Freezing Or Slow K Lite

[Digby]

Just when I thought that I'd fixed the problem..............

My k-lites was freezing or stalling every time I entered a new command.
It still was working, but EVERY new command was causing a stall , a "not responding msg or a error msg.

I delated all the db files
erased and re -loaded 2.4.3 a few times.
I moved all my files in a temp folder.
with an empty shared folder, I slowly re-loaded my old files a few at a time and played them.
I then cleared the shared folder into another temp file called "Checked"
When the system started to stall agian, I would delate the file that I just had re loaded and the problem seemed to go away.
I finished reloading all the files that went from temp to shared to Checked.
I delated maybe 10 files in the process that seemed to cause the system to stall.
I then copied all the files from Checked in to my shared folder.

I started up k-lite agian and the old problem returned.
It stalls on each new command or I get a "Not responding" or error msg.
It still works but needs to be closed and restarted all the time..............

Any suggestions?

[Cyril]

Have you done a full virus scan?

[Occster]

The same thing started happening to me earlier today. I have done a full virus scan with Norton 2004 Pro with the latest definitions and Kazaa is still freezing and going very slow. As Digby said it still works but this is a real pain in the ****!!!

[cosmic doobie]

System Defrag.
Sweep with AdAware & Spybot.

[Occster]

I have used SpyBot, Ad-Aware, Registry Medic & Trojan Remover but to no avail.
When this problem happens it makes my HDD go nuts and everything else stalls and runs slow also.

BTW this only happens when Kazaa is connected, when not connected I can still search the web and the forum like I am now using the Kazaa interface.

[Digby]

Defrag
Norton Anti Virus
Adware
Spy bot
I did them all................

Still sluggish and getting the "Not responding" still but not as often.

Could this be a single corrupt file that's casuing this?
If so, how do I isolate this?

Thanks for your continued help.......................

ps. why in the open topic blue box that is next to my entry is there a little light blue square? it's the only one that i see????????????

[Occster]

Looks like the problem is fixed for me.

It all happened when I started downloading Adobe Acrobat Professional 6. I left Kazaa running overnight (freezing and slowness wasn't goona bother me while I was in bed) and when I woke up the file had finished downloading. Now everything is fine and back to normal.

I have no idea why that should cause a problem but it seems it was the only thing that could have caused it. Anyway im happy again :)

Hope this helps with other people.

Cheers
Occster

[Digby]

Not fixed yet.................
Keeps freezing still and I'm getting the not responding msg.

Any more suggestions, I've tried everything I know?

[Switeck]

Originally posted by Occster@18 December 2003 - 19:35
It all happened when I started downloading Adobe Acrobat Professional 6. I left Kazaa running overnight (freezing and slowness wasn't goona bother me while I was in bed) and when I woke up the file had finished downloading. Now everything is fine and back to normal.
That may be a trojan/virus newer than your AV protects against.

Check for strange processes running in the background.

Also, run MSCONFIG and check the startup tab.

[Ricky_1146]

Even though it's doubtful but possible, your processor could be getting boggled down. With pre NT, 2000, and Xp windows had a unstable kernel problem therefore when the processor was overloaded or say ram was. Windows crashed, i am betting your running Nt,xp, or 2000. I can tell you whenever my processor gets over run, with tasks, processes ram etc. Kazaa or 2 other running programs that used lots of processor went not responding. I bet anything the ram or processor is being choked by everything running. Because sometimes kazaa lite for me can run up 50megabytes of ram. In plain english to explain it if you dont understand Windows 95, 98, 98SE Me, all had bad memory mangement if a program stayed in ram even after it was shut down, in these versions of windows. The process would still run as a safety preacaution. The NT kernel changed that with better memory mangement. Now in Nt-XP the program will lock up to prevent windows from crashing. When you disconnect, it puts less a strain on the processor. Because the downloads and searching does use ram. I hope that helps if you see this post again, I say when kazaa lite is running keep track of the processor useage kernel useageand ram hit control alt delete. To bring up the task manger. When kazaa lite aint running keep track as well. I bet ya you will see a difference, if anyone can put what i said into better english. I know im speaking technical terms.

[Digby]

Thank you very much for taking the time to respond.
Alot of my rookie questions have gone un or under answered.
I'll try to digest this over the weekend when I can get a few moments away from my flu laden kids............

[Digby]

Originally posted by Switeck+19 December 2003 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Switeck @ 19 December 2003 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Occster@18 December 2003 - 19:35
It all happened when I started downloading Adobe Acrobat Professional 6. I left Kazaa running overnight (freezing and slowness wasn&#39;t goona bother me while I was in bed) and when I woke up the file had finished downloading. Now everything is fine and back to normal.
That may be a trojan/virus newer than your AV protects against.

Check for strange processes running in the background.

Also, run MSCONFIG and check the startup tab. [/b][/quote]
What am I looking for in the start up tab?

[Digby]

I say when kazaa lite is running keep track of the processor useage kernel useageand ram hit control alt delete. To bring up the task manger. When kazaa lite aint running keep track as well. I bet ya you will see a difference, if anyone can put what i said into better english. I know im speaking technical terms.

I understood all your msg up until this............
How do I keep track of the processor usage kernal and the task manager?
FOUND THE TASK MANAGER
WHAT SHOULD I BE LOOKING FOR??

Thanks,
Digby
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[Ricky_1146]

ok hit control alt delete hold all 3 for a few seconds. task manger will come up. when it opens, there will be 5 tabs the one you are on will be applications. Applications shows whats below in your desktop bar. the other 4 tabs you will see are processes, performance, networking and users. click the performance tab. above these 5 tabs you will also see file, options, view, shut down, and help. Click view and go to update speed the default i believe is low or normal, put it to high, reason i say so is because it gives an accurate way to see every second how the processor is handling data. You should also see show kernel times in the view part it is the last one. Click on view kernel times. You should see in the cpu useage box the top one a green bar and red. Red is your kernel which shows how stable xp is. green is the used processor keep track of the percent&#39;s that the numbers fluxciate between. In PF useage (ram useage) the number of xxxmb is what is being used. If its over your actual real ram, like your computer can with 256MB ram or 512MB ram this means, that xp is using virtual memory, (hard drive space to make up for ram thats being used) The cpu useage history shows a graph of how active your processor has been. it jumping up and down means your using lots of processor power. Page file useage history is the graph for virtual memory. There will be 4 boxes physical memory is the most important because it gives you raw data of how much ram you are using. etc. Total ram means the ram that you have installed mine is 523760 in short 512MB ram. Avaliable is how much that isnt being used. System cache means that whatever you run it gets put in cache so next time it runs faster. In the performance tab it will list every process that is running, I advise before tampering with it know which are safe to turn off. For future reference kazaa lite is this process kazaalite.kpp if kazaa lite ever freezes and u cannot kill the program processes is the way it will get shut off. Networking tab shows how much data is coming into your computer. If you have any questions i will reply to the post in here. or if you wanna contact me i will give you my email and we can start from there. If you need to contact me for anything just ask.

[skzillz]

I myself have witnessed the cpu been bogged down after using KazaaLite for extended hours of time, but doesn anyone have any idea what about Kazaa is causing the problem and how to alleviate those who are suffering from it? :blink: :rolleyes:

[Digby]

Ricky-
Thanks. I undrstood all in your msg....................
my ram is 512
PF usage is 198 to 202MB
CPU usage seems to flucauate from 2% to 100% while I&#39;m watching it
Mostly staying around 10%
When I try to change folders from audio to now playing, the CPU usauge peaks around 100%.
The same happens when I Forward to the next song within a folder

PM total is 520 approx.
Available is 259 approx.
Proccesses:37

These numbers don&#39;t seem out of line, do they?

No other programs on my computer are having this problem, only k-l?

[Hypnotised]

It&#39;s more than likely a corrupt file. Sounds too simple, but I&#39;ve had the exact same problem in the past, and that was what it was. Go to My Computer/Program Files/KLIte folder/My Shared Folder and right click on the headings, put a check mark next to Date Created to make it visible. Sort the list by Date Created (recent to last) and just delete anything that&#39;s remotely suspicious, or just delete everything you&#39;ve downloaded since before the problem occured. That should do it. You can always re-download the songs later on.

[Digby]

Thanks..................
What does remotely suspsicous look like?
What should I be on the looking out for?
Certain file names? extentions, etc?

If I reload the songs a few at a time will the corrupt or files always be obvious?

Any way to spot or avoid these files in the future?

Digby

[Ricky_1146]

The mp3/corrupt thing is possible but to me it seems like if it was the matter of a corrupt file it would error like cannot find program to open with etc.


Well everything seems pretty good sometimes, when you start a program the cpu useage will jump 100% which if you think about it. The processor is trying to make it start up as fast as possible. The amount of processes is kinda big to me since i normally run about 18-25 processes at most.

Course i keep task manager open to kill any processes that dont die on thier own. So it always stays low. I keep thinking of how to get those processes down, i am sure most of them are evil windows services. Which in XP it comes pre installed with 50 services the number you only need to run with XP is 7. I run about 12 of the services.



If you wanna contact me just messege the post back and I will PM (messege you my email) to try helping out if you need it. I bet you anything you have all the xp services running. If you have msn, yahoo or aol messengers i could help ya out there makes it better. Since i use those 3 messengers, And you probably wonder how a 18 year old guy knows all this. Tons of trail and error and tinkering with XP. If you want me to give you my email/messenger. Just messegge me back.

[MUSLEMAN]

if you have more than 256MB of ram and not too many programs runing, check for a corrupt file in your shared folder or a bad db folder, it could also be the amount of files you are sharing

[Ricky_1146]

True i agree with the amount your sharing it can take up processor power, same as searching and downloading files takes up processor power. you may also need to change ow many kilobits you let other kazaa users take to download from you. For me some could say i am a leech but i do share just i limit the bandwith to 32 kilobytes and 1 upload at a time before you finalize the thought of me being a leech i contribute 105 gigabytes to kazaa. Mostly music videos, movies, Porn etc. and 700 mp3 files although i share 2394 files and 105 gigs worth

One day i can tell ya i will be 1 or 2 terabytes of kazaa I wanna ensure P2P survives plus the fastrack network i do not have any fakes in my 105 gigs that i share. Just remember 1 day i will be a backbone of fastrack

[Switeck]

Originally posted by Ricky_1146@27 December 2003 - 20:19
For me some could say i am a leech but i do share just i limit the bandwith to 32 kilobytes and 1 upload at a time before you finalize the thought of me being a leech i contribute 105 gigabytes to kazaa. Mostly music videos, movies, Porn etc. and 700 mp3 files although i share 2394 files and 105 gigs worth
You could share more faster at that same speed sharing fewer files/GBs.

How many entries you add to people&#39;s searches matters little if they only get remotely queued and/or <0.5 KB/sec downloads from you (not that you&#39;re doing the latter.)

A 56k modem can only barely handle the 24 kilobits (3 KB/sec) upload setting.

Many low-end broadband handle 32 kilobits (4 KB/sec) ok, but choke on the next bigger setting -- 64 kilobits (8 KB/sec.)

Whether it&#39;s on KL++, BitTorrent, or BearShare (Gnutella network), I often upload ~2 GB a day. To do that, I have to sustain about 25 KB/sec 24/7 on a line with an upload max of only about 29-30 KB/sec.