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imported_Black.Ops
10-10-2003, 07:22 PM
ASPIRE X-DREAMER CASE 350 WATT W/ WINDOW
[BLUE] 12" COLD CATHLOD NEON LIGHT SOUND ACTIVE
SONY DW-U10A DUAL FORMAT DVD-RW/DVD+RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE
AMD™ ATHLON™ 64 3200+ CPU CAG102
AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK + 3 EXTRA CASE FANS
1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM ATA 100 8MB Special Editon
Microsoft® INTERNET KEYBOARD
1024 MB PC2700 333MHz DDR MEMORY
(BLACK) ViewSonic® E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
GigaByte GA-K8N Pro nForce3 Chipset 800FSB AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,IEEE,&Audio
Logitech MX500
Microsoft® Windows® XP HOME EDITION
AC97 3D WAVE ON-BOARD SOUND CARD
ALTEC LANSING SELECT 251 5.1 SUBWOOFER SPEAKERS
STANDARD 2 USB PORTS + 2 EXTRA USB PORT CONNECTORS
ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI

its bout like $1700 USD , i got the cash and i know i gotta wait for the graphics, but what do you think so far? (it wil mostly be used for gamin...like cs and hl2(free copy :D) and stuf :)

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 09:43 PM
that's a shitty case. r u buying this or building it? i would get the xsuperalien thing. it looks like an alien on steriods man!!! and u should try a better psu, much better psu. try a 500 watt. no, u won't be using 500 watt, but at least you have the 500 watt capacity, so if u get better components, ur comp will suppor them. so far, ok, for 1700, it's a bit expensive. i can prob get all that for 1500 or less

Cygnuz-Y
10-10-2003, 10:03 PM
Stay away from onboard sound, buy a Soud Blaster, doesnt matter wich one but get a sound blaster!

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 10:09 PM
wat's wrong with onboard sound?

DarthInsinuate
10-10-2003, 10:14 PM
i think you might need to get DDR400, because the Athlon 64 has a 200mhz FSB

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 10:23 PM
r u buying this from ibuypower? i have a feeling those specs are copied from the ibuypower receipt thing. r u? cuz ibuypower is really good, they just expect u to be an idiot, so i would make sure u check ur comp after u get it. and watch out, use cpu-z to check if u get dual channel or single channel ram. many times they'll try to fool u and give u single channel. but overall, good prices. for ur monster, i would build it urself

bigdawgfoxx
10-10-2003, 11:29 PM
I like it alot....a looot. I would buy a sound card...Sound Blaster like cygunz said. Buy a nice case with better power supply...other then that i love it.

abu_has_the_power
10-10-2003, 11:59 PM
r u buying it from ibuypower?

imported_Black.Ops
10-11-2003, 12:14 AM
no its not from ibuypower, its a custom comp company and dont worry about that for now, its as cheap as can be. I too do not like the case and since i get it for free I am gonna just get a new one and you know. As for sound I do not care if it is onboard for now. and yes a faster ram would be good..but im on a budget :)

alot of the features will change when i get it.. and it will be cheaper..this was all just slapped togehter in like 2 secs i wasnt really thinking of what to really get.

http://www.dealsonic.com/poalalatxmid1.html is the case i first wanted becuase a friend showed it to me..i am trying to find something better thoguh

o and i will be upgrading to a 500w power supply anyway, i already have on on my toher comp which dont work n e more

Cygnuz-Y
10-11-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 22:09
wat's wrong with onboard sound?
Onboard sound takes resources from your mobo, if you want a high performance PC you need to have all apart, its just like onboard GFX card, t sucks and let me tell you YOU COULD NEVER GET THE SOUND QUALITY OF A SOUND BLASTER WITH ONBOARD SOUN NEVER

DarthInsinuate
10-11-2003, 11:06 AM
sound card - depends on how tight the budget is, hardward sound cards are fairly expensive, and they won't save you a massive amount of processing power like graphics cards
the benefits are 5.1 and fast music encoding

lynx
10-11-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Cygnuz-Y+11 October 2003 - 01:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cygnuz-Y @ 11 October 2003 - 01:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@10 October 2003 - 22:09
wat&#39;s wrong with onboard sound?
Onboard sound takes resources from your mobo, if you want a high performance PC you need to have all apart, its just like onboard GFX card, t sucks and let me tell you YOU COULD NEVER GET THE SOUND QUALITY OF A SOUND BLASTER WITH ONBOARD SOUN NEVER [/b][/quote]
I love hearing all this crap about 32-bit, 64-bit etc sound cards. Anyone got any 32 or 64-bit sounds? All the wav&#39;s I&#39;ve seen have been encoded at 16-bit (except for a few 8-bit ones), for the simple reason that you don&#39;t need much better than that for PERFECT sound reproduction. The only difference it makes is in the number of concurrent voices.

I used to have a Sound Blaster card, but my current motherboard has a sound processor built in, and the quality is just as good. But guess what, it is configured in Sound Blaster mode. Note that. Sound Blaster mode. Not Sound Blaster Emulation mode. Creative Labs licensed their technology to quite a few chip makers, so that in many cases the onboard sound processors are just as good as the original Sound Blaster cards. Creative Labs don&#39;t care, they get money for doing nothing.

These sound chips operate in exactly the same way as separate sound cards (I&#39;m not talking about midi cards now) so they do not take any additional resources from your motherboard or processor, in fact with the latest offerings being built directly into the South Bridge chip, they actually take less resources. The newest mobo&#39;s are also offering Dolby 5.1 sound quality - is anyone seriously suggesting that the Dolby name would be permitted to be used with inferior products?

DWk
10-11-2003, 01:28 PM
not to mention if the integrated on-board sound card IS sound blaster...

DWk

bigdawgfoxx
10-11-2003, 02:38 PM
What the hell is music encoding??? Converting a cd to MP3?? Whats ripping a DVD? people make it seem HARD..i would think there would be a prog that you could do all that in like 1 or 2 clicks...

clocker
10-11-2003, 03:13 PM
Black Ops,

Is this a preconfigured "custom" PC or do you get to spec it?

james_bond_rulez
10-11-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Black.Ops@10 October 2003 - 19:22
ASPIRE X-DREAMER CASE 350 WATT W/ WINDOW
[BLUE] 12" COLD CATHLOD NEON LIGHT SOUND ACTIVE
SONY DW-U10A DUAL FORMAT DVD-RW/DVD+RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE
AMD?ATHLON?64 3200+ CPU CAG102
AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK + 3 EXTRA CASE FANS
1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM ATA 100 8MB Special Editon
Microsoft?INTERNET KEYBOARD
1024 MB PC2700 333MHz DDR MEMORY
(BLACK) ViewSonic?E90FB 19 INCH .22H MM SVGA MONITOR
GigaByte GA-K8N Pro nForce3 Chipset 800FSB AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,IEEE,&Audio
Logitech MX500
Microsoft?Windows?XP HOME EDITION
AC97 3D WAVE ON-BOARD SOUND CARD
ALTEC LANSING SELECT 251 5.1 SUBWOOFER SPEAKERS
STANDARD 2 USB PORTS + 2 EXTRA USB PORT CONNECTORS
ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI

its bout like &#036;1700 USD , i got the cash and i know i gotta wait for the graphics, but what do you think so far? (it wil mostly be used for gamin...like cs and hl2(free copy :D) and stuf :)
my spec can KICK your spec&#39;s ASS

and i didn&#39;t spend over 1600 canadian dollars :lol: