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AnonXO
12-14-2003, 06:37 AM
Not sure legally how this would work, but what if AnonX put in PeerGaurdian Block list?

james_bond_rulez
12-14-2003, 06:53 AM
i dont think it's such a good idea

the blocking should be done on clients, not proxy servers.

beside this would affect proxies' speed performance so i dont think you should put in a blocklist.

AnonXO
12-14-2003, 06:57 AM
Just a late night thought.

The CPU power of these boxes are incredible. I have a box with 600 users on it right now and it is pulling less than 20% CPU. Adding additional rules to the firewall wouldn't change too much until the IP list got into 10,000+

james_bond_rulez
12-14-2003, 07:00 AM
still putting in a blocklist in ur proxy would cause potential connection problems for some users, and then they all bitch about it in ur tech department, which you have to deal with anyway. This could be a pain in the butt.

what you could do is put a link to peerguardian on ur website and tell ppl what it does. Once ppl understand they will download the peerguardian program and use it.

just a thought ;)

AnonXO
12-14-2003, 07:03 AM
That's what we have been doing by email. :( What we really need is a message forum on the AnonX web site that deals with tech issues.

3rd gen noob
12-14-2003, 07:03 AM
why do you need to use a blocklist anyway?

aren't you super-duper secure and apparently the users are beyond conviction (haha)?

AnonXO
12-14-2003, 07:05 AM
Never hurts to take it to the next level.


Kick the four letter company anyway you can......

3rd gen noob
12-14-2003, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by AnonXO@14 December 2003 - 06:05
Never hurts to take it to the next level.


Kick the four letter company anyway you can......
i suppose, but why put paying customers performance at risk in exchange for no benefit for them?

james_bond_rulez
12-14-2003, 07:09 AM
i dont think customers really care if there is a blocklist or not

what they really care about is how fast they can download on bt.... :rolleyes:

:lol:

AnonXO
12-14-2003, 07:10 AM
I asked the question, because my tech staff recieved 4 requests for this "enhancement" today. I wanted to through the question out to the masses and see what you think.

3rd gen noob
12-14-2003, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 December 2003 - 06:09
what they really care about is how fast they can download on bt.... :rolleyes:
exactly my point

doesn't it worry you slightly that your apparently totally secure proxy service wishes to use a blocklist?

even if only to p!ss off the RIAA

tracydani
12-14-2003, 11:19 AM
Not to mention, if you put in the block list then people do not have a choice.

Many people do not want PG because they say it blocks unneccessary ip's as well as bad ip's.

And what about the users who do not use this for p2p, they would be blocked potentially from many places they may actually want to go.

Glad you are continually thinking of ways to improve though :D

TD

AnonXO
12-14-2003, 06:42 PM
Good points. You guys are more helpful than my marketing guys.

No block list ever.

--Thanks

james_bond_rulez
12-14-2003, 07:44 PM
:lol:

dingdongding
12-14-2003, 07:45 PM
yeah if you put in the pg blocklist your customer service reps would get flooded with complaints about blocked web sites- we do our best to remove ips when they're reported but we've had a ton of ranges submitted recently

you could use a more refined list where whois results confirm the ip owner- like baytsp for example and then fake file company distributors like overpeer and media defender

but defintely not the full 2800 plus ranges in the pgipdb (peerguardian ip database) where large company ranges have been added etc

ddd

james_bond_rulez
12-14-2003, 09:45 PM
on a completely unrelated note:

anonxo did you guys receive complaints from RIAA/MAPP recently? just out of curiosity. :lol:

I've been sharing a lot of the "hot new" blockbuster releases on the internet.. :-"

Sparkle1984
12-14-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 December 2003 - 20:45
on a completely unrelated note:

anonxo did you guys receive complaints from RIAA/MAPP recently? just out of curiosity. :lol:

I've been sharing a lot of the "hot new" blockbuster releases on the internet.. :-"
well i'm glad that people like you are willing to pay so that other people can get the files off you. I think it is kind and i am grateful. :D

james_bond_rulez
12-14-2003, 11:52 PM
uh huh :)

and in newsgroups too ;)

AnonXO
12-15-2003, 02:53 AM
I think they are having problems find out where to send the complaints.

sparsely
12-15-2003, 02:56 AM
sparsely doesn't trust that program cuz teh site looks crap;

*edit* don't look at mine! ^_^

james_bond_rulez
12-15-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by AnonXO@14 December 2003 - 17:53
I think they are having problems find out where to send the complaints.
hahahaahahha ROFLMAO

that's rich lol

:lol:

james_bond_rulez
12-15-2003, 03:31 AM
ADSL Broadband Internet Connection: $45 Canadians a month on phone bill




Anonx Proxy Service: $5.95 US dollars a month on VISA




Watching the RIAA/MAPP op's face when he/she can't find an email address to send copyright complaint in a whois report: Priceless...




for everything else there is mastercard... :lol: :lol: :lol:

james_bond_rulez
12-15-2003, 03:45 AM
well here's the whois from the network holding the 38.112.xx.xx ip range...

whois whois.arin.net net-38-112-0-0-1:


OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc.
OrgID: PSI
Address: 1015 31st Street, NW
City: Washington
StateProv: DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country: US

NetRange: 38.112.0.0 - 38.119.255.255
CIDR: 38.112.0.0/13
NetName: COGENT-NB-0002
NetHandle: NET-38-112-0-0-1
Parent: NET-38-0-0-0-1
NetType: Reassigned
NameServer: AUTH1.DNS.COGENTCO.COM
NameServer: AUTH2.DNS.COGENTCO.COM
Comment: ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.cogentco.com:4321/
RegDate: 2003-08-20
Updated: 2003-08-20

OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected]

OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications
OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgNOCEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Allocation
OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-12-13 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

james_bond_rulez
12-15-2003, 03:47 AM
so i guess the complaints go to anonx's isp...

not sure about this lol :lol:

AnonXO
12-15-2003, 04:09 AM
That connection is a front.

james_bond_rulez
12-15-2003, 05:59 AM
is this what u mean by front?

22. cover for illegal activities: an apparently respectable person, organization, or business acting as a cover for illegal or secret activities
Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2004. © 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

?

:lol:

i wouldn't say "illegal" lol but i'd say you meant by cover...