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abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 12:09 AM
I have a AOpen Gforce FX 5200 with a heatsink but no fan.
should i oc it? will it damage my comp at all?
my specs are:
P4 2.4 ghz
Intel 865APE 800 FSB
512 PC3200 DDR
GForce FX 5200 128mb

i pretty much no how to oc, just want to know if i need extra cooling, or the potential hazard it might cause to my PC.

thanks people.

and if u feel like answering this: i asked before bout ocing my cpu. do u think i need to get new cooling if i oc my P4 2.4 ghz just a little bit, to like 2.6 maybe


and, if i oc it, will it void my warranty? wat if i turn it back to original settings, will that void my warranty? how do the manufacture tell if i oced it?

bigdawgfoxx
10-04-2003, 01:03 AM
I know overclocking makes all warranties usless. How do you OC a graphics card? BIOS? is there any way to overclock a CPU without going through the bios? cuz my dell wont let me in it.

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 01:11 AM
yea, but is there anyone here who o/ced before? can anyone answer my questions?

Wolfmight
10-04-2003, 01:41 AM
Is it that Inno3D Geforce FX 5200? Cant o/c that version.. heard it will burn very easy.

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 01:55 AM
wat's inno supposed to be? this is AOpen, not sure if there is a difference. but i think it's oem, if that helps.

Somebody1234
10-04-2003, 02:57 AM
Why do you want to overclock it? Does it not perform well enough?

Those cards are great if you want to build silent or almost silent PC because there is no fan.

If you want to overclock it then at least put a fan on it. (You may loose some quietness.)

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 03:02 AM
well, hence my question. how far can i overclock so that i don't need extra cooling. and does it void the warranty if i revert the settings back to default?

Somebody1234
10-04-2003, 03:39 AM
My thoughts would be to not overclock it until you add extra cooling.

But you can try it. Just start with a small increase and check it with a benchmark like 3Dmark 2003 as you posted in another thread. Just be sure to watch for any distortions in the image and keep a close watch of how hot the card gets. Open the case and feel it with your hand to be sure it doesn't get too hot.

Don't push it too hard without extra cooling. In fact I still think you should add a fan before overclocking.

Edit: If you are really concerned about the warranty then don't overclock.

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 03:53 AM
ok, that leads to another question. i turn on the pc in the morning, after leaving it off the whole night, and i feel the heatsink and it burns my hand almost. at least 50-60 deg C. wtf? i just turn it on and it burns my hand. and it's not oced or anything. came right out of the box. wtf is happening? is it supposed to be that hot?. acutally, more like 60-70 deg C

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 03:55 AM
and do u think i should get better cooling if i plan to oc my cpu from like 2.4 to 2.6. very small compared to some ocers i know. do u think i need extra cooling? prob just rais the cpu clock by like 1-5 mhz. not very much.

Somebody1234
10-04-2003, 03:59 AM
Yeah, I would say that's normal. They run really hot (although I'm not there myself to feel it). :unsure: It's a cost cutting measure for them to not install a fan.

The best thing I can say is add a fan and be sure your case has good airflow if you want to overclock it.

L0rD_S0tH
10-04-2003, 04:08 AM
I OCed my fx5200 and am having no problems with it. It gets hot, but not enuff to fry it. I have pretty good airflow in my case, though, and a system exhaust fan in the side panel parellel to the AGP slot which helps vent hot air out of the case. I've had it OCed for a month now and have not had a single problem even while playing or after playing graphicaly intense games. I just increased the mem clock frquency a bit at a time and then bench marked it with 3dmark03 until i reached optimum levels without getting distortion or artifacts. I could only get my memory clock up to 451Mhz without running into problems. Increasing the core clock frequency is what'll really heat up the card. I'd recommend not going over 280 MHz with it. I got mine set at 279MHz.

DarthInsinuate
10-04-2003, 10:19 AM
you can o/c a little (increase about 20% i think) without extra cooling - manufacturers always put in a fairly large margin of error for clock speeds

there are plenty of guides on the net i recommend tweak3d (http://www.tweak3d.net)

something to remember though - room temperature affects the graphics card, so if its winter the card would go higher than in the summer

bigdawgfoxx
10-04-2003, 01:02 PM
Hey is there any way to over clock your processor WITHOUT going into the bios?

DarthInsinuate
10-04-2003, 01:09 PM
SoftFSB (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=434) - according to it's homepage it's no longer supported, also notice it doesn't say it supports XP, use at your own risk

bigdawgfoxx
10-04-2003, 01:47 PM
Thanx..it downloaded reg mechanic instead..o well...newayz have yall seen that new software by intel that ALLOWS you to overclock...seems awesome..neone else heard nething bout it

Wolfmight
10-04-2003, 02:33 PM
remember: overclocking doesnt make the card twice as fast.

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 03:46 PM
i'm not trying to double the power. just trying to make my 5200 into a 5600. according to extreme overclocking.com, it's very easy tweak and very simple. and another q: if i oc my cpu, from 2.4 to maybe 2.6, do i need extra cooling? i have a heatsink and fan from intel

DarthInsinuate
10-04-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@4 October 2003 - 14:33
remember: overclocking doesnt make the card twice as fast.
unless, maybe if you strapped a really big heat sink and an even bigger fan to it

http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/overclocking/tnt/Mvc-193f.jpg

but even then they only managed a 75% markup

http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/overcl.../tnt/index.html (http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/overclocking/tnt/index.html)

L0rD_S0tH
10-04-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@4 October 2003 - 07:47
Thanx..it downloaded reg mechanic instead..o well...newayz have yall seen that new software by intel that ALLOWS you to overclock...seems awesome..neone else heard nething bout it
Are you talking about the Intel® Desktop Control Center?


Intel Desktop Control Center (http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/software/dcc/index.htm)

abu_has_the_power
10-04-2003, 04:30 PM
how did he screw the 3 inch fan on the heatsink? there's no holes on the heatsink. he just drilled?