Take That, Fatty!

[999969999]

I haven't been on here recently because I've been too busy lately. It looks like the economy is finally starting to pick up speed. While I'm glad that this is good for my family's business, I also know it makes it a lot more likely for Obama to get back in for a second term. Oh well.

Here's some news for the FAT people on Medicaid:


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/arizona-gov-jan-brewer-proposes-medicare-fat-fine/story?id=13274368


In my opinion, this is a good first step in the right direction, but it does not go far enough. $50 per year?! How about $50 for each co-pay? Maybe $500 per month if they fail to lose the weight in a reasonable amount of time? These people are running up the cost of health care. They should have some incentive to stop stuffing their faces and get off their butts and start exercising. And maybe they should try eating some kale, parsley, carrots, beets, etc. for a change.

[clocker]

In my opinion, this is a good first step in the right direction, but it does not go far enough. $50 per year?! How about $50 for each co-pay? Maybe $500 per month if they fail to lose the weight in a reasonable amount of time? These people are running up the cost of health care. They should have some incentive to stop stuffing their faces and get off their butts and start exercising. And maybe they should try eating some kale, parsley, carrots, beets, etc. for a change.
So, you want the government to decide your "reasonable" weight and the "reasonable" amount of time to attain it.
Then, penalize you for failure.

Will this be the same government that won't be interfering in your personal/business dealings (because that would be "Socialism"!) and that you've aggressively been defunding?
You already have the IRS (which we hate on general principles, right?) all up in the uterus of every woman in America, making sure she isn't turning her love of abortions into tax deductions, so things are already getting busy without monitoring the weight of every person in the country...and BTW, how does the same political mindset that fears the census acquiesce to federal weight monitoring?

[mjmacky]

how does the same political mindset that fears the census acquiesce to federal weight monitoring?

You made an error, you assumed there was a mindset

[clocker]

There is a mindset, it's just chaotic.

The base of the Republican right reflexively contracts from "government interference" (except you know, from things like Social Security and Medicare...proposed changes to these socialist programs exempt the right wing base from the effects) but sees no reason not to use the government as the bully pulpit for their pet moral crusades.

Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that Michelle Obama was being roundly mocked for her opinions on childhood obesity?
It makes perfect sense- in Republican BizzaroWorld- to freak out about the goddamn gubmint gettin all up my spawn's school lunch and then turn around in twenty years and punish them for turning into little zeppelins as a result of their poor nutrition.

While we're at it, let's cut all access to sex education and birth control and simultaneously restrict access to abortion and pre/post natal care...because that is totally logical.

In accordance with the right wing's love of children (which begins at conception and ends at delivery), all school funding should be cut as well. Because an undereducated workforce will lure companies back to home soil and increase our competitive position with India and China. Yeah, that's totally how it works.

I don't know, it's kinda weird.
Viewed objectively, the right wing plans seem to result in a doughy, stupid- yet fertile!-population.
Which doesn't seem too useful for anything but extruding more conservatives.

[mjmacky]

There is a mindset, it's just chaotic.
But I have happened upon some proof that there is no mindset. This eloquently designed scientific diagram is very convincing.

http://thumbnails33.imagebam.com/12658/d35886126575482.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d35886126575482)

[megabyteme]

:lol: I believe that document, now having been posted on a "reliable" internet source, stands up as factual evidence in the eyes of 9's. It should be noted, however, that the diagram is NOT to scale- he produces a vast number of topics via an extremely tiny filter.

[mjmacky]

What is also not seen is that the vacuum diaphragm is porous, and the particles of ignorant polarized ramblings easily fit through the pores. The much larger rational and critically developed ideas cannot pass through the membrane. However, even with all of the rational information, the bits of nuts tend to slip through easily without impedance from blockage.

[bigboab]

I thought the idea of this section was to discuss the pros and cons of post subjects and not to denigrate the member(s) taking part.

[clocker]

We stray occasionally.

[devilsadvocate]

I thought the idea of this section was to discuss the pros and cons of post subjects and not to denigrate the member(s) taking part.

Did you read the title of the thread?

[megabyteme]

I thought the idea of this section was to discuss the pros and cons of post subjects and not to denigrate the member(s) taking part.

Fatty.

[mjmacky]

I thought the idea of this section was to discuss the pros and cons of post subjects and not to denigrate the member(s) taking part.

It's clear he's trolling, so I'm just playing along. Also, I've spoken the truth whether or not it has been through a metaphor.

[999969999]

Okay, I'm back!

The economy is definitely picking up steam and we have been so busy that we are back to 2006 levels of business.



There is a mindset, it's just chaotic.

The base of the Republican right reflexively contracts from "government interference" (except you know, from things like Social Security and Medicare...proposed changes to these socialist programs exempt the right wing base from the effects)

I would love to see Social Security and Medicare be completely eliminated. I'm never going to benefit from them. And they are unsutainable whether or not I or anyone wants to keep them around. Eventually we will owe so much money from the federal deficit that we won't even be able to pay the interest on it anymore, and it will all collapse anyways. I say cut it now, while we can still crawl our way out of this ditch. Before it is too late.

but sees no reason not to use the government as the bully pulpit for their pet moral crusades.


But you see, there is a difference here. The conservative point of view is this... let people have the freedom to eat what they want and to exercise or not exercise and to get as fat as they want to get, but then don't ask the taxpayers to pay for their health care.

Get fat, if you want, but don't expect me to pay for it. Pay for it yourself.

Medicaid (also known as A.H.C.C.C.S. in Arizona) is paid for by taxpayers, and is given to these fat people for free, eventhough their obesity causes most of their health problems -- diabetes, heart disease, liver failure, kidney failure, cancer, etc.

The problem with government programs like this is that there is no incentive for these people to lose weight or to maintain a healthy weight at all. They aren't going to pay anything for it, so why should they care? This is unsustainable.

But if they knew they had to pay for their own healthcare, perhaps they would be more careful about what they ate and how much they ate, and maybe they would even consider the possibility of a little exercise. But I guess that is evil of me to suggest such a thing. The government can solve all of our problems.

The liberal/socialist mindset seems so wonderful, but it is simply unsustainable. There is no way to balance the budget and pay off the national debt without reducing or hopefully eliminating all entitlement programs.

The founding fathers never contemplated anything like what our Federal government has become.

We need to go back to the way it was before World War II at the very least, in terms of government spending.


Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that Michelle Obama

She's getting a bit on the chubby side by my standards. Maybe she shouldn't be eating so much ice cream?
was being roundly mocked for her opinions on childhood obesity?
It makes perfect sense- in Republican BizzaroWorld- to freak out about the goddamn gubmint gettin all up my spawn's school lunch and then turn around in twenty years and punish them for turning into little zeppelins as a result of their poor nutrition.

While we're at it, let's cut all access to sex education and birth control and simultaneously restrict access to abortion and pre/post natal care...because that is totally logical.

In accordance with the right wing's love of children (which begins at conception and ends at delivery), all school funding should be cut as well. Because an undereducated workforce will lure companies back to home soil and increase our competitive position with India and China. Yeah, that's totally how it works.

I don't know, it's kinda weird.
Viewed objectively, the right wing plans seem to result in a doughy, stupid- yet fertile!-population.
Which doesn't seem too useful for anything but extruding more conservatives.

...

[999969999]

I thought the idea of this section was to discuss the pros and cons of post subjects and not to denigrate the member(s) taking part.

The liberals can't stand any dissent from their point of view, so they try to make fun of anyone who expresses a different opinion. That's the liberal way of doing things.

[999969999]

And here's why this socialist agenda is unsustainable...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[mjmacky]

The liberals can't stand any dissent from their point of view, so they try to make fun of anyone who expresses a different opinion. That's the liberal way of doing things.
You forget I'm not a liberal. Also, making fun of idiocy isn't something owned by liberals. It's something practiced by intellectual assholes. Hi, I'm an intellectual asshole, I exist to point out flaws. You, however, make it tedious to point out the flaws in "logic", by which I mean parroted talking points. Which is why I've diverted the attention to making poignant comics.


And here's why this socialist agenda is unsustainable...
Government, by nature, is a socialist enterprise. There isn't a government in existence that doesn't have socialist aspects, and the majority budgets of most democratized nations are socialist in nature. I think you are confused as to what the term means.
If you want to rid socialism, you would have to throw out the funded government altogether. For if you privatize everything that has socialist agendas, as you had suggested, the U.S. government would cease to have a purpose (other than law creation, generally speaking).

[tokerjam]

Hi,, Nice Info, i must say if anyone want to lose his/her weight, first he should try natural way to losing fat, like, do daily exercise, eat fresh vegetable and fruits....

[mjmacky]

Hi,, Nice Info, i must say if anyone want to lose his/her weight, first he should try natural way to losing fat, like, do daily exercise, eat fresh vegetable and fruits....

Thanks for the insightful contribution rebecca black