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Schmiggy_JK23
06-25-2003, 09:59 PM
Heres the story... (http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1026_3-1021005.html?type=pt&part=msnbc&tag=alert&form=feed&subj=cnetnews)


Don't make the U.S. attorney general angry--you wouldn't like him when he's angry.

A New Jersey man learned that the hard way Wednesday, and faces up to three years in prison and $250,000 in fine after pleading guilty to distributing a pirated copy of "The Hulk," the tale of wayward scientist who turns into a machinery-smashing monster whenever he gets mad.

Kerry Gonzalez of Hamilton, N.J., pled guilty to felony copyright infringement charges in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, according to a statement from the U.S. Attorney's office.


what u guys think?

Damnatory
06-25-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@25 June 2003 - 22:59
what u guys think?
I think he's an idiot for pleading guilty....

Schmiggy_JK23
06-25-2003, 10:12 PM
um... obviously they tracked via IP... and thus connected the dots there to advertising agency where he got it from.

pleading innocence would probably be pretty difficut

Fatal Error
06-26-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@25 June 2003 - 18:12
um... obviously they tracked via IP... and thus connected the dots there to advertising agency where he got it from.

pleading innocence would probably be pretty difficut
You're probably right.. but, I think he could of negotiated a better deal. :huh: I dont think posting a "pre-release" was the smartest thing he could of done either..you know that they're gonna be looking for that,especially after what happened with Matrix Reloaded.

I'm guessing that he was'nt using any kind of "protection" (distributing an "unsafe" file is a felony under the health codes of many states lol) and so much for the "copy-protection",guess that went right out the window.. I would think that anyone that has enough savvy to crack the code, would take better care to cover their ass ?

Something just doesnt feel right here though.. why would they be looking for a file that was supposedly "copy-protected"? maybe this guy was "set-up"?

I'm sure we're all gonna hear about the results of this case.

Edit:spelling

iMartin
06-26-2003, 12:41 AM
:lol: and it was on verifieddownloads.com too :lol: 2 weeks before it was even on theaters :lol:

vijaycanand
06-26-2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Fatal Error+26 June 2003 - 00:34--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fatal Error @ 26 June 2003 - 00:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Schmiggy_JK23@25 June 2003 - 18:12
um... obviously they tracked via IP... and thus connected the dots there to advertising agency where he got it from.

pleading innocence would probably be pretty difficut
You&#39;re probably right.. but, I think he could of negotiated a better deal. :huh: I dont think posting a "pre-release" was the smartest thing he could of done either..you know that they&#39;re gonna be looking for that,especially after what happened with Matrix Reloaded.

I&#39;m guessing that he was&#39;nt using any kind of "protection" (distributing an "unsafe" file is a felony under the health codes of many states lol) and so much for the "copy-protection",guess that went right out the window.. I would think that anyone that has enough savvy to crack the code, would take better care to cover their ass ?

Something just doesnt feel right here though.. why would they be looking for a file that was supposedly "copy-protected"? maybe this guy was "set-up"?

I&#39;m sure we&#39;re all gonna hear about the results of this case.

Edit:spelling [/b][/quote]
hey&#33;&#33;
What has happened with Matrix Reloaded?

iMartin
06-26-2003, 01:13 AM
the matrix reloaded was up on the internet after it was released.

Fatal Error
06-26-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by [-Crono-
,25 June 2003 - 21:13]the matrix reloaded was up on the internet after it was released.
I had a copy of it before it was released..

Shoebird
06-26-2003, 02:27 AM
Actually, the guy had an advance copy of the movie, supposedly an exact copy of the theatre version (no "FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION"). The disc it came from had a digital signature that called its mommy and daddy at Universal when the guy ripped it. At least that&#39;s what I heard from the news.

Also heard that the RIAA and friends are checking on people with large amounts of mp3s being shared, starting tomorrow. They sound like they&#39;re trying to get serious now, but we shall see.

MetroStars
06-26-2003, 06:21 PM
The Guy should plead Insanity...

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/Mathis%20Avatar%20--%201.jpg

guitar814
06-26-2003, 07:27 PM
NEVER plead guilty&#33; For example, there was a propaganda push that it is better to be honest with a cop if pulled over for a DUI. If you ever plead guilt for a beer or anything you lose your right to a deal or reduced sentence.

Jibbler
06-26-2003, 09:58 PM
This guy was setup by Universal. Old school rippers know that the "counters" in screener/pre-release copies need to be blacked out for security reasons. The numbers are put there to identify the source. However in this case, the numbers had nothing to do with it. The counter was put in a different part of the screen as to identify each copy. So in this case, blacking out the numbers did nothing for the purposes of security.

Basically, the counter in the bottom right corner, went to one agency. The counter in the top right corner, went to another. A professional agency working in the industry isn&#39;t going to let their reputation be harmed by a situation like this. They cooperated as many places will do.

In addition, I believe that SMF, the group who released this rip, is actually a collection of gov&#39;t narcs, MPAA exclusives, etc. It didn&#39;t matter if he plead guilty or not, he was caught dead to rights. :huh: