Is This The ;ast We Are Going To See Of K-lite :(

[wwfc_barmy_army]

Will we never see k-lite again? :(

Pete.

[ScotchGuy]

No.

[Proper Bo]

Well I'm glad that's sorted :rolleyes:

[Snee]

Assuming they haven't found a way to kick out users with existing versions of K++,
just get an old version. Or a better p2p app. :)

[Gemby!]

what you people on about ?

[Snee]

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/12052003h.php

:(

[Gemby!]

does that mean the board shuts down ? :(

[Snee]

This day it doesn't :)

EDit: made an unintentional double negation. :rolleyes:

[Evil Gemini]

If Klite does go down we should all team up with the RIAA and other anti P2P orgs and fuck Sharman Networks right up.

Bunch of hipocrit wankers i hope they get lepracy

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[DarthInsinuate]

Originally posted by neattairoski@7 December 2003 - 12:41
If Klite does go down we should all team up with the RIAA and other anti P2P orgs and fuck Sharman Networks right up.
but if you did that then you wouln't be able to share at all - you're not taking the news very well, there are better P2P networks than Fasttrack

[Evil Gemini]

No No. I just meant to bring down S N on their ass because they are being wankers

I dont really use Klite to download things.



RatFaced said that the decision was “Ironic, that Kazaa is complaining about copyright issues, especially as K-Lite ++ stands for everything that Kazaa CLAIMS to stand for... but fails to deliver.”

[shinzuiski]

Ok Ok, is the fastrack network being shutdown ? or the kazaa-lite program ? ?

[kalashnikov]

maybe if it shuts down the whole forum should just be about bit torrent as not many use kazaa anyways

[racer II]

Originally posted by shinzuiski@7 December 2003 - 15:32
Ok Ok, is the fastrack network being shutdown ? or the kazaa-lite program ? ?
Nope ,just no new versions of klite. :(

[sharedholder]

Sharman want to release a new version of Kazaa that block K-Lite .So fuck Sharman. :angry:

[scribblec]

Today, Kazaa Lite K++ fans discovered that virtually every download mirror of this client has been eliminated, including links on its home page. Sharman went to the ISP of every website that hosted Kazaa Lite K++ and ordered its removal via the DMCA. Any mention of Kazaa Lite K++ on the homepage has been ominously replaced with links to eMule, BitTorrent and SoulSeek.

A representative of Sharman Networks spoke to us on the condition of anonymity regarding their current campaign to vanquish Kazaa Lite K++.

Not only has Sharman Networks succeeded in eliminating nearly every major resource of Kazaa Lite K++, they are systematically forcing it off the network.

How you ask?

Recent upgrades to Kazaa clients (2.5 and higher) make them less tolerant with outdated or non official clients such as Kazaa Lite K++. Kazaa Lite is based on a version prior to 2.5, therefore a current supernode will not accept its shares. Although this will cause network headaches in terms of traffic, the client will not be able to participate or download off the main FastTrack network. This will effectively cluster and isolate all modified Kazaa clients from FastTrack.

Well, won't Kazaa Lite clients simply form their own sub-FastTrack network?

Sounds nice, but no. Unfortunately, the developers of Kazaa Lite helped Sharman out tremendously by disabling the supernode function. Very few users who run this client are acting as supernodes. A decentralized P2P network with all clients and no supernodes cannot exist. The effects of this extermination is already taking place, as search times and connection times are deteriorating compared to K+ (the legitimate spyware/adware free version of Kazaa.)

As time progresses, the Kazaa Lite K++ client will become so unusable that its populace will be driven off the network. This latest act from Sharman punctuates a long history of hypocrisy that involves the protection of their own intellectual property rights, yet blatantly ignoring the copyrights of others.

Perhaps RatFaced, a Kazaa Lite K++ forum mod said it best, “Ironic, that Kazaa is complaining about copyright issues, especially as K-Lite ++ stands for everything that Kazaa CLAIMS to stand for... but fails to deliver.”

DietK anyone?

[J'Pol]

Forgive the obvious question, but if K+ is spyware and adware free, what's the problem with using it.

[scribblec]

Originally posted by J'Pol@7 December 2003 - 16:21
Forgive the obvious question, but if K+ is spyware and adware free, what's the problem with using it.
sharman doesn't like the idea that we are using a program which has no adverts

no adverts means no customers so adverts = money and if everyone is using lite then they get none and become unhappy

they are pulling out all stops to stop this program from actually staying afloat

i will upgrade to 2.6 but wheres the clean version :huh:

[Snee]

Can't we clean KaZAaA ourselves? :huh:

It's been done before.

Thataway, we could download Sharman's latest stuff and still use it as K-Lite.

We'd need dummy-files though, to make it as simple as possible, but that's all we'd need to download. We could have a K-lite mod-pack or something, instead of a full proggie. :unsure:

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by scribblec+7 December 2003 - 17:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scribblec &#064; 7 December 2003 - 17:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@7 December 2003 - 16:21
Forgive the obvious question, but if K+ is spyware and adware free, what&#39;s the problem with using it.
sharman doesn&#39;t like the idea that we are using a program which has no adverts

no adverts means no customers so adverts = money and if everyone is using lite then they get none and become unhappy

they are pulling out all stops to stop this program from actually staying afloat

i will upgrade to 2.6 but wheres the clean version :huh: [/b][/quote]
Exactly, where&#39;s the clean version that is mentioned in the article.


The effects of this extermination is already taking place, as search times and connection times are deteriorating compared to K+ (the legitimate spyware/adware free version of Kazaa.)

Is that from Sharman, if so what&#39;s the point. Surely they need the adverts for their business model to work, as you so rightly point out.

I cannot understand why they would produce a spyware/adware free version. There must be something I am missing.

[scribblec]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+7 December 2003 - 16:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 7 December 2003 - 16:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by scribblec@7 December 2003 - 17:23
<!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@7 December 2003 - 16:21
Forgive the obvious question, but if K+ is spyware and adware free, what&#39;s the problem with using it.
sharman doesn&#39;t like the idea that we are using a program which has no adverts

no adverts means no customers so adverts = money and if everyone is using lite then they get none and become unhappy

they are pulling out all stops to stop this program from actually staying afloat

i will upgrade to 2.6 but wheres the clean version :huh:
Exactly, where&#39;s the clean version that is mentioned in the article.


The effects of this extermination is already taking place, as search times and connection times are deteriorating compared to K+ (the legitimate spyware/adware free version of Kazaa.)

Is that from Sharman, if so what&#39;s the point. Surely they need the adverts for their business model to work, as you so rightly point out.

I cannot understand why they would produce a spyware/adware free version. There must be something I am missing. [/b][/quote]
THEY WANT MONEY


MONEY DOES NOT GROW ON TREES

adverts equals money


more adverts more money

no adverts no money



capiece?

[J'Pol]

I&#39;m talking about


compared to K+ (the legitimate spyware/adware free version of Kazaa.)


which is in your post and implies that there is a legitimate spyware/adware free version.

I just wondered why they would produce such a thing.

I do understand how advertising generates income, I did mention their business model a few posts ago.

[Kunal]

@ J&#39;Pol, sharmen produce a ad-free version to make money also, they charge &#036;30 for the privlage...

@ scribblec, kazaa 2.6 has a loader now (made by rn), so its pretty clean now as no dlls are loaded and no spyware is needed for it to work :)

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Kunal@7 December 2003 - 18:04
@ J&#39;Pol, sharmen produce a ad-free version to make money also, they charge &#036;30 for the privlage...

@ scribblec, kazaa 2.6 has a loader now (made by rn), so its pretty clean now as no dlls are loaded and no spyware is needed for it to work :)
Thanks for that.

[scribblec]

Originally posted by Kunal@7 December 2003 - 17:04
@ J&#39;Pol, sharmen produce a ad-free version to make money also, they charge &#036;30 for the privlage...

@ scribblec, kazaa 2.6 has a loader now (made by rn), so its pretty clean now as no dlls are loaded and no spyware is needed for it to work :)
where can i get this 2.6?

[sharedholder]

Originally posted by scribblec+7 December 2003 - 17:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scribblec @ 7 December 2003 - 17:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kunal@7 December 2003 - 17:04
@ J&#39;Pol, sharmen produce a ad-free version to make money also, they charge &#036;30 for the privlage...

@ scribblec, kazaa 2.6 has a loader now (made by rn), so its pretty clean now as no dlls are loaded and no spyware is needed for it to work&nbsp; :)
where can i get this 2.6? [/b][/quote]
Sharman is a fuckin&#39; liar Kazaa Plus (http://www.kazaaplus.com/) is not really CLEAN (http://www.kazaaplus.com/privacy.htm)


Altnet

Kazaa Plus regularly downloads an index of available Altnet content. This index contains a list of available rights managed files and can in no way alter Kazaa Plus or any other part of your computer. Kazaa Plus downloads this file without collecting any information about you or your computer. When you install Kazaa Plus, you also install the Altnet Peer Points Manager software. Should you wish to participate in the programs offered through the Altnet Peer Points Manager software, you will have to supply information which is governed by the Altnet Privacy Statement. To read the full Altnet Privacy Statement please visit: http://www.altnet.com/privacy/

[thewizeard]

@ scribblec, kazaa 2.6 has a loader now (made by rn), so its pretty clean now as no dlls are loaded and no spyware is needed for it to work


Made by RN? Kunal, Are you insinuating that RN or Random_Nut is working for Sharman? If not how did Sharman get hold of it?&#33;&#33;&#33;

[j4y3m]

Everyone Put A Copy Of K-Lite In Your shared Folder Quick And Start Sharin They Can&#39;t Kill A Program :blink: Abnd Be A Suprnode Everyone&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Kunal]

Originally posted by nigel123@7 December 2003 - 20:26
Made by RN? Kunal, Are you insinuating that RN or Random_Nut is working for Sharman? If not how did Sharman get hold of it?&#33;&#33;&#33;
did i say anything of the sort? i said (well meant to) that rn made a loader (similar to k++) that blocks thrid party dll&#39;s etc

Link (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=85816&st=0)

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Kunal+7 December 2003 - 19:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kunal @ 7 December 2003 - 19:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@7 December 2003 - 20:26
Made by RN? Kunal, Are you insinuating that RN or Random_Nut is working for Sharman? If not how did Sharman get hold of it?&#33;&#33;&#33;
did i say anything of the sort? i said (well meant to) that rn made a loader (similar to k++) that blocks thrid party dll&#39;s etc

Link (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=85816&st=0) [/b][/quote]
Right I have read it and now understand you&#33; :)

[lynx]

Originally posted by nigel123@7 December 2003 - 18:26

@ scribblec, kazaa 2.6 has a loader now (made by rn), so its pretty clean now as no dlls are loaded and no spyware is needed for it to work


Made by RN? Kunal, Are you insinuating that RN or Random_Nut is working for Sharman? If not how did Sharman get hold of it?&#33;&#33;&#33;
He means RN has written a loader which cuts out a lot of the other crap which comes with KMD 2.6 (such as gator). All you need is to drop the Kazaa.exe from KMD 2.6 and the new klr.exe into your existing K++ program folder, and run klr.exe

[rafi_d]

Originally posted by lynx@7 December 2003 - 21:03
All you need is to drop the Kazaa.exe from KMD 2.6 and the new klr.exe into your existing K++ program folder, and run klr.exe
Unfortunately - it crashes under Win 98 :(

[iSE]

Lots of things crash under Win 98, thats why ppl upgraded to Win 2K/XP

[rafi_d]

Originally posted by iSE@8 December 2003 - 01:42
Lots of things crash under Win 98, thats why ppl upgraded to Win 2K/XP
Well, did you try them on PII 400MHZ ? Yes, some of us still have those slow machines... :(
I hope someone will adopt the loader to Win98 &#33;

[shinzuiski]

i never upgrade my kazaa. i dont see the point of it. so i guess its all good for me :)

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by shinzuiski@8 December 2003 - 08:04
i never upgrade my kazaa. i dont see the point of it. so i guess its all good for me :)
you use normale kazaa :o

[MediaSlayer]

Originally posted by SnnY@7 December 2003 - 16:28
Can&#39;t we clean KaZAaA ourselves? :huh:

It&#39;s been done before.

Thataway, we could download Sharman&#39;s latest stuff and still use it as K-Lite.

We&#39;d need dummy-files though, to make it as simple as possible, but that&#39;s all we&#39;d need to download. We could have a K-lite mod-pack or something, instead of a full proggie. :unsure:
yes, you can snny. i have never installed k-lite once the whole time i&#39;ve been posting on this forum. i use the dummy cydoor file from www.cexx.org , the relevant html page is www.cexx.org/neuter.htm. the one that talks about cydoor is www.cexx.org/cydoor.htm.basically, just remember to stick with an old version of kazaa. i use kazaa2.11

here is what i do:

first i install regular kazaa2.11 , immediately clease all the spy crap completely except cydoor.

install the dope wars update available from cexx. here is a direct download, WARNING&#33; do NOT click this link unless you want to download the update
dope wars link (ftp://www.cydoor-download.com/01DopeWars_update.exe)

ok the update supposedly installs the dummy cydoor file to your computer, so kazaa still works, but no ads. i never get any pop up ads with kazaa.

enjoy&#33;

[shinzuiski]

i use kazaa lite, but i dont see the point in putting the lite part at the end since its the same damn program.

[Evil Gemini]

Originally posted by shinzuiski@8 December 2003 - 13:40
i use kazaa lite, but i dont see the point in putting the lite part at the end since its the same damn program.
:o

[lynx]

Originally posted by MediaSlayer+8 December 2003 - 06:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MediaSlayer &#064; 8 December 2003 - 06:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SnnY@7 December 2003 - 16:28
Can&#39;t we clean KaZAaA ourselves? :huh:

It&#39;s been done before.

Thataway, we could download Sharman&#39;s latest stuff and still use it as K-Lite.

We&#39;d need dummy-files though, to make it as simple as possible, but that&#39;s all we&#39;d need to download. We could have a K-lite mod-pack or something, instead of a full proggie.&nbsp; :unsure:
yes, you can snny. i have never installed k-lite once the whole time i&#39;ve been posting on this forum. i use the dummy cydoor file from www.cexx.org , the relevant html page is www.cexx.org/neuter.htm. the one that talks about cydoor is www.cexx.org/cydoor.htm.basically, just remember to stick with an old version of kazaa. i use kazaa2.11

here is what i do:

first i install regular kazaa2.11 , immediately clease all the spy crap completely except cydoor.

install the dope wars update available from cexx. here is a direct download, WARNING&#33; do NOT click this link unless you want to download the update
dope wars link (ftp://www.cydoor-download.com/01DopeWars_update.exe)

ok the update supposedly installs the dummy cydoor file to your computer, so kazaa still works, but no ads. i never get any pop up ads with kazaa.

enjoy&#33; [/b][/quote]
The dummy clint.dll doesn&#39;t work with the latest kmd.

Edit: and searches are failing on out-of-date versions connected to new version supernodes, which kinda forces everyone to update to kmd2.6.

[rafi_d]

Originally posted by lynx@8 December 2003 - 14:42

Edit: and searches are failing on out-of-date versions connected to new version supernodes, which kinda forces everyone to update to kmd2.6.
So, again, we need the 2.6 Lite &#33;&#33;&#33; someone HAS to help and do it (improve the klr loader that Random-Nut built, or use Kazaa Plus as a base)

[SlimShady]

I hope the developers continue to work on a new version of Kazaa Lite,
that&#39;s based on KMD 2.6.

[TheDave]

my current k-lite seems to work fine :blink:

[MediaSlayer]

my 2.11 dope wars updated one worked fine when i used it like a week ago or so. :blink:

[lynx]

I haven&#39;t used K++ for a while until yesterday. Tried a search, and got nothing for quite a few minutes. Then it went offline and came back again (obviously switching supernodes) and all of a sudden got some responses, although not as many as I was expecting. About 100 results after 5 mins in total.

I can only assume I was originally connected to a 2.6 supernode, then switched to an older one.

I also wonder how this is likely to affect users of other clients.

I then tried the kazaa.exe from kmd2.6, with RN&#39;s klr.exe.

I repeated the search from before and immediately started getting lots of results. I ended up with about 600 results in about 2 minutes. So something has definitely changed, and only very recently.

[backlash]

I have a question. I, obviously, have this site saved (forum)..but if I didn&#39;t, how would I find it? I don&#39;t see a link to the forum on the main site anywhere. Am I overlooking it?