Are You A Uk Subject Of Citizen?

[blackhatknight]

One can never be a citizen of the UK, as a system with monocracy we are subjects is this an issue or does it even matter?

MY TAKE: don’t mind being a subject but think the UK should get up to speed and accept that we are all global citizens or are we???

EDIT: Spelling, I swear i read them before i post them but still find mistakes

[billyfridge]

Originally posted by blackhatknight@29 October 2003 - 03:37
One can never be a citizen of the UK, as a system with monocracy we are subjects is this an issue or does it even matter?

MY TAKE: don’t mind being a subject but think the UK should get up to speed and accept that we are all global citizens or are we???

EDIT: Spelling, I swear i read them before i post them but still find mistakes
The illegal immigrants think so, when we allow them to stay, give them money,
housing etc, I think of myself as a citizen first, a loyal subject last, and that&#39;s a bit tenuous at the moment with the antics the royal fam is getting up to. I think of them as ambassadors for Britain but thats about all. I don&#39;t think there&#39;s much difference between citizen and subject exept for our unwelcome &#39;guests&#39; they&#39;re denizens. <_<

[Rat Faced]

We stopped being "Subjects" in the 1980&#39;s, since then we have been Citizens.

The difference is that a British "Subject" does not have the right to live in the UK, a British Citizen has...




I miss those big black passports ;)

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by blackhatknight@29 October 2003 - 03:37


EDIT: Spelling, I swear i read them before i post them but still find mistakes
Don&#39;t worry, it&#39;s not you making the mistakes. This is a conspiracy between the global moderators against "us". When they get bored, or if "they" find we&#39;re too clever for their likings, they make subtle spelling changes, to take the p*ss. You will adjust to their sense of humour, with time.

Edit: One of the worst perpetrators is called Rat Faced

[MediaSlayer]

that&#39;s pretty creative Nigel.......and funny too :lol:

[*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»]

My passport says i am British, but i ALWAYS consider myself English, i am not a subject, nowadays the monarchy is just a cover to make mioney for tourism and industry, (the tabloids seem to do ok out of them too ;)

[MediaSlayer]

Originally posted by nigel123@29 October 2003 - 10:04

Edit: One of the worst perpetrators is called Rat Faced
:o

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by *´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»@29 October 2003 - 11:58
My passport says i am British, but i ALWAYS consider myself English, i am not a subject, nowadays the monarchy is just a cover to make mioney for tourism and industry, (the tabloids seem to do ok out of them too ;)
The opposite of me..

I cant identify with "English", however have no trouble with "British".


Edit: One of the worst perpetrators is called Rat Faced


:o

[Kunal]

I&#39;m a British citizen, my parents are from India, but still British citizens,

I think monarchy is outdated and should be scrapped&#33;

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Rat Faced+29 October 2003 - 21:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 29 October 2003 - 21:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»@29 October 2003 - 11:58
My passport says i am British, but i ALWAYS consider myself English, i am not a subject, nowadays the monarchy is just a cover to make mioney for tourism and industry, (the tabloids seem to do ok out of them too&nbsp; ;)
The opposite of me..

I cant identify with "English", however have no trouble with "British".


Edit: One of the worst perpetrators is called Rat Faced


:o [/b][/quote]
To each their own, if the chap wants to think of himself as English instead of British , then let him. It doesn&#39;t come as much of a surprise anyway.

Like you I think of myself as British and it is what it says on my passport. It is also what I would put on a form were it to require my nationality. I am not sure that a nationality such as Scottish would actually have any official meaning. Much as the parochially minded would like it to.

With regard to the subject thing. Britain remains a constitutional monarchy as far as I am aware, so the Queen being any sort of head of state is really no more than titular, as such to consider one&#39;s self a subject would be pretty much meaningless.

[*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»]

Originally posted by JPaul@29 October 2003 - 20:57
It doesn&#39;t come as much of a surprise anyway.

And why is that old wise owl? Why does it not suprise you that i am proud to be English as much as you are proud to be Scottish? I feel British when i am abroad because it says so on my passport, but when i am at home i feel English.

[blackhatknight]

can&#39;t mind the exact statistic but it&#39;s something like 80% of people that live in England would declare their English before British

[bigboab]

Originally posted by JPaul@29 October 2003 - 20:57
the Queen being any sort of head of state is really no more than titular
JP With your knowledge of such things secular and non-secular, could you advise me on my position as regards the following? Having being an ex member of the dubious profession of teaching and a freethinker, therefore questionably a layman. Would this disqualify me from the possibility of holding the Scottish Titular position of &#39;LORD OF THE ERECTIONS&#39;? If not, the fact that I am taking Bromide as medication, can I am sure, be overcome. Would it then be possible for me to apply for this title. Thank you in anticipation.

[Biggles]

BigBoab

You could try a bromide/viagra mix. This I think would circumnavigate some of the problems. The downside is you wouldn&#39;t know if you were coming or going. :rolleyes:

I really ought to have posted that in JP&#39;s pun thread.

As to titular rights, I will leave that to JP as he seems to know about these things.

[bigboab]

Originally posted by Biggles@29 October 2003 - 22:29
BigBoab

You could try a bromide/viagra mix. This I think would circumnavigate some of the problems. The downside is you wouldn&#39;t know if you were coming or going. :rolleyes:

I really ought to have posted that in JP&#39;s pun thread.

As to titular rights, I will leave that to JP as he seems to know about these things.
Sorry I have done that one Biggles. By the way have you got planning permission for this alleged inferiority complex? Does it involve building private houses as part of the equation? :lol:

[Biggles]

I think as part of a local bylaw all inferiority complexes have to include mixed social housing as well as drop in centres for the homeless, bored teens and expectant mothers. The obligatory mall goes on top. Inferiority complexes are just not what they used to be. There was a time you could get by with a simple tug of the forelock.

I should have guessed you had already utilised the proferred pun :) a tad too obvious.

[bigboab]

Originally posted by Biggles@29 October 2003 - 22:40
I think as part of a local bylaw all inferiority complexes have to include mixed social housing as well as drop in centres for the homeless, bored teens and expectant mothers. The obligatory mall goes on top. Inferiority complexes are just not what they used to be. There was a time you could get by with a simple tug of the forelock.

I should have guessed you had already utilised the proferred pun :) a tad too obvious.
As planning permission is still ongoing, I suppose the delivery of a brown paper bag is out of the question. :(

[Biggles]

All brown paper bags come supllied with a full half bottle of Buckfast. Very reasonable rates no questions asked. B)

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by *´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»+29 October 2003 - 22:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö» @ 29 October 2003 - 22:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@29 October 2003 - 20:57
It doesn&#39;t come as much of a surprise anyway.

And why is that old wise owl? Why does it not suprise you that i am proud to be English as much as you are proud to be Scottish? I feel British when i am abroad because it says so on my passport, but when i am at home i feel English. [/b][/quote]
Simply because I had taken you to be proud of your English roots. I had no reason for this other than a feeling. More a sense of someone who was passionate about his country than anything else.

However if that is your attitude - feck off you arrogant jingoistic sassenach bastard, you may spend your time spoiling for a fight and justifying it by your paranoia, I do not.

[*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»]

Originally posted by JPaul+29 October 2003 - 23:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JPaul @ 29 October 2003 - 23:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by *´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»@29 October 2003 - 22:30
<!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@29 October 2003 - 20:57
It doesn&#39;t come as much of a surprise anyway.

And why is that old wise owl? Why does it not suprise you that i am proud to be English as much as you are proud to be Scottish? I feel British when i am abroad because it says so on my passport, but when i am at home i feel English.
Simply because I had taken you to be proud of your English roots. I had no reason for this other than a feeling. More a sense of someone who was passionate about his country than anything else.

However if that is your attitude - feck off you arrogant jingoistic sassenach bastard, you may spend your time spoiling for a fight and justifying it by your paranoia, I do not. [/b][/quote]
arrogant....me ? :lol:

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by *´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»+30 October 2003 - 00:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö» @ 30 October 2003 - 00:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by JPaul@29 October 2003 - 23:00

Originally posted by *´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»@29 October 2003 - 22:30
<!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@29 October 2003 - 20:57
It doesn&#39;t come as much of a surprise anyway.

And why is that old wise owl? Why does it not suprise you that i am proud to be English as much as you are proud to be Scottish? I feel British when i am abroad because it says so on my passport, but when i am at home i feel English.
Simply because I had taken you to be proud of your English roots. I had no reason for this other than a feeling. More a sense of someone who was passionate about his country than anything else.

However if that is your attitude - feck off you arrogant jingoistic sassenach bastard, you may spend your time spoiling for a fight and justifying it by your paranoia, I do not.
arrogant....me ? :lol: [/b][/quote]
Pretentious - moi

:lol:

[*´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»]

Just stfu sweaty sock and send me some of that scrumpy, is it strong? :huh:

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by *´¯`·.¸¸.»Çô©ö»@30 October 2003 - 00:27
Just stfu sweaty sock and send me some of that scrumpy, is it strong? :huh:
Be there any other kind. Strong and dry. :blink:

[bigboab]

A strong hand and a strong bow. That is what made Britain great. ;)

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by bigboab@29 October 2003 - 23:36
A strong hand and a strong bow. That is what made Britain great. ;)
:lol: :lol: :lol: