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devilsadvocate
02-02-2010, 09:52 PM
In this age where a person can lay bleeding in the street have people step over him it's reassuring that there is enough good in the world that when things like Haiti happen we step up and help.

Then I read reports about idiots getting in the way.


What on earth would make a church in the USA think it could send some of its congregation to Haiti and take 33 children out of the country without any authority? It appears they just had transport. One of the children, an infant was so badly dehydrated when they were stopped that it needed emergency medical assistance.

Then there were the scientologists who got on a plane with just money, no food, supplies or plan and when they arrived had to ask the UN if they could set up in their compound. These scientologists went into a hospital and in a land where superstition reigns "laid hands" on sick and injured people and told them they were cured. Medics in the hospital complained that sick people were refusing treatment because they believed the scientologist had special powers.

Rart
02-03-2010, 02:12 AM
Apparently in overzealous attempts of generosity, many babies that could have potentially been reunited with their families are constantly being swept away, and as of such many organizations are now urging people to take more caution and follow far more stringent standards and rules before attempting any adoptions. While these acts of generosity are great, it seems almost like it's been insinuated into pop culture that its the "cool new thing" to do, almost to the point that anyone off the street can go to Haiti and pluck up a baby. It certainly does seem to be causing more harm than good at points =/

And we all know that Scientology is just a money front :ermm:

bigboab
02-03-2010, 08:00 AM
Apparently in overzealous attempts of generosity, many babies that could have potentially been reunited with their families are constantly being swept away, and as of such many organizations are now urging people to take more caution and follow far more stringent standards and rules before attempting any adoptions. While these acts of generosity are great, it seems almost like it's been insinuated into pop culture that its the "cool new thing" to do, almost to the point that anyone off the street can go to Haiti and pluck up a baby. It certainly does seem to be causing more harm than good at points =/

And we all know that Scientology is just a money front :ermm:

Overzealous attempts of generosity? I have heard many excuses for law breaking in my life, That one takes the biscuit. Opportunism more like. If they had crossed the border into Mexico and did the same thing the punishment would be life imprisonment. The same rules should apply in Haiti.

j2k4
02-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Then there were the scientologists who got on a plane with just money, no food, supplies or plan and when they arrived had to ask the UN if they could set up in their compound. These scientologists went into a hospital and in a land where superstition reigns "laid hands" on sick and injured people and told them they were cured. Medics in the hospital complained that sick people were refusing treatment because they believed the scientologist had special powers.



And we all know that Scientology is just a money front :ermm:

Isn't Scientology regarded as a religion, a la:

Truth About Scientology - The Only Major Religion To Emerge in 20th Century.
Scientology.org

Does L. Ron Hubbard fit the bill as a deity?

What are the organizational/structural differences between Atheism and Scientology?

Are the Atheists trying to help in Haiti as well?

Rart
02-03-2010, 09:19 PM
All I know is that I cracked up when even a South Park episode was approximately 99% accurate when it came to displaying what Scientologists really believe in.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103804/

bigboab
02-03-2010, 10:14 PM
And we all know that Scientology is just a money front :ermm:

Isn't Scientology regarded as a religion, a la:

Truth About Scientology - The Only Major Religion To Emerge in 20th Century.
Scientology.org

Does L. Ron Hubbard fit the bill as a deity?

What are the organizational/structural differences between Atheism and Scientology?

Are the Atheists trying to help in Haiti as well?

It's good to see that you received the wooden spoon I returned to you.:)

Please don't start on the definition of deity. You missed out the Moonies who's leader claims to be a Deity.

j2k4
02-03-2010, 11:50 PM
Isn't Scientology regarded as a religion, a la:

Truth About Scientology - The Only Major Religion To Emerge in 20th Century.
Scientology.org

Does L. Ron Hubbard fit the bill as a deity?

What are the organizational/structural differences between Atheism and Scientology?

Are the Atheists trying to help in Haiti as well?

It's good to see that you received the wooden spoon I returned to you.:)

Please don't start on the definition of deity. You missed out the Moonies who's leader claims to be a Deity.

I had the spoon, Bob, but I was holding it by the wrong end; couldn't bring myself to stir the poor fellow further.

clocker
02-04-2010, 12:06 AM
What are the organizational/structural differences between Atheismconservatism and Scientology?

Are the Atheists conservatives trying to help in Haiti as well?
Fixed.

j2k4
02-04-2010, 12:13 AM
What are the organizational/structural differences between Atheismconservatism and Scientology?

Are the Atheists conservatives trying to help in Haiti as well?
Fixed.

You've obviously overlooked the relevant thread, sir.

clocker
02-04-2010, 12:38 AM
Since when is relevant an issue.

j2k4
02-04-2010, 12:51 AM
Since when is relevant an issue.

Since this:

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-the-drawing-room-55/t-atheists-and-christmas-384071

clocker
02-04-2010, 01:07 AM
And what does that have to do with Baptists in Haiti?

j2k4
02-04-2010, 01:41 AM
Nothing whatsoever.

Why do you ask?

devilsadvocate
02-04-2010, 03:19 AM
Actually the post wasn't about baptists or Scientology or any other religious group. It was about rogue idiots who think they are doing good but are making things worse.

The only reason I mentioned who they are was because that's who they happened to be.

There are secular groups down there, I'm sure manned by people of many faiths and lack of. So far I haven't seen reports of any of them working outside of the coordinated official relief effort, but rest assured if any are I attach them unnamed to the original point.

j2k4
02-04-2010, 10:44 AM
And I only mentioned the Atheists, because someone mentioned the Scientologists.

So.