Reparations Will Do Nothing For The Poor Black Man

[muchspl2]

You take all the people that have money now

Completely level the playing field, & take money from them & give it to "the oppressed black man" & in 5 years the same people that started out with the money will have it all back.

Why do you ask?

Because they put forth the effort to make it once, & they will do it again, while less than 1% of those that receive reparations will do anything but waste the money.

Just like most lottery winners are broke in a few years

I sum this up to say this is not specific to Blacks. The same thing happens with white trash & every other poor demographic.

Those that do not work to attain possessions, care nothing for them.

Give a person in one of these demographics $5,000 & they will buy breast implants for their girlfriend, or 22" spinners for their $500 car

[hobbes]

What you need to do is sell children on the idea that school is relevant and that any individual can grow up to attend college to attain a good paying job.

This is rather difficult in the inner city where fathers are missing, your brothers are getting shot, and all you want from school is to get home alive.

[asmithz]

I wouldn't do that. I'd buy a new comp with half and invest the rest. ;)

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by muchspl2@6 December 2003 - 02:01
You take all the people that have money now

Completely level the playing field, & take money from them & give it to "the oppressed black man" & in 5 years the same people that started out with the money will have it all back.

Why do you ask?

Because they put forth the effort to make it once, & they will do it again, while less than 1% of those that receive reparations will do anything but waste the money.

Just like most lottery winners are broke in a few years

I sum this up to say this is not specific to Blacks. The same thing happens with white trash & every other poor demographic.

Those that do not work to attain possessions, care nothing for them.

Give a person in one of these demographics $5,000 & they will buy breast implants for their girlfriend, or 22" spinners for their $500 car
Your intitled to your opinion.


Peace brotherdoobie

[MagicNakor]

I'd like to see your statistics, because everything I've seen contradicts you.

:ninja:

[Billy_Dean]

Was this thread meant to be racist?

Was it also meant to imply that people are poor because they are too lazy to do anything about it?

Or was it just poorly worded?


:)

[Yogi]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean@6 December 2003 - 12:42
Was this thread meant to be racist?

Was it also meant to imply that people are poor because they are too lazy to do anything about it?

Or was it just poorly worded?


:)
A poorly worded racist piece saying people are poor because they are too lazy to do anything about it.

That sums it up.

Dumb.

Naive.

Laughable.

Yogi :angry:

[ilw]

I take it you've never seen the film Trading Places :-"

If you want to completely level the playing field you&#39;d have to give the poor people an education/expertise as good as the formerly rich people and ... hmm i had more points to make, but fuck that, i think your entire suggestion was stupid. <_<

[J'Pol]

The thread is obvious, pathetic flame bait.

The poster is a nob. There are only 2 options as I see it.

You believe the drivel you posted and the "rationale" you attempt to support it with = nob.

You posted tripe which you don&#39;t believe, for effect = nob.

Guess what, either way you are a nob. However that is only my opinion. Other people may think you are something other than a nob.

[Spider_dude]

i&#39;d have to agree he is a nob.

[Mr. Mulder]

Whats this about people being too lazy to buy playing fields?

[bujub22]

i dont think every1 will waste it.
plus this thread is just dumb and kind of racist

Iwould invest in the movie bussiness trying to make my own movies or porn
things peaple really want to see

[hobbes]

Originally posted by bujub22@6 December 2003 - 19:32
Iwould invest in the movie bussiness trying to make my own movies or porn
things peaple really want to see
A very uplifting thought, thanks for that.

[ZaZu]

Reparations Will Do Nothing For The Poor Black Man

It would give him Reparations <_<

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by hobbes+6 December 2003 - 19:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 6 December 2003 - 19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bujub22@6 December 2003 - 19:32
Iwould invest in the movie bussiness trying to make my own movies or porn
things peaple really want to see
A very uplifting thought, thanks for that. [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You&#39;ve been hobbesed.

You are a hob nob.

[Yogi]

Cambridge Dictionary:

Definition
nob
noun [C] UK OLD-FASHIONED INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
a rich person whose family has been important for a long time

TopNobYogi

[bigboab]

Originally posted by SensualGardening@6 December 2003 - 19:10
Cambridge Dictionary:

Definition
nob
noun [C] UK OLD-FASHIONED INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
a rich person whose family has been important for a long time

TopNobYogi
That must have been a shock to find that as the definition of &#39;NOB&#39; SG. :D

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by SensualGardening@6 December 2003 - 20:10

TopNobYogi
You assume I was talking in English - what a nob :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Yogi]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+6 December 2003 - 21:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 6 December 2003 - 21:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SensualGardening@6 December 2003 - 20:10

TopNobYogi
You assume I was talking in English - what a nob :lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
Ohhh, that sweet feeling of introspection.

@BigBoab:

That must have been a shock to find that as the definition of &#39;NOB&#39; SG.

No, more like finally i have a short suitable definition for myself. Finally&#33;&#33;
JPol works miracles.

Yogi2. :P

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by SensualGardening@6 December 2003 - 20:22

Ohhh, that sweet feeling of introspection.


Nice word and indeed sentence, very good work I like the style.

Your work in inder-rated.

[Yogi]

Your work in inder-rated.

:blink:

[UKMan]

one thread that deserves to be flamed, fried, puked on and shut down.

[Yogi]

I thought we covered all that........

But please feel free&#33;&#33;&#33;

Yogi

[mustangchang]

Reparations are a joke. If they give black people their Reparation then they would have to give them to everyone who has been fucked over by the WASP&#39;s of america since this this country started....

[sirhumpalot1996]

my opintion is this at the time when they promise 50 acres and a mule there was around 1 to 2 million blacks living in the usa use the 2 million fig. muilipy that with the value of the 50 acres and the mule back then and spread it equaly among all the black alive in the usa and it will come out to about a dollar a person now that be fair and this issue be over with

[UKMan]

Originally posted by SensualGardening@6 December 2003 - 22:22
I thought we covered all that........

But please feel free&#33;&#33;&#33;

Yogi
Not whilst i have innocent children in my sig Yogi ;)

BTW Yogi - pm for ya :ph34r:

Peace
UKMan

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by sirhumpalot1996@7 December 2003 - 00:49
my opintion is this at the time when they promise 50 acres and a mule there was around 1 to 2 million blacks living in the usa use the 2 million fig. muilipy that with the value of the 50 acres and the mule back then and spread it equaly among all the black alive in the usa and it will come out to about a dollar a person now that be fair and this issue be over with
Look - a talking arse.

[internet.news]

Originally posted by muchspl2@6 December 2003 - 08:01
You take all the people that have money now

Completely level the playing field, & take money from them & give it to "the oppressed black man" & in 5 years the same people that started out with the money will have it all back.

Why do you ask?

Because they put forth the effort to make it once, & they will do it again, while less than 1% of those that receive reparations will do anything but waste the money.

Just like most lottery winners are broke in a few years

I sum this up to say this is not specific to Blacks. The same thing happens with white trash & every other poor demographic.

Those that do not work to attain possessions, care nothing for them.

Give a person in one of these demographics &#036;5,000 & they will buy breast implants for their girlfriend, or 22" spinners for their &#036;500 car
sure sure ...

but one thing you cannot expect of each one as ppl are just humans: not everyone wants to donate- that is sad. That is why I am happy if ppl would donate.

acres: 1 dollar it is not much. What can you buy for one dollar?

Do you know Bill Gates has over 40 Milliarden (german) &#036; Dollar. No one else,
eithe the richest ppl in germany nor these in siwitzerland could reach at least the half.

Cool. And Windows is still there.

[Spider_dude]

he actually has 11.5 billion last time i counted.

[sirhumpalot1996]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+6 December 2003 - 18:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 6 December 2003 - 18:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sirhumpalot1996@7 December 2003 - 00:49
my opintion is this at the time&nbsp; when they promise 50 acres and a mule there was around 1 to&nbsp; 2 million blacks living in the usa use the 2 million fig. muilipy that with the&nbsp; value of the 50 acres and the mule back then and spread it equaly among all the black alive in the usa and it will come out to about a dollar a person now that be fair and this issue be over with
Look - a talking arse. [/b][/quote]
well let me ask you this if someone was going to give you 50 dollars and you die you think they going to give 50 dollars to each of your kids no it will go to your estate and divide equaly among your kids so you need to get common sense there

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by muchspl2@6 December 2003 - 00:01
"the oppressed black man"



I sum this up to say this is not specific to Blacks



22" spinners
if it is not to Blacks then why say "oppressed" Black man" and not just the oppresed man? i think you have some racisl issues beneath you that you should sort out before judgeing someone cause that does effect your judgement when your close minded

[sirhumpalot1996]

i fig. this would be a hot topic but i guess not :huh:

[Gemby!]

they made germany pay reparations after ww1

oh how wonderful are my history lessons :P

[dwightfry]

I saw a black stand up comedian a few weeks ago that said that black men buy expensive stuff whether they have the money or not. He said, "You won&#39;t see a poor white guy with an &#036;800 jersey," or something like that. It seems to me that if the oppressed don&#39;t like there situation, they could get out of it, with or without reparations. Where I live they don&#39;t have many black people, and I have never been to any slums, so I am a little ignorant of how it is really like, but commen sense is telling me that over half don&#39;t want to get out of it and that is what is keeping the others down, not the white man.

Please don&#39;t flame me. :ph34r:

[MagicNakor]

And we all know comedians always tell the truth. ;)

:ninja:

[bigboab]

Who is this Arations rep that is getting all this money.

[Sid Hartha]

Originally posted by muchspl2+6 December 2003 - 07:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 &#064; 6 December 2003 - 07:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Because they put forth the effort to make it once, & they will do it again...[/b]
Does this include people born into wealth?
<!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@6 December 2003 - 07:01
Just like most lottery winners are broke in a few years...[/quote]
Incorrect.

[Sid Hartha]

Originally posted by dwightfry+11 December 2003 - 12:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dwightfry &#064; 11 December 2003 - 12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Where I live they don&#39;t have many black people...[/b]
Maybe this explains your lack of insight.
<!--QuoteBegin-dwightfry@11 December 2003 - 12:11
...so I am a little ignorant of how it is really like...[/quote]

I like how you twice explain how ignorant you are, yet feel it necessary to chime in. "Common sense" should have stopped you from posting.

[dwightfry]

Originally posted by Sid Hartha+11 December 2003 - 09:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sid Hartha &#064; 11 December 2003 - 09:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by dwightfry@11 December 2003 - 12:11
Where I live they don&#39;t have many black people...
Maybe this explains your lack of insight.
<!--QuoteBegin-dwightfry@11 December 2003 - 12:11
...so I am a little ignorant of how it is really like...

I like how you twice explain how ignorant you are, yet feel it necessary to chime in. "Common sense" should have stopped you from posting. [/b][/quote]
When did I say it twice? All I did was show that I&#39;m not racist and this is how I see things. I admitted I could be wrong, but I have no reason to believe otherwise.

I may not live there, but I do know what I see on the news. And generally comedians are the ones that &#39;tell it as it is&#39;, especially if it&#39;s a black man saying it. If Chris Rock tells me that they need to wise up then why shouldn&#39;t I believe him?

If I am wrong, then explain to me how it really is, don&#39;t just tell me I&#39;m wrong.

Are you saying that they have absolutly no control over their situation? Do you believe that it isn&#39;t there fault, that they are being held down by another race?

Explain how it really is.

(If I hadn&#39;t chimed in, I would continue being ignorant. I did nothing wrong.)

[Sid Hartha]

Originally posted by dwightfry@11 December 2003 - 16:07
I may not live there, but I do know what I see on the news.
Why didn&#39;t you say so in the first place?

[dwightfry]

Originally posted by Sid Hartha+11 December 2003 - 10:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sid Hartha @ 11 December 2003 - 10:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-dwightfry@11 December 2003 - 16:07
I may not live there, but I do know what I see on the news.
Why didn&#39;t you say so in the first place? [/b][/quote]
So now that I say I have seen it on the news, I may be right?

[Sid Hartha]

Originally posted by dwightfry+11 December 2003 - 16:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dwightfry @ 11 December 2003 - 16:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Sid Hartha@11 December 2003 - 10:11
<!--QuoteBegin-dwightfry@11 December 2003 - 16:07
I may not live there, but I do know what I see on the news.
Why didn&#39;t you say so in the first place?
So now that I say I have seen it on the news, I may be right? [/b][/quote]
Just kidding.

Personally, I&#39;m against the idea (reparations). Not because it&#39;s undeserved, but because it won&#39;t work - it&#39;s economically impractical. You can&#39;t put some arbitrary dollar amount on what happened so long ago. It insults the real victims. And for other reasons.

But this thread isn&#39;t really about that. The intent here seems to be to stir up a whole bunch of racial bullshit.
The Chris Rock joke could just as easily be applied to anyone who belongs to the "underclass". People who don&#39;t see any long-term prosperity tend to spend disproportionately on frivolous items (&#036;800 jacket), lottery tickets etc. This has nothing to do with reparations IMO. I respect Chris Rock - even agree with his politics - but he isn&#39;t above going for the cheap joke.

Not all black people are poor. The reparations issue (which I&#39;m against) wasn&#39;t intended to address poverty.

[mustangchang]

I look at it like this why should I have to pay with my tax dollars for something me nor my ancestors did, its completely ridiculous <_< .......

[hobbes]

So why did you ancestors come here?

Surely the opportunities provided here are the result of the hardwork done by the people that preceded the arrivial of your ancestors. You reap the rewards of the past and accept them without a thought, but you must also accept the sins as well. When you become an American, you must recognize that the "sins of the father (metaphorically) are inherited upon the son".

I don&#39;t disagree with reparations in theory, I think it would, however; effect no real change. It all goes back to that "Give someone a meal and his belly is full today, teach someone to farm....".

Our policies are inconsistent though, as Japanese-Americans held in camps during WW2 were given reparations for their imprisonment. In fact, this probably started the whole issue anyway. Hey, the Japanese got paid, why not us?

Yeah, why not?

[dwightfry]

Just kidding.


Yeah...I don&#39;t want to argue about it either. If you weren&#39;t going to stop it this time, I was going to. No hard feelings. ;)



Japanese-Americans held in camps during WW2 were given reparations

Like it said earlier, the blacks were promised reparations when they were freed. We didn&#39;t pay up. At first I agreed with the idea that they would have had to split up there belongings to there children so therfore it ends up being a dollar a piece, but not anymore. We promised them and didn&#39;t pay up, then we still owe with interest and inflation so it would still be a lot more then &#036;1. Unfortunatly, then they would have done something with it. Material things met very little back then (Compared to now), it was all survival. They had kids to helps with the farms and support the family. I think kids grew up too fast back then, but now they grow up to slow. Anyways...back to my point, it would have helped them out tremedously back then, but now, probably not. We fucked up.