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graywolf
06-10-2010, 02:52 PM
I was just thinking, that what is the reason that FST has for promoting trade? I mean, I'm not going to rant against it here (just to show that I'm an anti - trader), I just had some curiosity. I mean, most moderators/ members who have the power of suggestion or the power to change things here, don't support trading here. I mean, I've time to time read threads made by Idol in this section about something related to "trade" and all.

But I never got to understand, why is it then allowed here? I'm not talking about being "high and classy" like TPS who prides itself on it being only a invite giveaway forum. I just mean, that whenever I've come here time to time, I found many people saying something or other about trade. Traders are ridiculed at their threads and if they close it, they are ridiculed at some other section, they post in.

I mean, if you don't like trading, why allow it? Why is FST allowing it in the first place?

I've seen many people here, that in the early times, like 2-3 years ago, when they traded, their threads remained open and people used to chat cheerfully. It seems that this "no trading" has been thought of as in recent times. So, what happened then? What caused the change?

I'm sorry, if I didn't notice that someone has given answer for this and this again is neither
my vendetta against traders or a campaign on getting them out of here. Just my plain and stupid curiosity.

anon
06-10-2010, 04:13 PM
I was just thinking, that what is the reason that FST has for promoting trade?

FST doesn't promote trading, it merely allows it. Those are two different things. :)

graywolf
06-10-2010, 04:15 PM
Ok.. sorry.. then I just wanted to ask, why it allows it?

ca_aok
06-10-2010, 08:54 PM
Very simply put. FST is a business, ads bring in money. Traders visit this site frequently since it's a large trading hub. More hits = more money, bing bang boom.

And the folks in charge aren't really that fussed with BT in general let alone the opinions of BT staffers so I doubt you'll see a change any time soon.

Skiz
06-10-2010, 09:21 PM
Very simply put. FST is a business, ads bring in money. Traders visit this site frequently since it's a large trading hub. More hits = more money, bing bang boom.


This whole argument is getting tiresome. It's just simply wrong. For years, the ads on this site did not even cover the bills. I still don't know that the ads here enable us to break even. This is not a business; never has been. If it were, the site would have closed a long time ago or tried putting up more ad banners. Neither has happened.

The trading section was opened long ago. Well before trading was a big thing. We used to have just the Bittorrent section for everything and then the number of threads for swapping invites became large enough that we decided to try out a section dedicated to it. It grew from there.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with being a business. :dabs:

tesco
06-10-2010, 10:45 PM
Very simply put. FST is a business, ads bring in money. Traders visit this site frequently since it's a large trading hub. More hits = more money, bing bang boom.


This whole argument is getting tiresome. It's just simply wrong. For years, the ads on this site did not even cover the bills. I still don't know that the ads here enable us to break even. This is not a business; never has been. If it were, the site would have closed a long time ago or tried putting up more ad banners. Neither has happened.

The trading section was opened long ago. Well before trading was a big thing. We used to have just the Bittorrent section for everything and then the number of threads for swapping invites became large enough that we decided to try out a section dedicated to it. It grew from there.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with being a business. :dabs:
Actually the owner is making money from this site, although he didn't for the first 3 or 4 years that he owned it.

But the business side of things has absolutely nothing to do with how the site is run.
The owner pays the bills, and then we (the mod team) run it. The money-making aspect has nothing to do with it.

The_Martinator
06-11-2010, 08:14 AM
So why not do away with the trading section? Cause it would seem rude? :P

P2PDog
06-11-2010, 01:00 PM
If they got rid of the trading section it wouldn't get rid of the traders. They'd still be here, but they'd just pretend not to be traders, like they do on other forums. Like it, or not, why not at least have it out in the open where you can see it?

One of the things I've come to like about this forum is its diversity, and that it represents, more accurately than other BT forums, the real BT community. That includes the bad as well as the good.

IdolEyes787
06-11-2010, 02:01 PM
If they got rid of the trading section it wouldn't get rid of the traders. They'd still be here, but they'd just pretend not to be traders, like they do on other forums. Like it, or not, why not at least have it out in the open where you can see it?


Even here it's like an iceberg where the greater mass is not visible.I do agree though that getting rid of the trade section would have very little effect on trading and make the place if anything more potentially "dangerous " for people not of that particular bent.

anon
06-11-2010, 03:51 PM
If they got rid of the trading section it wouldn't get rid of the traders. They'd still be here, but they'd just pretend not to be traders

And/or they'd just trade elsewhere.

Skiz
06-11-2010, 05:03 PM
So why not do away with the trading section?

Why would we?

The_Martinator
06-12-2010, 02:48 PM
If they got rid of the trading section it wouldn't get rid of the traders. They'd still be here, but they'd just pretend not to be traders, like they do on other forums. Like it, or not, why not at least have it out in the open where you can see it?


Even here it's like an iceberg where the greater mass is not visible.I do agree though that getting rid of the trade section would have very little effect on trading and make the place if anything more potentially "dangerous " for people not of that particular bent.

There's that too.

And now that I've thought of it, I think it woouldn't be a good idea to get rid of it. A lot of people on the outside (or on other BT forums) think the same as the OP, that FST supports trading. Those who come here to find out for themselves that that's not the case. I should know, I was one of them more than a year and a half ago. Those who'd rather go with the general opinion wouldn't fit in here anyway.

To answer Skizo's question, because trading does more bad than good in general. Like I said, I do understand that people would continue to trade privately.