Sheriff Joe

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Look at how they made poor old Sheriff Joe look like Hitler in this news article...

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/sheriff_joe_arpaio_doj_sneak_attack_is_just_part_of_obamas_reelection_bid_video.php


The feds are basically saying, hey, we're not going to enforce federal immigration laws, and don't you little crappy states even dare to do anything about it on your own.

I'm seriously thinking about permanently moving to Oregon, even after I graduate from college at the University of Oregon. I think the border states may be a lost cause. They're going to be overran with a flood of illegals and drug cartels, because the message is clear. Come on up here. We won't do anything to stop you.

[mjmacky]

Right, so you're for states to have more control over what goes on. Then, you expect Oregon to let you into their borders freely without having been born there?

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My guess is that you don't live in southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas. You have no idea how much these states have changed with masses of illegal aliens flooding over the borders each year. Parts of southern Arizona now have signs up telling people it is no longer safe to hike or camp in our own parks because of drug smugglers and kidnappers moving their way north from Mexico.

You're blissfully ignorant of the problem.

I plan to join you.

Oregon is far enough north so it is far enough away from the border and has an eco-nut no growth policy in place which discourages most of the illegals from coming here. For once, I'm actually glad to have eco-nut environmentalists around. Imagine that!

I am abandoning Arizona for lily white Oregon.

[mjmacky]

I yearn for blissful ignorance, I'd probably be a much happier person for it. I just don't hate Latino immigrants enough to run away from them. I also don't interpret any location I live as "mine" or only for "my people" (race or nationality), as I intend to be a permanent immigrant myself.

If I was a camping dullard, the veiled threat of kidnapping and drug smuggling might be a downer. However, if I could get away with it, I'd probably kidnap children regularly for recreational activities.

[Human_Being]

Lol

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Tell me what you think about these quotes about the "Etnic Studies" Program in Tucson...

I am bolding the areas which I feel are the most telling about this whole movement...


"Verdugo
May 6th, 2011 on 1:43 pm
Many of you disagree with Munger, and apparently anything that is in opposition to what is called “Mexican American Studies”. What’s left out of this discussion is what is actually taught in these so called “Mexican American Studies”. I’m Bolivian, so my perspective is different, but my MANY Mexican friends who were eductated in some of the best Mexican schools and colleges have NEVER heard of “Aztlan”, or a “Chicano”. History scholars don’t even agree that any such place exists, nor where it is exactly. Chicano? There’s no such race. It’s a fabricated race that perpetually whines for “justice” which really means, “you white people owe us because you stole our land from us”, along with this attitude of entitlement is the notion that it’s impossible for you as a mexican-american to ever make anything of yourself because the “white man” is oppressing you. That’s news to my many Mexican friends who are doctors, lawyers, accountants, professionals, and successful business people who got there from their own hard work, not because of MEChA.

Aztlan. Chicano. These are foriegn terms that have been fabricated by extreme leftist organizations like MEChA, who have a heavy influence in what passes for “curriculum” in the TUSD Mexican American Studies. So you dont’ call it “communisim”, you call it “social justice”, it’s the same thing, but with a noble sounding term. It’s still socialism/communism…and it has no place as a required course in a publicly funded school system. MEChA shouldn’t have the ability to radicalize impressionable young people with public funds any more than a school should allow say, the Baptist church to teach “protestant-american” studies.

If it’s Mexican history they want to teach, then it should be patterned after the history that is taught in Mexican schools, not what some leftist radicals with an agenda think it should be.

leftfield
May 6th, 2011 on 4:46 pm
This is interesting. You say you are Bolivian. Have you been in the US long? I ask because I always thought the notion of the well-to-do were that way because they were industrious and virtuous and the poor are poor because they are quite the opposite was an American invention associated with the early religious revivals. Do they have the same belief in Bolivia or did you pick that up here? Perhaps it is something still promoted in churches world-wide?

If you are a recent immigrant, I’m guessing you didn’t vote for Evo Morales?




bill
May 13th, 2011 on 1:24 pm
So what. This is the same mindless sectarianism you bring to every political discussion. Do you really think that progressives can become a majority in a democratic republic while attacking everyone who is even slightly to your left? You are complicit in the election of far right candidates by advocating such extreme positions for progressives. We don’t need to support Evo Morales and other emerging dictators in order to be progressive. This isn’t 1920, and you are not Rosa Luxemburg.





leftfield
May 13th, 2011 on 1:41 pm
“This isn’t 1920, and you are not Rosa Luxemburg.”

True and I must give you credit above your compatriats for having at least one verifiable fact in your posting.

As to the issue of electing Progressives to office in this country, your confusion is a common one. People on the right not uncommonly think that I am what might be called an “ultra-liberal”, but this is not true. While I often participate in supporting the same causes, there are important differences. Unlike the liberals that the right often refers to as being “Marxist”, I actually am a Marxist. This has many significant consequences. First, while a liberal might think the right wing is a force to be negotitated with, I think of them as an enemy to be vanquished and made irrelevant. Secondly, I do not believe, as liberals do, that with the right people in office and the right laws in place, peace and justice could prevail under the current regime. No, liberals are often my fellows, but I would see the system they support destroyed. "









Based on this article...

"Who is the real enemy of Mexican American Studies? (Hint: It ain’t me, babe.)
by Pamela Powers Hannley on May. 06, 2011, under Arizona, Arizona Legislature, democracy, Tucson, TUSD












You know how Internet surfing goes. You click here, click there and all of a sudden, you’re not in Kansas anymore. Well, that happened to me today.

I followed a few links and stumbled upon two blog posts related to John Munger’s interpretation of what is being taught in Tucson Unified School District’s Mexican American Studies (MAS) Programs. (In case you don’t know who Munger is, he’s a bigwig lawyer, former Republican candidate for governor in 2010, and former head of the Arizona GOP.)

Basically, Munger requested copies of MAS text books and wrote a critique of the curriculum based upon the text books. In his original blog post from January 2011 and in the abbreviated recent post on The Cholla Jumps blog, Munger makes a strong case that MAS courses are teaching communism. Earlier this week, I ran across this video claiming the same thing: MAS courses are teaching communism. (The Three Sonorans also stumbled upon this video and linked it here.) Now, I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist, but without even trying, I stumbled upon 3 conservative blog posts pushing the same communist indoctrination story.

Here is an excerpt from Munger’s analysis…


What they [MAS text books] did provide was a showpiece of classical Marxist oriented indoctrination of cultural and political oppression, incessant deprecation of anything not “Chicano,” including the US Constitution, capitalism, and European culture. Students are taught that they are part of an oppressed minority of “indigenous” people (how those who are principally Mexican in background are “indigenous to the Southwestern US is not explained), whose lands (California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas) have been stolen by the Europeans and should be taken back as a separate “Chicano” nation they call “Atzlan.”

They want political separation from the US based almost entirely on race and based on a Marxist economic model. Students are taught (sometimes subtly and sometimes expressly) that their “indigenous” culture has been corrupted by the predominant European culture of the US, that “Chicanos” should refuse to assimilate and instead should come together in “colonies” to exercise maximum political power until they are able to retake “Atzlan” as a separate nation— an explicitly “bronze” nation, incidentally, based almost entirely on racial profiling.

In the meantime they should recognize that capitalism is corrupt and they should work towards complete redistribution of wealth; that everyone is entitled to a home, healthcare, reasonably equal income, etc. Presumably Atzlan would be a place where Communism would finally, and happily, flourish.

Having read the books the students must read, as well as the Principles and philosophies of MEChA, I found many interesting quotes and facts.

First, there is NO book presenting American History generally, nor even the standard view of Southwestern American History—ALL the books speak solely from the point of view of the oppressed “Chicano,” with no effort to teach alternative thought or facts.

Second, the concepts and language in the materials is, frankly, classic Marxist indoctrination based on oppression and inculcation of hatred of anyone European or who might identify themselves as an American…

The results of this indoctrination are astounding. I have a photograph of one student of this program carrying a sign and protesting recently. The sign held by this student shouts in bold letters: “Dumb F*** Gringos. You Are Standing in Mexico Right Now!” Anyone who does not believe that racism, hatred, apartheid, and Marxism are being actively promulgated in these programs should think again. Every Arizonan should take the time to evaluate exactly what is being taught our children, with taxpayer money, in these Ethnic Studies programs and MecHa. [Emphasis added.]

This communism charge is significant because Arizona has laws on the books specifically prohibiting teaching communism– Arizona Revised Statute (ARS) 16-805. Arizona law has a lot to say about keeping us safe from communist indoctrination, but 16-805D is the real kicker. Basically, Arizona recognizes academic freedom– except when it comes to teaching communism.


D. It is the public policy of this state to protect the safety of the constitutional government of the state of Arizona by constitutional means and at the same time protect the rights of the members of our free society to speak, to assemble and to inquire, including the principle of academic freedom which by fostering healthy self-criticism is especially vital in the progress of man’s moral values and in man’s exploration of the secrets of the atom on this planet and in outer space. To protect the safety of this state and the right of free citizens in a free society to inquire and to understand totalitarianism, it is essential that the schools, colleges and universities teach objectively and critically the governmental and social forms of past and present totalitarian slave states, including the foreign languages spoken therein. The rights set forth in this subsection do not include the right to embrace Communism or to attempt to persuade others to embrace Communism. [Emphasis added.]

What makes all of this so dangerous for MAS is that to bring down the program the enemies don’t need HB2281 (the racist bill specifically targeting MAS and signed into law in 2010). You’ll remember that HB2281 is being challenged in court by a group of MAS teachers from TUSD. The teachers could win the battle– their discrimination suit– but lose the war if the right wingers make these communist indoctrination charges stick– either legally or in the public psyche.

These are the true enemies of MAS– not people who want to make some courses into electives. All of the wrangling about School Board President Mark Stegeman’s proposal to reorganize MAS could be irrelevant in the coming months."


Which can be found here...

http://tucsoncitizen.com/tucson-progressive/2011/05/06/who-is-the-real-enemy-of-mexican-american-studies-hint-it-aint-me-babe/#comments




What this tells me is that our fight is not just against your run of the mill liberal anymore, but rather we are in a struggle against outright communists who have one very clear goal in mind. Can you guess what that goal is?

Here, I'll help you find it...

"People on the right not uncommonly think that I am what might be called an “ultra-liberal”, but this is not true. While I often participate in supporting the same causes, there are important differences. Unlike the liberals that the right often refers to as being “Marxist”, I actually am a Marxist. This has many significant consequences. First, while a liberal might think the right wing is a force to be negotitated with, I think of them as an enemy to be vanquished and made irrelevant. Secondly, I do not believe, as liberals do, that with the right people in office and the right laws in place, peace and justice could prevail under the current regime. No, liberals are often my fellows, but I would see the system they support destroyed."

What do you think about that?