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Benno
09-04-2003, 10:46 PM
What are KVCD and MVCD??

thanks

callum
09-04-2003, 11:42 PM
KVCD is a modification to the standard MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 GOP structure and Quantization Matrix. It enables you to create over 120 minutes of near DVD quality video, depending on your material, on a single 80 minute CD-R/CD-RW. We have published these specifications as KVCDx3, our official resolution, which produce 528x480 (NTSC) and 528x576 (PAL) MPEG-1 variable bit rate video, from 64Kbps to 3,000Kbps. Using a resolution of 352x240 (NTSC) or 352x288 (PAL), it's possible to encode video up to ~360 minutes of near VCD quality on a single 80 minute CD-R. The mpeg files created will play back in most modern standalone DVD players. You must burn the mpeg files as non-standard VCD with Nero or VCDEasy.
http://www.kvcd.net./

There quite easy to make by yourself, can be a bit time consuming though.
There are plenty of guides at www.kvcd.net.

mogadishu
09-04-2003, 11:48 PM
360 minutes? thats crazy, i gotta figure this out.

Benno
09-04-2003, 11:52 PM
So the quality of this is like SVCD or VCD not like DiVX?

mogadishu
09-05-2003, 12:04 AM
im trying to use tmpec, i got the newest to convert to kvcd, but it doesnt ahve the option. anyone know of any other apps that convert to kvcd?

mogadishu
09-05-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Benno@4 September 2003 - 18:52
So the quality of this is like SVCD or VCD not like DiVX?
yea.. svcd and vcds are about half the resolution of dvds.

TClite
09-05-2003, 12:07 AM
its not an option per say, its a template, search google for mvcd or kvcd tmpgenc templates....

callum
09-05-2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@5 September 2003 - 01:04
im trying to use tmpec, i got the newest to convert to kvcd, but it doesnt ahve the option. anyone know of any other apps that convert to kvcd?
TMPGEnc is what I use to convert to kvcd, you need the TMPGEnc templates for kvcd.
http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models

I'd say the quality is just as good as vcd, obviously it depends on the quality of the source file. The most I have tried to fit on one cd is about 130 minutes.

I also use virtualdub to extract the audio.
http://www.virtualdub.org/

You also need something to convert the wav to mp3. I use headac3he-0.23a.
http://darkav.de.vu/
Make sure to get all the .dll's for it.

The hardest part of making them is messing around with the CQ on TMPGEnc , to try and get the best quality and keep it to one disk. It just takes a bit of trial and error.

mogadishu
09-05-2003, 12:21 AM
eww.. this looks so complicated, ill wait for other people to do it lol and download it on irc.

callum
09-05-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@5 September 2003 - 01:21
eww.. this looks so complicated, ill wait for other people to do it lol and download it on irc.
It's easy once you get the hang of it, i've done two tonight.

mogadishu
09-05-2003, 12:26 AM
ugh, i got a 650mhz processor it will take to long..

callum
09-05-2003, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@5 September 2003 - 01:26
ugh, i got a 650mhz processor it will take to long..
Just a bit.
Takes me about 4 hours with a 2.4ghz processor.
If the movie is already an mpeg, it saves a lot of time.

mogadishu
09-05-2003, 12:31 AM
how long if say i have the file in vcd or svcd already?

callum
09-05-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by mogadishu@5 September 2003 - 01:31
how long if say i have the file in vcd or svcd already?
I would say it would take about the same lenght of time as it would to convert a avi to mpg. Maybe a bit longer.

Gre1
09-05-2003, 02:36 AM
And MVCD is just a german wanna-bee of kvcd

mogadishu
09-05-2003, 09:51 AM
how good is it compared to kvcd?

Gre1
09-05-2003, 01:42 PM
It's the same thing except it's german and they use the standard resolutions.