your information, I don't cancel everyone, just those people who claim to be so-called k-lite masters 1000. and have no files to share,
I am more likely to let a person with only one file upload from me than someone who lies by saying they have files and they really don't, it's really pretty self-explanitory to me. what part of it are you not grasping the concept of????/

[jay973]

Originally posted by scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 03:20
To me, if a person turns off the ability to share, they are not sharing,

They are not turning off the ability to share.If you search for a file that they have then their file will be displayed and available for download.The privacy thing just turns off the ability to search ALL their files at once.This has benefits in circumstances such as officials searching your shared folders and has no impact on normal users who search for files amongst the general population.I.E using the search function to search EVERYBODYS files for a specific file that they want.
Hope this is now clearer.

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by jay973+25 June 2003 - 02:28--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jay973 @ 25 June 2003 - 02:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 03:20
To me, if a person turns off the ability to share, they are not sharing,

They are not turning off the ability to share.If you search for a file that they have then their file will be displayed and available for download.The privacy thing just turns off the ability to search ALL their files at once.This has benefits in circumstances such as officials searching your shared folders and has no impact on normal users who search for files amongst the general population.I.E using the search function to search EVERYBODYS files for a specific file that they want.
Hope this is now clearer. [/b][/quote]
I do a search on the user, and if it turns out they have no files, they will not show up then they are cancelled, I hope this is clearer

NO FILES TO SHARE, NO UPLOAD.
YOU WILL BE CANCELLED.

[Satan]

Originally posted by scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 02:48

I do a search on the user, and if it turns out they have no files, they will not show up then they are cancelled, I hope this is clearer

NO FILES TO SHARE, NO UPLOAD.
YOU WILL BE CANCELLED.
??????????

No, your statement is not clear at all...except for the fact you cancel ppl who appear not to be sharing...

you still don&#39;t get it do you??? there is a function called the Privacy Patch...it makes it so that a person cannot get your filelist...the person is still sharing, but nobody can get a users whole list to be able to hold it against them...obviously you hold this against them....

of course, there are leechers...which of course are scum of the earth...these are the ppl who check the box to disable sharing...

the point is, how do you know who you are cutting off???

if it really makes you feel better, go for it&#33;...eventually you will tire of it, and just concentrate on acquiring your own share and stop being so concerned about what othesr are/aren&#39;t sharing...of course, if you find a person with Kiddie Porn in their share, report em&#33;

[theprisoner]

Yea, thats the way i normally get rid of leechers but the problem is sometimes they block you from seeing their files for "privacy reasons" :unsure: . Anyway around that?

[toddiscool]

@ Scorpio - I think that the developers of this program may just know a little bit more than you about the spirit of filesharing. They decided to put that in, I dunno why, I could guess but I don&#39;t wanna be wrong. Anyways I am sharing right now 80 Gigs, I leave that checked. Also for those of you that do check uploaders - how often do you get no results, because i never get any.

Bottom line who cares if people &#39;leech&#39; it is not that bad on here in truth, I mean anyone ever used filetopia, that is leeching (3000 users, 8 gigs shared)

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by theprisoner@25 June 2003 - 03:58
Yea, thats the way i normally get rid of leechers but the problem is sometimes they block you from seeing their files for "privacy reasons" :unsure: . Anyway around that?
First of All, If they are blocking their files because of privacy reasons too bad, this is a filesharing program, seems there is alot of people who don&#39;t get the meaning of that. I look at it like this, If they are going to have the nerve to get on Kazaa, for example, then hid their files for (privacy reasons) because they are concerned about people seeing what they have, they really have no business on a filesharing program then in the first place, right??????


Come On People, This is a FILESHARING PROGRAM

IF YOU HAVE NO FILES TO SHARE, THEN YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE CANCELLED.

[XStacy]

Damn, I was trying to stay away from posting in the thread, but damn noobies. Sh*t.



First of All, If they are blocking their files because of privacy reasons too bad, this is a filesharing program, seems there is alot of people who don&#39;t get the meaning of that.


Too Bad, there seems to be one person who dosen&#39;t understand that hiding your files with the privacy patch dosen&#39;t mean you arn&#39;t sharing your files.



Come On People, This is a FILESHARING PROGRAM


...and that is exactly what people using the privacy patch are doing, SHARING FILES.



IF YOU HAVE NO FILES TO SHARE, THEN YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE CANCELLED.


Might as well add that to your sig. So you won&#39;t have to be typing that over and over again. :rolleyes:

[RealitY]

Originally posted by scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 05:35
First of All, If they are blocking their files because of privacy reasons too bad, this is a filesharing program, seems there is alot of people who don&#39;t get the meaning of that. I look at it like this, If they are going to have the nerve to get on Kazaa, for example, then hid their files for (privacy reasons) because they are concerned about people seeing what they have, they really have no business on a filesharing program then in the first place, right??????
Retard, I hope you get a cancellation letter from your ISP. That&#39;s why I use the privacy patch because I don&#39;t want to get one, and if I do you won&#39;t be able download from me, now will you.

So STFU already and get a life or continue your "cancelling crusade" untill your mother tells you to shut that f**king computer off and go to bed.

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 01:19
This is for all of you who are not sharing any files on kazaa, and claim to be a k-lite master, etc. I&#39;m sure you have all heard from them, they all try to upload from you, but in return they are not actually sharing any files.
Just a note to you, You will be cancelled if you try to upload from me, and I also
suggest that everyone checks the people who are uploading from you, check to see
if they have files to share, If not, cancel them, it&#39;s that simple.
Although I admire your sense of right and wrong, you really are wasting your time.

Pretty soon you&#39;re going to get bored of this.

If the guy you are cancelling is using an automatic "find more sources" tool, he will automatically reconnect to you every 5 seconds or so, what are you going to do then?

You could use your firewall to block his IP address, but then what if he has a dynamic IP address, then tomorrow he will come along again with a new IP address and start uploading from you again..


So what do you do? eventually, you will have a huge amount of IP addresses you refuse to share with, but what about the hoards innocent kazaa users who may have found themselves using those IP addresses, want to upload from you, but can&#39;t, because you&#39;ve tried to block previous users of their IP&#39;s?

Now who&#39;s not sharing, now who&#39;s a leecher... ;)


It&#39;s not worth the trouble my friend, you might as well just live with the fact that not all people share...

[junkyardking]

Originally posted by scorpio67+25 June 2003 - 02:48--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scorpio67 &#064; 25 June 2003 - 02:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by jay973@25 June 2003 - 02:28
<!--QuoteBegin-scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 03:20
To me, if a person turns off the ability to share, they are not sharing,

They are not turning off the ability to share.If you search for a file that they have then their file will be displayed and available for download.The privacy thing just turns off the ability to search ALL their files at once.This has benefits in circumstances such as officials searching your shared folders and has no impact on normal users who search for files amongst the general population.I.E using the search function to search EVERYBODYS files for a specific file that they want.
Hope this is now clearer.
I do a search on the user, and if it turns out they have no files, they will not show up then they are cancelled, I hope this is clearer

NO FILES TO SHARE, NO UPLOAD.
YOU WILL BE CANCELLED. [/b][/quote]
So do you mean that you sit at the computer all day cutting people off who you think are not sharing? :lol: instead of a life?

I think you are in denail here the privacy option does not stop sharing it only stops people listing the files they have, you can STILL find those thought general searching or even better using verefieds, THE OPTION WAS PUT THERE TO STOP GROUPS LIKE RIAA AND IT&#39;S MOVIE EQUIEIVENT FROM LISTING PEOPLES FILES AND PUTING THAT AGAIST YOUR NAME FOR WHICH YOU CAN GET INTO MAJOR TROUBLE, IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A DREAMLAND FINE, FOR PEOPLE WITH MORE INSIGHT WE CHOOSE TO USE THE PRIVACY OPTION :D :D :D :D

[DVD PIRATE]

Originally posted by scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 01:19
This is for all of you who are not sharing any files on kazaa, and claim to be a k-lite master, etc. I&#39;m sure you have all heard from them, they all try to upload from you, but in return they are not actually sharing any files.
Just a note to you, You will be cancelled if you try to upload from me, and I also
suggest that everyone checks the people who are uploading from you, check to see
if they have files to share, If not, cancel them, it&#39;s that simple.
OMFG&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; wot a complete moron...lol.thisguy needs to get out and find himselfa life&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;he obviously has nothing better to do if all he does is sit at his comp right clicking an cancelling up loads.wot a fool... Nominee for fagg of the year is won by you hands down moron...lol <_< <_< <_< <_<

[loz]

-_- :sleeping:


Do what you want, stop posting the same thing over & over again, maybe someone should make a subworld about how I&#39;m not sharing to leechers... really nobody cares.

[DasScoot]

I swear, ISPs need to do a stupid check before they let people connect to the internet.

[velcrom]

This has got to be a wind up - no one can be that stupid.

Can they ? :o

[Fatal Error]

Originally posted by scorpio67+24 June 2003 - 21:25--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scorpio67 &#064; 24 June 2003 - 21:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-jay973@25 June 2003 - 01:21
How would you know if they have the privacy patch installed??
:( Nobody should cancel,its not in the spirit of these things.
It&#39;s not exactlly in the spirit to be on Kazaa and have no files to share either, that is what this program is all about right. think about it, if no one has any files to share, then It really wouldn&#39;t be considered a p2p program right.???
And I will cancel anyone who does not have any files to share, it&#39;s that simple.
Pretty self explanitory if you ask me.


HAVE FILES TO SHARE OR BE CANCELLED.[/b][/quote]
I thought this explanation was pretty "self expanatory" :huh:

Anybody that displays their media file list these days, with everything thats going on today with filesharing in my opinion,is taking a very unreasonable and unnecessary risk. I guess that I&#39;ll be doing without your files..thanks anyway ;)

btw: I have better things to do with my time than sitting at my computer taking wild guesses at who MAY or MAY NOT be sharing,since there is NO WAY to tell the difference. Since this has already been explained to you..I&#39;m "guessing" that maybe you have another agenda.

[Fatal Error]

Originally posted by velcrom@25 June 2003 - 09:38
This has got to be a wind up - no one can be that stupid.

Can they ?&nbsp; :o
I would really hate to think so. :o ;)

[Switeck]

Originally posted by REALITY@25 June 2003 - 01:52
Retard, I hope you get a cancellation letter from your ISP. That&#39;s why I use the privacy patch because I don&#39;t want to get one, and if I do you won&#39;t be able download from me, now will you.
It&#39;s worth mentioning that if the copyright cops are looking for filenames using any method OTHER than listing your files the privacy patch will offer NO protection at all.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by Switeck@25 June 2003 - 17:32
It&#39;s worth mentioning that if the copyright cops are looking for filenames using any method OTHER than listing your files the privacy patch will offer NO protection at all.
True.

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by REALITY+25 June 2003 - 06:52--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 25 June 2003 - 06:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 05:35
First of All, If they are blocking their files because of privacy reasons too bad, this is a filesharing program, seems there is alot of people who don&#39;t get the meaning of that. I look at it like this, If they are going to have the nerve to get on Kazaa, for example, then hid their files for (privacy reasons) because they are concerned about people seeing what they have, they really have no business on a filesharing program then in the first place, right??????
Retard, I hope you get a cancellation letter from your ISP. That&#39;s why I use the privacy patch because I don&#39;t want to get one, and if I do you won&#39;t be able download from me, now will you.

So STFU already and get a life or continue your "cancelling crusade" untill your mother tells you to shut that f**king computer off and go to bed. [/b][/quote]
You sound like you are really intelligent???????

furthermore, why would I get a cancellation letter from my isp??????

I made the post because of people who try to upload from me, and in return, if I try to get something from them, they don&#39;t have anything to offer, for what ever reason, they either hide what they are sharing, which makes no sense to me anyway, face it, if you don&#39;t want to share files, then why in the hell get on a filesharing program in the first place???

All I am saying is, that if at anytime, I notice someone who is trying to upload from me and I want to check that user to see if they have any files to share, and it turns out that they don&#39;t, I will cancel them it&#39;s that simple, they are wanting to get something that I have without wanting to give anything in return?????

It&#39;s not like they couldn&#39;t upload from someone else anyway, there are over 4 million people on Kazaa, maybe what I&#39;ll do is just send them to you since it doesn&#39;t seem to bother you. would you like that?????

[2nd gen noob]

Originally posted by scorpio67@25 June 2003 - 20:42
You sound like you are really intelligent???????

someone who is trying to upload from me
you know, it really annoys me when people use this forum to try and bellitle people, coming on and saying they&#39;re stupid (unless of course, i&#39;m the one making the accusations :P )

if people decide to use the privacy patch, it&#39;s up to them

if you decide to cut people off, it&#39;s up to you

simple as that, stop the arguments.

p.s. to explain the second portion of my quote, people do not "upload from" you, they "download from" you, or you "upload to" them

please get the terminology correct

[Tyke]

You COULD get a cancellation notice, or rather a demand to cease the distribution of certain files, from your ISP, if an agent of the coyright owner notifies them of the media you are distributing.

when news such as this (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=46945) is read by some, they do worry. Some panic and quit sharing or quit using P2P altogether - which is the intended effect of such a news release.

Oh and it&#39;s worth noting that Kazaalite software of any source is not 100% perfect - mainly because of the fast track protocol itself. Sometimes the search more from this user does not return results, until a "2nd pass" search. Meanwhile, some who have no idea of the way things work shout and swear "F*** leeching B*****" and cut off a user sharing plenty of good stuff.

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by I.am@25 June 2003 - 05:52
Yeah why to start two topics on the same concept. You still don&#39;t get the idea of privacy patch do you. And on your previous post Satan and Jay973 explained it well. I don&#39;t know why you are still whining about the whole thing. I agree one should really share and thats how the whole kazaa concept is based on. But for a second stop and try to understand what exactly is being said about the Privacy patch.
First of All, the second post was a misprint, I hit the post new topic once to many times, sorry, I guess you have never in you life time made any mistakes.????


and as far as the whole privacy patch thing goes, If it is privacy that you are asking for, why are you on Kazaa, this is a filesharing program, right?????

I think that when people get on Kazaa, they have a my shared folder, if they don&#39;t want people to see all the files they have on their computer, don&#39;t put it in the my shared folder then.


If people try to upload from me and have no files to share, they are considered to be a leech, and they will be cancelled.

I only cancel those certain few who try to upload from me, and have no files to share in return, I have that right, and so does everyone else who don&#39;t want a bunch of leeches uploading from them.

[Guillaume]

I&#39;ve been reading your two topics ( yes, even the one you didn&#39;t really want to make... the one I&#39;m replying to, actually ) and I have the strange feeling that you don&#39;t even read the replies that people gave you and keep repeating over and over again the stuff you said in your first post... Now, do as you please about those you ( wrongly ) consider to be leeches but please stop bragging about it, will you?



As for the other members of the board, please let this thread die out, that&#39;ll save us all precious time...

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by Gurahl@25 June 2003 - 20:01
I&#39;ve been reading your two topics ( yes, even the one you didn&#39;t really want to make... the one I&#39;m replying to, actually ) and I have the strange feeling that you don&#39;t even read the replies that people gave you and keep repeating over and over again the stuff you said in your first post... Now, do as you please about those you ( wrongly ) consider to be leeches but please stop bragging about it, will you?



As for the other members of the board, please let this thread die out, that&#39;ll save us all precious time...
You have the choice not to read my post either, or did that not occur to you
or the other no it alls of the board.

goodbye

You can&#39;t try to make sense with people who already know everything anyway&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :o

[Damnatory]

The fact of the matter is, The hide file patch only keeps people from searching specifically for files on your computer.
This *does not* mean that those files wont show up as sources for download. It is only another security measure to protect yourself from the "media cops." And cutting people off for doing so is is denying them the same thing your doing. (Just your being an idiot, by not trying to cover your ass alittle. ;) )

[Fatal Error]

You can&#39;t try to make sense with people who already know everything anyway&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

I agree.. I read your comments. (in both threads)

Now if a MOD would be so kind to close the topic.. ;)

[hond96]

So what does everyone thing of the lastest news that the music lables are going to go after individual users of illegal downloads

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by Damnatory@25 June 2003 - 21:56
The fact of the matter is, The hide file patch only keeps people from searching specifically for files on your computer.
This *does not* mean that those files wont show up as sources for download. It is only another security measure to protect yourself from the "media cops." And cutting people off for doing so is is denying them the same thing your doing. (Just your being an idiot, by not trying to cover your ass alittle. ;) )
Seems to me you&#39;re the ass :P

[scorpio67]

Originally posted by hond96@26 June 2003 - 01:53
So what does everyone thing of&nbsp; the lastest news that the music lables are going to go after individual users of illegal downloads
They are only going after people who have numerous files on their computers,
but mainly they want people to be paranoid. :unsure:

[DVD PIRATE]

WTF? This topic still open? moderators do the rigt thing and shut this fukn noobie down pleeze. :lol:

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by scorpio67+26 June 2003 - 18:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scorpio67 &#064; 26 June 2003 - 18:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Damnatory@25 June 2003 - 21:56
The fact of the matter is, The hide file patch only keeps people from searching specifically for files on your computer.
This *does not* mean that those files wont show up as sources for download. It is only another security measure to protect yourself from the "media cops." And cutting people off for doing so is is denying them the same thing your doing. (Just your being an idiot, by not trying to cover your ass alittle. ;) )
Seems to me you&#39;re the ass :P [/b][/quote]
No, you are being an ass.

I share a lot of files, some of them VERY popular and in demand, and my upload slots are always full.

I also use the Privacy Patch.

The people i download off cannot see what im sharing....the people uploading from me, cant see what else im sharing.

If they ask for a file i have, i will be a source...but they dont get a full list of files off me at ANY time.

The ONLY people that know everything that i have in my shared folder, are those that log into my ftp....and i know all these people and trust them.

Thats the ONLY reason they get access.


So, in your little mind, it OK for YOU to upload off me...but i will be cut for uploading off you. That makes YOU the leech, not me.


Anyone that is willing to sit at their traffic window cutting leech&#39;s (especially as there is NO WAY to tell if someone is leeching or not) really needs to get out more.


BTW:

And this is a personal opinion....how many question marks does it take for you to ask a question?

Or indeed, exclamation marks for a statement?

It really is a gross violation of net etiquite, almost as bad as an addiction to Capital letters. :rolleyes:

[Damnatory]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@26 June 2003 - 20:36
So, in your little mind, it OK for YOU to upload off me...but i will be cut for uploading off you. That makes YOU the leech, not me.
Exactly.

Thanks Rat Faced&#33; :beerchug:

[Guillaume]

Time to close that, ain&#39;t it, RF?