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dr jones
08-12-2008, 02:45 AM
Which rules in your tracker do you like/hate most ?

For me

Hate
1.waitng time
2.ratio
3.1 ip address
4.parking(some site dont have a parking option)

Like
1.free leech
2.2x upload etc

lukee
08-12-2008, 02:51 AM
I would like to have the option of using a second iP adress too. Lets say you donate 30Euro, you get a CT,listed as anonymous on the peer list, donation star, 50Gb uploaded and a second IP address. I think it would be fair.

SgtMajor
08-12-2008, 02:54 AM
Automatic infractions, I mean htf can you piss a machine off enough for it to give you a warning :huh:

integral
08-12-2008, 02:59 AM
Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.

TL's irc rules suck, they make you feel like you're a little kid in school again. I mean, I realize they want to hide the existence of (better) trackers from their users, so they don't lose customers, but censorship always sucks. ;)

1000possibleclaws
08-12-2008, 02:59 AM
The new 3 day seed time on ScT 0 day :pinch:

SgtMajor
08-12-2008, 03:02 AM
Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.

TL's irc rules suck, they make you feel like you're a little kid in school again. I mean, I realize they want to hide the existence of (better) trackers from their users, so they don't lose customers, but censorship always sucks. ;)

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

Eargasm
08-12-2008, 06:52 AM
in no particular order

lack of account parking - I'm going to be OOF for about 3 months soon and won't be surprised if some of my accounts get pruned.

lack of multiple genres for movies at movie trackers - If I want to browse romantic comedies or sci-fi horror flicks then I don't want to have to know the title of the film I'm looking for.

rars - because they suck and are a waste of space. If the same thing exists on another tracker in non-rar form I'll go to that other tracker and pick it up.

Pay2Leech - I'm often donating to sites that I'm a member of, unless it has a P2L policy. If it does, I avoid donating.

bblogs
08-12-2008, 07:36 AM
So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

Kinda reminds me of an old FST thread :whistling

RedRansom
08-12-2008, 07:48 AM
4.parking(some site dont have a parking option)you're reading my mind man :P
@scl for cadet it was 7 days wtf!:wacko: but now Without Parking - 2 weeks :) ...
about TL and sct 42 days but there is no park section...upload TBs but when you go to military or lost your connection or moving new city bump ...
i dont know they wanna keep active leech and seed:unsure: but park section must be...we saw some1 disable from TL for working college exams(ahh i am hearing how can:lol: but there is million reason for parking account)

i love no ratio system tracker i have a few but this is nice no1 worry about e-penis:lol: (at least i :unsure: :P )...

binocular
08-12-2008, 07:49 AM
"..... or seed for minimum of 48/72 hrs CONTINUOUSLY." :sick:

stoi
08-12-2008, 09:17 AM
i like all the rules in "my" tracker, because well, i had a hand in making them lol

what i hate in general is

Freeleech
2* Upload

if you download it, seed the fucking thing back, its not hard.

what if the uploader just seeded 1/2 the torrent then pissed off.

kooftspc11
08-12-2008, 09:21 AM
i like all the rules in "my" tracker, because well, i had a hand in making them lol

what i hate in general is

Freeleech
2* Upload

if you download it, seed the fucking thing back, its not hard.

what if the uploader just seeded 1/2 the torrent then pissed off.

site owners named stoi who pay no attention to slutty pm's on fst :P

guitarhero
08-12-2008, 09:26 AM
For sure i hate IP address restriction.. and i mostly like.. hmm ... competitions !

Ali-g
08-12-2008, 10:30 AM
The most I like. No Hit n Runs with SP. Ull guess which tracker has it :whistling

mrnobody
08-12-2008, 12:08 PM
likes -

- chatty irc
- active forum
- goodie members
- sexay staffers
- request / offer section
- requests filled pretty quick
- competitions
- a way to help low connection users - be that by no ratio or by SI system. I personally am not a fan of freeleech.
- no minimum seeding requirement wh00t.
- home rippers and releasers. I like how the owner of XWT ripps weekly wrestling shows and uploads it asps.
- all content i ever wanted =]


dislikes-

- the status bar. I dislike the bar that shows my upload & my download (i don't mind # of torrent up or down though). Can't those infos be limited to user profile, imo it would look better.
- showing "average connection time" in status bar. It's a torture, for me at least :-\
- P2L. One of the site i am member of has it.




I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

maybe the user whom u pm'ed reported u :whistling

PlayeR
08-12-2008, 01:56 PM
I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

waaa..i think this is the worst. How the hell is it called PM when it can be read by others? I thought PM stands for Private Message, not Public Message...:unsure:

btw, what I hate are the same as squirr3l

integral
08-12-2008, 02:01 PM
I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

waaa..i think this is the worst. How the hell is it called PM when it can be read by others? I thought PM stands for Private Message, not Public Message...:unsure:

btw, what I hate are the same as squirr3l

This isn't Soviet Russia; you're entitled to your opinion too. You should have just quoted them both and not typed anything, since that's what you basically did anyway. :frusty:

stoi
08-12-2008, 02:04 PM
well i will say this, I have read 3 members PMs in 5 years of running a tracker.

1: A french member was getting death threats on our tracker from his sisters boyfriend, through PMs.

2: Another tracker was spamming BCG saying bad crap about me which was not true (this was when i first started out).

3: When the staff split last year, a member from over there was pming my members saying that their new tracker was going to be better than BCG ever could be, and getting members to sign up. so i checked and banned him, even though hes back now, btw he was not staff of BCG when the spplit happen, he just went with the flow.

That is the only times i have ever looked at anyones PMs, but i must admit it is very easy to do so. just go to the db and query a word in the PM field (like another trackers URL for example, and bingo, you can get everyone thats ever talked about that tracker.)

you could even make a mod that if certain words are PMed, then you get a PM with all the PMs that have that word when they happen.

But yes i do think PMs are private, so i only do it as a very very last resort, and even when i do it, i feel guilty as hell for doing it.

ovisan
08-12-2008, 02:05 PM
I 8:
- locked topics
- ratios (got slow upl speeds)
- "smart" people on forums who give shitty answers to others who request help
- when yre favorite tracker is down for a few days...
- publicity banners
- PM requesting donations
- seedboxes, I seed for years and never get a 1:1 ratio


Well these are not rules, more like facts

Nemrod
08-12-2008, 02:06 PM
Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.

TL's irc rules suck, they make you feel like you're a little kid in school again. I mean, I realize they want to hide the existence of (better) trackers from their users, so they don't lose customers, but censorship always sucks. ;)

I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

Indeed, Private means that exactly.

Itīs about ethics, staff ethics.
At least they should warn users about the possibility that their PM could be read by staff, and used against them. If not itīs unethical.


About the topic, the thing I dislike the most is that script that disables users due to inactivity. There are situations that prevent users to login for certain period of time, many sites understand that and if the user contacts staff then your account is respected, but others donīt. And not always you know if you have to be out due to major causes.
I had an accident few months ago, itīs really really humiliating that being in a hospital bed or at home, like a mummy... full of bandages... all broken, and oneself has to be worried about a damn tracker, ask somebody to login for you, etc.

wheeloftime
08-12-2008, 02:18 PM
I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

maybe the user whom u pm'ed reported u :whistling

No, the user told me about it and I reported him - I just thought it inappropriate pm'ing strangers with invitations to a horse porn tracker.

PlayeR
08-12-2008, 02:18 PM
This isn't Soviet Russia; you're entitled to your opinion too. You should have just quoted them both and not typed anything, since that's what you basically did anyway. :frusty:

LOL. What is your problem Integral? Does it bother you so much that you have to bang your head on the wall??
anyway, The rule does not say it is wrong. so I could care less about it :whistling

Cabalo
08-12-2008, 02:38 PM
[quote=PlayeR;2929569]

waaa..i think this is the worst. How the hell is it called PM when it can be read by others? I thought PM stands for Private Message, not Public Message...:unsure:

btw, what I hate are the same as squirr3l

you do know that with sql access and a simple query form you can read any messages stored at any forum ? messages are stored at a database, you are never free of them being read, it all depends on the sysops ethics.

TP635
08-12-2008, 03:02 PM
PM, like email cannot be assume to be private.....

SgtMajor
08-12-2008, 04:05 PM
I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

maybe the user whom u pm'ed reported u :whistling

No - he took the invites, my PM never made it to him!

I had to slip an email contact inside another PM showing "tech" help :whistling

soulreaper
08-12-2008, 05:32 PM
I don't think one can "like" rules,its just something one has to obey/abide by. The rules that I particularly dislike are :-

1)Visible PMs- Now I find this quite ridiculous. If I pm a member on site and an admin sees it,it defeats the purpose of the PM plus if the PM is "controversial" then it could get you into serious trouble. I'd say,exert caution in Bitmetv especially coz you're under the scanner more often than not.

2) Trick Polls- This isn't a rule but something I'd like to see change. Banning members because they apparently didn't pick the "right" choice is immature and quite frankly it goes against community spirit. If you dont want your members to express their real opinion then wtf have a poll at all?

3)Seedbox Regulation- This isn't a rule,but I'd like to see this getting implemented.I'm not gonna discuss this in detail but rest assured ,seedboxers pretty much kill any chance of seeding back with a half-decent connection. Seeding shouldn't be a competition,it should be done with the "spirit of sharing" in mind. This is where BT has taken a wrong turn.

4)Open signup policy- I feel sites(the ones that NEVER open up) should open up(atleast once if not more) to give users a chance to enjoy their content. If Bitmetv,BCG,even Revolt opened up then why can't more quality sites open their doors? Torrenting for me is entertainment and enjoying what internet has to offer,I think torrent sites take themselves far too seriously. Eg:- AOM's highly ridiculous invite policy that expects a member to be a magician(well almost). All I'll say to them is be realistic and chill out.

5)The 1:1/hit n run- I'm not gonna discuss this in detail but know that getting 1:1 on hard to seed sites on every torrent is plain idiotic and this needs to be atleast amended if not eliminated.

Lastly, torrenting should be fun and not a burden!

stoi
08-12-2008, 05:40 PM
i know i keep harping on about US is this thread but here is another one lol

1: we dont do that, so send what you like, as long as you dont get reported for doing it, and its within reason (no death threats, or this tracker has open sigups and its better that this one ever will be type shite)

2: Not once have i banned someone for voting what they voted in a poll.

3: With our SP mod, this nullifies the overseeding with SB, and what brings usually fast download speeds.

4: Yes we do it/have done it but its a pain in the ass banning all the cheaters etc.

5: again our SP system covers that, just seed the thing for awhile, and its not months and months to avoid a hit and run.

6: we try to make it fun, but a lot of members dont "get" our SP system and are just plain scared of it.

from a post by me on our forums, that not many have looked at lol



Just a very quick rant here before i go to bed.

SP system is there so you can download what you want, when you want, does not matter if it is 0 day or 2 years old. after a week or so you can come off it if you like, you do not have to seed it for months on end, waiting for another leecher to jump on, and actually upload to someone to not get a hit and run.

If everyone downloaded what they wanted, then more members would be PU/SPU because there would be more leechers to upload to, instead of members being scared to download, which is completely missing the point of the SP system.

and this, i wont download because SP only takes me to a 1 ratio, is bullshit.

What do you do on other trackers, where you actually have to upload to get over a 1 ratio, but no leechers come on. at least you get a 1 ratio on here on every torrent, just for seeding for a few days, on other trackers, you could be seeding a torrent for months, to get a 1 ratio on the thing, never mind a 2 ratio.

So all these PU and SPU, do you never download a torrent that is not brand new, just incase you get demoted on other trackers?

Or do you just download and get the hit and run, but we have the hit and run covered with the SP system, and if you do just hit and run, then your global ratio will still go down.

I just do not understand some of the silly arguments i hear against the SP system we have, if everyone understood it, and just downloaded what they wanted, when they wanted it, very few members would actually need to use the SP system for any torrent, because you would have leechers to actually upload to on nearly every torrent.

Edit: Its actually easier to get PU SPU on here than on most sites.

Download old torrent, Get SP, wait for leecher, Upload .5 of the torrent, = 1.5 ratio = PU. upload 1.05 of the torrent = 2.05 Global ratio = SPU

/end rant

soulreaper
08-12-2008, 05:54 PM
Thx for reciprocating.I forgot to add to my post that BCG is probably the only site that have implemented their truly superb and unique SP system that takes care of both seedbox abusers(if you will) and hit n runners. With such a system in place a user with a mediocre connection can feel he's in the right place.
It's a pity I'm shit out of time to play games,wish there was a BCM(Blackcats-Movies?) with an SP system,now that would be out of this world!

It's nice to see owners with a realistic approach to torrenting!

mrnobody
08-12-2008, 05:59 PM
zOMG OMG STAFFERS CAN SEE MY PRIVATE MESSAGES.

seriously, u guys didn't think other wise, did you?

they OWN the site, they can literally do w/e the hell they want with their site and their userbase.

That is why you are supposed to signup for those sites you trust...not every site that pops out now and then.

Putting it in a different way, nothing is truly "private". Everything you do over the interwebz, can easily be tracked,...you real life background (social security, criminal history, school records, immunizations etc) can easily be obtained by authorities. On top of that, anything you own can be taken away by government. Is that "private" enough?

editZ:

What happened with Sgt is none of my business but looks like wheeloftime already answered his situation.

And Stoi checking 3 pms in 5 year (with valid reasons) is more than fair imo. If he didn't tell you, you would have nothing to bitch about it.

killercam101
08-12-2008, 06:13 PM
No posting of gore/beastiality etc. Why even make a torrent site if that material isn't allowed?

soulreaper
08-12-2008, 06:18 PM
zOMG OMG STAFFERS CAN SEE MY PRIVATE MESSAGES.

seriously, u guys didn't think other wise, did you?

I for one knew this happens(esp when tequilavip openly admitted it on bmtv).



they OWN the site, they can literally do w/e the hell they want with their site and their userbase.

Yes torrent sites can do whatever the hell they want. Professional companies can do whatever they want to their employees by laying down their policies. But that don't make it right!
If everyone would just keep quiet about it and let the atrocities/bullshit continue then it will go on endlessly and there will never be an improvement. Remember that both the admin and the members need to work in tandem for a torrent site or for any organisation to flourish.Sorry I don't quite agree with your "middle-of-the-road" viewpoint.


That is why you are supposed to signup for those sites you trust...not every site that pops out now and then.


This goes on rampantly in bitmetv which is an established site.(But yah I get your point).

mrnobody
08-12-2008, 06:20 PM
2) Trick Polls- This isn't a rule but something I'd like to see change. Banning members because they apparently didn't pick the "right" choice is immature and quite frankly it goes against community spirit. If you dont want your members to express their real opinion then wtf have a poll at all?



name me one tracker that does that.




I feel sites(the ones that NEVER open up) should open up(atleast once if not more) to give users a chance to enjoy their content. If Bitmetv,BCG,even Revolt opened up then why can't more quality sites open their doors? Torrenting for me is entertainment and enjoying what internet has to offer,I think torrent sites take themselves far too seriously. Eg:- AOM's highly ridiculous invite policy that expects a member to be a magician(well almost). All I'll say to them is be realistic and chill out.

like previously said, owners of a tracker literally can do w/e the hell they want. They can make it freeleech, 2x upload, implement SI system or even close open sign up forever. Yes, you can moan and cry about it, but at the end it's their tracker....it's their choice. We (users) are just guest to private communities. And like a good guest, if you do not appreciate how they do it, leave.

AOM's invite policy is more than fair. They want to build a user base of folks who know stuff. I don't see what is wrong with that. If you are quite addicted to magic, then prove yourself, get involved, and i am sure you will get invited. If not, you prolly don't have to be there...there are alternatives.

Likewise, those tracker who wish to be closed made their choice. If you don't like it then be it. You don't have to be in every other tracker you know.

Additionally, open signup IS a disaster, it brings banned users, cheaters, dupe accounts, and hundred other troubles. Just ask stoi how many brazillian cheaters he gets for each time BCG opens signup.



Yes torrent sites can do whatever the hell they want. Professional companies can do whatever they want to their employees by laying down their policies. But that don't make it right!
If everyone would just keep quiet about it and let the atrocities/bullshit continue then it will go on endlessly and there will never be an improvement. Remember that both the admin and the members need to work in tandem for a torrent site or for any organisation to flourish.Sorry I don't quite agree with your "middle-of-the-road" viewpoint.


You miss the point though. Despite having axx to member PMs, there are staffers (sites) who would never do that. Hence the idea of joining sites that you trust.

T-BONE
08-12-2008, 06:26 PM
New seeding time rules on SCT suck. Why bother buying a seedbox or upload credit to buffer your account when your ratio means shit there anymore.

Skiz
08-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Why would anyone buy a seedbox to begin with is beyond me. :huh:

T-BONE
08-12-2008, 06:39 PM
My home connection is terrible and a seedbox for just one month easily buffers all my accounts leaving me to download for ages without worrying about ratio. Much cheaper than usenet or any other alternatives.

soulreaper
08-12-2008, 06:44 PM
name me one tracker that does that.

Sure.Bitmetv,All faggotry...ALL the time!




like previously said, owners of a tracker literally can do w/e the hell they want. They can make it freeleech, 2x upload, implement SI system or even close open sign up forever. Yes, you can moan and cry about it, but at the end it's their tracker....it's their choice. We (users) are just guest to private communities. And like a good guest, if you do not appreciate how they do it, leave.

Well I stated my suggestions and I'm sticking to them. You're entitled to yours and If you/they(the admins) dont consider my recommendations I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.



AOM's invite policy is more than fair. They want to build a user base of folks who know stuff. I don't see what is wrong with that. If you are quite addicted to magic, then prove yourself, get involved, and i am sure you will get invited. If not, you prolly don't have to be there...there are alternatives.

AOM did have open signups when they did start out,they didnt think of getting "expert magicians" back then,did they? They just wanted to get a foothold in the torrenting realm. Now they just want to be elite all of a sudden,coz they feel they have some sort of bullshit reputation to keep up?(WTAW maybe,this is just my theory).
Secondly their invite policy is beyond ridiculous. I've been watching magic since I was a kid. PC Sarkar,Franz Harary,Copperfield to name a few were the ones I loved watching.
Now I don't have a lot of magical stuff to share ,that doesn't mean I don't "deserve" to be a member there. Ironically that's the whole point of torrenting,to get access to material you don't have. This is something that would probably fly past your brain.



Additionally, open signup IS a disaster, it brings banned users, cheaters, dupe accounts, and hundred other troubles. Just ask stoi how many brazillian cheaters he gets for each time BCG opens signup.

Geez,what's with your uptightness? People like you take torrenting/internet way to seriously.This is part of the whole open-signup process. Yes it has its associated problems but then it should be done imo to give others a chance to get a slice of the action. Cheers to stoi for being large-hearted,I truly appreciate positive attitude!

Nemrod
08-12-2008, 06:44 PM
New seeding time rules on SCT suck. Why bother buying a seedbox or upload credit to buffer your account when your ratio means shit there anymore.

Says who? :blink:


Do NOT let your ratio slip below 1.0. All downloads only cost 75% of their actual size, and all packs without a pre-time are free, so there is no excuse to have a ratio below 1.0!


Ratio is still the most important thing there.
What they did is extremely good and healthy, that new system tends to take care of those users who have not seedboxes or fast speeds, and also makes people with boxes to be a little more responsible and a little bit less selfish. Now if you get access to a seedbox and upload 1 TB in 1 week, doesnīt mean youīll be allowed to download what you want without sharing, as many users did. Now you have to share.
Very well done by SCT staff.

stoi
08-12-2008, 06:47 PM
My home connection is terrible and a seedbox for just one month easily buffers all my accounts leaving me to download for ages without worrying about ratio. Much cheaper than usenet or any other alternatives.

thats one of the reasons we have SP, to stop greedy bastards like you doing that :)

T-BONE
08-12-2008, 07:02 PM
I can appreciate that on BCG, your a specialized content tracker whose torrents wouldn't survive otherwise. SCT is a 0-day pay to leech site which did act more like a service, which is why I treated it as such. Much like TL.

mrnobody
08-12-2008, 07:03 PM
Well I stated my suggestions and I'm sticking to them. You're entitled to yours and If you/they(the admins) dont consider my recommendations I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.



and what exactly is your recommendations? i must have missed.



AOM did have open signups when they did start out,they didnt think of getting "expert magicians" back then,did they? They just wanted to get a foothold in the torrenting realm. Now they just want to be elite all of a sudden,coz they feel they have some sort of bullshit reputation to keep up?(WTAW maybe,this is just my theory).
Secondly their invite policy is beyond ridiculous. I've been watching magic since I was a kid. PC Sarkar,Franz Harary,Copperfield to name a few were the ones I loved watching.
Now I don't have a lot of magical stuff to share ,that doesn't mean I don't "deserve" to be a member there. Ironically that's the whole point of torrenting,to get access to material you don't have. This is something that would probably fly past your brain.


every tracker needs fresh people to start out with. There are very few trackers that have been closed since the beginning. In other words, most had open signup at the beginning.

As for your WTAW comment, NO respected tracker gives a sh!t about it and knowing one staffer at AOM personally, i know they don't give a shit about it either. As a matter of fact, i doubt they even know about it. One of there admin is a member of FST but barely even active here. They have a little world of their own....leave them alone.





Geez,what's with your uptightness? People like you take torrenting/internet way to seriously.



merely an excuse to deform others ideas...by making comments more personal.



This is part of the whole open-signup process. Yes it has its associated problems but then it should be done imo to give others a chance to get a slice of the action. Cheers to stoi for being large-hearted,I truly appreciate positive attitude!

Quoting Stoi about open signup...




I do not blame trackers one bit for banning entire counties, when we open, 80% of new members are from Brazil, and 99% of those cheat.



He takes time to clean up the mess. Others don't. They find it easier to close signup and have an invite system instead. Like said previously, if you don't like their policy, find an alternative tracker. You don't have to be everywhere.

stoi
08-12-2008, 07:10 PM
I can appreciate that on BCG, your a specialized content tracker whose torrents wouldn't survive otherwise. SCT is a 0-day pay to leech site which did act more like a service, which is why I treated it as such. Much like TL.

well even if we were a 0 day tracker, we would still have the SP on.

but im not a member of there so i dont know what they do, or how they work, but i still think, that if you download it, you should seed it back, or at the very least, seed it for some time and not just hit and run.

dunson
08-12-2008, 09:58 PM
The cute avatar rule on Waffles is pretty lame.

Night0wl
08-12-2008, 10:22 PM
I hate the inactivity rule. Should be something like PU or above are never deleted, autoparked at the most.

Hate the seeding time rule as well. It means I can't queue inactive torrents.

xnugx
08-13-2008, 06:31 AM
The cute avatar rule on Waffles is pretty lame.

Yeah. Mine got removed and I was pissed.

buggyfresh
08-13-2008, 02:18 PM
Not mentioning other trackers in IRC/forum, especially TL.


This happens on Freethescene, S*C, revott (??) etc too - hate that stoopid rule! wtf are you that insecure that ppl can't talk about other trackers??
And the waffles rule is a bit stupid, but at least you don't get wanred for it unless you change t back several times lol..othrwise that tracker is fine.

Likes: packs, hit and run rules, good forum, ppl who are actually helpful (rather than snobbish) and good IRC (w/o too much childish slut talk which can be done in chatrooms)

jokzor
08-13-2008, 09:31 PM
i kinda hate ratio, but i understand the need of it
sct is perfect for me, great staff great rules, and they not gonna throw all their ego on you if you fail once or twice, you feel like you should seed every bit of your bandwidth to them

firedriver
08-13-2008, 09:42 PM
The cute avatar rule on Waffles is pretty lame.
Agree. :dabs:

greasemonkey
08-13-2008, 11:45 PM
A few things...
- Ratio: every site should have a no ratio system with a seeding time rule or some kind of seeding incentive.
- Account parking: I vacation about 2 times a year and its a drag keeping my accounts active when I'm away.
- Trackers are p2l and make profit from donations.

I also HATE users that partial seed or download from other sites and seed them somewhere else. It's annoying looking at a new torrent that have like 20 seeders and only 2 snatches. Oh and users that spam post in the tracker's forums in order to build their post count.

Roark
08-14-2008, 02:57 AM
My home connection is terrible and a seedbox for just one month easily buffers all my accounts leaving me to download for ages without worrying about ratio. Much cheaper than usenet or any other alternatives.

thats one of the reasons we have SP, to stop greedy bastards like you doing that :)

Ban seedboxes by non-uploaders then. Oh wait, you're happy to take advantage of his fast upload speeds for a month, just upset when he tries to actually use the upload he contributed. Gotcha.

Strong sites, even those with unique content (best example: hdbits) don't need to rely on seeding rules.

Hate:
Minimum seeding time rules
Free Leech / 2x upload (torrents are slower and die faster)
heavily moderated forums
42 day account expiration
Continuous client bans


Like:
Requests
User Uploads
Ratio gambling
P2L (whatever keeps the server bills paid)

My opinion of the best run sites: hdbits, and lately, ftn

stoi
08-14-2008, 03:01 AM
wtf.

why should he pay Ģ15 for a OVH seedbox for a month, upload 700 gig on 4 6 gig torrents, then after that proceed to rape the site dry of 700 gigs worth of content.

we may as well say if you donate Ģ15 we will give you 700 gig upload, and you can hit and run all you want.

bloody farcicle.

Roark
08-14-2008, 03:02 AM
like previously said, owners of a tracker literally can do w/e the hell they want. They can make it freeleech, 2x upload, implement SI system or even close open sign up forever. Yes, you can moan and cry about it, but at the end it's their tracker....it's their choice. We (users) are just guest to private communities. And like a good guest, if you do not appreciate how they do it, leave.

This is why I love this forum. Because I don't have to just leave, I can come here and smear them. And as much as the protest that they don't care, they show up here in droves to defend themselves.

integral
08-14-2008, 07:02 AM
like previously said, owners of a tracker literally can do w/e the hell they want. They can make it freeleech, 2x upload, implement SI system or even close open sign up forever. Yes, you can moan and cry about it, but at the end it's their tracker....it's their choice. We (users) are just guest to private communities. And like a good guest, if you do not appreciate how they do it, leave.

This is why I love this forum. Because I don't have to just leave, I can come here and smear them. And as much as the protest that they don't care, they show up here in droves to defend themselves.

Yes, the anonymity of this forum is a plus. :)

Blackbeard
08-14-2008, 03:10 PM
I hate waiting times, i mean come on it's worthless.. say if i needed to get good ratio how would i if theres like a 6hr wait?, so it's hard to get a good ratio..

stoi
08-14-2008, 03:18 PM
I have to agree with fearful on that one, i remember joining bitconsole back in the day just to way up my competition so to speak lol and had to wait 48 hours to download, i was like, sod that and just went elsewhere.

and like fearful says if you have to wait XX hours to actually get on the torrent, most of the leechers are already seeds these days with seedboxes and faster home connections, and usually members with a bad ratio have the wait times, but its those that need to jump on them first.

hmmm, maybe we should have wait times for fast uploaders, they already have the buffer, and i always hear people on here saying, members that download from elsewhere and help seed they hate, so this will put a stop to that.

i am joking btw (i think lol)

Roark
08-14-2008, 11:54 PM
wtf.

why should he pay Ģ15 for a OVH seedbox for a month, upload 700 gig on 4 6 gig torrents, then after that proceed to rape the site dry of 700 gigs worth of content.

we may as well say if you donate Ģ15 we will give you 700 gig upload, and you can hit and run all you want.

bloody farcicle.

How about answering the question? If you think seedboxes are a net drain on your site, why don't you ban them? Else, you can limit the total upload on any one torrent to 2x the download.

At the very least, you can admit that your broken site depends on a number of users never using the upload they accumulate.

f@flot
08-15-2008, 12:41 AM
I got a 1 week warning from 1 UK site for PMing someone an offer of an invite to another tracker, so go figure how they knew what was in my PM?? :angry:

So add that to the list, reading my fukkin PMs!! (Private Messages, they are private for a reason!)

Of course they can read your PM's, what do you think they are doing once they get bored from their site? :)
Kinda surprised you didn't know they can do that...:whistling
Edit: or maybe the guy is a rat...? :o

stoi
08-15-2008, 12:48 AM
wtf.

why should he pay Ģ15 for a OVH seedbox for a month, upload 700 gig on 4 6 gig torrents, then after that proceed to rape the site dry of 700 gigs worth of content.

we may as well say if you donate Ģ15 we will give you 700 gig upload, and you can hit and run all you want.

bloody farcicle.

How about answering the question? If you think seedboxes are a net drain on your site, why don't you ban them? Else, you can limit the total upload on any one torrent to 2x the download.

At the very least, you can admit that your broken site depends on a number of users never using the upload they accumulate.

I guess your not a member of BCG, and no i dont have to admit anything. because thre is nothing to admit to.

Seedbox members are well rewardarded with SPU, and slow uploaders are well rewarded, because they have no fear of getting banned.

flamers
08-15-2008, 12:51 AM
so the op hates ratios, but loves freeleech.....i guess he hates prvt trackers, or atleast how they're supposed to work...

kfir6669
08-15-2008, 12:51 AM
hate: can not hit and run.
like: in most cases that rule can be violated. ;)

Night0wl
08-15-2008, 12:54 AM
I have to agree with fearful on that one, i remember joining bitconsole back in the day just to way up my competition so to speak lol and had to wait 48 hours to download, i was like, sod that and just went elsewhere.

and like fearful says if you have to wait XX hours to actually get on the torrent, most of the leechers are already seeds these days with seedboxes and faster home connections, and usually members with a bad ratio have the wait times, but its those that need to jump on them first.

hmmm, maybe we should have wait times for fast uploaders, they already have the buffer, and i always hear people on here saying, members that download from elsewhere and help seed they hate, so this will put a stop to that.

i am joking btw (i think lol)

The only site that uses wait time the right way is TT. when you join you can't download anything for the first 48 hours. After that download anything you want. This is to make sure the users know what to do i.e. not go on some downloading spree and dig a big hole for themselves.

stoi
08-15-2008, 12:58 AM
well we do that, but we at least let you get 4 torrents or 7gig downloaded before you cant download again, so at least you have something to play while your sitting there scratching your ass wondering why the hell your in this user class called kitty Litter. so they can actually go and read the the FAQ and Rules.

and i thought TL had wait times as well, maybe thats just for low ratio users.

what gets me is, people complain about seedboxes, but they are the 1st ones to say, fuck me this is slow hurry up will you, and we get that a lot on BCG in the comments.

or i will wait for more seeders, wtf if its going slow you have a better chance of getting your ratio up, if you wait for more seeders all the leecher are going to have it so you will have to rely on SP.

integral
08-15-2008, 01:05 AM
well we do that, but we at least let you get 4 torrents or 7gig downloaded before you cant download again, so at least you have something to play while your sitting there scratching your ass wondering why the hell your in this user class called kitty Litter. so they can actually go and read the the FAQ and Rules.

and i thought TL had wait times as well, maybe thats just for low ratio users.

TL has what I like to call the 'trap' wait times. All newly registered users are stuck with a 48 hour wait time for all newly uploaded torrents. Users may:

1) Get tired of waiting, and look for another option.
2) Start downloading older stuff, that doesn't have many leechers, and bury themselves in a ratio hole.

TL of course has a solution for both of those: Pay2Leech VIP! That's the only reason I think they have wait-times, anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. ;)

Night0wl
08-15-2008, 01:09 AM
well we do that, but we at least let you get 4 torrents or 7gig downloaded before you cant download again, so at least you have something to play while your sitting there scratching your ass wondering why the hell your in this user class called kitty Litter. so they can actually go and read the the FAQ and Rules.

and i thought TL had wait times as well, maybe thats just for low ratio users.

TL has what I like to call the 'trap' wait times. All newly registered users are stuck with a 48 hour wait time for all newly uploaded torrents. Users may:

1) Get tired of waiting, and look for another option.
2) Start downloading older stuff, that doesn't have many leechers, and bury themselves in a ratio hole.

TL of course has a solution for both of those: Pay2Leech VIP! That's the only reason I think they have wait-times, anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. ;)

Not only TL. Lots of sites unfortunately have similar methods for new users. I remember e.g. Filelist does that + both sister sites. More as well, just can't remember at the moment.

And it isn't just newly registered. it's upload amount + ratio that decides how long the wait time is or if it disappears.

maxitout
08-15-2008, 09:11 AM
I'll be a bit strange here, but I

LIKE:
- keep good ratio
- invites for VIP+
- promotion system
- exclusive rights

surprisingly all good trackers I am at have that and the bad ones don't.
Sure FreeLeech is always nice.

But generally - the stricter the rules, the better the tracker and I can
deal with that. In fact I want to, all other trackers aren't worth my time.

milkshake48
08-15-2008, 10:24 AM
I'm lolling how all these people are crying about staffers reading their pm's. Of course they're going to read them. They need to make sure that people aren't spamming other users, trying to pinch uploaders, promoting their own site, trading invites/accounts, blablabla.

No one gives a shit about your little pm's with other users about random stuff. No attention would be paid to those. Staffers look out for all the rule-breaking things going on within the pm's. It's a smart idea, and a nice feature to have.

Don't start crying that you got your account disabled because you were breaking the sites rules through the pm system. It's your own fault.

pharaoh
08-15-2008, 02:43 PM
the old don't mention or sites name or refer to us as ******. like it helps not identify who they are. if we mention the site we can't mention haven't we already mentioned it!!! for example what's wheel mods, the rabbit, and the clover??? (not that all these sites have these rules) it's an example of trying to use another name to hide the true name of the site. like it helps. i guess the cops and etc. are like the cops on dukes of hazard. not to mention putting these sites on the highest level possible doesn't help with the big secret either. funny shit!!! how did the human race manage to survive???

pone44
08-19-2008, 02:07 AM
Getting disabled for inactivity when you are having internet issues!

NA_Magus
08-19-2008, 02:29 AM
TL has what I like to call the 'trap' wait times. All newly registered users are stuck with a 48 hour wait time for all newly uploaded torrents. Users may:

1) Get tired of waiting, and look for another option.
2) Start downloading older stuff, that doesn't have many leechers, and bury themselves in a ratio hole.

TL of course has a solution for both of those: Pay2Leech VIP! That's the only reason I think they have wait-times, anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. ;)

Seriously? Are people just getting retarded enough not to seed for a few days at most on a home connection to get rid of the wait time?

CraigT92
08-19-2008, 02:35 AM
Traders

OTO
08-19-2008, 06:53 AM
Traders
What traders? :huh:

aysomc
08-19-2008, 02:17 PM
TL has what I like to call the 'trap' wait times. All newly registered users are stuck with a 48 hour wait time for all newly uploaded torrents. Users may:

1) Get tired of waiting, and look for another option.
2) Start downloading older stuff, that doesn't have many leechers, and bury themselves in a ratio hole.

TL of course has a solution for both of those: Pay2Leech VIP! That's the only reason I think they have wait-times, anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. ;)Seriously? Are people just getting retarded enough not to seed for a few days at most on a home connection to get rid of the wait time?

a lot of people do it wrong, instead of grabbing files from elsewhere and then seeding at TL(which btw when you do this you can seed even with a wait time, you just cant dl). when i signed up a couple days ago the first thing i did was look for packs already on the box im using and i found one that was brand new, seeded over 150 GB's before even downloading anything. its just the new dumb users who grab big old packs because they look like they have good leechers due to partial seeders that get in a lot of ratio trouble.