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sharedholder
10-23-2003, 03:26 PM
Bermuda Triangle mystery solved?

Massive gas bubbles rising from the sea floor may be capable of sinking ships and could explain the disappearance of a vessel in a North Sea "Bermuda Triangle", Melbourne researchers have concluded.

In a report published in the September issue of the American Journal of Physics, Monash University's Professor Joseph Monaghan and honours student David May said that a trawler discovered resting in a large methane crater off the east coast of Scotland may have been sunk by a huge gas bubble. The possibly lethal gas bubbles are created by underwater deposits of methane that have built up over thousands of years.

"It's long been known that there are pockets of methane gas, known as methane gas hydrates, beneat the ocean floor that could erupt if they're disturbed or if their internal pressure becomes too large," Professor Monaghan said.

The massive gas bubbles had the potential to cause aircraft to crash, Mr May said yesterday. "In the Bermuda Triangle, methane gas is known to be present and the release of that gas could cause not only boats to sink, as shown in our study, but also aeroplanes to crash," he said. The gas could cause an explosion if it came in contact with the hot engine of a plane.


Oil-drilling platforms are aware of the dangers of ocean floor gas bubbles and have safety procedures to follow if they hit a methane pocket. But the discovery of the fishing trawler in the North Sea suggests that not all vessels were as well prepared. Sonar surveys of the ocean floor 150 kilometres east of Scotland have revealed high levels of methane and gas eruption sites. At a site known as the Witch's Hole, a documentary film crew in 2000 discovered a wreck resting in the centre of an underwater crater, likely caused by a huge methane gas release. The wreck was a 22-metre, steel-hulled fishing trawler, built between 1890 and 1930. The trawler was relatively undamaged and was horizontal on the sea bed.

From laboratory experiments, the Monash University researchers were able to conclude that large gas bubbles, theoretically, had the ability to sink ships. "It is quite possible that the trawler languishing in Witch's Hole was sunk by a bubble with a radius equal to or bigger than the trawler's hull," Professor Monaghan said.

Mr May said they had made a small perspex boat and conducted a number of experiments examining how the size of the bubble related to the size and position of the boat.

They found that if a ship was directly above a gas bubble it was relatively safe, but a vessel on the edge or in the trough of a bubble may be swamped.

"The sinking occurs because a mound of water is raised above the region where the bubble reaches the surface," Professor Monaghan said.

"The flow from the mound creates a deep trough on each side of the mound, and the flow from the mound carries the boat into the trough."

SOURCE (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/22/1066631498889.html)

Rat Faced
10-23-2003, 05:17 PM
How does this explain the "Marie Celeste"?

bigboab
10-23-2003, 05:58 PM
I seem to remember this theory about the Bermuda Triangle being expounded about ten years ago.

Rat Faced. The Mary Celeste was not in the Bermuda Triangle when it was found but in the Azores. Theory was that the crew thought that the boat was sinking, the pump was not working so they took to the lifeboat. All the other 'Tales' about bloody swords etc. Were not mentioned in the offical enquiry.

billyfridge
10-23-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by sharedholder@23 October 2003 - 15:26


Massive gas bubbles rising from the sea floor may be capable of sinking ships and could explain the disappearance of a vessel in a North Sea "Bermuda Triangle", Melbourne researchers have concluded.


Hey man i&#39;ve heard it all now. THE EARTH FARTS :o :P :lol: <_<

muchspl2
10-23-2003, 06:39 PM
I always knew it had to do with swamp ga.. err I mean gas

but for real, I saw a study on this awhile back and seems to be the best one out on explaining it

ScotchGuy
10-23-2003, 06:43 PM
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Massive gas bubbles rising from the sea floor may be capable of sinking ships and could explain the disappearance of a vessel in a North Sea "Bermuda Triangle", Melbourne researchers have concluded.


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Hello, and welcome to an adult conversation.

Rat Faced
10-23-2003, 08:46 PM
Why spoil the ghost/ET stories we all grew up with?

I&#39;ll stick to telling the kids its ET ;)


As to the Gas theory....I dont know enough to comment one way or another.

However didnt an entire flight of Fighter Planes disappear in there? I can see a Gas Bubble taking out a plane or a ship....but a flight?

I dont think one theory will cover it all, as I think that different stuff has been responsible for different "Disappearances".

There is also some type of "Super Wave" that just appears and, they think, has been responsible for sinkings all over the world... i&#39;ll try and remember their name and look it up later.


Put this together with the Gas theory... and also that there was a lot of Piracy in those waters hundreds of years ago, together with the superstition of the time....I can see a "Story" grow and grow....




Mind, i&#39;d still love to know what happened to that flight.... :P


Edit:

Called Rogue Waves (http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/Story/0,2763,837163,00.html)..... a lot more common than previously thought ;)

JONNO_CELEBS
10-24-2003, 01:01 PM
This theory is the only reasonable one, I knew about this a long time ago and can&#39;t really dissagree with it purley because nothing else makes sense.
What else is it....??.........Aliens??........Ghost Pirates??..........Think about it :)
Bit like the Dinosuar thing, they say that when the Meteor hit, it hit in a certain place that released gases, if it had been 4 hours earlier or later then the Earth would not have been ravished like it was.

Jonno B)

uNz[i]
10-24-2003, 01:21 PM
I saw a documentary about this a few years back.

The best theory it put forward was: In the Bermuda Triangle, with the right atmospheric conditions, the horizon virtually "vanishes".

The sea and the sky seem to blur into each other. Because there is no point of reference, pilots can fly too low and crash into the sea.

Of course that doesn&#39;t account for all the lost ships...

But a methane bubble big enough to sink an ocean liner? That&#39;s a bit of a stretch, imo.

Edit: typo

MagicNakor
10-24-2003, 01:27 PM
I like the Cthulhu theory.


Cthulhu, the most known Ancient One, a creature that "lies not dead, but dreaming in the under water city of of R&#39;lye" lives in the Bermuda Triangle.


http://www.uiowa.edu/~anthro/webcourse/los...da-triangle.htm (http://www.uiowa.edu/~anthro/webcourse/lost/bermuda-triangle.htm) for more theories.

:ninja:

ilw
10-24-2003, 01:31 PM
Nice site MN, I personally put my faith in what this Ed guy can see

Wormholes, Vortexes, and Other Dimensions:&nbsp; Ed Snedeker believes that funnels, invisible to everyone except him, pick up ships and planes, transporting them to unknown places.

MagicNakor
10-24-2003, 01:34 PM
He&#39;s a fortunate man.

I envy him.

:ninja:

Billy_Dean
10-24-2003, 02:04 PM
I thought all this was cleared up in the documentary Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind?


:)

Billy_Dean
10-24-2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by ilw@24 October 2003 - 22:31
Nice site MN, I personally put my faith in what this Ed guy can see

Wormholes, Vortexes, and Other Dimensions:&nbsp; Ed Snedeker believes that funnels, invisible to everyone except him, pick up ships and planes, transporting them to unknown places.
Wouldn&#39;t it be strange if he was right? Like that Italian geezer who said the world was round.


:)

MagicNakor
10-24-2003, 02:10 PM
Why do you think I envy him? Other than his super-spiffy name.

Edward Snedeker. A noble moniker.

:ninja:

Billy_Dean
10-24-2003, 02:21 PM
I stayed in a place called Nador once, that was magical .... any relation?


:)

MagicNakor
10-25-2003, 12:12 AM
I think that&#39;s the uncle no one talks about.

:ninja:

Neo 721
10-25-2003, 10:26 PM
Anyway back to the topic, The methane buble theoy does seem the most plausable thus far, ever since the one that suggested that levals of carbon monoxide cause engines to cease.

blackhatknight
10-29-2003, 05:47 AM
Almost moving out of topic but strangely stay on it, there is little special about this triangle, has anyone heard of the dragons triangle off the coast of Japan there is reason to believe (can’t mind the source sorry guys but shouldn’t take too much looking title of book The Dragons Triangle) that these happenings occur six times symmetrically across the globe