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A recent Neilson survey of the watchers of prime-time cable news reveals that Fox News leads all other cable networks with 51% of available viewership, with CNN in second place at 27%.
The rest (MSNBC, CNBC, Bloomberg, etc.) draw negligible numbers.
This means that more adults age 18-49 watch the "Cartoon Channel" than CNN. B)
J'Pol
10-11-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@11 October 2003 - 21:41
A recent Neilson survey of the watchers of prime-time cable news reveals that Fox News leads all other cable networks with 51% of available viewership, with CNN in second place at 27%.
The rest (MSNBC, CNBC, Bloomberg, etc.) draw negligible numbers.
This means that more adults age 18-49 watch the "Cartoon Channel" than CNN. B)
And this surprises you how.
Biggles
10-11-2003, 10:23 PM
I think that means Fox News and the Cartoon Channel are the one and the same. :)
I posted it 'cuz I knew you two heavyweights would weigh in without delay. ;)
Actually, that's about as provocative as I'm capable of being.
Pretty sad, huh? :D
Biggles
10-12-2003, 10:29 PM
J2k4
:D
I am sure you could dig deeper if pushed.
If there are any Jimmy Carter fans out there they might think you already have (although if what you say is true we are not going to be trampled by a stampede to defend him).
Originally posted by Biggles@12 October 2003 - 17:29
J2k4
:D
I am sure you could dig deeper if pushed.
If there are any Jimmy Carter fans out there they might think you already have (although if what you say is true we are not going to be trampled by a stampede to defend him).
Biggles-
True, and, well......
True--
I was deeply saddened to see him awarded the Nobel; the honor has been cheapened in the last decade or so, but just the same-JIMMY CARTER?!!???
And then, this guy, who couldn't even manage to land a helicopter in the desert to rescue the Iranian hostages without causing a disaster, decides he just can't deprive the American people of the awesome gift he has for analysis of foreign affairs and matters military in order that he might criticize George Bush's policy in Iraq?
I think I need a blood-pressure pill...... :angry:
Rat Faced
10-12-2003, 11:04 PM
Im pretty sure Jimmy Carter wasnt piloting that helicopter.. :huh: :blink:
Billy_Dean
10-13-2003, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@13 October 2003 - 08:04
Im pretty sure Jimmy Carter wasnt piloting that helicopter.. :huh: :blink:
After that debacle, and a couple of others, the SAS started training US special forces.
:)
Originally posted by Rat Faced@12 October 2003 - 18:04
Im pretty sure Jimmy Carter wasnt piloting that helicopter.. :huh: :blink:
Yes, and because he hadn't the ability; his underwhelming sense of fairness demanded those in the cockpit demonstrate that same degree of ineptness he would have, had he actually been there.
i like msnbc.
they get the facts, and they are always the first to announce something.
I also like their investigative show.
Originally posted by kAb@14 October 2003 - 00:23
i like msnbc.
they get the facts, and they are always the first to announce something.
I also like their investigative show.
Ah, kAb-
I had such high hopes for you. :D
Originally posted by j2k4+13 October 2003 - 21:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 13 October 2003 - 21:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@14 October 2003 - 00:23
i like msnbc.
they get the facts, and they are always the first to announce something.
I also like their investigative show.
Ah, kAb-
I had such high hopes for you. :D [/b][/quote]
hey!
Whats wrong with msnbc? :lol:
I may be conservative, but i'm not republican. :P
clocker
10-14-2003, 05:48 AM
J2,
All your survey proves is that Fox has found the ideal ratio of babes and blowhards to appeal to the great unwashed trailor trash mob.
They only watch Fox News when there's a lull on QVC.
Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 00:48
J2,
All your survey proves is that Fox has found the ideal ratio of babes and blowhards to appeal to the great unwashed trailor trash mob.
They only watch Fox News when there's a lull on QVC.
My survey would be biased, Clocker. :lol:
kAb-
I watch MSNBC from time to time.
I consider it to be ten times the network CNN is-sorry that isn't much, but........ :P
clocker
10-14-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@13 October 2003 - 22:57
My survey would be biased, Clocker. :lol:
I assume that as a given, j2. ;)
Originally posted by clocker+14 October 2003 - 01:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 14 October 2003 - 01:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@13 October 2003 - 22:57
My survey would be biased, Clocker. :lol:
I assume that as a given, j2. ;) [/b][/quote]
I have some reading recommendations for you , Clocker. :)
clocker
10-14-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@14 October 2003 - 07:22
I have some reading recommendations for you , Clocker. :)
Oh goodie!
Are there any dogs?
I love stories with animals. :P
Originally posted by clocker+14 October 2003 - 10:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 14 October 2003 - 10:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@14 October 2003 - 07:22
I have some reading recommendations for you , Clocker. :)
Oh goodie!
Are there any dogs?
I love stories with animals. :P [/b][/quote]
Sorry, none of that. :D
chinook_apache
10-18-2003, 08:13 PM
LOL fox news probably the most patriotic, naive up americas asrse so much news channel here on satellite in the UK. it makes me laugh whenever i switch over to it. its basically just the "war on terror". you like here the word "terror" and "terrorist" in every sentence. makes me think fox news only know two syllables. LOL dont watch the news channel its full of propaganda and they spoon feed you into thinking its true.
Originally posted by chinook_apache@18 October 2003 - 15:13
LOL fox news probably the most patriotic, naive up americas asrse so much news channel here on satellite in the UK. it makes me laugh whenever i switch over to it. its basically just the "war on terror". you like here the word "terror" and "terrorist" in every sentence. makes me think fox news only know two syllables. LOL dont watch the news channel its full of propaganda and they spoon feed you into thinking its true.
Problems with the "flag" pins, eh?
You don't like it, don't watch it-that's what others do.
If you truly find it provides comic relief, that's fine; I get more than my share of laughs from the Beeb-for the most part, I don't even have to tune in-I just remind myself that some people actually believe the BBC to be "unbiased" because it is somehow "chartered" to be so.
I find that hilarious. :lol:
BTW-"terrorist"=THREE syllables. ;)
chinook_apache
10-19-2003, 10:56 AM
well now thanks for letting me know its 3 syllables. and i did not mention bbc in my post so i dont know how you calling it unbiased....!
Billy_Dean
10-19-2003, 11:16 AM
If it's a choice between the Fox news we get in Australia, and the BBC news we get here, there's no comparison, Fox is crap!! As you would expect from Murdoch. For me, when both sides of politics calls the BBC biased, I feel it's probably doing it's job correctly. The BBC also has it's own reporters all over the world, Fox uses feeds.
:)
chinook_apache
10-19-2003, 11:17 AM
kool. the thing is murdoch owns sky news here too and thats shite aswell
Originally posted by chinook_apache@19 October 2003 - 06:17
kool. the thing is murdoch owns sky news here too and thats shite aswell
Forgive me-
It was my understanding that the BBC is the preferred news source of those who use the word "shite". :)
sparsely
10-19-2003, 09:24 PM
you'll get more reality from the Cartoon Network than you will any news channel.
It's all scripted. They are being fed reports....they are lying to you.
All governments are liars and murderers
clocker
10-19-2003, 09:45 PM
Who is feeding them the lies?
To what purpose?
Biggles
10-19-2003, 11:16 PM
I have to say I rather like the BBC although I do also quite like CNN.
The BBC concept of balance is if it produces a programme with a left wing slant it will also produce one with a right wing slant. It does not try to balance the content of each individual broadcast. Consequently it has the best of both worlds - it can piss the left and right off in one evenings viewing.
My opinion is if one political party consistently likes a particular broadcaster then that channel should be viewed with a jaundiced eye. The Communist Party of the USSR were quite keen on Pravda's news coverage - but I think few would have called it balanced.
However, the BBC's big edge for me is that there are no advert breaks. So much commercial TV seems to work on the assumption that people have the concentration span no greater than that of a mollusc. :)
Originally posted by Biggles@19 October 2003 - 18:16
However, the BBC's big edge for me is that there are no advert breaks. So much commercial TV seems to work on the assumption that people have the concentration span no greater than that of a mollusc. :)
The commercial-free aspect has universal appeal, I think, if for no other reason than to "exercise" one's attention-span.
As re: FoxNews:
Every proponent of a "conservative" viewpoint is offset by a "liberal" one.
Perhaps it is that FoxNews acknowledges that "news" today is that which has passed through the various liberal or conservative "spin" processes, and seeks to present the news consumer with both at once, or whatever is left after passing through both processes simultaneously.
To paraphrase another of their slogans:
'Here are the two relevant and opposing viewpoints-YOU DECIDE.'
How, exactly, does the presentation of both arguments preclude "balance"?
Frankly, I'd rather watch Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner cartoons than anything.
I like them for the violence. :)
Biggles
10-20-2003, 08:34 PM
Presenting both viewpoints in the same piece is a perfectly reasonable approach and apologies if I implied it is not. I was merely highlighting the Beebs different approach to balance which is not in any way better, simply an alternative approach that could, if you didn't watch a lot of it, give the impression that they lean one way or another. It would be fair to say though that the BBC probably reflects a very British take on the world which is perhaps more Monty Python than Marx or Freidman.
Agreed - on Bugs Bunny or, my own personal favourite, Daffy. I use to pray that the Coyote would catch that damned bird though. :unsure:
Billy_Dean
10-20-2003, 08:43 PM
[j2]
To paraphrase another of their slogans:
'Here are the two relevant and opposing viewpoints-YOU DECIDE.'
How, exactly, does the presentation of both arguments preclude "balance"?
I'm always wary of anyone telling me what are the relevant sides to a story, there are not always two sides, there are often many more.
:)
Rat Faced
10-20-2003, 09:15 PM
Well said that man.
If one side is the Right and the other side is middle of the road....the Balance given will be to the Right....
When Fox gives the Palestinian argument, for example....maybe i'll listen. ;)
Billy_Dean
10-20-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@21 October 2003 - 06:15
If one side is the Right and the other side is middle of the road....the Balance given will be to the Right....
A very good point.
:)
Originally posted by Billy_Dean+20 October 2003 - 16:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 20 October 2003 - 16:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@21 October 2003 - 06:15
If one side is the Right and the other side is middle of the road....the Balance given will be to the Right....
A very good point.
:)[/b][/quote]
I must say, though, that when a representative/advocate of/for each side is given free rein to forward an argument, the liberal side suffers by comparison.
Granting that the Israel/Palestine question is not (nor should it be) the exemplar of what constitutes a "two-sided" issue (as it is most assuredly not), there are many others which support my supposition.
When the liberals argue head-to-head with conservatives, they lose.
Rat-
Balance cannot be "given" to either side. "Weight" accrues to the credible and thoroughgoing exercise of logic and reason.
It seems to me that on the occasion a conservative argument irrefutably trumps a liberal view that the conservative case is penalized by those who are inclined to disagree as having been unfairly credited.
In most arguments there is a winner and a loser, as in, let's say, a soccer match.
For the most part, the winning side wins because it is better prepared, better conditioned, more talented, or in some other way just plain superior to the losing side.
If this is acceptable on the soccer pitch, why not in the media?
In the case of the BBC, I have difficulty with both "sides" of a case being presented by a single anchor/reporter. I have seen this done often (though not always) on the Beeb.
The presumption of balance and fairness is, in that circumstance, off-putting, though I have to grant the Beeb is usually covering issues relative to U.S. foreign policy, a different game than domestics; I look forward to seeing how the BBC covers our next year's presidential election.
MagicNakor
10-21-2003, 05:11 AM
The recall coverage was amusing. Although from what I've seen, even the Democrats are pretty damn conservative. ;)
:ninja:
Originally posted by MagicNakor@21 October 2003 - 00:11
The recall coverage was amusing. Although from what I've seen, even the Democrats are pretty damn conservative. ;)
:ninja:
How so, MN? :huh:
Billy_Dean
10-21-2003, 05:33 AM
I second MagicNakor there, I find US politics starts a little right of the middle. This is almost true of Australia, the Labor party here starts a little left of the middle, but not much. A true left wing government is hard to find nowadays, and basic services tend to suffer because of it.
:)
MagicNakor
10-21-2003, 07:44 AM
How was the recall coverage amusing? Well, a few of the news guys were pretty brutal. I don't have anything on hand to write up, though. Never really thought to do it. And This Hour Has 22 Minutes had been looking for material.
I think the conservative angle in US politics has to do with the country's Puritanical roots. ;) The Democrats seem to have more in common with the Royal Conservatives than they do with the New Democratic Party (which is the most "serious" left wing party we've got). The Liberals run straight down the middle, which is why they've been in power for so long. People who are liberal-conservatives and conservative-liberals vote for them.
:ninja:
Magicnakor-quote:
How was the recall coverage amusing? Well, a few of the news guys were pretty brutal. I don't have anything on hand to write up, though. Never really thought to do it. And This Hour Has 22 Minutes had been looking for material.
There was a definite conflict between the "This shouldn't be allowed to happen!" affrontage, and the "This is the BEST thing to happen to politics in YEARS!" fans (I confess to being one of the latter, although in sober moments I can construct arguments for both sides); the REALLY hilarious part was both conservative and liberal commentary was more-or-less equally divided between the two. I predict history will not yield a consensus view on this point.
I think the conservative angle in US politics has to do with the country's Puritanical roots. Just so-good catch, MN. The Democrats seem to have more in common with the Royal Conservatives than they do with the New Democratic Party (which is the most "serious" left wing party we've got). The Liberals run straight down the middle, which is why they've been in power for so long. People who are liberal-conservatives and conservative-liberals vote for them.
American liberals, would, if given free rein, run far-left socialist, MN. Any perception to the contrary is fomented so as to counter any momentary cultural resistance.
BTW-if you haven't read TREASON, by Ann Coulter, give it a go. If you THINK you know about McCarthyism, or American liberalism, you will be enlightened, I promise.
MagicNakor
10-22-2003, 07:45 AM
How do you know? ;) They've never been given the chance. You may find they might just go slightly-left-of centre.
Specific books are difficult to find around here. I'd have to go up to the city, an hour's drive on a good day, and hope to find it. :( Gas prices prevent me from doing that right now.
Although I did saw the first few pages on Amazon. I found it pretty amusing. Even though I never linked the old McCarthy era with the current, it's accurate enough. Instead of the Reds under the beds, it's the terrorists (and some object of furniture that rhymes with it, I suppose). I do have to question the use of 8 Mile to poorly illustrate a point. Unfortunately the little preview cut off before I could be told how fighting Communism, Allah, and terrorism was good for the people of (and thus it ends).
Oh goody. I found it online. Now I'll know which people she was talking about.
Edit: After my programme on Richard I is finished.
:ninja:
Hmmm.
Try to forego your own cynicism before reading it?
While I'm on this tack, check around for the books "The Quest For Cosmic Justice" and "The Vision of the Anointed", by Thomas Sowell.
If you can find them, read them first.
After Richard I, of course. :)
Billy_Dean
10-22-2003, 02:22 PM
On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
MagicNakor
10-22-2003, 02:35 PM
Don't need to. I've got my towel.
It wasn't cynicism J2, it was the continued misuse of the word "treason," and the overuse of the word "McCarthyism." The 8 Mile reference just pushed it over. ;)
Was a pretty good program on Richard I. Not really the hero he's made out to be. But he's loved for it, anyway.
:ninja:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@22 October 2003 - 09:22
On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
My recommendations are not fiction/sci-fi, Billy. :)
Do you find me overly serious? :huh:
You would be wrong about that, too. :D
By golly-
Live, and in "cyber-person"!
Good Morning, MN! :)
Billy_Dean
10-22-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@22 October 2003 - 23:38
My recommendations are not fiction/sci-fi, Billy. :)
Do you find me overly serious? :huh:
You would be wrong about that, too. :D
Just a little levity, j2, must have been that last joint, or too much caffeine in the coffee milk shake, perhaps. I shall try to stay straight next time I reply to you.
:)
Originally posted by Billy_Dean+22 October 2003 - 09:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 22 October 2003 - 09:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@22 October 2003 - 23:38
My recommendations are not fiction/sci-fi, Billy. :)
Do you find me overly serious? :huh:
You would be wrong about that, too. :D
Just a little levity, j2, must have been that last joint, or too much caffeine in the coffee milk shake, perhaps. I shall try to stay straight next time I reply to you.
:)[/b][/quote]
Hmmmmm.....
I was going for levity, too....... :huh:
Are we having "wavelength" problems again, Billy? :P
Rat Faced
10-22-2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@22 October 2003 - 14:22
On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
Have spacesuite will travel
:P
Heinlein, i have to admit, is one of the heros i used to have when i was younger.
Billy_Dean
10-22-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced@23 October 2003 - 02:07
Have spacesuite will travel.
spacesuite?
Would that be the living quarters on the spaceship then? ;)
:)
Rat Faced
10-22-2003, 05:30 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Billy_Dean
10-22-2003, 05:42 PM
I don't remember much about the book, or any book I've read actually, but I do remember it made me laugh out loud.
Stranger in a Strange Land is still, in my opinion, one of the best works of fiction ever.
:)
Originally posted by Billy_Dean+22 October 2003 - 12:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 22 October 2003 - 12:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@23 October 2003 - 02:07
Have spacesuite will travel.
spacesuite?
Would that be the living quarters on the spaceship then? ;)
:) [/b][/quote]
Wavelength problems abound, apparently.
Greetings, Rat- :)
ljossberir
10-22-2003, 09:20 PM
Fox news is soooo incredibly biased and I hate some of the people like that one guy that says nothing but SHUT UP every 5 seconds hah..
Seriously though, people complain about fox being so biased but no one ever mentions al jazeera (sp?) which from what I can tell is completely objective reportibng the way its meant to be...
lmfao
MagicNakor
10-23-2003, 02:17 AM
Actually, I was heading to bed when that posted J2. ;) I'm vampiric.
I don't think many people mention Al-Jazeera because this thread, in particular, was about FOX News, which is widely consumable by the American public, whereas Al-Jazeera is not. Clips on either FOX News or CNN don't count.
:ninja:
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
Likewise I'm the only active conservative.
I'm an entity unto myself.
That's pretty cool.
Uniqueness.
I can live with it. :)
MediaSlayer
10-23-2003, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
i haven't seen bravery like that in a long time :o
MagicNakor
10-23-2003, 04:46 AM
I've seen FOX News once or twice. It was pretty funny. ;) The "big story" they had was which states you're allowed to marry your immediate cousins in.
:ninja:
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
I watch FoxNews as it is the ONLY network which: (1) Presents ANY conservative content, AND/OR (2) Presents it without the seemingly requisite apology or smirking tone.
I have problems with FoxNews, too, but my gripes are relative to presentational issues, which I feel, ironically, the major networks (CBS, ABC, NBC) still do very well-suffice it to say, I could do without all the graphics and SHAZZAM! bullshit.
It's just that the others are, well, shallow and insipid, and worst of all, INCOMPLETE!
;)
Billy_Dean
10-23-2003, 05:37 AM
Here you go, a truly conservative news channel.
Truly Conservative .Com. (http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage)
:)
kurtsl0an
10-23-2003, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there.
Originally posted by kurtsl0an+23 October 2003 - 00:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 23 October 2003 - 00:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there. [/b][/quote]
Well-
How about that?
I'm shocked.
Welcome, sir. ;)
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@23 October 2003 - 00:37
Here you go, a truly conservative news channel.
Truly Conservative .Com. (http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage)
:)
Boy, I guess so, huh? :huh:
Off your "favorites", Billy? ;)
MediaSlayer
10-23-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 05:29
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
Don't flatter yourself (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=0465001769&itm=1).
Originally posted by MediaSlayer+23 October 2003 - 01:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MediaSlayer @ 23 October 2003 - 01:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 05:29
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
Don't flatter yourself (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=0465001769&itm=1). [/b][/quote]
Eric Alterman?
You have got to be kidding.
Originally posted by j2k4+23 October 2003 - 01:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 23 October 2003 - 01:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@23 October 2003 - 01:05
<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 05:29
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
Don't flatter yourself (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=0465001769&itm=1).
Eric Alterman?
You have got to be kidding. [/b][/quote]
Try Bernard Goldberg, instead-it won't leave that shitty liberal taste in your mouth, even though he's liberal, too.
MediaSlayer
10-23-2003, 06:29 AM
Judging by your reaction, I think my work here is done. :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@23 October 2003 - 01:29
Judging by your reaction, I think my work here is done. :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Oh, you are such a rascal!
Get out of here, you scamp! :)
MediaSlayer
10-23-2003, 06:41 AM
tell your bird to stop staring at me or i'm gonna pm a mod!!!#@$%%4 :P
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@23 October 2003 - 01:41
tell your bird to stop staring at me or i'm gonna pm a mod!!!#@$%%4 :P
My bird isn't.. oh, him.
Just ignore him. He's trained-no preying while I'm in the forum.
clocker
10-23-2003, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by j2k4+22 October 2003 - 22:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 22 October 2003 - 22:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@23 October 2003 - 00:37
<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there.
Well-
How about that?
I'm shocked.
Welcome, sir. ;) [/b][/quote]
How touching.
Godzilla discovers a mate.
Originally posted by clocker+23 October 2003 - 01:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 23 October 2003 - 01:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by j2k4@22 October 2003 - 22:58
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@23 October 2003 - 00:37
<!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there.
Well-
How about that?
I'm shocked.
Welcome, sir. ;)
How touching.
Godzilla discovers a mate.[/b][/quote]
Hey, Buddy!
What's with the -zilla suffix? :huh:
Hey, really-I have been the token conservative WAAAAY too long.
3RA1N1AC
10-23-2003, 07:09 AM
a few weeks ago, i was flipping around between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, and they all covered the same particular story within a few minutes of each other. it was about Israel making an anti-fundamentalist raid and killing some Palestinians. on CNN and MSNBC, the anchors reported that the Israeli soldiers had killed "suspected terrorists." on Fox News, they simply reported that the dead Palestinians were terrorists.
i don't really like the either/or proposition constantly presented by the media, in general... but Fox News bases its reporting on a presumption of what constitutes truth and reality that i just don't agree with. compared to my own perceptions, Fox News' version of reality seems like a funhouse mirror to me. much of it seems only slightly more credible to me than the "news" segments on the 700 Club.
rather than say that the people at Fox News are liars, i'll just say that the version of reality that they present does not concur with my own.
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@23 October 2003 - 02:09
a few weeks ago, i was flipping around between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, and they all covered the same particular story within a few minutes of each other. it was about Israel making an anti-fundamentalist raid and killing some Palestinians. on CNN and MSNBC, the anchors reported that the Israeli soldiers had killed "suspected terrorists." on Fox News, they simply reported that the dead Palestinians were terrorists.
i don't really like the either/or proposition constantly presented by the media, in general... but Fox News bases its reporting on a presumption of what constitutes truth and reality that i just don't agree with. compared to my own perceptions, Fox News' version of reality seems like a funhouse mirror to me.
Good point.
I find ALL reportage, as a general rule, abominable; a fact-sorting mission, to be sure.
I much prefer the issue-oriented programming-one I find quite interesting is "Media Watch", which is hosted by Eric Burns on Friday eves, on FoxNews.
Two libs and two conservatives and Burns.
Not a bad show at all.
3RA1N1AC
10-23-2003, 07:23 AM
basically i think that some people will find a news source that concurs with their own assumptions, other people will find another, and so on... and unfortunately everybody else just has to settle for whatever's closest to their idea of the truth.
i do enjoy debate shows sometimes, depending on who's on, and whether they can get a good argument rolling.
Billy_Dean
10-23-2003, 07:35 AM
I'm reminded here of a comment made long ago, about the favourite newspaper of the owner of Fox, Rupert (the Bear) Murdoch. That paper is The Sun.
The British Press
[i]The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country;
The Times is read by the people who run the country;
The Telegraph is read by the people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they should run the country;
The Independent is read by people who don't know who runs the country but think it should be someone else;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country should be run by Russia;
The Express is read by people who think the country should be run like it was in the good old days of the empire;
The Sun is read by people who don't give a fuck who runs the country, as long as she has big tits...
:)
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@23 October 2003 - 02:35
I'm reminded here of a comment made long ago, about the favourite newspaper of the owner of Fox, Rupert (the Bear) Murdoch. That paper is The Sun.
[I quote]
The British Press
The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country;
The Times is read by the people who run the country;
The Telegraph is read by the people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they should run the country;
The Independent is read by people who don't know who runs the country but think it should be someone else;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country should be run by Russia;
The Express is read by people who think the country should be run like it was in the good old days of the empire;
The Sun is read by people who don't give a fuck who runs the country, as long as she has big tits...
:)
:lol: Seen that somewhere. :lol:
Billy_Dean
10-23-2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 16:40
:lol: Seen that somewhere. :lol:
Here, be my guest, have a look of the most read newspaper in the UK.
The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/)
:)
MagicNakor
10-23-2003, 08:57 AM
German newspapers can be pretty bad on using the sex-to-sell. ;)
:ninja:
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