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WarrenBuffet
02-23-2008, 03:16 PM
I don't have scene axx, but i have a bunch of 0-day trackers with good pretimes and when a release hits, I grab it on the first tracker its on and put it on a fast server and up it to another tracker that doesn't have it yet?
Something Else
02-23-2008, 03:21 PM
No, because nobody wants you. :emo:
other staff will probably disagree with me on this lol
but imo, as long as you have a 1:1 ratio on the tracker you snatched it on, you can do what the hell you want with it.
once its uploaded, its not the scenes, nor the uploaders, and it was never the trackers to start with.
that goes for every torrent on every single tracker as well btw.
but im sure other tracker staff will strongly disagree with me :)
WarrenBuffet
02-23-2008, 03:23 PM
other staff will probably disagree with me on this lol
but imo, as long as you have a 1:1 ratio on the tracker you snatched it on, you can do what the hell you want with it.
once its uploaded, its not the scenes, nor the uploaders, and it was never the trackers to start with.
that goes for every torrent on every single tracker as well btw.
but im sure other tracker staff will strongly disagree with me :)
I think i'll go with stoi rather than benchez on this one :)
Something Else
02-23-2008, 03:24 PM
I agree with you stoi. As far as anything I upload anyway. Even if it's a pack that took time to put together or just one small file. I wouldn't share something like that if I minded it spreading.
I'd just burn my mate's a copy and send it in the post, not put things on the interwebs.
I think i'll go with stoi rather than benchez on this one :)
:kiss:
Di@monds
02-23-2008, 03:44 PM
I don't have scene axx, but i have a bunch of 0-day trackers with good pretimes and when a release hits, I grab it on the first tracker its on and put it on a fast server and up it to another tracker that doesn't have it yet?
you know how many ppl we have banned from stealing torrents, hnr and uploaded to another site and take all credits for himself? especially on the rare pack.
If u do that, we will finally catch you.
WarrenBuffet
02-23-2008, 03:45 PM
I don't have scene axx, but i have a bunch of 0-day trackers with good pretimes and when a release hits, I grab it on the first tracker its on and put it on a fast server and up it to another tracker that doesn't have it yet?
you know how many ppl we have banned from stealing torrents, hnr and uploaded to another site and take all credits for himself? especially on the rare pack.
If u do that, we will finally catch you.
NOT PACKS,
scene releases!!
Iy will take a few minutes for me to get 1:1 on a tracker i got it from with a nice connection then upload it to another one
Something Else
02-23-2008, 03:53 PM
Of course you can do that, but so can 10,000 other people. It's just a sad thing to do. Why are you such a special child. :unsure:
fatcat69
02-23-2008, 03:55 PM
you know how many ppl we have banned from stealing torrents, hnr and uploaded to another site and take all credits for himself? especially on the rare pack.
If u do that, we will finally catch you.
NOT PACKS,
scene releases!!
Iy will take a few minutes for me to get 1:1 on a tracker i got it from with a nice connection then upload it to another one
No because those of us who have xxx xxxx will beat you anyway. :lol:
But Stoi is right, you can do it that way...but if it is a reputable tracker...it most likely has people who can get it faster...if not...go for it.
Of course you can do that, but so can 10,000 other people. It's just a sad thing to do. Why are you such a special child. :unsure:
Benchi <3 :w00t:
what about a pack full of scene releases lol
what im trying to say is, its not hard to download an entire season of a tv show, or even all the matrix films, multi rar them all together, then upload them.
I do agree that if the one that does it doesnt have a 1:1 ratio they shouldnt do it, but if they have a good ratio on that torrent, then i cant see the harm, if the uploader didnt want to share it, then they wouldnt upload it in the first place.
fatcat69
02-23-2008, 03:57 PM
what about a pack full of scene releases lol
what im trying to say is, its not hard to download an entire season of a tv show, or even all the matrix films, multi rar them all together, then upload them.
I do agree that if the one that does it doesnt have a 1:1 ratio they shouldnt do it, but if they have a good ratio on that torrent, then i cant see the harm, if the uploader didnt want to share it, then they wouldnt upload it in the first place.
Definitely.
Btw, nice seti team stats =D
its not seti mate, its folding@home.
seti = looking for aliens
folding = protien folding, curing cancer and stuff like that :)
i have often download movies in multi rar files and uploaded to another site in one file i can't see the harm in it.
other staff will probably disagree with me on this lol
but imo, as long as you have a 1:1 ratio on the tracker you snatched it on, you can do what the hell you want with it.
once its uploaded, its not the scenes, nor the uploaders, and it was never the trackers to start with.
that goes for every torrent on every single tracker as well btw.
but im sure other tracker staff will strongly disagree with me :)
i agree
fatcat69
02-23-2008, 04:08 PM
its not seti mate, its folding@home.
seti = looking for aliens
folding = protien folding, curing cancer and stuff like that :)
Ah right just looked at it quickly and thought it was alien searching...
folding @ home is more...practical. (i know this will start a debate):lol:
well the PS3 does folding@home and as we are a games tracker, it was just obvious we plumped for that.
fatcat69
02-23-2008, 04:14 PM
well the PS3 does folding@home and as we are a games tracker, it was just obvious we plumped for that.
Cool, Ill get the info from the site and join in. :happy:
N1 mate, the more the merrier, btw you can do it on a PC as well.
its in the ps3/hardware discussion forum :)
anyway this is getting way off topic lol so lets get back on topic, not that i have anything to add (yet)
i have seen alot of people giving out over psp games been in 14 different rar files so i download the file unzip it and the upload it as one file, i also do this with movies etc
mummysboy
02-23-2008, 04:28 PM
Im with Stoi On this one.
Just because it appeared on your tracker first does not make it yours.
However on a couple of trackers i am a member off i respect the uploaders wishes and leave it as site exclusive - Why upset the uploader and miss out on other great uploads?
well sorry anto, but if your doing that with scene releases, you need to be shot.
scene releases should always be left untouched imo
if they are not scene releases, then do what you want lol
Im with Stoi On this one.
Just because it appeared on your tracker first does not make it yours.
However on a couple of trackers i am a member off i respect the uploaders wishes and leave it as site exclusive - Why upset the uploader and miss out on other great uploads?
true but if they want it left as site exclusive i wouldn't uploaded to a different site
dunson
02-23-2008, 04:33 PM
The whole issue here is really whether trackers or uploaders have a right to place copyrights on their content, which is obviously a ridiculous notion on its face.
fatcat69
02-23-2008, 04:34 PM
Im with Stoi On this one.
Just because it appeared on your tracker first does not make it yours.
However on a couple of trackers i am a member off i respect the uploaders wishes and leave it as site exclusive - Why upset the uploader and miss out on other great uploads?
true but if they want it left as site exclusive i wouldn't uploaded to a different site
Well tbh, most uploaders upload for more then 1 site. But they will up something on one site before others...for like packs and stuff. Then a day or two later put it on the other site.
:whistling
Something Else
02-23-2008, 04:39 PM
On some sites with specialised content, where uploaders rip things themselves, there is an option to keep the rip exclusive to the tracker. And another to allow it to be shared freely. Seems sensible.
I don't like to see packs with the name of other trackers on them for example you can find:
pack-SCT or pack-FTN on quite a few smaller trackers. :dabs:
On some sites with specialised content, where uploaders rip things themselves, there is an option to keep the rip exclusive to the tracker. And another to allow it to be shared freely. Seems sensible.
I don't like to see packs with the name of other trackers on them for example you can find:
pack-SCT or pack-FTN on quite a few smaller trackers. :dabs:
seen alot of these on btjunkie
FatBob
02-23-2008, 05:57 PM
you can be an uploader in goem if you want to :dabs:
myllian
02-23-2008, 06:27 PM
I don't have scene axx, but i have a bunch of 0-day trackers with good pretimes and when a release hits, I grab it on the first tracker its on and put it on a fast server and up it to another tracker that doesn't have it yet?
A lot of trackers get their stuff from SCT or SCC and don't have axx. It's lame imo because in the end the content is exactly the same on all those sites.
just because its uploaded on those first, doesnt mean the upload of another site steals it from those (if you can call it stealing)
FTP AXX
FTP dumps
Usenet
there are a few places uploaders can get the same release from, not just from another tracker.
Night0wl
02-23-2008, 09:01 PM
well sorry anto, but if your doing that with scene releases, you need to be shot.
scene releases should always be left untouched imo
if they are not scene releases, then do what you want lol
I don't really get what you are saying here. Does the scene have some kind of power over what can be done with files that are stolen in the first place?
I'm not an uploader anywhere, but if I was then the files I wouldn't upload anywhere else, packed or unpacked, would be exclusive uploads, which are for the most part rare userrips and have nothing to do with scene in any way. The sites I'm talking about are sites that ask you to follow the uploaders wishes and ask permission before spreading.
well sorry anto, but if your doing that with scene releases, you need to be shot.
scene releases should always be left untouched imo
if they are not scene releases, then do what you want lol
I don't really get what you are saying here. Does the scene have some kind of power over what can be done with files that are stolen in the first place?
I'm not an uploader anywhere, but if I was then the files I wouldn't upload anywhere else, packed or unpacked, would be exclusive uploads, which are for the most part rare userrips and have nothing to do with scene in any way. The sites I'm talking about are sites that ask you to follow the uploaders wishes and ask permission before spreading.
Its just respect to the scene.
Now lets say you download a scene release, unrar it, burn it, 2 years later you re-rip it and re-rar it, then of course you shouldnt say thanks to the scene or name it the scene release.
But if you get a 0 day release, or you download a scene release from 5 years ago and then upload it, you should keep it as is, and name the torrent as such.
I hate seeing a torrent called Halo_XBOX_NTSC.torrent and you look at the files and they are the same files that the scene released years ago.
and why should anyone get permission from anyone, its not yours anymore, and it was never the trackers.
so i would have to get permission from you to share it on emule, kazaa, or even burn a copy for my friend/family.
its a load of crap, once its uploaded, and its snatched, its not yours or the trackers anymore.
Feeling
02-23-2008, 09:40 PM
how lame, get your own axx, dont pretend you have some by stealing from another site.
told you other site staff wouldnt agree with me. lol
but your stealing from the scene if you look at it that way so...
Di@monds
02-23-2008, 09:55 PM
Well why dont you steal from the scene and stop stealing from another site.
Night0wl
02-23-2008, 10:00 PM
Its just respect to the scene.
Now lets say you download a scene release, unrar it, burn it, 2 years later you re-rip it and re-rar it, then of course you shouldnt say thanks to the scene or name it the scene release.
But if you get a 0 day release, or you download a scene release from 5 years ago and then upload it, you should keep it as is, and name the torrent as such.
I hate seeing a torrent called Halo_XBOX_NTSC.torrent and you look at the files and they are the same files that the scene released years ago.
and why should anyone get permission from anyone, its not yours anymore, and it was never the trackers.
so i would have to get permission from you to share it on emule, kazaa, or even burn a copy for my friend/family.
its a load of crap, once its uploaded, and its snatched, its not yours or the trackers anymore.
I agree with you about changing the filenames. but that wasn't what I was trying to say. I'm talking about uploading unrared files and not changing the name. Anyone that wants to help seed will see which file it is.
As for the permission thing, I am talking about music sites e.g. TT, TR, E or BTMusic, where people will upload only to that tracker and do not want it spread. These files can't be found anywhere else. This would include old rare stuff and DJ mixes etc.
Look at it this way. Same as a movie/music company can put copyright on something, so can users of those trackers. Difference is that they share as a service to friends not to make money of it.
Also most of these things aren't available to buy in the first place, unlike the scene releases.
vergo
02-23-2008, 10:31 PM
If you don't want to get caught, the safest way would be to use a different IP on the trackers you upload to. A second seedbox would allow you to do that.
fatcat69
02-23-2008, 10:40 PM
If you don't want to get caught, the safest way would be to use a different IP on the trackers you upload to. A second seedbox would allow you to do that.
Blahahaha thats the biggest waste of money I have heard yet.
Trackers dont care if you upload the files you download to other trackers...as long as you seed to a 1:1 ratio ...in fact I know staff that encourage it!
Doing anything other then that goes completely against what file sharing is.
Any tracker that says "dont steal our packs" is just full of irony as it is not like they made the releases...they just compiled them together...wow that takes all of what...5 minutes. :lol::lol::lol:
So many times have I seen packs appear on other trackers...and staff dont care, if they are new to staffing a tracker they will make a deal out of it, but eventually they just say f**k it. Because 11/10 times the pack is just a renamed scene pack anyway :lol::lol:
Dont forget torrent sites steal from the scene.....not the other way around. The irony of trackers yelling at users for stealing packs is just so funny.
Good example: BMTV, why do you think their pre times are slower then 0day, because their uploaders download from a 0day, unpack it, and put it up there. :lol:
Only few trackers have exclusive content that is ripped solely by its users...then it is non scene aka p2p.
So dont be paranoid...
SgtMajor
02-23-2008, 10:46 PM
I has usenet, I iz can be massive uploader yes?
vergo
02-23-2008, 10:47 PM
If you don't want to get caught, the safest way would be to use a different IP on the trackers you upload to. A second seedbox would allow you to do that.
Blahahaha thats the biggest waste of money I have heard yet.
Trackers dont care if you upload the files you download to other trackers...as long as you seed to a 1:1 ratio ...in fact I know staff that encourage it!
Doing anything other then that goes completely against what file sharing is.t
A lot of tracker staff do care, which is why many have banned users who believe were sharing their torrents.
fatcat69
02-24-2008, 12:03 AM
Blahahaha thats the biggest waste of money I have heard yet.
Trackers dont care if you upload the files you download to other trackers...as long as you seed to a 1:1 ratio ...in fact I know staff that encourage it!
Doing anything other then that goes completely against what file sharing is.t
A lot of tracker staff do care, which is why many have banned users who believe were sharing their torrents.
I upload for 5 trackers lvl5 or above, and not one of them cares one bit, actually i know staff members of two of the trackers that actually know full well that certain lower level sites grab from them and they dont care at all...hell they are VIP's on the lwr lvl site. :lol:
It does not matter where you download it from as long as you keep a good ratio.
Here I can show you, go to ScT or SCC and just watch the releases...specifically dvdr or hd dvd rips. You will see that which site gets it after the other will have say 8 seeders and only 2 snatches.
Obviously they got it from somewhere else...and I know for a fact that 8 of us at ScT didnt try to upload it at the same time.
Another way you can tell from where a release is orig from is that some releases from ScT and SCC wont match....meaning their sizes are slightly different. Go to any tracker and just match the file size...that will tell you where it is from.
weenden
02-24-2008, 12:10 AM
why dont you ask on the sites your on why do we have to hear about your whats and want to do's
pandabear
02-24-2008, 12:17 AM
The only reason people like the OP want to be uploaders is to get the perks. So they just want to steal from other sites, and upload 1 or 2 things a week to another site, and lap up the uploader perks. I hope you aren't planning to do this on ftn.
fatcat69
02-24-2008, 04:54 AM
I hope you aren't planning to do this on ftn.
That wouldnt be tolerated at all at any high level site. Everyone pulls their own weight or they lose privs. :lol:
pandabear
02-24-2008, 05:21 AM
... totally misread, ignore this :P
jam0980tr
02-24-2008, 05:48 AM
zaa730 (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../../members/zaa730-175018)
1 tip if you wanna become a uploader get a gigabit on a scene axxs, you don't have to worry about anything and i know you can get kick ass pre times on any site.
Ask for a free slot on a top tracker and only upload for that site and if they do find out you leaking the stuff to other sites, you will get banned for it by breaking the rules but its gonna be hard to races them uploads becoz there are alot of people on them ftp, who upload for the site and have your trader ready to kick ass soon as the ftp got it, you have it in few mins ;)
I hope you understand what i just said buddy and thats my tip for anyone, i hope this helps :)
but on most sites rules
Do NOT upload our torrents to other trackers! Stealing torrents will result in your account being DISABLED.
Trackers don't like people Stealing there torrents forget about if its scene or non scene its the rules by the way.
This what people need to understand thats why you have to get your own sources
I got my own sources so i can do what the hell i wanna do with my scene noone can't say nuffin to me thats the good thing lol
Actatoi
02-24-2008, 11:12 AM
I always thought "do not upload our torrents to other trackers" were the .torrent they meant. Not the actual media involved. :huh:
fatcat69
02-24-2008, 12:01 PM
I always thought "do not upload our torrents to other trackers" were the .torrent they meant. Not the actual media involved. :huh:
No that is what it means, You are correct.
It does not mean the media at all.
When you download a torrent file, it has your passkey embeded with it. If you are, dumb enough lets say, to upload the .torrent file with your passkey in it to a site...well people will start connecting to the orig site with your passkey, your connection will be flagged, and youll be banned.
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