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Rat Faced
05-22-2009, 06:48 PM
I take it we're just gonna wait for all of the dirt to hit before we piss ourselves laughing at the Greedy, Hypocritical Bastards?

bigboab
05-22-2009, 07:18 PM
I take it we're just gonna wait for all of the dirt to hit before we piss ourselves laughing at the Greedy, Hypocritical Bastards?
It is just a smoke screen to stop you thinking how much the bankers have cost the country. All the money 'swindled' by the MP's would not add up to the pay off that Fred Goodwin got.:(

Rat Faced
05-26-2009, 03:27 PM
I wasn't talking about a serious debate about something we all knew (Politicians are generally corrupt and on the take).. just the general laughter at the sheer number that are so inept as to get caught through using their own legislation.

Barbarossa
05-26-2009, 03:31 PM
My favourite is the one about Alistair Darling claiming for an accountant to help with his tax returns. :happy:

LubTheStaringCat
05-26-2009, 04:38 PM
My favourite is the one about Alistair Darling claiming for an accountant to help with his tax returns. :happy:

I'd like to see someone shave those black eyebrows off Alistair Darling, replace them with remote control eyebrows.
So when someone say Alistair Darling they move up and down, or Is that a touch Monty Python

bigboab
05-26-2009, 06:55 PM
I like the one of the House Of Commons Barman saying " Come on you lot. have you no second homes to go to?":lol:

j2k4
05-28-2009, 08:12 PM
Ah, yer pols are a bunch of lightweights and you know it.

Our garden-variety Democrats and Republicans sneer; Nazi Pelosi probably couldn't find Blighty on a map.

You are lucky to live in Oldfloatyunsinkableland.

Rat Faced
05-29-2009, 12:10 AM
Ah Kev,

You miss the point.

American Politicians wear their price on their lapels, but the British Civil Service Code (which our Politicians are supposed to follow too, not just us plebs) states that we must not only be honest, but above suspicion. As Politicians in the world go, the British were considered almost sacrosanct and above reproach. One or Two getting caught in one scandel or another, obviously but in the main very Honest.

Of course they've been on the take for years.. but frankly, a couple of dodgy bus tickets would have taken them down once.

It's such a breath of fresh air when the Public see what the Civil Service has had to keep stum about for years...without one or more of us going to Jail as a result of it.

Whistle Blowing on the politicians is a risky business at best ;)

j2k4
05-29-2009, 01:28 AM
Ah Kev,

You miss the point.

American Politicians wear their price on their lapels, but the British Civil Service Code (which our Politicians are supposed to follow too, not just us plebs) states that we must not only be honest, but above suspicion. As Politicians in the world go, the British were considered almost sacrosanct and above reproach. One or Two getting caught in one scandel or another, obviously but in the main very Honest.

Of course they've been on the take for years.. but frankly, a couple of dodgy bus tickets would have taken them down once.

It's such a breath of fresh air when the Public see what the Civil Service has had to keep stum about for years...without one or more of us going to Jail as a result of it.

Whistle Blowing on the politicians is a risky business at best ;)

I miss the point?

Your pols are human like ours?

I remember a similar conversation about ole' Auntie Beeb...she was on the square because she was mandated to be.

A bit of a larf, and the same with your MPs.

That they could manage it so comprehensively (that is to say, without the price tags) is a tribute to overweening greed.

As to appearances before the world, western politicians aren't much different from the types permeating the ranks of the UN, whose machinations are legendary and legion.

I doubt they differentiate between American or British species.

Something Else
05-29-2009, 03:39 PM
I don't think the abuse of the possessive apostrophe was necessary. MPs. :eyebrows:

j2k4
05-29-2009, 10:42 PM
Abuse.

What abuse.

benchez' mum
05-30-2009, 02:21 PM
Technically they are MsP I suppose. Ministers of Parliament.

j2k4
05-30-2009, 06:58 PM
Sorry; didn't realize you were addressing Brother Rat.

Rat Faced
05-30-2009, 10:56 PM
They now recon that 325 MPs will have either quite or will lose there seats as a result of this, by the time of the next election.

Thats equivalent to half of Congress in the US.

Win

j2k4
05-30-2009, 11:52 PM
They now recon that 325 MPs will have either quite or will lose there seats as a result of this, by the time of the next election.

Thats equivalent to half of Congress in the US.

Win

Has anyone applied for a patent, then.

Rat Faced
06-02-2009, 07:35 PM
My favourite is the one about Alistair Darling claiming for an accountant to help with his tax returns. :happy:

He wasn't a qualified Accountant was he?

Equivalent of claiming money for some guy he met down the pub.

I'm guessing he's out on Friday :D

lynx
06-02-2009, 07:54 PM
Sounds Like Jacqui Smith will be gone too.

Still, if she's got nothing to hide, she's got nothing to fear. :unsure:

Rat Faced
06-02-2009, 10:33 PM
Sounds Like Jacqui Smith will be gone too.


Thank God.

Hypocritical bitch

j2k4
06-03-2009, 01:04 AM
Gee willikers, the way you talk.

She must be downright Bush-like, to inspire such contempt.

Barbarossa
06-03-2009, 08:40 AM
I have no confidence in the current parliament, no matter which party.

bigboab
06-03-2009, 06:39 PM
Proportional Representation is the answer. The Two party system with First Past The Post is not Democracy, it is hypocricy. As soon as PR is mentioned both main parties join together to condemn it. If that does not tell you something then you are a one party animal.

Rat Faced
06-03-2009, 07:18 PM
I agree.

No system is perfect, however the advantages outway the disadvantages IMHO.

This backwards and forwards between the 2 largest Parties is crap. Especially as they've virtually been the same for the last 12 years or so.

I like to have a choice.


And today.. Hazel Blears again shows she cares about her, her and her in that order. Local Government Minister quiting on eve of Local Elections... she's had weeks to quit or could have waited until she was sacked on Friday, but she decided to wait for the worst possible time for the country. Way to go..

Didn't have much respect for her, but she's managed to lower it anyway..

j2k4
06-06-2009, 06:24 PM
What are the citizenship requirements for MP.

I'm thinking of relocating.

bigboab
06-06-2009, 06:57 PM
What are the citizenship requirements for MP.

I'm thinking of relocating.

You would be wasting your time, you are too honest, sometimes wrong, yes, (aren't we all?) nevertheless honest. Sophistry would be unbecoming and sit heavy on your shoulders.:)

j2k4
06-06-2009, 11:25 PM
I thank you for your kind words, Bob, but beg to differ about my ever (ever) having been wrong about anything whatsoever.

I suppose I could earn the requisite contempt by being constantly unrepentant, insufferable, intractable and imperious?

bigboab
06-06-2009, 11:38 PM
I thank you for your kind words, Bob, but beg to differ about my ever (ever) having been wrong about anything whatsoever.

I suppose I could earn the requisite contempt by being constantly unrepentant, insufferable, intractable and imperious?

Brown is not for resigning so you will have to wait.:whistling

j2k4
06-07-2009, 02:45 PM
Drat.

It seems, though, that he will be forced out at some point.

Your thoughts?

Rat Faced
06-09-2009, 09:13 PM
Not until after the next General Election.

Not due to any sense of Patriotism or Loyalty from his MPs.

The ones that could possibly get the job wont stand, as it's virtually certain that they will lose the next election no matter what happens. They will not want to be associated with an election defeat, even if it wasn't their fault.

Mud Sticks, and stats show that it's much harder to get elected PM after you've already been defeated once.

The ones that are less known wouldn't get the requisit 70 Labour MPs support to mount a challenge.

We're stuck with him until he calls an election or he's forced too ie: May 2010

bigboab
06-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Drat.

It seems, though, that he will be forced out at some point.

Your thoughts?


It is not definite that they will lose the next election. The Conservatives don't have that big of a swing yet. Ironically it is the Scottish part of the Election that could cost him. Labout MP's replaced by Scottish Nationalists. If that does not happen then in order for Kev to be PM he will have to learn 'Och aye the noo, it's a braw bricht moon licht nicht the nicht aw richt'.:lol:

Rat Faced
06-09-2009, 09:56 PM
England, as always, is the Battleground they will be fighting for hardest, especially the Home Counties and London.

The problem they have as far as Westminster is concerned is that they have neglected their traditional supporters in favour of the South East for 10 years now.. They have no powerbase left in England.

They've already lost Scotland, however the SNP is at heart a Socialist Party, so they would probably back the Labour Party over the Tory's at Westminster.

They've probably lost Wales too, however even if they can get the Welsh voting for the Welsh Nationalists they'd get support in Westminster. The Torys won there in the Europe Elections because the 10 or so Torys in that entire country are the only ones that bothered voting :P

But isn't that the story all over Britain? About the same number of people voting for their Party as usual.. except the Labour lot.. they watched the telly instead, giving all the other parties increased percentages and hence more MEPs?