Arizona Officials Racist? Nooooooo.......

[l33tpirata13]

Again, anyone thinking what's going on is NOT racial is quite obviously an IDIOT!!!!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid30311461001?bclid=0&bctid=221208372001

At least he had the right haircut.

[999969999]

If you watch the entire clip all the way through, I think he explains himself quite well.

And he makes a valid point...why do we never hear anything on the news about the La Raza-style groups out there which want to completely erase the border and finish the Reconquista movement?

[bigboab]

It is not racialist to kill the native Americans and take their land. Apparently.:whistling

[HeavyMetalParkingLot]

Got any other tricks you closed minded one trick pony?

[l33tpirata13]

Got any other tricks you closed minded one trick pony?

You're a joke. Is that all you can say?

[l33tpirata13]

If you watch the entire clip all the way through, I think he explains himself quite well.

And he makes a valid point...why do we never hear anything on the news about the La Raza-style groups out there which want to completely erase the border and finish the Reconquista movement?

You "thought". Doesn't mean much. Besides that you share the same views as said "sheriff".
Reconquista? Talk about paranoid. What the fuck makes you think that's real?

[sandman_1]

It is not racialist to kill the native Americans and take their land. Apparently.:whistling

Ok so using your logic, any nation that has conquered any other civilization is racist. Well I think that takes care of 99% of the globe I suppose.

[bigboab]

It is not racialist to kill the native Americans and take their land. Apparently.:whistling

Ok so using your logic, any nation that has conquered any other civilization is racist. Well I think that takes care of 99% of the globe I suppose.

Can I assume that irony is not one of your strong points.

[sandman_1]

Ok so using your logic, any nation that has conquered any other civilization is racist. Well I think that takes care of 99% of the globe I suppose.

Can I assume that irony is not one of your strong points.

Ohh I see, trying to be smart despite your facile remarks. Hmm interesting indeed...

[bigboab]

Can I assume that irony is not one of your strong points.

Ohh I see, trying to be smart despite your facile remarks. Hmm interesting indeed...

If my remarks are of no value they should not get racists' hackles up.

[bigboab]

Taken from tha BBC website this morning,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11707560


The 550,000 Indigenous Australians make up 2.7% of the population.
They suffer disproportionately high rates of unemployment, imprisonment, drug abuse, alcoholism and disease.


Does this ring a bell about the white mans' treatment of indigenous people?

[sandman_1]

Taken from tha BBC website this morning,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11707560


The 550,000 Indigenous Australians make up 2.7% of the population.
They suffer disproportionately high rates of unemployment, imprisonment, drug abuse, alcoholism and disease.


Does this ring a bell about the white mans' treatment of indigenous people?

LOL, kill whitey!!! :w00t:

[Skiz]

Again, anyone thinking what's going on is NOT racial is quite obviously an IDIOT!!!!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid30311461001?bclid=0&bctid=221208372001

At least he had the right haircut.

Is there anything contained in that clip that represents your point? I watched the first 5 minutes and saw nothing to support it. Please state the time at which the obvious racism begins.

[Skiz]

Taken from tha BBC website this morning,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11707560


The 550,000 Indigenous Australians make up 2.7% of the population.
They suffer disproportionately high rates of unemployment, imprisonment, drug abuse, alcoholism and disease.


Does this ring a bell about the white mans' treatment of indigenous people?

No.

Native Americans here have a disproportionately high rate of unemployment, drug abuse, and alcoholism but it isn't because someone is holding them back. They have the same options as white folks, as well as loads of options that others don't (i.e. - educational scholarships, tax exemptions, etc.) but most choose not to take advantage. Why? I dunno, ask them.... but don't suggest that it's the fault of someone else.

[999969999]

Again, anyone thinking what's going on is NOT racial is quite obviously an IDIOT!!!!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid30311461001?bclid=0&bctid=221208372001

At least he had the right haircut.

Is there anything contained in that clip that represents your point? I watched the first 5 minutes and saw nothing to support it. Please state the time at which the obvious racism begins.

I watched the entire video-- it's quite long-- and besides the extremely liberal reporter attacking him and bullying him and refusing to accept any of the sheriff's answers, there's nothing there at all. Nothing to support what Leet is suggesting.

Leet, did you even watch the video before you posted this thread?

[bigboab]

Taken from tha BBC website this morning,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11707560


Does this ring a bell about the white mans' treatment of indigenous people?

No.

Native Americans here have a disproportionately high rate of unemployment, drug abuse, and alcoholism but it isn't because someone is holding them back. They have the same options as white folks, as well as loads of options that others don't (i.e. - educational scholarships, tax exemptions, etc.) but most choose not to take advantage. Why? I dunno, ask them.... but don't suggest that it's the fault of someone else.

So you would have no qualms about 'outsiders' coming in and gradually taking 'your land' off you, by whatever means?

[Skiz]

No.

Native Americans here have a disproportionately high rate of unemployment, drug abuse, and alcoholism but it isn't because someone is holding them back. They have the same options as white folks, as well as loads of options that others don't (i.e. - educational scholarships, tax exemptions, etc.) but most choose not to take advantage. Why? I dunno, ask them.... but don't suggest that it's the fault of someone else.

So you would have no qualms about 'outsiders' coming in and gradually taking 'your land' off you, by whatever means?

Sorry, I don't understand what you're tiptoeing around or trying to get me to stumble in to.

What do you mean by "outsiders", "your land", and "by whatever means". Pose a question or don't.

[bigboab]

So you would have no qualms about 'outsiders' coming in and gradually taking 'your land' off you, by whatever means?

Sorry, I don't understand what you're tiptoeing around or trying to get me to stumble in to.

What do you mean by "outsiders", "your land", and "by whatever means". Pose a question or don't.

I meant how would you like someone to come and force you off your land? I was being cagey to try and avoid racism.
Modern Americans should learn a lesson from the British Empire and to a certain extent other Empires(not the cinemas). You cant subjugate people and not expect them to come back later and bite you where it hurts. Paying the Native Americans or the Australian Aborigines 'pocket money' will not make their gripe go away. Why do you think they go on drink and drugs. Could it be they have a very large problem and they have yet to find a solution. The Palestinians are an example of what I am trying to say.

Sorry I have strayed off the subject a bit. However you look at it the Arizona action is racialist.

[l33tpirata13]

Again, anyone thinking what's going on is NOT racial is quite obviously an IDIOT!!!!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid30311461001?bclid=0&bctid=221208372001

At least he had the right haircut.

Is there anything contained in that clip that represents your point? I watched the first 5 minutes and saw nothing to support it. Please state the time at which the obvious racism begins.

I'm not going to argue with you. I've been a victim of your bias on many occasion. If you don't believe he's a racist, or has racist tendencies, that's your OPINION. Let whoever decides to watch the video choose for themselves.

Here, let me ask you this, why wouldn't the sheriff be held responsible for who he decides to hang out with outside of work? The interview in question, from the beginning of the segment, was broadcasted in Tennessee. Also, you do realize he is a public figure right? If he were hanging out with prostitutes after work, wouldn't that be seen as "unethical"?

[l33tpirata13]

Is there anything contained in that clip that represents your point? I watched the first 5 minutes and saw nothing to support it. Please state the time at which the obvious racism begins.

I watched the entire video-- it's quite long-- and besides the extremely liberal reporter attacking him and bullying him and refusing to accept any of the sheriff's answers, there's nothing there at all. Nothing to support what Leet is suggesting.

Leet, did you even watch the video before you posted this thread?

Thanks for watching. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It would be un-American for me not to grant you that.

[HeavyMetalParkingLot]

Thanks for watching. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It would be un-American for me not to grant you that.

Yup, even racist little kids like you has that right....

[l33tpirata13]

Thanks for watching. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It would be un-American for me not to grant you that.

Yup, even racist little kids like you has that right....

Do you have anything of value to add? Or are you just going to keep being small minded as usual?

[HeavyMetalParkingLot]

Yup, even racist little kids like you has that right....

Do you have anything of value to add? Or are you just going to keep being small minded as usual?

Pot...kettle. What is the value of this whole thread? You call me small minded, but your past posts proves you to be the small minded one around here...

[l33tpirata13]

Do you have anything of value to add? Or are you just going to keep being small minded as usual?

Pot...kettle. What is the value of this whole thread? You call me small minded, but your past posts proves you to be the small minded one around here...

Again, nothing of value to add. Why isn't it valid? Give explanations since you're so "grown up". Besides, what the hell do you know? Serious Question.

Here, how's this other video? I'm definately not the only one who thinks Sheriff Babeu is out of line.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid30311461001?bclid=0&bctid=221208372001

Also, by your assertion, is NBC Phoenix small-minded? Their watchers? Explain yourself.

[HeavyMetalParkingLot]

Pot...kettle. What is the value of this whole thread? You call me small minded, but your past posts proves you to be the small minded one around here...

Again, nothing of value to add. Why isn't it valid? Give explanations since you're so "grown up". Besides, what the hell do you know? Serious Question.

Here, how's this other video? I'm definately not the only one who thinks Sheriff Babeu is out of line.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid30311461001?bclid=0&bctid=221208372001

Also, by your assertion, is NBC Phoenix small-minded? Their watchers? Explain yourself.

You refered to people as "idiots" in the first line of this post for disagreeing with you.

What the hell do you know? Also serious question.

As far as being "grown up" I am not the one who repeatedly calls other racists, homophobes, and idiots because they think differently than I. Also I'm not the one who can not express himself without "f" this "f" that in almost every post. Your language says more about you than you apparently realize.

Go ahead and pull your little copout with your "supposed value" that only you seem to bring.

To be honest, I do not put much "value" in Phoenix folks seeing as apparently they are willing to sell their votes for free pizza as proven by One Arizona. Did you get yours?

[l33tpirata13]

To be honest, I do not put much "value" in Phoenix folks seeing as apparently they are willing to sell their votes for free pizza as proven by One Arizona. Did you get yours?

Substantiate what stupid shit you say with proof. Arguing with you always gets the same stupid "I know you are but what am I" defense. Learn to make a valid point for once.

By the way, I live in Chicago. I apparently get out more than you do.

Oh, and putting "idiot" in my thread title was meant to stir up "idiots". "Idiots" fail to accept facts even when they are slapped in the face with them.

[999969999]

To be honest, I do not put much "value" in Phoenix folks seeing as apparently they are willing to sell their votes for free pizza as proven by One Arizona. Did you get yours?

Substantiate what stupid shit you say with proof. Arguing with you always gets the same stupid "I know you are but what am I" defense. Learn to make a valid point for once.

By the way, I live in Chicago. I apparently get out more than you do.

Oh, and putting "idiot" in my thread title was meant to stir up "idiots". "Idiots" fail to accept facts even when they are slapped in the face with them.

You live in Chicago. Why are you so concerned about what goes on in my state?

[l33tpirata13]

Substantiate what stupid shit you say with proof. Arguing with you always gets the same stupid "I know you are but what am I" defense. Learn to make a valid point for once.

By the way, I live in Chicago. I apparently get out more than you do.

Oh, and putting "idiot" in my thread title was meant to stir up "idiots". "Idiots" fail to accept facts even when they are slapped in the face with them.

You live in Chicago. Why are you so concerned about what goes on in my state?

It's not "your" state!!! It's my (our) country so what's your gripe? And if that's not enough for you then I'll up the anti, most my family lives there. I'll be moving there next spring. I guess that means one more unwanted mexican huh? Tough shit.

[999969999]

You live in Chicago. Why are you so concerned about what goes on in my state?

It's not "your" state!!! It's my (our) country so what's your gripe? And if that's not enough for you then I'll up the anti, most my family lives there. I'll be moving there next spring. I guess that means one more unwanted mexican huh? Tough shit.

I can't say I'm happy about you moving here. Just stay away from Eagar, okay?

[bigboab]

Little wonder you deny global warming. Is your reason for your denial that you need massive amounts of wood to build your stockade?:whistling

[devilsadvocate]

Little wonder you deny global warming. Is your reason for your denial that you need massive amounts of wood to build your stockade?:whistling

Surely it's the other way round.

Who would use wood if they thought the planet was about to combust?

[clocker]

To be honest, I do not put much "value" in Phoenix folks seeing as apparently they are willing to sell their votes for free pizza as proven by One Arizona. Did you get yours?
I can't seem to find a single thing about this...must be a massive lamestream liberal media coverup.
Or, like J2, you simply enjoy making shit up and presenting it as fact.

Can you clarify?

[bigboab]

I found this article. You know what politicians can do with a snippet.:whistling
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2010/06/jack_abramoff_now_flipping_pizzas.php

[clocker]

I'm sure that Arizona's politicians are simply overwhelmed by the headless bodies littering the desert and Phoenix's astronomical kidnapping rate.
It's very tiring fighting imaginary situations...

[MagicNakor]

Like any good crook, that fellow sports a sharp chapeau.

:shuriken:

[clocker]

Yes, he does.

[999969999]

I'm sure that Arizona's politicians are simply overwhelmed by the headless bodies littering the desert and Phoenix's astronomical kidnapping rate.
It's very tiring fighting imaginary situations...

You probably wouldn't think they were imaginary situations if you watched local Arizona news where kidnapping involving illegal aliens (often called "drop houses") is a common news story.

As for the headless bodies, she meant the decapitating at the hands of the drug cartel along the border.

I'm sure if you lived closer to the border, you would also be concerned about what is going on down there.

[clocker]

Probably not.

[999969999]

Probably not.

Of course not, because you're so open-minded.

http://www.kpho.com/valleynews/25744777/detail.html

[Skiz]

To be honest, I do not put much "value" in Phoenix folks seeing as apparently they are willing to sell their votes for free pizza as proven by One Arizona. Did you get yours?
I can't seem to find a single thing about this...must be a massive lamestream liberal media coverup.
Or, like J2, you simply enjoy making shit up and presenting it as fact.

Can you clarify?

You must not have done much searching. I Googled "pizza for votes" and got plenty of results.


Probably not.

Once again, an easy opinion to have when you're nowhere close to what's actually happening.

[l33tpirata13]

It's not "your" state!!! It's my (our) country so what's your gripe? And if that's not enough for you then I'll up the anti, most my family lives there. I'll be moving there next spring. I guess that means one more unwanted mexican huh? Tough shit.

I can't say I'm happy about you moving here. Just stay away from Eagar, okay?

I really could care less what you "think". I can guarantee you I have more family over there than you do, BY FAR!!!!! Hell, I may just go to Eagar just to piss you off!!!!! Hell, maybe I'll set up shop there. Something you seem to forget mEager, is that I'm American, jackass!!!!! I was born that way. I have the right to go and make my life anywhere in the USA, however I please. It's called the pursuit of happiness.

You do realize how dumb and UNAMERICAN you sound right? What are you protecting mEager? From whom?

[l33tpirata13]

Oh and now 9999 is talking about decapitations? Dude how many foil hats do you own? I'll admit they are happening in MEXICO, but, what the fuck does that matter to you? It's not in your backyard so stop with your fake indignation. It's all BS and you know it. Although it being BS, is reason enough for SKiz to jump on the bandwagon. Seriously Skiz, you wanna make it seem like you know something because you think you're "closer" to "what's happening"? Again stop spewing what you hear on talk radio.

[Skiz]

I couldn't care less about that last post, but his constant insulting of members and their opinions had gone far enough. We get more reports about his posts than any other on the forum and he has blatantly ignored infractions for the same thing over and over. Not many other options when that happens. Anyhow, on with the topic...

[sandman_1]

I couldn't care less about that last post, but his constant insulting of members and their opinions had gone far enough. We get more reports about his posts than any other on the forum and he has blatantly ignored infractions for the same thing over and over. Not many other options when that happens. Anyhow, on with the topic...

True and if you can't back up your argument then don't resort to insults is the lesson that should be learned. The guy makes an accusation and from what I read couldn't back it up.

Also I find it strange that it seems when the race card is being thrown around, it seems that it is only white people that are "racist". Yes there are racist white people in this world but there are other racists factions that seem to get a pass. Ever hear of the Black Panthers? NatGeo has these guys on video stomping on the American flag and telling people to kill whitey, not including voter intimidation, and this guy is worried about some Sheriff who might be racist? Please...

[devilsadvocate]

Also I find it strange that it seems when the race card is being thrown around, it seems that it is only white people that are "racist". Yes there are racist white people in this world but there are other racists factions that seem to get a pass. Ever hear of the Black Panthers? NatGeo has these guys on video stomping on the American flag and telling people to kill whitey, not including voter intimidation, and this guy is worried about some Sheriff who might be racist? Please...

I agree with you that racism is not a one sided affair, but I think one side of the see-saw is heavier

Are you talking about the Black Panther party or the two guys that make up the "new" black panthers?

[sandman_1]

I agree with you that racism is not a one sided affair, but I think one side of the see-saw is heavier

Are you talking about the Black Panther party or the two guys that make up the "new" black panthers?


Bah what proof do you have that the "see-saw" is heavier on one side compared to the other? Some groups might be more outspoken than others but doesn't mean that hatred isn't wide spread in other areas.

Two guys? No, I think you are mistaken. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/3952/Overview

[devilsadvocate]

Bah what proof do you have that the "see-saw" is heavier on one side compared to the other? Some groups might be more outspoken than others but doesn't mean that hatred isn't wide spread in other areas.

Sheer population numbers. What proof other than your suspicions do you have that hatred resides in quiet places? Why does it have to be "groups?

Two guys? No, I think you are mistaken. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/3952/Overview


You didn't answer my question. You said black panthers and mentioned voter intimidation, which is a bit of an exaggerated story involving the NEW black panthers. They are two entirely different groups. The "new" black panthers are a small fringe group that has been given credibility beyond reason which definitely has racists elements. But if they are your entire argument to suggest that the balance is equal then you have more work to do.

[sandman_1]

You didn't answer my question. You said black panthers and mentioned voter intimidation, which is a bit of an exaggerated story involving the NEW black panthers. They are two entirely different groups. The "new" black panthers are a small fringe group that has been given credibility beyond reason which definitely has racists elements. But if they are your entire argument to suggest that the balance is equal then you have more work to do.

If you went to that link, it was obvious I did or did you not even bother?

Exaggerated? So brandishing a weapon at a voting precinct is exaggerated now. I guess he was scared of the white people voting?

They are not my entire argument but if you think racism just relegates itself explicitly to one race because a few groups get more press and attention, then I got a bridge I want to sell ya.

[devilsadvocate]

[QUOTE=devilsadvocate;3529065]



If you went to that link, it was obvious I did or did you not even bother?

Exaggerated? So brandishing a weapon at a voting precinct is exaggerated now. I guess he was scared of the white people voting?

Yes exaggerated. he was stood holding a stick, he wasn't "brandishing" it, he didn't chase anyone, he didn't try to stop anyone entering the polling station and not one voter reported being intimidated. He was reported by a republican poll watcher, not a voter. Now I agree he should not have been anywhere near a polling station with a stick, but the story has been inflated.

They are not my entire argument but if you think racism just relegates itself explicitly to one race because a few groups get more press and attention, then I got a bridge I want to sell ya. Where did I say it is explicitly one race? All I've questioned is the balance of the see-saw.

BTW


http://filesharingtalk.com/images/misc_fst/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by sandman_1 http://filesharingtalk.com/images/buttons_fst/viewpost-right.png (http://filesharingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=3528960#post3528960)

Also I find it strange that it seems when the race card is being thrown around, it seems that it is only white people that are "racist". Yes there are racist white people in this world but there are other racists factions that seem to get a pass. Ever hear of the Black Panthers? NatGeo has these guys on video stomping on the American flag and telling people to kill whitey, not including voter intimidation, and this guy is worried about some Sheriff who might be racist? Please...Who is giving the NEW black panthers a "pass"?

[999969999]

I can't say I'm happy about you moving here. Just stay away from Eagar, okay?

I really could care less what you "think". I can guarantee you I have more family over there than you do, BY FAR!!!!! Hell, I may just go to Eagar just to piss you off!!!!! Hell, maybe I'll set up shop there. Something you seem to forget mEager, is that I'm American, jackass!!!!! I was born that way. I have the right to go and make my life anywhere in the USA, however I please. It's called the pursuit of happiness.

You do realize how dumb and UNAMERICAN you sound right? What are you protecting mEager? From whom?

Oh god! Are you trying to give me nightmares?!

Do me a favor, okay? If you see this sign...

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad15/eagar9/260a.png

Stay off that road.

It eventually leads to me...

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad15/eagar9/260.gif