Urgent: Everyone Switch On Supernode Setting!

[mcrosby]

Kazaa Lite has supernode off by default in its settings, and the new Kazaa is no longer communicating with "older clients", therefore we wont have a network if we don't all switch on our supernode option right now, because we have been using the official kazaa's supernodes beforehand, so switch on the option now and hopefully we can save our network! :-)

[MadDog-2000]

There are like dozens of posts already on this topic and guess what, many people have already turned this option on but it won't save our network, it will just postpone its end.

I havn't used K-Lite in a really long time because I don't need it anymore, there are better P2P networks out there. If Sharmon Networks wants to have its crapy P2P network back, then so be it. FastTrack is filled with fakes, viruses and RIAA spies anyway, so why would any smart person want to join it?

[james_bond_rulez]

klite looks fine to me... <_<

[MadDog-2000]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 December 2003 - 17:28
klite looks fine to me... <_<


for now...

[hitokri]

Originally posted by MadDog&#045;2000@11 December 2003 - 21:09
There are like dozens of posts already on this topic and guess what, many people have already turned this option on but it won&#39;t save our network, it will just postpone its end.

I havn&#39;t used K-Lite in a really long time because I don&#39;t need it anymore, there are better P2P networks out there. If Sharmon Networks wants to have its crapy P2P network back, then so be it. FastTrack is filled with fakes, viruses and RIAA spies anyway, so why would any smart person want to join it?
How do you propose that switching supernode on will postpone its end? If the kl community seperates from the KMD community, we will have a higher quality p2p network, as generally, the quality files are shared via klite clients. So our sub-network on FastTrack will be not-so-full of fakes. Those who use KMD and don&#39;t take necessary precautions (PGIPDB, Firewall), are the people RIAA is most likely to catch, as they are careless.

But, you do have a point. Some other P2P networks are not as full of viruses/trojans/fakes/corrupted files as fast track, yet they do not have as many quality files avaliable for download.

So, its a tradeoff. If we move our files, we, in turn, move the crap files with us indirectly. If we dont, klite will eventually become filled with crap files.

On other P2P networks: We seed the other p2p networks with our quality files. But then, those networks recieve more crap files because more people are connecting to them.

On Kazaa: We create a sub-network on FastTrack network, More quality files and at the same time, less crap files, and then patch klite to only accept other Klite clients, therefore reducing the amount of quality files on regular KMD drasticly, causing KMD users to move to different p2p networks due to the lack of quality files on sharman KMD. As sharman generates profits via ad-ware/spy-ware bundled with KMD, and profits are based soley on their customer base, the company will eventually go out of business when not enough users use KMD.

[isepiq]

I just checked my Klite++. It had over 3 million users, connected, did a search and downloaded just like usual. ???????????

[guit_steel]

It&#39;s been reported that KMD 2.6 will not even recognize KL supernodes. If this is correct then turning on supernode is akin to spitting into the wind.

Do any of the mods or devs know if this is true? Will KL supernodes even be recognized? Thanx.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by guit_steel@12 December 2003 - 12:41
It&#39;s been reported that KMD 2.6 will not even recognize KL supernodes. If this is correct then turning on supernode is akin to spitting into the wind.

Do any of the mods or devs know if this is true? Will KL supernodes even be recognized? Thanx.
Yes bij other K-Lite users...

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by guit_steel@12 December 2003 - 12:41
It&#39;s been reported that KMD 2.6 will not even recognize KL supernodes.&nbsp; If this is correct then turning on supernode is akin to spitting into the wind.

Do any of the mods or devs know if this is true?&nbsp; Will KL supernodes even be recognized?&nbsp; Thanx.
Yes, by other k-lite users, older versions of kazaa, Grockster, iMesh....



Its nice to see so many k-lite ++ users downloading from me (must be in excess of 60% at moment)...and the files im downloading?....the speed is down slightly, the quality of the files is way up...

[guit_steel]

Then I&#39;ll leave the node on since I&#39;m only interested in sharing my files with KL users anyway. This may be better in a way since there will be less leeching. I rarely dl from FT so it&#39;ll be nice to know that the files I supply for ul are going to those committed to sharing.

[MadDog-2000]

Originally posted by hitokri@11 December 2003 - 18:18
How do you propose that switching supernode on will postpone its end? If the kl community seperates from the KMD community, we will have a higher quality p2p network, as generally, the quality files are shared via klite clients. So our sub-network on FastTrack will be not-so-full of fakes. Those who use KMD and don&#39;t take necessary precautions (PGIPDB, Firewall), are the people RIAA is most likely to catch, as they are careless.
KMD 2.6 is out and the more people download and update to it, the more problems people using K-Lite will have. Right now it still works normal but when most people have switched to KMD 2.6 or higher, all that will be left is your small sub-network. This small sub-network might survive for some time but I doubt that it will last. There is of course a slim chance that this small sub-network will flourish but Sharman Networks will probably try to eliminate it.

[Party]

..you mean there are still many stupid chumps out there that willingly download spyware-infested programs?

[BawA]

these days iam getting about 52kb for some files, how u people can say kl is dead :blink:

[mcrosby]

Originally posted by MadDog&#045;2000@15 December 2003 - 00:16
[QUOTE=KMD 2.6 is out and the more people download and update to it, the more problems people using K-Lite will have. Right now it still works normal but when most people have switched to KMD 2.6 or higher, all that will be left is your small sub-network. This small sub-network might survive for some time but I doubt that it will last. There is of course a slim chance that this small sub-network will flourish but Sharman Networks will probably try to eliminate it. [/quote]
Hang on... How many K-Lite users do you think are on the network? I believe that a K-Lite only network is the best thing that could happen to us - Sharman will never be able to stop other Fasttrack clients from connecting to us either.

All Sharman are going to achieve is having two networks - us with our superior file quality, and them with their fakes and viruses&#33; Who looses out? Only time will tell, but for gods sake, don&#39;t give up - switch on the supernode and lets get this network working&#33;

[BxBoy]

I will switch mine on, hopefully something good can come of it.

[CornerPocket]

Originally posted by Party@15 December 2003 - 02:38
..you mean there are still many stupid chumps out there that willingly download spyware-infested programs?
I wouldn&#39;t label them as &#39;stupid chumps&#39;. Many of them are members here, bad choice of words in my book. I still use it from time to time, I&#39;m certainly not stupid. http://www.eclipseforums.org/forum/images/smilies/thefinger.gif

[cosmic doobie]

For the CHUMP who called everyone a CHUMP:
http://www.dsi.org/products/images/lamb_chump_3270.jpg

You can always remove the spyware anyhow - saves on any infestation.

[jesper_t]

We just got the news a few days ago. Why panic?
Turning the supernode function on is fine, makes everything work smoother.
I am sure someone will be able and capable to follow up RandomNut&#39;s excellent
K++ with a v. 2.60 and 3.0 and so on. Have patience. Sharman Networks haven&#39;t won yet&#33; :)

[jayBdey]

So what&#39;s to stop someone from taking the new version of KMD and making it into a new version of K-Lite?

[MadDog-2000]

Originally posted by mcrosby@15 December 2003 - 13:45
Hang on...&nbsp; How many K-Lite users do you think are on the network?&nbsp; I believe that a K-Lite only network is the best thing that could happen to us - Sharman will never be able to stop other Fasttrack clients from connecting to us either.

All Sharman are going to achieve is having two networks - us with our superior file quality, and them with their fakes and viruses&#33;&nbsp; Who looses out?&nbsp; Only time will tell, but for gods sake, don&#39;t give up - switch on the supernode and lets get this network working&#33;
I know as a fact that there are considerably less K-Lite users than KMD users&#33; Weeks before this little incident people like you proclaimed that K-Lite is unstoppable and that the RIAA and others might be able to scare us but not stop us. Well, now it seems like they did stopped us (to a certain point anyway) by prohibiting the download of K-Lite from many web sites. Now they are also trying to get the K-Lite clients of the network.

I don&#39;t know where this will end but things usually don&#39;t turn out as we like them to (remember Napster and Morpheus). Morpheus is not dead either but in many people&#39;s minds it died when they got kicked from FastTrack. And if they can do that to Morpheus, why shoudn&#39;t Sharman be able to do it to K-Lite too?


So what&#39;s to stop someone from taking the new version of KMD and making it into a new version of K-Lite?

I hope they continue to develop K-Lite as KMD advanves because if they do there won&#39;t be any problems with K-Lite clients getting kicked off the network, since it contains the same code as KMD.

[Switeck]

Firstly, not EVERYONE should turn on the supernode function.

Only those with at least 4 KB/sec upload to spare and probably 20+ KB/sec download to spare (not that that&#39;s a problem if you can&#39;t find files to download...)

We need GOOD supernodes, not ones that overload when 100+ connections are made to it per second&#33;

Do NOT turn on become a supernode if on Win 95, 98, 98SE, or ME&#33; They are not designed to handle more than 100 connections at once, the MINIMUM for an ok supernode. (Let alone a GOOD one which might have 200+ nodes connected to it&#33;)

ALSO, get an updated anti-RIAA blocklist and turn on RIAA blocking. THEN, everyone who&#39;s connected as a node to you will be safer from the RIAA even if they themselves are NOT blocking RIAA&#39;s ips&#33;

[DarkReality]

Hey, if someone&#39;s using KMD insteak of KLK++, and they know about KLK++, to me that suggests an intelligence deficit.

Therefore, I believe we should tell as many people as we can about KLK++. I&#39;ve turned a half dozen or so people. They saw KLK++ on scam sites and didn&#39;t want to pay for the better one. So they just used KMD. But I game them the site address, and they got KLK++ for free, and are now very happy with it.

That&#39;s what we should be doing. If Sharman is going to cut off the KLK++ users, we should have a tool, that cancels transfers to ANYONE with a network name of @Kazaa. The KLK++ default is something else, but I change it. Mine is 247DSLFileServer. As long as it&#39;s ot @Kazaa, we share.

Push does come to shove people. When Sharman was cool, we were cool. If Sharman wants to push, we push back. It&#39;s clear Sharman is no different from the RIAA. They want to end free file sharing. Or did you not hear that they&#39;re trying to go legit, which is why they&#39;re going after KLK++ now. Apparently they can&#39;t go legit, with a significant amount of people using KLK++. Don&#39;t let them profit off your loss.

[DarkReality]

Originally posted by Switeck@15 December 2003 - 23:36
Firstly, not EVERYONE should turn on the supernode function.

Only those with at least 4 KB/sec upload to spare and probably 20+ KB/sec download to spare (not that that&#39;s a problem if you can&#39;t find files to download...)

We need GOOD supernodes, not ones that overload when 100+ connections are made to it per second&#33;

Do NOT turn on become a supernode if on Win 95, 98, 98SE, or ME&#33; They are not designed to handle more than 100 connections at once, the MINIMUM for an ok supernode. (Let alone a GOOD one which might have 200+ nodes connected to it&#33;)

ALSO, get an updated anti-RIAA blocklist and turn on RIAA blocking. THEN, everyone who&#39;s connected as a node to you will be safer from the RIAA even if they themselves are NOT blocking RIAA&#39;s ips&#33;
I missed this. Sorry for the double post.

I can definitely turn on supernode, and I fit the requirements you state. 1.5MBit/128K ADSL, Windows XP Pro, latest build (Sp1a + Ru1).

Now, how do I update my IP blocker? Last I checked, it was down. I&#39;d certainly be interested in keeping that up to date, especially if it helped others as well as myself.

A question I just thought of. If KMD blocks KLK++ nodes, what does that mean for us? No communication either way, or just we can&#39;t download from them? Will the latest KMD prevent KMD users from downloading from KLK++ users or just the other way around?

[guit_steel]

Originally posted by DarkReality@16 December 2003 - 03:19
If Sharman is going to cut off the KLK++ users, we should have a tool, that cancels transfers to ANYONE with a network name of @Kazaa. The KLK++ default is something else, but I change it. Mine is 247DSLFileServer. As long as it&#39;s ot @Kazaa, we share.

Push does come to shove people. When Sharman was cool, we were cool. If Sharman wants to push, we push back. It&#39;s clear Sharman is no different from the RIAA. They want to end free file sharing. Or did you not hear that they&#39;re trying to go legit, which is why they&#39;re going after KLK++ now. Apparently they can&#39;t go legit, with a significant amount of people using KLK++. Don&#39;t let them profit off your loss.
:clap:

[cosmic doobie]

Originally posted by DarkReality@16 December 2003 - 07:23


Now, how do I update my IP blocker? Last I checked, it was down. I&#39;d certainly be interested in keeping that up to date, especially if it helped others as well as myself.


Join the forum HERE (http://www.peerguardian.net)
They update the database daily, worth joining to get access and other benefits.

[Switeck]

Originally posted by DarkReality@16 December 2003 - 03:23
A question I just thought of. If KMD blocks KLK++ nodes, what does that mean for us? No communication either way, or just we can&#39;t download from them? Will the latest KMD prevent KMD users from downloading from KLK++ users or just the other way around?
MOST likely, KMD will maintain backwards-compatibility with earlier versions of KMD for quite some time. KMD v2.6 will download JUST FINE from earlier versions, but earlier versions may not be able to download from KMD v2.6 ok.

They may have changed their PL scheme as well, so everything before always gets a PL=0... so then EARLIER versions COULD download from KMD v2.6 -- but they will always be kicked off in favor of KMD v2.6 users.

[IntestinalPlaque]

how do you turn on the supernode anyway?

[dr_cool_j]

Hi all
let me first state kazaa lite/k++ ROCKS :lol:
:angry: kazaa sucks, spyware/adware errrr..

i have k++ 2.4.3 but when i turn on supernorde
its kills my kazaa lite connection, it will never connect untill i uncheck the supernode option. not sure why, ??
winXP
linksys DSL router
maybe open a port on the router
and yes i can still download all i want from kazaa lite

[Caithleann]

Same here.

When I turn on Supernode, I see only 1 user online; me.
I have seen another discussion that suggests jumping supernodes a few times before turning on the Supernode switch but that didn&#39;t help anything.

Does anyone know what the solution to this is?

[Frisco Specialist]

By "switch on your supernode setting" do you mean FORCE supernode?

[dr_cool_j]

Yes i did maybe ill look again for the correct option

[mcrosby]

Originally posted by Switeck@16 December 2003 - 08:36
Firstly, not EVERYONE should turn on the supernode function.

Only those with at least 4 KB/sec upload to spare and probably 20+ KB/sec download to spare (not that that&#39;s a problem if you can&#39;t find files to download...)

We need GOOD supernodes, not ones that overload when 100+ connections are made to it per second&#33;

Do NOT turn on become a supernode if on Win 95, 98, 98SE, or ME&#33; They are not designed to handle more than 100 connections at once, the MINIMUM for an ok supernode. (Let alone a GOOD one which might have 200+ nodes connected to it&#33;)

ALSO, get an updated anti-RIAA blocklist and turn on RIAA blocking. THEN, everyone who&#39;s connected as a node to you will be safer from the RIAA even if they themselves are NOT blocking RIAA&#39;s ips&#33;
Problem is that KLite was released with the supernode option off by default, which ment that our network was just a bunch of clients connecting to Kazaa Supernodes.

When you tell klite to become a supernode it doesn&#39;t automatically mean you will be one - kazaa and klite only allow users with enough bandwidth and power to become a supernode, so turn it on and expect to loose a little speed - if you loose too much speed, then thats because not enough people are set up as a supernode, and lots and lots of people are using yours, so my advice for people who cant use supernode all the time is to switch it on at night when they are asleep - at least you know you are helping the best you can then.

Do not use the force option either - its for testers.

[Switeck]

Originally posted by mcrosby@18 December 2003 - 22:21
Do not use the force option either - its for testers.
Correct, I don&#39;t want just anyone and everyone using force supernode option.

It&#39;ll be even WORSE than the situation we have already. :P

[Cotton]

DO NOT click force become a supernode, That will not work and just stop you from connecting to the network.

go to Options>kazaa lite K++ options>Advance tab> and untick the box next to &#39;do not function as a supernode&#39;

[werdims]

There is something i dont understand. You are saying that my kazaa lite, by default doesent work as a supernode, but when i install kazaa lite 2.4.3 build 1 the box were it says do not funktion as a supernode is already unchecked, does this mean that some of the kazaa lite are by default supernodes. :huh: