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vladsoft
12-18-2003, 06:27 PM
:huh: Hey, its been approximately two weeks since Sharman says k++ would die in two weeks, and im not seen any problems. I am downloading a chaplin movie (how many people have old movies in this network??, not much!!) and i have a good speed.

Is there somebody with problems using k++ :blink: . Real problems!, no problems about hard to find files been downloaded with a 56k conection B) .

firefox
12-18-2003, 06:43 PM
no problems here showing 3,394,018 users online

-Genesis-
12-18-2003, 06:57 PM
Same here, about a week ago i thought we were done for but now there are on average 3,740,000 users. BUT..... shrmen said 4 -6 weeks for a complete wipeout....(I personally think its a stunt to persue people to download kmd 2.6)

:D

BigBank_Hank
12-18-2003, 07:01 PM
I haven't experienced any problems myself and I have K-lite running all the time. I have noticed a drop in users online in the past few days but other than that everything has been ok.

vladsoft
12-18-2003, 07:30 PM
Ok, i dont remenber if they said 2, 3 or 4 weeks :unsure: , but its still like there werent any block, except to find the program (well, we have enough mirros aniway) :rolleyes: .

About the users number been lower, i dont think its becouse kmd2.6, but the riaa suits. See when the riaa made a big suit, and you will see a lower number of users too.

21UP
12-18-2003, 08:03 PM
Hi all
good d/load here no probs at all.
one difference it said i was not sharing any files.
OK now it has come up with 3000 plus so all ok
cheers Peter :lol: :P :ph34r:

supernico
12-18-2003, 08:08 PM
No problem at all. By the way, i notice that most users that are uploading are KL users...

JGarcia1J
12-18-2003, 08:14 PM
Yeah as far as I can tell there isnt that much of a change and thats because everyone I know has K++ into their computer because I put it there and I havent heard a single complaint. Well anyways KEEP ON SHARING!!

Entity101
12-18-2003, 08:36 PM
Also note that it was a rumour, not a fact!

Too bad that most people don't see the difference between those.


But time will tell.

SeK612
12-18-2003, 09:03 PM
I haven't noticed anything major yet (although I've seen very low amounts of users at some points - 2.6 million during the day). I agree theres no evidence that Shaman have succeeded (or have even tried) but by all accounts if this is going on it'll be slow to get going (as users find and download v2.6).

vladsoft
12-18-2003, 09:05 PM
Well, the news put it like a fact (i mean internet related news sites). I think we can blame the media. :angry: :angry: :angry:

Aretak
12-18-2003, 09:17 PM
No problems here. I downloaded a couple of MP3's today and got great speeds on them. :D

cosmic doobie
12-18-2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by vladsoft@18 December 2003 - 20:05
I think we can blame the media. :angry: :angry: :angry:
<_< Also some plants on this and other message boards I am sure.

BigBank_Hank
12-18-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by cosmic doobie@18 December 2003 - 16:21
<_< Also some plants on this and other message boards I am sure.
Hmmmm are you inferring that we may have some double agents among us? :ph34r:

random nut
12-18-2003, 09:35 PM
The supernodes stored in the old klite installers will eventually not be working (because eventually all of them will have gone offline) and then no-one will be able to install it and then connect to the network.

james_bond_rulez
12-18-2003, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by random nut@18 December 2003 - 12:35
The supernodes stored in the old klite installers will eventually not be working (because eventually all of them will have gone offline) and then no-one will be able to install it and then connect to the network.
can u do "something" about it? <_<

jesper_t
12-18-2003, 09:42 PM
I&#39;m confident the next K++ installer will be updated when the guys working on it release a final 2.60.

vladsoft
12-18-2003, 10:06 PM
Why are the supernodes goin offline??

I thought it was enough with that everybody using kl become a supernode, like other people posted in this forum&#33;&#33;

Isnt all the data you need to install k++ in the approx. 3MB installer+updater??

Im confused&#33;&#33;

kazaa2002
12-18-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by random nut@18 December 2003 - 21:35
The supernodes stored in the old klite installers will eventually not be working (because eventually all of them will have gone offline) and then no-one will be able to install it and then connect to the network.
would you please give these guys a link to Agent Smith&#39;s solution :unsure:
random ,they do not understand that the loss of the old supernodes that
they are currently using will cut them off without a warning :huh:

firefox
12-18-2003, 11:03 PM
I have been asking about agents smiths filx myself

random nut
12-18-2003, 11:56 PM
The installer, even KMD&#39;s installer, writes supernode IPs to the registry when installing. These IPs are updated automatically by kazaa.exe after that, but if you can&#39;t do the initial connection because the initial supernode IPs aren&#39;t working anymore (will always happen after a couple of months even with KMD260) then you can never update the IPs and thus never connect to the network. That&#39;s why an installer always needs to have an updated set of supernode IPs.

vladsoft
12-19-2003, 12:06 AM
Could it be enough editing the registry? :huh: . If that is the whole problem, then it sound easier to resolve than a though&#33;&#33;

O&#39;course, i have to ask if those initial supernode are normal supernod (somebody using any version of kazaa), or is something that sharman can control :( .

Switeck
12-19-2003, 12:47 AM
Kazaa Lite K++ may remain working, but if new users cannot find it on the web to download and install it, that may be a moot point.

Sure, we could SHARE it on KL++, but then every new convert would need to know how to go from KMD v2.6.x to KL++ v2.4.x

Also, like RN said, if we don&#39;t have/find a way to put a NEW starting supernode list into KL++, it WILL DIE after awhile.

People may be having trouble getting online now, as the only supernode still online that&#39;s listed in the initial setup may be overloaded constantly...

BiLLy_BloggZ
12-19-2003, 05:42 AM
If there are fewer supernodes, there are more people connected to the same supernodes, so therefore we should receive more search results yet it would take longer for KL to find a Supernode when connecting. So far it still only takes a matter of seconds for KL to find a supernode to connect to, so either Sharmens tactics arent working or all this is just some hoax to encourage the use of KMD2.6

cfm
12-19-2003, 07:09 AM
ever since you stoped giving kazaa k++ i noticed my download speed jumped from the normal 99 kb to 233 kb :blink: thats is wierd but oh well, its faster&#33; :rolleyes:

kAb
12-19-2003, 07:18 AM
knock on wood&#33; all of you knock&#33;
http://www.karnes-city.isd.tenet.edu/trails/culture/superst/knock.gif


no problems here yet :)

Barbarossa
12-19-2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by vladsoft@18 December 2003 - 23:06
Could it be enough editing the registry? :huh: . If that is the whole problem, then it sound easier to resolve than a though&#33;&#33;

O&#39;course, i have to ask if those initial supernode are normal supernod (somebody using any version of kazaa), or is something that sharman can control :( .
Well, if you know of a valid supernode address you can use kazupernodes to attempt to connect, once you&#39;ve connected to 1 you&#39;re back in business&#33;

The trouble is your average Newbie-Joe isn&#39;t going to know how to do this without detailed instructions..

(Sharman used to control a supernode known as the "alpha" supernode, the IP of which was hardcoded into the KMD client as a last resort in case the client couldn&#39;t connect, but I think this was removed a few versions ago.)

Entity101
12-19-2003, 11:45 AM
Luckily iMesh has a central supernode server...

fm2.imesh.com:1214

model-behavior
12-19-2003, 05:08 PM
I wasn&#39;t worried and I&#39;m still not, although it&#39;s hard to remain positive with all of this negativity flying around. LOL.

Not only are all connection speeds and access holding up, but you can still download Kazaa Lite (virgins 1.5.1 to virgins 2.4.3) in any language on the Sharman servers. B)

I&#39;m still holding on my theory that we will not be booted or blocked because Sharman needs to show a total number of users in order to make selling their advertising more appealing. Remember that prospective clients will be shown the bottom line, no one from Sharman is going to tell a prospective client: "We have 3.6 million users online who will see your ads, but keep in mind that there are 1 million KL users who won&#39;t see your ads." LOL.

The higher the number of users on the system increases the value of Sharman&#39;s advertising rates. They would be cutting their own throat to cut their user base in half, so they won&#39;t. LOL.

If a prospective client should ask, "What about those KL users who I&#39;ve heard about?" The Sharman sales rep is going to turn around and say, "Don&#39;t worry, we&#39;ve taken care of that already" showing him the memo, and the question will be put to rest.

Sparkle1984
12-19-2003, 05:38 PM
I just use Kazupernodes to find a working supernode to connect to, and then launch K-Lite from there. It almost always works, if you choose one with a low response time. I haven&#39;t had any major connectivity problems yet.
Knock on the wood LOL&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol:

Big_Rob
12-19-2003, 06:41 PM
Im still downloading, ive been downloading nonstop and havent even noticed a bump. time will tell about if sharman will shut K++ down, untill then,, FUCK EM&#33; :P

Knightmad
12-19-2003, 07:05 PM
Kazaa Lite K++ 2.4.3 going OK ... I used the #klchat Build of Kazaa, made by Raaz (that is a clean KMD 2.6, possibly the next logical step in KLite timeline), and I saw there is some interesting features in 2.6 version like concurrent searches, one click download, but I unistalled it once Klite 2.4.3 version is still more stable and have more extensions than that one ... Let&#39;s wait and see how long will this remain working (I hope forever, 2.000.000 users is good enough .... )

Switeck
12-19-2003, 09:28 PM
Has anyone noticed in their UPLOADS that very few people have PL values below 1,000 yet above 30?

If you see any of them, they are most likely Kazaa users.

I&#39;m betting Kazaa users can STILL download from us, but the reverse may not be true -- or we may get &#39;leftovers&#39; only due to a changed PL system which treats KL++&#39;s PL as 0.

redtback
12-19-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by vladsoft@18 December 2003 - 18:27
:huh: Hey, its been approximately two weeks since Sharman says k++ would die in two weeks, and im not seen any problems. I am downloading a chaplin movie (how many people have old movies in this network??, not much&#33;&#33;) and i have a good speed.

Is there somebody with problems using k++ :blink: . Real problems&#33;, no problems about hard to find files been downloaded with a 56k conection B) .
-_-

Nope &#33;&#33;&#33;

internet.news
12-20-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by firefox@18 December 2003 - 19:43
no problems here showing 3,394,018 users online
3.3 million? so before sharman make their yellow full of ads version not being able to connect to k++ there have been 4 milllion ppl online? So, could it be that 600.000 ppl are still using spyware Kazaa (yellow= from kazaa-dot-com?

I think the way I thinking does not have to be 100% right...

internet.news
12-20-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Switeck@19 December 2003 - 22:28
Has anyone noticed in their UPLOADS that very few people have PL values below 1,000 yet above 30?

If you see any of them, they are most likely Kazaa users.

I&#39;m betting Kazaa users can STILL download from us, but the reverse may not be true -- or we may get &#39;leftovers&#39; only due to a changed PL system which treats KL++&#39;s PL as 0.
If you see ppl with specfific shared files numbers, than they might using KMD 2.5 or lower, because as I heared the latest 2.6 can&#39;t normally connect to k++ - only with a crack probably, but I do not know if there is any.

And I do not know if I am going to install yellow Kazaa again, because the Spyware slowed down my whole pc.

usthaiguy
12-24-2003, 02:55 PM
Today I could not connect to anyone using KL++ 2.4.2. Even after jumping supernodes many times, I was the only user online :o . I then uninstalled KL++ 2.4.2 and installed CLEAN KMD from http://kppfree.narod.ru/kdown.htm and everything works fine now. 2.9 million users online. :rolleyes:

If CLEAN KMD is an update to KL, why not call it KL?

ugc
12-24-2003, 05:55 PM
usthaiguy > Good Question.

Also, I have a question to the programmers of k-lite. Would it be simple to construct a small program to search for updated nodes, and then write them to the registry? Then, we would have updated K-lite&#39;s and wouldn&#39;t need to worry about getting kicked off the network?

I am no programmer, but I am just asking the people who would know. This might be an idea that has been overlooked.

xdamnedx
12-24-2003, 09:00 PM
my kazaa k++ 2.4.3 still works just fine too :) never even hit a bump

/by the way, i formally introduce myself to this board. i am xdamnedx&#33;
the name of course is for the legendary punk band &#39;the damned&#39;. i&#39;m into REAL punk, hardcore, metalcore, black metal, and gothic music. and thats about it

Duracell Plus+++
12-24-2003, 10:48 PM
:frusty:

[SIZE=1] just tryed my k-lite and im showing 3.1 million users. :01:

d3v1l
12-25-2003, 05:29 AM
dont no about u but i juped supernood about 20 time and i was on a supernood with my self or 10 people

KLiteAddict
12-25-2003, 05:33 AM
ive been using it for a long time now and all ive seen is a drop in people downloading but then it goes back up again. but yeah i leave it running nearly all the time

wenze1
12-25-2003, 05:52 AM
The only problem i have is that people are not sharing like they used too.http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/ups/sabrinajellybean/skulll.gif
http://www.stupid-boy.com/smilies/otn/evil/diablos.gif

kb123
12-25-2003, 10:44 PM
Still using K++ Version 2.0.3.v Build date Feb 2003 Build 1. Works fine and shows 3,046,429 users online. No problems. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: