Hard Drive Killer

[The Kiler]

Specifications:

SiS 650
Pentium 4 1.6 GHz
LG dvd-rom
5 Different Hard drives ruined
American Megatrend Bios
Windows XP professional edition
Windows XP Home edition
Windows ME Professional edition

WTF?!?!

This computer has destroyed the 5th hard drive. Here is a breifing.

Hard drive 1- (Western Digital) Killed by Counter-Strike (Model ak_47.gpl was modified since the engine start. Please run diagnostic tools for Hardware problems) After that happened I re-activiated Counter-Strike and I connect to the server but my map differs for some reason.... (I DON'T HACK!!)

Hard Drive 2- (Western Digital)Killed by Counter-Strike (Model mp5.mdl was modified since the engine start. Please run dianostic tools for Hard ware problems) After that I re-activated Counter-Strike and I reconnected to the server but my model differs for some reason.

Hard Drive 3- (Western Digital) Same same...

Hard Drive 4- (MaXtor) Contacted some Techie guys but no solution was found. This time it was killed after I defragmented the Hard drive and I restarted the computer. I formatted the Hard drive sucessfully and then I went to install windows again. I installed sucessfully and I went to play Warcraft III after that. Warcraft III froze and the Hard drive died again...

Hard Drive 5- (MaXtor) This time the hard drive died from installing VGA drivers. WTF? After installing VGA driver?&#33;? I went to Windows XP professional to format and reinstall the hard drive but where it says the partition it is replaced by <Setup cannot access this disk.> I click any key and a blue screen pops up, one that doesnt restart the computer. (WTF?&#33;&#33;? A blue screen in Windows XP setup&#33;?&#33;? WTF?&#33;?&#33;) Here is a destricption:

Problem has been detected and windows has been hut down to prevent damage to your computer.
If this is the first time you&#39;ve seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. If a driver is identified in the stop mesage, disable the driver updates. Try changing video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup options, and then select safe mode.

Techinical Information:
** Stop: 0X0000008E (0X0000005, 0XF9E41COB, OXF9A46800, 0X000000)

** setupdd.sys - Address F9E41C0B base at F9E19000. Datestamp 3b7d8507


All hard drives couldn&#39;t be detected by BIOS or couldn&#39;t run the OS. 1 Hard drive was repaired by myself on another computer and is now in use on another computer. The hard drive does not have any problem on that computer. Here is more detail.

Warcraft III- OpenGL mode
Counter-Strike- Software mode

Software installed (ALWAYS)
Windows (XP pro, XP home, and ME pro)
Drivers (Modem, LAN, VGA, etc)

Software installed (NOT always)
Norton Antivirus 2003
PC-Cillin 2000
Norton Systemworks 2003 Professional
Power DVD
ZoneAlarm 3.7 Professional
Norton Internet Securty 2003 Professional
(ALL came bundled with the motherboard, Amazing isn&#39;t it?)

Windows Updates are always installed and SP1 is installed after the drivers installation. I am suspecting the idiotic Video card. Since it was killed mostly after highly used amounts of Video card (Counter-Strike, Warcraft III, VGA driver installation) This is the worst computer ever. It can&#39;t just be bad luck, the other computers are on fine conditions.

When in Windows ME, the updates were installed and everything seemed fine until... I restarted the computer. After the restart the resolution was extremly low and Windows had a screen saying "Windows Registry is missing, Windows Registry must be rebuilt and the computer must be rebuilt and the computer must be restarted" This keeps popping up so... Dead..

Help me. This is very appreciated.

[TheFilePirater]

why dont u just get windows xp sp1 intergrated and formatt all those hdds, so they work

[The Kiler]

All Hard drives are dead...

2 are new and 3 are given.

Windows sp1 intergrated was already done on 2 hard drives.

[TheFilePirater]

are u postive their dead...when we think of dead...

we think...
wont turn on
old as fuck
wont turn on
been torn apart

u prolly think died...
windows dont load

be specifiec on wat u mean dead, like the hdd doesnt grind or wat?

[james_bond_rulez]

it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.

[Keikan]

I&#39;d gladly trade you my hd for a maxtor 80gb :)

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by Keikan@11 October 2003 - 02:51
I&#39;d gladly trade you my hd for a maxtor 80gb :)
i got 2 of em :D

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:49
it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.
Not the heat problem. Bios&#39;s Hardware checker log stated the highest temperature was 50C for processor and 40F for HDD.

[Keikan]

I reformated my hd so much it&#39;s still stable maybe you can get away from western and maxtor and find another brand

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by The Kiler+11 October 2003 - 02:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Kiler @ 11 October 2003 - 02:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:49
it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.
Not the heat problem. Bios&#39;s Hardware checker log stated the highest temperature was 50C for processor and 40F for HDD. [/b][/quote]
ok look, brand new hdds dont just DIE

either they&#39;ve been overheated or you smashed them against the wall

otherwise the problem is in software not hardware

[The Kiler]

I&#39;m using a new brand.. it died..

My mother board&#39;s spec and pic

http://www.pcchipsusa.com/prod-m935lu5.asp

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+10 October 2003 - 21:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 10 October 2003 - 21:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 02:52
<!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:49
it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.
Not the heat problem. Bios&#39;s Hardware checker log stated the highest temperature was 50C for processor and 40F for HDD.
ok look, brand new hdds dont just DIE

either they&#39;ve been overheated or you smashed them against the wall

otherwise the problem is in software not hardware [/b][/quote]
To me... The brand new hard drive died 4 weeks and when I was playing WarCraft III. The game froze and.... DEATH&#33;&#33;&#33; DEATH YOU HEAR ME?&#33;?

[james_bond_rulez]

ok look, your hdds are working fine

either your BIOS is not properly configured or you didn&#39;t set the master/slave switch on your hdd properly

either that or there is something wrong with your installation of your hdds

it has nothing to do with the stuff you played or installed

[Keikan]

Originally posted by The Kiler+10 October 2003 - 20:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Kiler @ 10 October 2003 - 20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:59

Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 02:52
<!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:49
it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.
Not the heat problem. Bios&#39;s Hardware checker log stated the highest temperature was 50C for processor and 40F for HDD.
ok look, brand new hdds dont just DIE

either they&#39;ve been overheated or you smashed them against the wall

otherwise the problem is in software not hardware
To me... The brand new hard drive died 4 weeks and when I was playing WarCraft III. The game froze and.... DEATH&#33;&#33;&#33; DEATH YOU HEAR ME?&#33;? [/b][/quote]
Just because a game freezes the hd an&#39;t dead

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 22:08
ok look, your hdds are working fine

either your BIOS is not properly configured or you didn&#39;t set the master/slave switch on your hdd properly

either that or there is something wrong with your installation of your hdds

it has nothing to do with the stuff you played or installed
BIOS is on factory default settings from the beginning. I am always on the MASTER switch of the jumper. The hard drives can not be read in any other computers.

[james_bond_rulez]

what os do you use?

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by Keikan+10 October 2003 - 22:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Keikan @ 10 October 2003 - 22:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by The Kiler@10 October 2003 - 20:05

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:59

Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 02:52
<!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:49
it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.
Not the heat problem. Bios&#39;s Hardware checker log stated the highest temperature was 50C for processor and 40F for HDD.
ok look, brand new hdds dont just DIE

either they&#39;ve been overheated or you smashed them against the wall

otherwise the problem is in software not hardware
To me... The brand new hard drive died 4 weeks and when I was playing WarCraft III. The game froze and.... DEATH&#33;&#33;&#33; DEATH YOU HEAR ME?&#33;?
Just because a game freezes the hd an&#39;t dead [/b][/quote]
I tested the HDD on another computer and the Hard drive is invalid. You can&#39;t format it or read it. Nothing. Diagnostic tools were run and it&#39;s corrupt. CORRUPT I TELL YA&#33;&#33;

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 22:10
what os do you use?
Read please&#33;&#33;

Windows ME professional, Windows XP professional, Windows XP home.

All were used&#33;&#33;

[james_bond_rulez]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 22:22
:lol: :lol: :lol:
????

[Virtualbody1234]

Listen, The Kiler, there are quite a few people here that tell you that your drives are not dead. You keep insisting that they are.

I will agree with people here and disagree with you. I believe that the drive are ok. The problem lies with you and your misunderstanding as to what the problem is and your unwillingness to listen to what people here are trying to tell you.

You have not even correctly told us how you came to the conclusion that the drives are dead. Did you run any diagnostics of any sort? If you did you didn&#39;t say so.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by The Kiler+10 October 2003 - 22:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Kiler @ 10 October 2003 - 22:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

[/b]

Listen, The Kiler, there are quite a few people here that tell you that your drives are not dead. You keep insisting that they are.

I will agree with people here and disagree with you. I believe that the drive are ok. The problem lies with you and your misunderstanding as to what the problem is and your unwillingness to listen to what people here are trying to tell you.

You have not even correctly told us how you came to the conclusion that the drives are dead. Did you run any diagnostics of any sort? If you did you didn&#39;t say so.

Sorry to burst your bubble but... I did say they were run


Originally posted by Keikan@10 October 2003 - 22:09

Originally posted by The Kiler@10 October 2003 - 20:05

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:59

Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 02:52
<!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 21:49
it&#39;s probably your computer

high temperatures are the real killers of hdds

check to see if your hdds are overheated.

ps they cannot operate above and beyond 60 degrees, inoperable above 70.
Not the heat problem. Bios&#39;s Hardware checker log stated the highest temperature was 50C for processor and 40F for HDD.
ok look, brand new hdds dont just DIE

either they&#39;ve been overheated or you smashed them against the wall

otherwise the problem is in software not hardware
To me... The brand new hard drive died 4 weeks and when I was playing WarCraft III. The game froze and.... DEATH&#33;&#33;&#33; DEATH YOU HEAR ME?&#33;?
Just because a game freezes the hd an&#39;t dead [/quote]
I tested the HDD on another computer and the Hard drive is invalid. You can&#39;t format it or read it. Nothing. Diagnostic tools were run and it&#39;s corrupt. CORRUPT I TELL YA&#33;&#33;

[james_bond_rulez]

well if you claim your hdds are new.. i am sure it&#39;s still under warrenty.

take it back for a new one... or all of them for that matter.

easier on everybody <_<

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@10 October 2003 - 23:29
well if you claim your hdds are new.. i am sure it&#39;s still under warrenty.

take it back for a new one... or all of them for that matter.

easier on everybody <_<
Sorry... but I have an extra hard drive and I don&#39;t want that one to die too

[zapjb]

Just had a problem with an RMA&#39;d HDD. Thought they sent me a bad one.

I&#39;d been told before my setup on my IDE cables was wrong. But it always worked before. I had as master on the primary IDE my HDD & as slave on the primary IDE I had my CDROM. All alone on the secondary IDE was my CDRW as master.

Now (so far) everything including ghosted HDD are working. On the primary IDE is my HDD as master alone. On the secondary IDE is my CDRW as master & my CDROM as slave. Have used CDROM & CDRW in this config all is good.

What is your primary & secondary IDE setup?

[learn350]

:huh: all of that software came bundled with it? look at all of the virus software you got with this was all of that antivirus software already in your motherboard :unsure:

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by zapjb@11 October 2003 - 00:31
Just had a problem with an RMA&#39;d HDD. Thought they sent me a bad one.

I&#39;d been told before my setup on my IDE cables was wrong. But it always worked before. I had as master on the primary IDE my HDD & as slave on the primary IDE I had my CDROM. All alone on the secondary IDE was my CDRW as master.

Now (so far) everything including ghosted HDD are working. On the primary IDE is my HDD as master alone. On the secondary IDE is my CDRW as master & my CDROM as slave. Have used CDROM & CDRW in this config all is good.

What is your primary & secondary IDE setup?
I have 2 IDE cables. I tested both and the harddives still died. 1 IDE made the BIOS detection slower. Right now, I&#39;m such an idiot. I have to plug in the floppy drive.


My new theory is that BIOS is corrupt and I have to flash it. Wish me luck&#33;

[Virtualbody1234]

Good luck.

Replace the cables. Forget about testing them.

Try the "CS" Cable Select position for the jumpers. Just connect one drive all by itself on the end IDE connector to make it master. Restart your computer and go into the CMOS setup find &#39;drive detection&#39; and use that.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Actually, Learn350 might have a good point. I&#39;m not sure that you could get a virus stored in your motherboard, or maybe it has corrupted your ram&#33; Everytime you put a new harddrive in it, the virus is still there in the mobo or ram?..?? Seems possible to me. Theres no way that games or whatever is messing up all of your hardrives...no way.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 02:18
Problem has been detected and windows has been hut down to prevent damage to your computer.
If this is the first time you&#39;ve seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. If a driver is identified in the stop mesage, disable the driver updates. Try changing video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup options, and then select safe mode.

Techinical Information:
** Stop: 0X0000008E (0X0000005, 0XF9E41COB, OXF9A46800, 0X000000)

** setupdd.sys - Address F9E41C0B base at F9E19000. Datestamp 3b7d8507



Hmmm, I have also had this blue screen at start up. It happend when I put a PC100 and a PC133 ram stick in there...they were not compatible together. Maybe something isnt compatible? Thats what mine was.

[zapjb]

The Kiler Posted on 11 October 2003 - 08:34
I have 2 IDE cables. I tested both and the harddives still died. 1 IDE made the BIOS detection slower. Right now, I&#39;m such an idiot. I have to plug in the floppy drive.

That&#39;s NOT what I meant. What is the master on your primary IDE? What is the slave on your primary IDE? What is the master on your secondary IDE? What is the slave on your secondary IDE?

[Wolfmight]

get a new mobo and stuff.. somethins zapp"in them

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by zapjb@11 October 2003 - 09:37

The Kiler Posted on 11 October 2003 - 08:34
I have 2 IDE cables. I tested both and the harddives still died. 1 IDE made the BIOS detection slower. Right now, I&#39;m such an idiot. I have to plug in the floppy drive.

That&#39;s NOT what I meant. What is the master on your primary IDE? What is the slave on your primary IDE? What is the master on your secondary IDE? What is the slave on your secondary IDE?
I know what you mean. I tried all the ways. Secondary for CD-ROM and Primary for HDD. Windows crashes...

[zapjb]

OK if you fix this. Post the solution. GL.

[johnboy27]

Originally posted by Wolfmight@11 October 2003 - 17:15
get a new mobo and stuff.. somethins zapp"in them
Good idea.I have heard nothing but bad comments on these PCchips boards (formerly PCwave). I suppose you can&#39;t expect too much when you pay less than 100 bucks canadian for a board with "everything " integrated (CPU,video card,lan,modem,sound). All in all I&#39;d have to say you have a problem with the board or something other than the drives themselves. I have owned about ten hard drives and have yet to kill one.

[The Kiler]

I&#39;m on hard drive number 6... See how long this lasts.

[Pho3niX]

hmm you said window crashed ... this is a good sign ;) actually it prove the hard drive is not totaly death ... it can read some information but then what&#39;s needed to continue booting is corrupt.

A hard drive can be *death* at many diferent places maybe some sector are corrupt, the MBR (MASTER BOOT RECORD) is corrupt or even critical file system information are corrupt (the File Alocation Table on fat16,32 volume or the equivalent i cant remember the name on NTFS)

if such a thing happen there will be utility to ban those sector on the hardrive surface so no file are written on it ... you migth at the worst lost one GB (that&#39;s REALLY A WORST CASE AS EACH SECTOR ARE LIKE 5ko)

the only thing that cannot be corected is actual physical damage to the pin (the little thing that read the HD surface ) or other electric conponment... this is most likely impossible under normal HD condition ...

then came the fact that so much hard drive *died* on this machine .... if you consider that a death hard drive is an hardrive that make window crashes then i&#39;ll quote one of my pal msn nick

"If only Billy had a buck for each time wind0z crashes.... oh wait he does "

i had 6 blue screen of death in half an hours trying to install and hp all in one printer under xp :S with alwais usefull error report such as IRCL_NOT_GREATER_OR_EQUAL


My point is there is so much thing that can crash window .... maybee your hardrive were 100% ok but window crashed becauz of a complete deferent reason and when crashing it corrupted your hard drive


Now the real question is do you wish to be helped or you only there to whine ... as long as you stick to your point of my hard drive are death and we cant recover them ... then you wont be able to recover them for sure


Now you might be rigth ... your computer migth be an *HARD DRIVE KILLER* however its very not probable that your hard drive are not recoverable ... try changing your ram and flashing your bios if he&#39;s upgradable

NOW from the description of your problem i can see you are more from a gamer than a programer you migth not bother to check your harddrive becauz you dont know about hard drive checker and such

you lucky .. a while ago i discovered the world of data recovery ... or how to pack the most expensive program on a cd

I&#39;go check fro some software that can help you and hopefully provide a direct download link if you wish to cooperate ;)

[johnboy27]

When your western digital drives died ,did you go to their website and download their different utilities for their drives? There is one they have that will write zero&#39;s on the whole drive so as to completely wipe everything on it,not just format it I mean totally remove everything even the boot sector.I had an old western digital drive that had smart technology and when I booted my comp it kept telling me on my statup screen that the drive was going to die.I down loaded that program and ran it and then reinstalled windows and that drive is still running to this day (2 years later).
So basically what people are trying to tell you here is that the drive may not be completely dead there just may be something wrong with it that is making it hard for you to access the data.
Did you try setting them up as slaves in another computer and seeing if you could access them as a slave drive?

[The Kiler]

Harddrive 6 is now dead.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by Pho3niX@12 October 2003 - 19:37
hmm you said window crashed ... this is a good sign ;) actually it prove the hard drive is not totaly death ... it can read some information but then what&#39;s needed to continue booting is corrupt.

A hard drive can be *death* at many diferent places maybe some sector are corrupt, the MBR (MASTER BOOT RECORD) is corrupt or even critical file system information are corrupt (the File Alocation Table on fat16,32 volume or the equivalent i cant remember the name on NTFS)

if such a thing happen there will be utility to ban those sector on the hardrive surface so no file are written on it ... you migth at the worst lost one GB (that&#39;s REALLY A WORST CASE AS EACH SECTOR ARE LIKE 5ko)

the only thing that cannot be corected is actual physical damage to the pin (the little thing that read the HD surface ) or other electric conponment... this is most likely impossible under normal HD condition ...

then came the fact that so much hard drive *died* on this machine .... if you consider that a death hard drive is an hardrive that make window crashes then i&#39;ll quote one of my pal msn nick

"If only Billy had a buck for each time wind0z crashes.... oh wait he does "

i had 6 blue screen of death in half an hours trying to install and hp all in one printer under xp :S with alwais usefull error report such as IRCL_NOT_GREATER_OR_EQUAL


My point is there is so much thing that can crash window .... maybee your hardrive were 100% ok but window crashed becauz of a complete deferent reason and when crashing it corrupted your hard drive


Now the real question is do you wish to be helped or you only there to whine ... as long as you stick to your point of my hard drive are death and we cant recover them ... then you wont be able to recover them for sure


Now you might be rigth ... your computer migth be an *HARD DRIVE KILLER* however its very not probable that your hard drive are not recoverable ... try changing your ram and flashing your bios if he&#39;s upgradable

NOW from the description of your problem i can see you are more from a gamer than a programer you migth not bother to check your harddrive becauz you dont know about hard drive checker and such

you lucky .. a while ago i discovered the world of data recovery ... or how to pack the most expensive program on a cd

I&#39;go check fro some software that can help you and hopefully provide a direct download link if you wish to cooperate ;)
Windows XP setup crashed. Not windows.

[Mik3ll]

Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
what were you doing on the computer when it crashed?

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
lol - this is not possible.

a virus cannot be stored in RAM, cuz ram doesn&#39;t store information permanently. nor is there a place 2 store on mobo.

when these hard drives "die" - r they clunking or anything when the pc tries 2 access them like during POST?

in bios, r they detected? when using FDISK, can u access them?

no way did a puter kill 6 hard drives&#33;

[Mik3ll]

are you installing these yourself? or did you have any of them professionally installed?

[lynx]

I think we should consider this thread dead if he is not willing to give us some actual facts.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+13 October 2003 - 16:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 13 October 2003 - 16:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
lol - this is not possible.

a virus cannot be stored in RAM, cuz ram doesn&#39;t store information permanently. nor is there a place 2 store on mobo.

when these hard drives "die" - r they clunking or anything when the pc tries 2 access them like during POST?

in bios, r they detected? when using FDISK, can u access them?

no way did a puter kill 6 hard drives&#33; [/b][/quote]
POST acts normal
Bios is UPDATED
Harddrive SOMETIMES is detected and somtimes is detected as Å Å Å Å Å Å Å .
Fdisk says "Specified Hard disk can not be opened, No disk or disk is invalid."

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by Mik3ll@13 October 2003 - 17:05
are you installing these yourself? or did you have any of them professionally installed?
ALL is installed by myself.

I jumper according to website and sticker. I connect with IDE cable and I plug in power. I screw on the HDD and on goes the computer. Simple.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 23:42
POST acts normal
Bios is UPDATED
Harddrive SOMETIMES is detected and somtimes is detected as Å Å Å Å Å Å Å .
Fdisk says "Specified Hard disk can not be opened, No disk or disk is invalid."
dude - that&#39;s messed. get new mobo - cheaper than a hd anyway&#33;

have u tested these "dead" hd&#39;s in any other puter?

[AndrewBarker]

If your HDDs are truly dying, i.e will not reformat in another machine. I would suggest your Power Supply is probably up the creek.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by AndrewBarker@14 October 2003 - 00:35
If your HDDs are truly dying, i.e will not reformat in another machine. I would suggest your Power Supply is probably up the creek.
i would guess p.s. if the hard drives were clunking - since a bad p.s. would give 2 much and 2 little power to the hd. he hasn&#39;t mentioned clunking - but good test 2 use in another puter.

[The Kiler]

This is the information on the "dead" hard drive. This HDD is on another computer.


ATA Device Properties
Model ID MDT MD200EB-11CSF0
Serial Number MDT-PMAAV2898313
Revision 04.01B04
Parameters 38792 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 39102336
Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 40
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Unformatted Capacity 22375 MB

ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Not Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Not Supported


Disk 0
Type: Uknown
Status: Unreadable
Partition Style: Not applicable
Capactiy: 0MB

[johnboy27]

I have a problem with my primary IDE channel on my mobo right now.Here are my symptoms.
1-some times my BIOS does not detect my hard drive
2-sometimes while my BIOS is detecting my hard drive it freezes and displays a bunch of weird characters
3-sometimes the computer crashes
I know this is the problem with mine as the manufacturer has said so and the board will be RMA&#39;d in the next week.
Maybe you have the same problem.There is no way you have gone threw 6 hard drives unless you are either kicking the shit outta your computer or you "REALLY" have no clue what you are doing when working on your computer.

[sparsely]

/me thinks the culprit is this:


http://www.pcchipsusa.com/images/m935almu.gif

dodgy mobo

[lynx]

Originally posted by The Kiler@14 October 2003 - 02:54
This is the information on the "dead" hard drive. This HDD is on another computer.


ATA Device Properties
Model ID MDT MD200EB-11CSF0
Serial Number MDT-PMAAV2898313
Revision 04.01B04
Parameters 38792 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 39102336
Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 40
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Unformatted Capacity 22375 MB

ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Not Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Not Supported


Disk 0
Type: Uknown
Status: Unreadable
Partition Style: Not applicable
Capactiy: 0MB
So you have an disk with a bad partition table - is this what you call dead?

[boyzeee]

download discwizard 2003 from seagate, its free and will diagnose,re-format, and set up all drives. I repair pcs and this piece of software has accessed so called "dead" hardrives for me on a few occasions. it will even access an ntfs drive put in a fat32(win98 etc) based pc when put in as a slave. you have the option of making floppys to access in dos if req. it wont fix actual "dead" drives but may help you format and get the drive to be seen. also a note on ya mobo> have you installed a separate graphics card or sound card? if so you must disable the onboard built in features otherwise you will get conflicts. update ya bios with the latest version and maybe change ya battery if it quite an old board. do you have any beeps when you boot ie more than 1&#33;? also try setting the mobo&#39;s settings to failsafe when installing xp and leave out things like modems and tv cards til it has setup and install them afterwards as these can give you blue screens in setup. hope this helps ;)

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by lynx+14 October 2003 - 06:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 14 October 2003 - 06:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Kiler@14 October 2003 - 02:54
This is the information on the "dead" hard drive. This HDD is on another computer.


ATA Device Properties
Model ID MDT MD200EB-11CSF0
Serial Number MDT-PMAAV2898313
Revision 04.01B04
Parameters 38792 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 39102336
Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 40
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Unformatted Capacity 22375 MB

ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Not Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Not Supported


Disk 0
Type: Uknown
Status: Unreadable
Partition Style: Not applicable
Capactiy: 0MB
So you have an disk with a bad partition table - is this what you call dead? [/b][/quote]
Partition Magic called it bad. :P

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by boyzeee@14 October 2003 - 08:40
download discwizard 2003 from seagate, its free and will diagnose,re-format, and set up all drives. I repair pcs and this piece of software has accessed so called "dead" hardrives for me on a few occasions. it will even access an ntfs drive put in a fat32(win98 etc) based pc when put in as a slave. you have the option of making floppys to access in dos if req. it wont fix actual "dead" drives but may help you format and get the drive to be seen. also a note on ya mobo> have you installed a separate graphics card or sound card? if so you must disable the onboard built in features otherwise you will get conflicts. update ya bios with the latest version and maybe change ya battery if it quite an old board. do you have any beeps when you boot ie more than 1&#33;? also try setting the mobo&#39;s settings to failsafe when installing xp and leave out things like modems and tv cards til it has setup and install them afterwards as these can give you blue screens in setup. hope this helps ;)
I&#39;ll try. I&#39;ve been looking for HDD diagnostics for quite a while now.

[johnboy27]

maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.

[clocker]

Originally posted by johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?

[leonidas]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hey the killer, so you didn&#39;t get rid of the green dwarfs ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I told you, buy a pitbul and starve him. ;)

[lynx]

@Kiler, if you PM me with your email address, I will send you a little utility which will clear bad partition tables. It restores the first 128 sectors to factory state, which is all you need. You will need a Win98 type boot disk to run it.

If you are coming up with these problems every time you try to install XP, could I suggest you may have a faulty XP disk. It is not unknown for dodgy sources to infect these disks, or simply have bad areas.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by lynx@14 October 2003 - 12:38
@Kiler, if you PM me with your email address, I will send you a little utility which will clear bad partition tables. It restores the first 128 sectors to factory state, which is all you need. You will need a Win98 type boot disk to run it.

If you are coming up with these problems every time you try to install XP, could I suggest you may have a faulty XP disk. It is not unknown for dodgy sources to infect these disks, or simply have bad areas.
Xp cd is perfect. I installed the copy on all my other computers. BTW, remember I tried ME, and XP home. I will PM you my email. Get back to me ASAP.

[johnboy27]

Originally posted by clocker+14 October 2003 - 16:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 14 October 2003 - 16:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27? [/b][/quote]
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I&#39;ll have to remember to paste.LOL

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by johnboy27+15 October 2003 - 00:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johnboy27 @ 15 October 2003 - 00:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 16:03
<!--QuoteBegin-johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I&#39;ll have to remember to paste.LOL [/b][/quote]
The utility don&#39;t work...

[safrole]

ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported

Has SMART ever reported an error messages at start up? If so, do you remember any of the message specifics?

Format those dead Maxtor drives; I would recommend the low level format utility from Maxtor&#39;s website, something like 40 kb. It might work with Western Digital drives, never tried it. Maxtor also provides a diagnostic utility. If the low level utility can&#39;t complete the wipe, then I don&#39;t know what to tell you, but it does need to format the entire drive. There is an existing debug script to clear hd partition tables. I guess that&#39;s only good for DOS-windows though, probably not what you need. There is definetly a solution to your problems. If all else fails....
get a new mobo and stuff.. somethins zapp"in them.....then try to get the drives back.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by safrole@15 October 2003 - 19:06

ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported

Has SMART ever reported an error messages at start up? If so, do you remember any of the message specifics?

Format those dead Maxtor drives; I would recommend the low level format utility from Maxtor&#39;s website, something like 40 kb. It might work with Western Digital drives, never tried it. Maxtor also provides a diagnostic utility. If the low level utility can&#39;t complete the wipe, then I don&#39;t know what to tell you, but it does need to format the entire drive. There is an existing debug script to clear hd partition tables. I guess that&#39;s only good for DOS-windows though, probably not what you need. There is definetly a solution to your problems. If all else fails....
get a new mobo and stuff.. somethins zapp"in them.....then try to get the drives back.
I need to get those hard drives fixed. Give me good software. Better be one i can find ;)

[zapjb]

The Kiler Posted on 15 October 2003 - 22:35

.....Give me good software. Better be one i can find ;)



Are you threatening people who are volunteering their help? That&#39;s nuts.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by zapjb@15 October 2003 - 22:46

The Kiler Posted on 15 October 2003 - 22:35

.....Give me good software. Better be one i can find ;)



Are you threatening people who are volunteering their help? That&#39;s nuts.
I&#39;m not threating. I&#39;m just saying 6 hard drives is not good.

[safrole]

Kiler, I went back and read your first post, then jumped to the post with more specifics listed. When the problem originated, SMART would have reported any hd errors. If there was no SMART message, then it&#39;s safe to say the problem is somewhere on your motherboard or video card; firmware. The bios is confusing the os, cmos is conflicting the hd, video cmos is contradicting bios settings, etc. There&#39;s no way for me or anybody at this forum to know for sure what&#39;s going on with it.

The software I suggested can be found from the hd oem websites. LLF utility for a Maxtor drive, Maxtor&#39;s website. I think Western Digital has their own utilities but I&#39;m not sure because I have Quantum(Maxtor utilites work for certain Quantums). I definitely wouldn&#39;t spend any more money on hd&#39;s, I would be finding deals on a motherboard. I would also try another os besides xp or me-2000, or different copies of the same os&#39;s. I have 98, linux, and freebsd. They all have one thing in common, operating systems designed to process fundamental tasks without any point-click gui.

Lot&#39;s of variables, lot&#39;s of choices, so good luck with it.

[Mavol]

Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 04:18
Techinical Information:
** Stop: 0X0000008E (0X0000005, 0XF9E41COB, OXF9A46800, 0X000000)

** setupdd.sys - Address F9E41C0B base at F9E19000. Datestamp 3b7d8507
hi, just wanna say that i have been having these kind of problems too. With an error message like the one you had when i got my pc started again. heres my post: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=74598

doesnt really mean anything but i can say that i also have a sis640 card and western digital hhd. my post isnt the first prob ive run into with this comp which is comp related. just asking if this i just by chance

[lynx]

Originally posted by The Kiler+15 October 2003 - 22:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Kiler @ 15 October 2003 - 22:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by johnboy27@15 October 2003 - 00:43

Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 16:03
<!--QuoteBegin-johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I&#39;ll have to remember to paste.LOL
The utility don&#39;t work... [/b][/quote]
Sure, I&#39;m going to waste my time sending you a utility that doesn&#39;t work.

It works for me, it works for other people I&#39;ve sent it to, but you can&#39;t figure out how to use it, so it doesn&#39;t work. Which do you think is faulty, the utility or you?

If that&#39;s your attitude, don&#39;t bother wasting our time any further.

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by lynx+17 October 2003 - 07:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 17 October 2003 - 07:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by The Kiler@15 October 2003 - 22:18

Originally posted by johnboy27@15 October 2003 - 00:43

Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 16:03
<!--QuoteBegin-johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I&#39;ll have to remember to paste.LOL
The utility don&#39;t work...
Sure, I&#39;m going to waste my time sending you a utility that doesn&#39;t work.

It works for me, it works for other people I&#39;ve sent it to, but you can&#39;t figure out how to use it, so it doesn&#39;t work. Which do you think is faulty, the utility or you?

If that&#39;s your attitude, don&#39;t bother wasting our time any further. [/b][/quote]
Ok, I copied the program to my start-up disk and i boot from it.

It loads all the things and finally lets me type.

I type zap 1. and then y. It says Zap complete and I restart the computer and then nothing happens.

[lynx]

Well, if it is your primary master you should be typing "zap 0". Which is what I told you. But if it is your primary slave, and it is not giving you an error message, then your drive is not dead, and the utility is working.

It merely sets it back to factory default state. You can then start partitioning and formatting it.

Did you expect it would have somehow installed XP in 2 seconds?

[The Kiler]

Originally posted by lynx@17 October 2003 - 10:49
Well, if it is your primary master you should be typing "zap 0". Which is what I told you. But if it is your primary slave, and it is not giving you an error message, then your drive is not dead, and the utility is working.

It merely sets it back to factory default state. You can then start partitioning and formatting it.

Did you expect it would have somehow installed XP in 2 seconds?
I will try to install windows xp on it.