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Busyman
12-21-2003, 05:00 AM
From website

Just take two Chaser caplets with your first drink then party as usual. While you're having a good time, Chaser will be hard at work attracting and absorbing hangover-causing toxins. It's clinically proven safe and effective and its ingredients are Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) by the FDA. Chaser works on all beer, wine and spirits. If you're particularly sensitive to wine, try Chaser for Wine Headaches.

Chaser does not prevent intoxication.
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Does this shit actually work?!!! :huh:

I'd jump on it!!! No squeezed head syndrome in the morning!!!

adjective-noun-number
12-21-2003, 01:09 PM
How can it absorb "hangover-causing toxins" but not keep you from being intoxicated? That doesn't make any sense.

I like how "clinically proven effective" and the FDA are in the same sentence, as if to suggest the FDA finds it effective.

This will lead to many lawsuits.

3rd gen noob
12-21-2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Busyman@21 December 2003 - 04:00
Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) by the FDA
generally??

is that like saying "with this, you're generally not going to die"?

Cheese
12-21-2003, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't mind trying Chaser (http://www.doublechaser.com/default.htm) cos I get really hungover some weekends. But wouldn't some alchoholics abuse Chaser (if it works) and be using it to hide their addiction from other people?

Busyman
12-21-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by adjective-noun-number@21 December 2003 - 13:09
How can it absorb "hangover-causing toxins" but not keep you from being intoxicated? That doesn't make any sense.

I like how "clinically proven effective" and the FDA are in the same sentence, as if to suggest the FDA finds it effective.

This will lead to many lawsuits.
...because being intoxicated and having a hangover are somewhat different.

The morning AFTER drinking you may not be drunk anymore but you will feel like shit. Alcohol dehydrates you among other things but drinking water doesn't necessarily solve the problem.

MediaSlayer
12-21-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+21 December 2003 - 13:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 21 December 2003 - 13:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@21 December 2003 - 04:00
Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) by the FDA
generally??

is that like saying "with this, you&#39;re generally not going to die"? [/b][/quote]
considering their handling of the ephedra issue, you pretty much nailed it.

the_faceman
12-21-2003, 05:18 PM
Club RU 21 (http://www.clubru21.com/faq.htm)

PRODUCT OVERVIEW
RU-21 is an all-natural supplement that has been clinically proven to regulate alcohol metabolism in order to prevent alcohol-related damage to the vital organs of the body and reduces or eliminates the "Hangover Effect" resulting from alcohol consumption. RU-21 was developed by the scientists at the Russian Academy of Sciences in the course of a 25 year-long research project studying alcohol metabolism.

HOW IT WORKS
When alcohol is consumed, it enters cells and is broken down into acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is an extremely toxic compound believed to be responsible for both, most alcohol-related diseases and the addictive process itself.
The reaction is as follows:
CH3CH2OH+NAD+® CH3CHO+NADN+H+ (1)
Then an enzyme called aldehyde dehydrogenase 2 (ALDH2) converts the acetaldehyde into acetic acid, which is non-toxic and can be readily used by the body to provide energy, eventually breaking down into water and carbon dioxide. However, the body is only able to metabolize a certain amount of acetaldehyde within a certain period of time regardless of how much alcohol is being consumed. Consequently, alcohol consumption often results in excess acetaldehyde entering blood stream and causing severe damage to the vital organs and functions of the body.

RU-21 balances alcohol metabolism by slowing down the process of ethanol oxidation into acetaldehyde, so less acetaldehyde occurs in the first place, and then speeding up the process of acetaldehyde decomposition into acetic acid and then water and carbon dioxide.

The first task – slowing down ethanol oxidation into acetaldehyde was accomplished by the inclusion of dextrose (glucose) into the formula. Dextrose rapidly oxidizes in cytosol of liver cells using the same cytosol NAD pool used by ethanol to convert into acetaldehyde, thereby creating a deficit of cytosol NAD needed for the reaction (1) shown above.

Further, the acceleration of decomposition of acetaldehyde and acetic acid into CO2 and H2O and the energizing of mitochondria were accomplished through activation of aerobic oxidation processes in mitochondria by way of introducing substrates (Succinic Acid, Fumaric Acid), which activate the second half-cycle of tricarboxylic acids. Succinate substrate, which is independent of NADN-dehydrogenase prevents acetaldehyde from causing hypoxia, which often results form the accumulation of suboxidized metabolites, and from impeding NADN oxidation in the respiratory chain of cells.

L-Glutamine was added to the formula to speed up the mitochondria-cytosolic malate-aspartate shuttle, which plays key role in the course of acetaldehyde intoxication development. It also speeds up succinate oxidation process (by preventing oxalic and acetic inhibition of succinate dehydrogenase). In addition, it transforms itself into a-ketoglutarate during a rapid oxidation in Crebs cycle. And finally, the proper concentration of L-Glutamine positively influences glutamate and GAMC synapses in the brain, improving coordination and inhibition processes affected by alcohol intoxication.

Ascorbic Acid was added to the formula in order to activate anti-oxidant systems of the central nervous system, liver and hormone-active tissues (affected by hypoxia and acetaldehyde) and to support adrenal gland cortex, which produces anti-stress hormones.

DISCLAIMER: RU-21 is classified as a &#39;dietary supplement&#39;, so like all &#39;supplements&#39; we are required to say, "These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease."

You should not use of this product to increase the amount or frequency of alcohol consumption. Always be safe and drink in moderation. RU-21 will not reduce your level of intoxication nor the feeling of intoxication. It works to protect your body against the adverse effects of alcohol and to greatly reduce or eliminate the &#39;hangover effect&#39; resulting from alcohol consumption. Drink responsibly and never drink and drive&#33;

camille
12-22-2003, 04:06 AM
No side effects for your liver?

Alex H
12-22-2003, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by the_faceman@21 December 2003 - 17:18
RU-21 was developed by the scientists at the Russian Academy of Sciences in the course of a 25 year-long research project studying alcohol metabolism.
Why is that not suprising?

I&#39;m hungover now. It hurts. Does that stuff work? cause I could use it right now. Well I could have used it last night really...

:beerchug: :x :doctor:

DreamWeaver
01-21-2004, 12:55 AM
yea this is true
aint it all true
aint everything true




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