Should Non-mods Be Able To......

[balamm]

alright, here's your chance.

http://www.wpl.lib.oh.us/images/service-poll.gif

[MediaSlayer]

Balamm for president!

[RPerry]

A vote of "No" from me, I think the Mods have enough difficulties chasing spam, and the ability for everyone to add polls will just add to it

[jubei_yagyu]

no...90% of the polls would be garbage
like what should i have for supper? should i kill my self?

[Adster]

No for many reasons people will reply to it for nothing sometimes jsut to reply it will turn into spam

we don't need stupid Polls like what your favourite flaver Carmal or Chocklate".

also it will lead to flame wars like X BOX v PS2 ect

[MediaSlayer]

also it will lead to flame wars
uhhh.....don't we have those already? :P :P :P :P :P

[I.am]

Nah thats not a good idea to allow non-mod to start polls. Only more absurd things to show up on this forum! I think we have those enough :)

[MediaSlayer]

Only more absurd things to show up on this forum!
That's true. But have you seen the ketchup thread? :lol:
Seriously if people could start unlimited polls they would abuse it. But if we were allowed to start them but with restrictions, I think it could work. For instance, letting people start them only once a week or something.

[thewizeard]

I voted for the right to start a poll. In my opinion a member should only be able to start a poll once a month(for example) Also after a certain time it should close. (a week?)

[tite-wad]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@18 July 2003 - 00:27
... But if we were allowed to start them but with restrictions ...
Hmmmm.....

How 'bout we restrict it so that the poll can only be started after you request it from a mod??? http://members.roadfly.com/tite-wad/idea.gif




:o Oh.....




Nevermind then. :P

[MagicNakor]

Nope. I could go on as to why, but it's fairly obvious. ;)

:ninja:

[thewizeard]

Of course one should only be allowed to vote once. I looked to see how many votes had been cast and noticed I could vote again! I did not of course.

Balamm there is something wrong with the poll.

[hypoluxa3k]

Originally posted by jubei_yagyu@18 July 2003 - 04:57
no...90% of the polls would be garbage
like what should i have for supper? should i kill my self?
what's wrong with that?
this is the lounge after all!

[tite-wad]

Originally posted by nigel123@18 July 2003 - 01:43
I looked to see how many votes had been cast and noticed I could vote again! I did not of course.
Are you certain that the first vote you cast was recorded?

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by nigel123@18 July 2003 - 06:50
I voted for the right to start a poll. In my opinion a member should only be able to start a poll once a month(for example) Also after a certain time it should close. (a week?)
Not possible with the board software.

[thewizeard]

That's a good point, tite-wad. These days you can't be sure of anything. I have had a lot of trouble reaching the forum today. After posting everything seems to freeze up. If I go to look at another post I get a message that it can't find the page I'm looking for. So the answer is, "Who knows".

In any case I don't believe they will ever allow the members to start their own polls.

[balamm]

Well, with the board screwing up so bad, maybe it forgot your vote ?
It looks ok here but the server has been kicking me all night with "database not found" errors and "too many connections" with only 150 or so logged in.

[bluedevil]

i voted no....i think there is gonna be more flaming then :(

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Lamsey+18 July 2003 - 08:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 18 July 2003 - 08:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@18 July 2003 - 06:50
I voted for the right to start a poll. In my opinion a member should only be able to start a poll once a month(for example) Also after a certain time it should close.&nbsp; &nbsp; (a week?)
Not possible with the board software. [/b][/quote]
Hey Lamsey, welcome to the world of the 18+&#33;

What do you mean? It&#39;s not possible for members to start a poll? If that&#39;s what you mean then this poll is only theoretical and rather pointless.

[Lamsey]

No, I mean it&#39;s impossible to put limitations on the polls -


a member should only be able to start a poll once a month(for example) Also after a certain time it should close.------&#62; not possible.

[MediaSlayer]

well then what limitaions are left besides the ones that are there now?

[jetje]

Well i voted no, if you want to have a poll just ask a mod... If the poll request is normal (s)he will grant it.. :)

[[B][O][T]]

I voted NO, there will be so many useless polls if members are allowed to start polls.
If You have an idea of a poll just ask a moderator.

BOT

[MediaSlayer]

Normal...hmmm......jetje the ketchup related threads were somewhat strange to me. What is normal? Can you give me a definition because I think some people might be hesitant to bother a mod about a poll and they don&#39;t even know what will be accepted. What is normal? I guess its "something that won&#39;t offend" but I could be wrong.

[thewizeard]

Jetje, the moderators already have the "right" to start a poll. Perhaps it would be better if only the "normal" members vote in this poll.

If the yes votes exceed the no votes will there be a change?

[tite-wad]

the ketchup related threads were somewhat strange to me

I think the "ketchup polls" were abberations - occasionally mods need to have some fun too. :D

However, IMO we&#39;d be seeing that sort of thing on a regular basis if anyone who wanted to start a poll was allowed to.

[jetje]

Well 1st of all i&#39;m just a member like all of you, only thing i edit more into the board as you all is the fact i sometimes keep running around the board cleaning up.
And blow some forrest fires out.. Really mods are no more no less then ordinary members... ;) So why can&#39;t we participate in these board issues?

Well the Ketchup, i can imagine someone that missed it at that time don&#39;t know what it&#39;s all about, same goes if we start talking &#39;bout TRX wars etc.... :D

About if the poll is succesfull, do we implant it... ??
Well think if the majority is in favor we&#39;ll discuss it with admins and mods.. ofcourse take the outcome of the poll with us in that debate, in the end it will be a decission made by VB. B)

[N£MO]

I voted no.

Enough problems with some members already without adding to it by allowing anyone to start polls.

[tite-wad]

Originally posted by jetje@18 July 2003 - 04:56
TRX wars etc....&nbsp; :D

:w00t: Please elaborate&#33;













j/k :P

[{I}{K}{E}]

NO&#33;

[thewizeard]

Ok Jetje I take you point, at the moment there are a few members thinking that polling would be abused. Why not try a trial period to see if that really happens. Oh and yes, could you change the colour of the poll envelopes from green, to a more pleasing tomato red?

[Illuminati]

So members should be given the option to make posts, eh?
How about we make all members mods?
Close down the forum and shoot the owner.
Would THAT please you? :P

Seriously though - Some members are already proving it a bad idea by abusing posts already.

If members cannot be sensible with their posts in general, then polls are going to be abused just as much if not more.

Until such posts are ceased, I am fully against members being able to post polls?

What was wrong with asking mods to do polls in the first place? :P

[MediaSlayer]

Jetje just for the record I would like to say I knew the ketchup thing was a lighthearted joke I only mentioned it because you said "normal" and I was wondering what qualified as normal. Some funny things came out of the ketchup threads btw does anyone have the "think-about-the-kittens" pic from the "present for bender" thread? It was posted by kRayzzed and the link is now broken.

[tite-wad]

Originally posted by nigel123+18 July 2003 - 05:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 &#064; 18 July 2003 - 05:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Ok Jetje I take you point, at the moment there are a few members thinking that polling would be abused. [/b]
Well, at the moment apparently about twice as many think it&#39;s a bad idea rather than good.

<!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@18 July 2003 - 05:16
Oh and yes, could you change the colour of the poll envelopes from green, to a more pleasing tomato red?[/quote]
I&#39;m sure you really wanted to say ketchup red didn&#39;t you. :P

[thewizeard]

It was a risk that I didn&#39;t want to take, but now you mention it, yes.

[tite-wad]

I thought I smelled a faint hint of tomato and vinegar on your breath. :devil:

[Bender]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer@18 July 2003 - 12:23
btw does anyone have the "think-about-the-kittens" pic from the "present for bender" thread?&nbsp; It was posted by kRayzzed and the link is now broken.
Hey, that pic is mine&#33; :angry:
I had it as my signature for months (well, weeks) and gained great popularity with it. :lol:




No to members starting polls; the "bad" members would spoil it for the good ones.
If you want a poll, please PM a Mod or request it in a post, like Ron did with the ketchup poll. :)

[MediaSlayer]

bender just post it I won&#39;t use it on this forum&#33; duh&#33; I went to ianai.net/jokes and all i saw was an einstein riddle :lol:

[MagicNakor]

:rolleyes: I can&#39;t believe that ketchup issue is still around. It was stupid then, and it&#39;s stupid now. ;)

:ninja:

[scribblec]

only in lounge shall we be able to strat polls

[Rat Faced]

Nope, there is nothing stopping anyone PMing a Mod.

If its too easy, then every other thread will be a poll.

[Spindulik]

Allowing Non-Mods to make polls will bring more pointless spam onto the board.

There should be a Poll forum seperate from all of the other forums, if everyone is so desperate for a poll.

[Ron]

Just pick your MOD wisely.
Some MODs tend to ignore reality, and manipulate polls the Florida way....... <_<

[scribblec]

some mods r cool u kno who u r ;)

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by Ron@20 July 2003 - 15:59
Just pick your MOD wisely.
Some MODs tend to ignore reality, and manipulate polls the Florida way....... <_<
Methinks you&#39;re a bit pissed the polls went neither your way or the highway :D

I trust the mods to be impartial in everything they do, including this matter of the ketchup debate :P (Yes, I&#39;m in the KLLF&#39;s payroll :devil:)

[Ron]

Not my way?
You might want to take another look at it then.
The KLLF was CRUSHED&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
NOBODY with an IQ over 25 wants ketchup on their pasta.
But of course the KLLF tend to deny that fact, and run things the "commie" way. :P

[Illuminati]

Dear, naive Ron. Tell me, do you think you can claim the KLLF crushed when you haven&#39;t captured the ringleaders? And then put them in a crusher? :P


But of course the KLLF tend to deny that fact, and run things the "commie" way

Take a look around Ron - P2P is pretty much communism :D Not Russian communism, but still communism (One thing I don&#39;t get - Why do Americans always associate communism with Russia? :huh:)

God bless Karl Marx :D

[Rocktron]

I voted NO,

Because there will be a rage a Poll starting Spammers, that will create a Poll about anything that pop into their minds.

Please don&#39;t enable this..

Rocktron

[Ron]

Spammers have minds??? :blink:

[Skillian]

Well I voted yes. There&#39;s enough crap on this forum (the lounge) already, making polls won&#39;t make any difference.

What&#39;s the difference between "the official i&#39;m going to bed now thread" and a poll about the advantages of Burger King about McDonald&#39;s? At least the poll would be slightly more interesting.

I can&#39;t believe everyone voted NO, so I guess it&#39;s a moot point now anyway. :( If it was ever going to be done, it would have been done months ago.

[stonecold1203]

I voted NO


I don&#39;t want to see 287662894768928962897628 polls :



Am i cool?

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Yes
Yes
Yes

[geitje3]

I think it is okay but after round 300 posts you may start a poll that is cool&#33;

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by geitje3@23 July 2003 - 12:58
I think it is okay but after round 300 posts you may start a poll that is cool&#33;
The current Invision Power Board build won&#39;t allow poll rights to be automatically added after reaching a number of posts.

The only way around it would be for members, upon reaching a number of posts, to be moved into another user group which had poll creation rights - And considering that it&#39;d have to be manual, the hassle would be too much.

Sorry - Can&#39;t be done that way :(

[Bender]

Originally posted by geitje3@23 July 2003 - 13:58
I think it is okay but after round 300 posts you may start a poll that is cool&#33;
The board software doesn&#39;t allow that - it&#39;s everybody or nobody. ;)
The problem with the &#39;everybody&#39; option is that the board would be spammed with useless polls (in the past it was possible, but the Admins had to disable the option).




Now tell me geitje, what poll would you like to see? :D
You can send me a PM (Personal Message) or post it here (not promissing anything though).

[thewizeard]

@ Illuminanti,

Not a bad idea though - for senior members only.

[vivitron 15]

it is possible to automatically "promote" people to a different user group after a certain number of posts using the software, so that is actually a fairly good idea.

...and i voted Yes, but i think it should only be in the lounge which is full of crap anyway. if people post rubbish polls, then people will ignore them, and theyll disappear into ovlivion, like the people who post rubbish threads now...the only difference is that these threads will have a ticky box at the top.

[geitje3]

My opinion is changed now i think maybe... :ph34r:

[tite-wad]

Originally posted by nigel123@23 July 2003 - 07:18
Not a bad idea though - for senior members only.
:huh: How would you suggest determining seniority nigel?

Would it be based on join date, or post count?

Neither of those are very meaningful. <_<

[Livy]

yes, but only in the lounge,
also if its possible only after a certain ammount of posts aswell, so newbies learn the rules before we get millions of polls.

[thewizeard]

Well you could add up all the posts and then subtract the posts made in the lounge, calculate the square root, double it, add the age of the member, divide by 3, Go to your logarithm table with this number, note the first number that you started with, go to your logarithm table, check this number out, add these numbers together, go to your antilogarithm table, write this number down then do the same for each member. It would be quite simple really.

@edit: exclude all bolognese lovers....

[crazy_billy_bats]

@nigel123 : :lol: :lol: is all i can say

I voted yes. Hope i contributed to more silly-ass topics containing nonsense.

[tite-wad]

Damn&#33;

And me here without a slide-rule.

Bugger&#33; :angry:

[thewizeard]

Has everyone voted?

[bigboab]

If the final answer is yes

33.33% Polls by Tom, Dick and Harry each. :D

[Icey]

Yes

[Nightwolf]

Well, once again I voted YES on this subject. I see no reason why users can post a stupid, pointless topic in the Lounge, yet they can&#39;t start a stupid, pointless POLL. If it&#39;s as good enough topic, people will respond to it; if it&#39;s spam it&#39;ll be ignored and drop to the bottom of the topic list.

If the Mods are that worried about it causing trouble, then why not create a temporary &#39;Polls&#39; sub-forum under the Lounge just to try it out for a while.

[TheDave]

wow, look how close it is. i voted no because therell be too many crappy ones.

[titey]

Originally posted by Nightwolf@6 August 2003 - 17:16
if it&#39;s spam it&#39;ll be ignored and drop to the bottom of the topic list.
You mean like this one did till nigel decided to pull it back out of the garbage? :rolleyes:

[thewizeard]

There is a lot more where this one came from........

[J'Pol]

True - and they are all just as much shite as this one.

[thewizeard]

It&#39;s neck on neck, and if you take away the votes of the mod&#39;s who already have the right to start polls, then I think the yes vote would be probably be leading&#33;

[tzone]

ivoted yes we should be able to start polls a forum wouldnt be good without polls
it lets people give their opinion without replying

[chalkmongoose]

Originally posted by tzone@7 August 2003 - 00:46
ivoted yes we should be able to start polls a forum wouldnt be good without polls
it lets people give their opinion without replying
People seem to do that already...
Oh wait, without replying...
Trust me, not replying is generally the best idea.

But I&#39;d say yes, because 90% of the posts already are idiotic (75% of which I took part in drawing down to my personal hell) and allowing non-mods to use polls probably wouldn&#39;t change much.

It may also improve Scribblec&#39;s chances of visiting a small rectangular box, made of wood, and buried six feet under the ground.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by chalkmongoose@7 August 2003 - 02:49

But I&#39;d say yes, because 90% of the posts already are idiotic


90% of your posts&#33; :D

[thewizeard]

Uh? How does he sound like? I must have missed something

[chrish123171]

I voted maybe Because you just never know. You Know? :blink:

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by chrish123171@7 August 2003 - 00:37
I voted maybe Because you just never know. You Know? :blink:
Way to be decisive. <_<

[titey]

Originally posted by Nightwolf@7 August 2003 - 00:54
Way to be decisive. <_<
Way to be supportive. <_<

[Keikan]

WE should be able to do polls now since yes won, this is a democracy :blink:

[titey]

Originally posted by Keikan@7 August 2003 - 04:30
this is a democracy
Since when??? :blink:

[balamm]

Well, that was interesting. 166 votes and very close&#33;

It&#39;s about time this was killed though.

just to be fair, If someone can come up with a good one, I&#39;ll consider it. Pm it to me.