Border Trash

[999969999]

I know the liberals on this forum couldn't care less about the economic impact, state budget depletion, criminal costs and societal and demographic change issues associated with illegal immigration, but let's see what they think of the impact it makes on the environment. Most liberals seem to also be very concerned with the environment. Will they care about this?

http://azbordertrash.gov/about.html

What is Arizona Border Trash?

Border trash refers to items discarded by persons involved in illegal immigration such as plastic containers, clothing, backpacks, foodstuffs, vehicles, bicycles, and paper. It can also consist of human waste and sometimes medical products.

The collection and disposal of waste in remote areas along Arizona's 370-mile border with Mexico poses difficult challenges. An estimated more than 2,000 tons of trash is discarded annually in Arizona's borderlands. A variety of federal and state government entities, Native American tribes and private landowners are affected by the problem, and addressing it requires extensive coordination.

The environmental impact caused by illegal immigration, and the trash left behind, is increasingly being found in areas that are more fragile and remote.



Characterizing the Impact

Accumulated border trash has been shown to affect human health, the environment and economic wellbeing. Impacts include:

•Strewn trash and piles
•Illegal trails and paths
•Erosion and watershed degradation
•Damaged infrastructure and property
•Loss of vegetation and wildlife
•Campfires and escaped fires
•Abandoned vehicles and bicycles
•Vandalism, graffiti and site damage (historical and archaeological)
•Occurrence of bio-hazardous waste
Quantifying the Impact

Apprehensions of individuals by the U.S. Border Patrol as a result of illegal immigration vary every year. Current Border Patrol statistics indicate that about 110,000 border crossers will be captured during the current fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30, and doesn't count the many others who get through. The border crossers leave approximately six to eight pounds of trash in the desert during his or her journey. The cost of disposing of this trash is high for local communities. Landfill fees range from $37 to $49 per ton in Southern Arizona. These fees do not include costs for materials, equipment, labor and transportation for the collection and transfer of the trash to the landfill

[devilsadvocate]

I know the liberals on this forum couldn't care less about the economic impact, state budget depletion, criminal costs and societal and demographic change issues associated with illegal immigration,

If it wasn't for those very issues the USA wouldn't exist today

Apprehensions of individuals by the U.S. Border Patrol as a result of illegal immigration vary every year. Current Border Patrol statistics indicate that about 110,000 border crossers will be captured during the current fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30, and doesn't count the many others who get through. The border crossers leave approximately six to eight pounds of trash in the desert during his or her journey. The cost of disposing of this trash is high for local communities. Landfill fees range from $37 to $49 per ton in Southern Arizona. These fees do not include costs for materials, equipment, labor and transportation for the collection and transfer of the trash to the landfill

110,000 captured per year. That's an average of 2115 per week, 301 per day, and you say there is no effort to enforce the border? Is that just AZ or coast to coast?

[megabyteme]

You are the one who insists that they walk, 9's. Jeesh.

[clocker]

I think it's hilarious that you've tried to tie environmental concerns to illegal immigration.
Arizona is so bankrupt it can barely collect trash in the cities, much less the desert.
The whole state has been a laboratory for the far right and it (along with Texas) just previews what damage "conservative" policies will wreck on the rest of the country.

[999969999]

Yeah, who cares about the environment as long as the destruction is being caused by illegal immigration, right?

But if Arizona wanted to build another dam or build a new power generating station, you would be all upset about it because it might hurt some cactus or a lizzard.

The silence from groups like the Sierra Club about this destruction of the fragile desert wilderness is deafening.

[devilsadvocate]

Advertise the land as prime trailer park lots. You wouldn't have to clear up that way

[clocker]

... if Arizona wanted to build another dam or build a new power generating station...
Dude, your state is BROKE, you can't even afford to keep highway rest stops open and have sold off the damn capitol building, so the chances of building any dams is about zero.

[999969999]

... if Arizona wanted to build another dam or build a new power generating station...
Dude, your state is BROKE, you can't even afford to keep highway rest stops open and have sold off the damn capitol building, so the chances of building any dams is about zero.

Ha! You heard about that?! It's true. The only rest stop between Eagar and Phoenix (a 217 mile journey) was recently closed. But hey, that's why saguaros have all those yellow stains on them. That's all they're good for anyways.

[clocker]

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But hey, that's why saguaros have all those yellow stains on them. That's all they're good for anyways.
So much for your "conservationist" pose.

[999969999]

Hey dude, I never claimed to be a conservationist. But liberals do. Selectively. When it furthers their cause.

[clocker]

Oh.
I thought that the whole point of this post was about the ecological damage caused by illegal immigration and how it was despoiling your state.
Now you don't care, apparently.

Is there any consistency to your positions?

[megabyteme]

9's FAIL.

[999969999]

Oh.
I thought that the whole point of this post was about the ecological damage caused by illegal immigration and how it was despoiling your state.
Now you don't care, apparently.

Is there any consistency to your positions?

You're still not getting it.

You may have noticed that in earlier posts I am in favor of building dams and power plants, but liberals object to these things and hide behind environmentalism as an excuse, but yet when the desert wilderness gets defiled by illegal immigration they conveniently ignore it because they don't want to call any attention to any of the negative impacts of illegal immigration.

[devilsadvocate]

You're still not getting it.

You may have noticed that in earlier posts I am in favor of building dams and power plants, but liberals object to these things and hide behind environmentalism as an excuse, but yet when the desert wilderness gets defiled by illegal immigration they conveniently ignore it because they don't want to call any attention to any of the negative impacts of illegal immigration.

So you're saying that "liberals" that advocate clean air, water, stricter waste disposal regulations and for environmentally friendlier packaging etc. are being hypocrites because they haven't highlighted a particular source of pollution in a particular area? Is this particular area somehow not included in "protect the environment" meme and needs separate attention? If a national advocacy group fails to mention a single local issue does that mean they don't care about trash?

MLK didn't speak out about every single case of racial injustice on an individual basis.

Clocker can speak for himself, but I get it. You're pushing a conspiracy theory.

[clocker]

You're still not getting it.

You may have noticed that in earlier posts I am in favor of building dams and power plants, but liberals object to these things and hide behind environmentalism as an excuse
If environmentalism is but an "excuse" that liberals are hiding behind, what, prithee tell, is the "real" reason they object?