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Silver_Dales
10-13-2003, 10:46 PM
Hi, I already have the free Zone Alarm and have seen a hash for ZA Pro and was wondering if it was any good? Or should I go for a different firewall altogether?
cheers

LTJBukem
10-13-2003, 11:14 PM
Zone Alarm is a good, easily configurable, firewall that does its job very well.

Sygate is better but less easy to configure.

clocker
10-13-2003, 11:17 PM
ZAPro is an excellent firewall.

Go for it.

MUSLEMAN
10-13-2003, 11:18 PM
sygate is better

The Kiler
10-13-2003, 11:28 PM
Sygate has a horrible interface. Get ZA

LTJBukem
10-13-2003, 11:28 PM
That'll be another 'useful' post by 'MUSLEMAN'.

Why not elaborate on why sygate is better?

MUSLEMAN
10-13-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by LTJBukem@13 October 2003 - 19:28
That'll be another 'useful' post by 'MUSLEMAN'.

Why not elaborate on why sygate is better?
as to this helpfull post by you or the previous one where you elaborated on sygate your self??http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/w/thumbs.gif

Wolfmight
10-13-2003, 11:48 PM
i wouldnt ripp off zone alarm cause it's your Firewall. You cant block your firewall from sending Registered data to the zonelabs website.

I payed for zone alarm pro, same with Norton Antivirus 2003.. 2 things i dont wanna risk. Heh yes i'm paraniod.

nikita69
10-13-2003, 11:53 PM
simply put, turn on ur ZA and test it. (http://scan.sygate.com/)

clocker
10-14-2003, 12:00 AM
Silver Dales,

My limited experience is with ZA Pro only, so I am unable to compare/contrast it with any other app.

It is very easy to use and I achieved a perfect stealth rating here, at Shields Up! (http://grc.com/default.htm) for whatever that is worth...

dingoBaby
10-14-2003, 12:43 AM
There is nothing wrong with either ZA or Sygate. I have used them both and I prefer ZA because, for me, it is easer to work with. Its my understanding that firewalls all do pretty much the same thing. The only one I have ever had trouble with is Outpost. For some reason it will not install on my machine. It is the only program (firewall or otherwise) that has give me the blue screen of death on this computer.

You should check out clocker's link to the Shields Up test, as that is an impartial third party test that is well put together and quite thorough.

clocker
10-14-2003, 12:54 AM
Just for grins I ran the Sygate test from Nikita's link with ZA.

Aced it.

kurtsl0an
10-14-2003, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 00:00
Silver Dales,

My limited experience is with ZA Pro only, so I am unable to compare/contrast it with any other app.

It is very easy to use and I achieved a perfect stealth rating here, at Shields Up! (http://grc.com/default.htm) for whatever that is worth...
i have no firewall software installed - only a wireless router.

i've aced all security tests - no one can touch me er even ping me (am i beggin 2 b hacked?). no stupid software boggin my system down either. :)

clocker
10-14-2003, 01:04 AM
I think that you are protected by an impenatrable wall of Madonna songs...

kurtsl0an
10-14-2003, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 01:04
I think that you are protected by an impenatrable wall of Madonna songs...
oh my lmao! i almost died from choking and laughing so hard.

:lol:

Virtualbody1234
10-14-2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by kurtsl0an+13 October 2003 - 19:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 13 October 2003 - 19:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@14 October 2003 - 00:00
Silver Dales,

My limited experience is with ZA Pro only, so I am unable to compare/contrast it with any other app.

It is very easy to use and I achieved a perfect stealth rating here, at Shields Up&#33; (http://grc.com/default.htm) for whatever that is worth...
i have no firewall software installed - only a wireless router.

i&#39;ve aced all security tests - no one can touch me er even ping me (am i beggin 2 b hacked?). no stupid software boggin my system down either. :) [/b][/quote]
Maybe you are protected from outside attacks but what is stopping any communication from software you install? A lot of companies are now adding &#39;phone home&#39; features to their products.

kurtsl0an
10-14-2003, 01:15 AM
i stop them by not installing crap software. :)

clocker
10-14-2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@13 October 2003 - 18:10

Maybe you are protected from outside attacks but what is stopping any communication from software you install? A lot of companies are now adding &#39;phone home&#39; features to their products.
Abtrusion (http://www.abtrusion.com/).

Stops ET from phoning home.

darkewolf
10-14-2003, 01:59 AM
I havent used ZA pro, but I have used the regular version, as well as the sygate- which is still on my system, whereas the ZA isnt. First off, ZA does NOT uninstall well on my machine. I know that this is prolly one of those locallized events that I was the unlucky one to have, but this is what happened: ZA started blocking me on just about every single thing that went out onto the net. I messed with it, and messed with it, and messed with it, and I still couldnt surf, read email, nada. It locked me inside a cage&#33; So I uninstalled it. It didnt uninstall. It removed itself from my start menu, it removed itself from my programs list, and it removed all of its icons, but it was still there. AND STILL BLOCKING ME. I had to format to get the darn thing outta my comp.
So I tried Sygate. I like it. Granted, it&#39;s not for the absolute novice, and my paranoid butt has it set to warn me of each and every DLL that wants access to the net before it lets it out. But, it gives a TON less false alarms. Actually, been using it for three months, and not a single false yet. But like a good lil watch dog, that load every dll feature has kept IE from loading some malware scripts imbedded in a page or two, and blocks in Real One, when it wants to go out talking to the home server.

And in answer to what somebody posted...no offense, I was reading and forgot to memorize who posted it; not all firewalls do the same thing. I wish I had a link to give, with results and tests and all of that, but I dont.
Some firewalls hide the entire IP from hackers, crackers, and script kiddies. Some hide everything that is behind the IP from said above. There are other types too, but I&#39;m too tired to accurately remember how they work.

ZaZu
10-14-2003, 06:02 AM
I use ZA Pro v4.0

Don&#39;t know from Sygate

darkewolf
10-16-2003, 10:35 AM
I am finding that Sygate doesnt work well with Norton Internet Security 2004. Maybe it&#39;s because I installed the Norton first in this last format, but the Norton seems to be overiding a lot of SPYBOT&#39;s, Sygate&#39;s, and POPUP SMASHER&#39;s functions.

leonidas
10-16-2003, 02:03 PM
1°) Has ZoneAlarm an ad blocker build in? :huh:

2°) Doesn&#39;t it use too much ressources? :o

3°) Is it better than NIS? <_<

clocker
10-16-2003, 02:22 PM
1) I&#39;m not sure, I use AdMuncher anyway...

2) 1764K of memory and 0 CPU cycles...is that light enough for you?

3)I hated NIS and got rid of it, so I would say yes, but NIS has lots of fans on this board.

leonidas
10-16-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by clocker@16 October 2003 - 15:22
2) 1764K of memory and 0 CPU cycles...is that light enough for you?
How much ressources does Nis use?

LTJBukem
10-16-2003, 05:07 PM
Zone Alarm Pro does have an ad blocker, a very effective one at that.

asmithz
10-16-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by LTJBukem@16 October 2003 - 09:07
Zone Alarm Pro does have an ad blocker, a very effective one at that.
Yes, Yes it does to bad its not that good. I dont mean the ad blocker but the program its self.

clocker
10-16-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by leonidas+16 October 2003 - 08:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 16 October 2003 - 08:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@16 October 2003 - 15:22
2) 1764K of memory and 0 CPU cycles...is that light enough for you?
How much ressources does Nis use? [/b][/quote]
Haven&#39;t a clue, sorry.

As I said, I deleted NIS so it&#39;s all gone now.

LTJBukem
10-16-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Agent Smith+16 October 2003 - 17:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 16 October 2003 - 17:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-LTJBukem@16 October 2003 - 09:07
Zone Alarm Pro does have an ad blocker, a very effective one at that.
Yes, Yes it does to bad its not that good. I dont mean the ad blocker but the program its self. [/b][/quote]
I disagree. Would you care to elaborate on why you think ZA is a poor firewall.

Marius24
10-16-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by LTJBukem+16 October 2003 - 18:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LTJBukem @ 16 October 2003 - 18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@16 October 2003 - 17:08
<!--QuoteBegin-LTJBukem@16 October 2003 - 09:07
Zone Alarm Pro does have an ad blocker, a very effective one at that.
Yes, Yes it does to bad its not that good. I dont mean the ad blocker but the program its self.
I disagree. Would you care to elaborate on why you think ZA is a poor firewall. [/b][/quote]
did u not see all the news about za having faults with its firewall software? <_<

LTJBukem
10-16-2003, 07:26 PM
No, I didn&#39;t. Why don&#39;t you provide a link.

darkewolf
10-16-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by LTJBukem+16 October 2003 - 18:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LTJBukem &#064; 16 October 2003 - 18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Agent Smith@16 October 2003 - 17:08
<!--QuoteBegin-LTJBukem@16 October 2003 - 09:07
Zone Alarm Pro does have an ad blocker, a very effective one at that.
Yes, Yes it does to bad its not that good. I dont mean the ad blocker but the program its self.
I disagree. Would you care to elaborate on why you think ZA is a poor firewall.[/b][/quote]
LTJ- my interpretation of the statement was that they were saying that NIS wasnt that great. just me.

darkewolf
10-16-2003, 07:59 PM
but then again I shouldnt open my mouth for other peeps...specially when I dont know them. SOWWY