Too Many Avi's Not Enough Mpg's

[How_Bazaa]

Most of the movies on Kazaa are normally in AVI format, I find MPG's better. That way i can burn straight onto a cd-r/s (VCD format using NERO)

It takes so long for Nero to convert the AVI files... :blink:

[2nd gen noob]

Originally posted by How_Bazaa@3 July 2003 - 11:49
Most of the movies on Kazaa are normally in AVI format, I find MPG's better. That way i can burn straight onto a cd-r/s (VCD format using NERO)

It takes so long for Nero to convert the AVI files... :blink:
the time taken to encode depends on your spec.
in some cases, it takes less time to download an avi and re-encode it than it does to download an mpeg, just because it takes either so long to download the mpeg or so little time to re-encode

[LINDOREZ]

Yeah, but thats because the avi files are usually in divx format (or other compression formats) and it does take ages to convert.

Thats why you get such good quality for a small size.

If you want to make a VCD then just download the bin and cues. :D

[2nd gen noob]

Originally posted by LINDOREZ@3 July 2003 - 11:52
Yeah, but thats because the avi files are usually in divx format (or other compression formats) and it does take ages to convert.

Thats why you get such good quality for a small size.

If you want to make a VCD then just download the bin and cues. :D
it usually takes me between a third and a half of real time to convert form avi to mpeg, but it depends on the file and what else i'm doing with the comp.

it's totally dependent on the spec though, it just so happens it's much quicker for me to re-encode than to download double the data

[sxc_ant]

you should not use nero to encode your fillm use a independant encoder like TMPGEnc wot spec is ur compouter??

[LINDOREZ]

Originally posted by 2nd gen noob@3 July 2003 - 10:56
it's totally dependent on the spec though, it just so happens it's much quicker for me to re-encode than to download double the data
That is very true, i'm lucky to have a high spec PC and a high speed internet connection, but it saves me an hour to just download the two bins, plus it saves me the work of doing it as well. Your completly right though.

And sxc_ant i agree i would use TMPGenc, but its looks pretty complicated to a new user and nero is a lot easier to use. :D

[sxc_ant]

na if you get TMPGENc plus there is a wizard that does it for you honeslty it's worth looking at if u get any films in in letter box form you make them full screen!!!

[How_Bazaa]

My system is

AMD 1.1Ghz - 356Mb Ram - 20GB Harddrive

[sxc_ant]

mine is 1.3 ghz amd and 256 xp pro it shud take but 3 hours doing it at full screen

[jetje]

NOOOOOOOO, STOP MPEG.... SHARE AVI.

quality is much much better. In no time all dvd players will support avi to play.
No converting needed anymore!
Edit, there are a lot that does support it now already like the KISS dvd player it supports divx..


KEEP IT AVI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[freak]

Can I get a link to this kiss dvd player i keep hearing about?!

[well_butter_my_arse]

Yes enlighten on where this dvd player can be found cos im sic of converting stuff its sucha dam faff

[jetje]

was already a topic in here...! (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=37818) link included i thought

[loz]

Originally posted by LINDOREZ@3 July 2003 - 11:03
And sxc_ant i agree i would use TMPGenc, but its looks pretty complicated to a new user and nero is a lot easier to use. :D
:lol: Are you being serious? That is the easiest piece of software ever! :)

[caffeineaddict]

yes Jetje, avi rules, and it will always rule. It is like the best container ever. I think the only people who actually like mpeg is people who are impatient and want results right away (porn users mostly).. I mean, heck, I can wait for a film to be out in avi. Avi is simply the best format ever. End of discussion.

[Gre1]

I used to post all my movies in .mpg here but its to hard to get them spreaded so now they are all going to be on bittorrent (bytemonsoon). What makes u say .avi is the best they are not better than .mpg. If so, state how.

[awfullwaffle919]

The reason AVI is good is for watching it on your PC. And AVI's are always around 650MB for full movies. Then when you go to convert an AVI to an MPEG (like I did with Waynes World) the MPEG will be too big (my result MPEG was 920MB)

So if you dont mind PC watching, AVI's good.

Now I gotta figure out how to get 920MB onto an 80 minute CDR :(

[Gre1]

Maybe thats with your all my mpegs are under 800 mb whatever i encode will be under 800 mb with dvd quality

[yNd aznbnet]

I agree with the thread creater, MPG (VCD,SVCD) RULES!! This is only a problem with movies though, as they are usually always .avi. The files I specialize in though are MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) Pride FC, UFC, etc. are all in .MPG format.

[jetje]

No even displayed on television avi is better. VCD are almost always a bit of color (blue!) also not as sharp as avi files. It has imo to do with the decoding..!

[yNd aznbnet]

I only use SVCD for movies. Not enough DVD players are mpeg4 (divx) compatible. Until the day they are, it's all about MPEG for me.

[Dapadipz]

well i always reencode neway. so avi is better cuz i make xVCD's for my dvd player so it fits on one 700 CD-R most of the time. saves me changing discs half way thru the movie and i dnt really notice much quality loss wen watchin on tv. xcept sumtimes wen i encode with XviD it does tend to stutter on PC

[4play]

avi's are alot better.
the compression they use is second to none at the moment and the fact most people can only play them on their pc means you get plenty of sources on kazaa since they are not just burned to cd then deleted off your pc.

[Gre1]

Quote: (jetje) not as sharp as avi files.

I just said all my .mpg are dvd quality some look way better than the .avi

[4play]

I just said all my .mpg are dvd quality some look way better than the .avi

make a avi that is the same size as your mpeg then you can compair quality ;)

i wonder what would look better. :rolleyes:

[freak]

make a avi that is the same size as your mpeg then you can compair quality 

i wonder what would look better.

lol :lol:

I checked out that link I think I may be getting one. Any one have any links to a reputable seller and one that is in US dollors?! Also wanted to ask. jetje do you think the avi's or mpgs look better on the tv or are they about the same?

[juderobs]

Keep the avi's coming much better :D

[Schmiggy_JK23]

Jetje color of a mpg/vcd has nothing to do with a comparison between avi, that is totally based on the source material.

And to the fact that avi is better... why is that the top release groups release mpgs/vcds instead of avi/divx encodes... gee i wonder... because overall the quality is better... with divx/xvid, sure it looks fine, but you also compress, and loose frames, encoding in that format...

mpgs are easier for transfer to to vcd, and thus easier to be played on dvd players. Bigger, yes, for the most part, but its also the full movie, with out compression, or data loss..

[slammy_dunken]

It is sort of a problem to encode avi's to mpegs, but I find that avi's are a lot better. The quality in the avi is great. Plus avi's can be compressed, so that they can keep their quality, but fit into a smaller size. If people care about playing their files on their TV, but don't want to lose quality while converting the files, why don't they just get a DVD burner? Though I have seen some high quality mpegs, those files were encoded by release groups, which make their files better in quality then somethign done by a person. And don't say that release groups release most of their files in avi. Many release groups release their things in mpeg also, like the people releasing screeners (ex. Centropy), or groups releasing music videos (ex. Videopimp), or some groups releasign TV episodes (ex. FTV).

[Gre1]

Go to bytemonsoon I uploaded cradle 2 the grave .mpg on there the other day now it looks just like a dvd, no quality loss, lost frames or all that other shit.

[ck-uk]

Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@4 July 2003 - 01:58
Jetje color of a mpg/vcd has nothing to do with a comparison between avi, that is totally based on the source material.

And to the fact that avi is better... why is that the top release groups release mpgs/vcds instead of avi/divx encodes... gee i wonder... because overall the quality is better... with divx/xvid, sure it looks fine, but you also compress, and loose frames, encoding in that format...

mpgs are easier for transfer to to vcd, and thus easier to be played on dvd players. Bigger, yes, for the most part, but its also the full movie, with out compression, or data loss..
Schmiggy_JK23,surprisin comin from someone like u with experience and knowledge of internet/movies.These groups concerns has nothing to do with quality there no1 prioity is bootleg in' and the average person who buy a bootleg think he can only play mpegs at home and even there slowly dyin out with dvd burners,i saw some guy the other day sellin bootleg cams not in mpg but converted on to dvd i know if i had the choice of every new release between a scr/rip and a cent/svcd i would choose avi and burn to dvd until the mpeg4 becomes standard on dvd players

[3RA1N1AC]

mpeg 1 is better than mpeg 4 (AVI)?? you've got to be kidding.

and for people who think you have to watch AVI on your computer monitor, and that it's really worth wasting hours and hours converting to low resolution VCDs with washed out colors... buy a tv-out vga card for fifty bucks (u.s. dollars), problem solved.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@3 July 2003 - 16:58
Bigger, yes, for the most part, but its also the full movie, with out compression, or data loss..
uh... mpeg 1 is a form of compression. and it's an outdated, inefficient form of compression.

and if anyone has any confusion about VCDs and SVCDs, SVCDs are mpeg 2 (like DVDs)-- not mpeg 1. so SVCD is no proof that mpeg 1 is better than anything.

[j4y3m]

why dont people zip/rar the avis to make them even smaller :unsure: ?

[3RA1N1AC]

zipping does not compress all files. AVI and mp3 are already compressed, so a lot of times zipping has very little effect on the file size.

[Schmiggy_JK23]

Yes, I was refering to mpeg2, hence the fact of mentioning the latest ctp releases, all being svcd/mpeg2, not avi/divx.

[yNd aznbnet]

I said it once before, when it comes to movies in mpg format, it's all about MPEG-2.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by yNd aznbnet@5 July 2003 - 11:22
I said it once before, when it comes to movies in mpg format, it's all about MPEG-2.
well, at least i can't argue with that.

[4play]

@Schmiggy_JK23 mpeg2 files are also compressed ;)

mpeg3 is meant to be almost no compression and is tagged as the standard for hdtv but no one is using it yet.