Reading

[TNTIcemanTNT]

Hey guys, Id just thought id share my thoughts with you. My level of english is pretty good, understanding of literature in classtime for exams lands me with A grades all the time..............however I NEVER read in my spare time.
I can just not force myself to read... I just think of it as such a big waste of time and uninteresting yet, throughout my whole life ive had no spelling problems etc. (which people often associate to lack of reading).
So was just wondering, any of you guys like NEVER read lol?And not feel the need to?

[WeeMouse]

I read....i never used to, but Lamsey's parents bought me the hobbit a few years ago for Christmas and i couldn't get enough of it! Now i love reading and my spelling and vocab have improved too!

Read read read read read read!

Just find something you like - ANYTHING - and give it a go!

:)

[Lamsey]

me never reed and mie speling is fooking exelint

[TNTIcemanTNT]

lol
compared to a educated individual of higher social position, such as my self who looks down on the propostrous insult to humanity that you are, I am amazing. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lol edit had to do it

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT@27 December 2003 - 20:15
lol
comapred to a educated individual of higher social position, such as my self who looks down on the propostrous insult to humanity that you are.
:huh: You know that's not even a sentence? :blink:

[Nimdock]

Ok, spelling genius...


It's "myself," not my self.


Before a word that starts with a vowel, you have to use "an" not "a."


Well, among other things.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Lamsey+27 December 2003 - 22:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 27 December 2003 - 22:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TNTIcemanTNT@27 December 2003 - 20:15
lol
comapred to a educated individual of higher social position, such as my self who looks down on the propostrous insult to humanity that you are.
:huh: You know that&#39;s not even a sentence? :blink: [/b][/quote]
Do you realise that is not even a question ?

[TNTIcemanTNT]

Dude, youve completely missed the point. it was a contrast to the kev he was trying to voice, and i was taking th piss to voice a over pompous somebody.
No wonder why people leave KLF so much, as there are jsut more and more dicks like you who are out to flame.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Nimdock@27 December 2003 - 22:22
Before a word that starts with a vowel, you have to use "an" not "a."

Like an Hotel or an Horse.

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+27 December 2003 - 20:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol &#064; 27 December 2003 - 20:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nimdock@27 December 2003 - 22:22
Before a word that starts with a vowel, you have to use "an" not "a."

Like an Hotel or an Horse. [/b][/quote]
Or an h4r5h remark. <-- another non-sentence :D

[Nimdock]

It&#39;s "you&#39;ve," or even better "you have."

Also, after a period, you have to use a capital letter.

What is kev?

Just so you know, I&#39;m not flaming, I&#39;m just helping you with your grammar since you don&#39;t read at all.

[Nimdock]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+27 December 2003 - 16:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 27 December 2003 - 16:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nimdock@27 December 2003 - 22:22
Before a word that starts with a vowel, you have to use "an" not "a."

Like an Hotel or an Horse. [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: touché

[TNTIcemanTNT]

Man, your a dickhead arnt you. Usually on a chat board where topics/replys are written by in large alot of the time, some people dont tend to bother with correct with grammar as much as you do, as evidently you are the master of grammar.
I dont need any help from you for shit, so fuck off to be frank.
And if you dont know what a kev is you dont need to know.

[Skweeky]

I think it&#39;s important to try and use proper spelling and grammar...

It can&#39;t be that hard to read through your post once before you actually post it :)

[Nimdock]

That&#39;s it, no more help for you.

[TNTIcemanTNT]

Again to the point of a community forum, topics, in my experience are read fast and quick and replies are made even faster, so there is no need to make everything perfect, for which one would do with a very important letter(understandably).
But no, this is just a casual forum where feelings/opinons are expressed, not a fucking grammar school.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Nimdock@27 December 2003 - 22:33
That&#39;s it, no more help for you.
That&#39;s an harsh hattitude.

[Skweeky]

True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Skweeky@27 December 2003 - 22:44
True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying
They annoyify me2

[hypodermic]

Originally posted by Skweeky@27 December 2003 - 21:44
True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying
I am sorry but you are confusing me. If you hardly ever read posts with bad spelling or bad grammar, how do you know?

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by hypodermic+27 December 2003 - 20:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hypodermic @ 27 December 2003 - 20:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Skweeky@27 December 2003 - 21:44
True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying
I am sorry but you are confusing me. If you hardly ever read posts with bad spelling or bad grammar, how do you know? [/b][/quote]
She doesn&#39;t like having to decipher badly written posts in a language which is foreign to her. Seems fair enough to me.

[Nimdock]

Because you are so used to read that you spot those kinds of things easily.

[Skweeky]

What Lamsey and Nimdock said. Thanks guys.

[hypodermic]

Originally posted by Lamsey+27 December 2003 - 21:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 27 December 2003 - 21:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:48
<!--QuoteBegin-Skweeky@27 December 2003 - 21:44
True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying
I am sorry but you are confusing me. If you hardly ever read posts with bad spelling or bad grammar, how do you know?
She doesn&#39;t like having to decipher badly written posts in a language which is foreign to her. Seems fair enough to me. [/b][/quote]
That was not the question.

[titey]

:P Well as uncharacteristic as it is for me to actually reply on-topic.... with regards to TNT&#39;s original question - no, I have never enjoyed reading literature. I am far too easily distracted to spend so much time pouring through books. I&#39;d much rather watch a move if&#39;n I want to be entertained by a story.

Now if&#39;n someone here wishes to critque my spelling, grammar, puctuation, or sentence structure.... feel free, I really couln&#39;t care less. :rolleyes:

:lol: While yer at it, why not have a go at my character, appearance, an&#39; personal hygene as well.... just for fun.

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by hypodermic+27 December 2003 - 20:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hypodermic @ 27 December 2003 - 20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Lamsey@27 December 2003 - 21:49

Originally posted by hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:48
<!--QuoteBegin-Skweeky@27 December 2003 - 21:44
True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying
I am sorry but you are confusing me. If you hardly ever read posts with bad spelling or bad grammar, how do you know?
She doesn&#39;t like having to decipher badly written posts in a language which is foreign to her. Seems fair enough to me.
That was not the question. [/b][/quote]
She finds them annoying, so she hardly ever reads them. Makes perfect sense.

[the_faceman]

She said she "hardly" ever reads those kind of posts. She knows they are annoying the same way i know that stubbing my toe is painful even though i "hardly" ever do it.

She only has to read the first few lines of a post to realise that it has bad grammar etc, so she can make her decision based on that alone.

[hypodermic]

Sorry Titey? <_< Is it not against the Forum&#39;s rules to attack a Forum Member on a personal level? :unsure:

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:57
Sorry Titey? <_< Is it not against the Forum&#39;s rules to attack a Forum Member on a personal level? :unsure:
Well, if they give prior permission (or provocation, such as this (http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/hyposample.doc)) then who are we to question it?

[hypodermic]

Originally posted by Lamsey+27 December 2003 - 21:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 27 December 2003 - 21:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:51

Originally posted by Lamsey@27 December 2003 - 21:49

Originally posted by hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:48
<!--QuoteBegin-Skweeky@27 December 2003 - 21:44
True, it&#39;s not a grammar school. But I hardly ever read badly spelled posts, or posts with bad grammar...
I think they&#39;re annoying
I am sorry but you are confusing me. If you hardly ever read posts with bad spelling or bad grammar, how do you know?
She doesn&#39;t like having to decipher badly written posts in a language which is foreign to her. Seems fair enough to me.
That was not the question.
She finds them annoying, so she hardly ever reads them. Makes perfect sense. [/b][/quote]
Thats like saying "I read Dicken&#39;s first book and I thought it was rubbish". Therefore I won&#39;t read any of his other books because of that.

[Nimdock]

Even though you try to use socratic logic, you are far from it in this case.

You can tell when a post is poorly written, the mistakes "jump" to your eyes, so do some words, all this before reading it.

[hypodermic]

Originally posted by Nimdock@27 December 2003 - 22:03
Even though you try to use socratic logic, you are far from it in this case.

You can tell when a post is poorly written, the mistakes "jump" to your eyes, so do some words, all this before reading it.
They cant jump to your eyes without reading them.

[the_faceman]

how hard is it to understand? she starts reading a new topic and gets to a post and if the grammar and spelling are bad she will stop reading said post as she finds it annoying and it probably makes the translation process much more difficult.

[Nimdock]

We are talking about different things here... we said reading a post, as a whole... it&#39;s different from noticing some words, and of course reading them, to read a whole post, which was the initial point being made.

The point made by skweeky was pretty clear, I think.

[Lamsey]

u can tell this psot is carp bcos it contains lots of abbreviations and typoes and this implies that the poestr isnt bothered about the content or the impcat of there psot and r just rattling out a big lump of words which most people will find singularly unpleasant 2 the eye and 2 the mind bcos deciphering this kind of twaddle takes much more effort than the psot desevres especially if u dont speak englsih as a 1st lanuage

[the_faceman]

Adster? Is that you? Are you staying at Lamsey&#39;s house?

[Nimdock]

Originally posted by the_faceman@27 December 2003 - 17:11
Adster? Is that you? Are you staying at Lamsey&#39;s house?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[hypodermic]

Originally posted by Lamsey@27 December 2003 - 22:09
u can tell this psot is carp bcos it contains lots of abbreviations and typoes and this implies that the poestr isnt bothered about the content or the impcat of there psot and r just rattling out a big lump of words which most people will find singularly unpleasant 2 the eye and 2 the mind bcos deciphering this kind of twaddle takes much more effort than the psot desevres especially if u dont speak englsih as a 1st lanuage
The majority of posts are only a couple of sentences at the most. Let&#39;s not get on our high horses about a post that was intended as humour.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Lamsey@27 December 2003 - 23:09
u can tell this psot is carp bcos it contains lots of abbreviations and typoes and this implies that the poestr isnt bothered about the content or the impcat of there psot and r just rattling out a big lump of words which most people will find singularly unpleasant 2 the eye and 2 the mind bcos deciphering this kind of twaddle takes much more effort than the psot desevres especially if u dont speak englsih as a 1st lanuage
Good point - Well presented.

[clocker]

I read for pleasure every day.

The library is your friend.

[TheDave]

Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT@27 December 2003 - 21:01
Hey guys, Id just thought id share my thoughts with you. My level of english is pretty good, understanding of literature in classtime for exams lands me with A grades all the time..............however I NEVER read in my spare time.
I can just not force myself to read... I just think of it as such a big waste of time and uninteresting yet, throughout my whole life ive had no spelling problems etc. (which people often associate to lack of reading).
So was just wondering, any of you guys like NEVER read lol?And not feel the need to?
other than magazines i never read... until this time of year, when people buy me books i always read em and sometimes enjoy em

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by Lamsey+27 December 2003 - 22:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 27 December 2003 - 22:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:57
Sorry Titey? <_<&nbsp; Is it not against the Forum&#39;s rules to attack a Forum Member on a personal level? :unsure:
Well, if they give prior permission (or provocation, such as this (http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/hyposample.doc)) then who are we to question it? [/b][/quote]
i looked at that, but it&#39;s all shite about column widths and such. please sort it into a viewable form my eyes can handle. thanks.


p.s. i find bad spelling, grammar and punctuation annoying as hell.

p.s.s i find not having word installed on your pc and having to type an essay out in word-pad even more annoying. my lecturer wrote i was lazy because all my "i"&#39;s were not "I"&#39;s. I realise this board doesn&#39;t do it automatically either but i am too lazy to edit it in this post.

[the.gringo]

Just like TNTicemanTNT I read mainly when I have to, for school assignments etc. I read occasionaly for the enjoyment but rarely and other than that I only read the newspaper each day. But I still get reasonably good english marks. I don&#39;t think that having bad grammar, vocabulary etc. is directly due to your attitude on how often you read books.

And I triple checked this post for spelling mistakes&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Spider_dude]

on topic, i read at least 2 papers every day, quality ones (record and mirror), i also read a book a week on the bus to uni. and also read 3 music magazines a weekend at work - Kerrang, Q and Mojo - sometimes bang.

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by Spider_dude+28 December 2003 - 01:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spider_dude @ 28 December 2003 - 01:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Lamsey@27 December 2003 - 22:00
<!--QuoteBegin-hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:57
Sorry Titey? <_< Is it not against the Forum&#39;s rules to attack a Forum Member on a personal level? :unsure:
Well, if they give prior permission (or provocation, such as this (http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/hyposample.doc)) then who are we to question it?
i looked at that, but it&#39;s all shite about column widths and such. please sort it into a viewable form my eyes can handle. thanks. [/b][/quote]
http://klboard.ath.cx/?showtopic=57671

[TNTIcemanTNT]

Interesting responses, good to hear your views. I do think it is true that it is possible to gain good english marks without reading immensely.
For example for my A" history Exam, I had to research about Ferdinand and Isabella: Catholic Monarchs , and that involved alot of reading, but I did it because I &#39;had&#39; to in order to achive good marks to get to Uni.
Other than that, I cant bare to pick up a book lol.
Magazines are good, but I suppose that is because the writing is bigger and lotsa pics.
I can also read alot off the web lol, this suggests that I like reading personal views but hate novels.

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by Lamsey+28 December 2003 - 12:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 28 December 2003 - 12:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 01:11

Originally posted by Lamsey@27 December 2003 - 22:00
<!--QuoteBegin-hypodermic@27 December 2003 - 20:57
Sorry Titey? <_< Is it not against the Forum&#39;s rules to attack a Forum Member on a personal level? :unsure:
Well, if they give prior permission (or provocation, such as this (http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/hyposample.doc)) then who are we to question it?
i looked at that, but it&#39;s all shite about column widths and such. please sort it into a viewable form my eyes can handle. thanks.
http://klboard.ath.cx/?showtopic=57671 [/b][/quote]
thanks, i will link him to that when he asks to come back.

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT@28 December 2003 - 13:40
Interesting responses, good to hear your views. I do think it is true that it is possible to gain good english marks without reading immensely.
For example for my A" history Exam, I had to research about Ferdinand and Isabella: Catholic Monarchs , and that involved alot of reading, but I did it because I &#39;had&#39; to in order to achive good marks to get to Uni.
Other than that, I cant bare to pick up a book lol.
Magazines are good, but I suppose that is because the writing is bigger and lotsa pics.
I can also read alot off the web lol, this suggests that I like reading personal views but hate novels.
i didn&#39;t read much at all reaaly while at school, i am excluding all that point horror shite. however my marks were generally good. i believe ability to spell correctly and adhere to correct grammar goes down to a persons character and intelligence rather than having it drilled into them at school.

i remember at school doing a spelling classwork excercise, where you write a word on a bit of paper, then fold the paper into 6 bits and each time fold it over and write it again, then again, till you have it written 6 times. i used to cheat on that.

[Skweeky]

Spider, TNT, in no way this is meant to offend you, I am just pointing something out.

In se there is nothing wrong with the use of your grammar, but when you write a post it is often constructed as spoken English. TNT hardly ever uses paragraphs apostrophes or a capital letter when referring to the first person singular.
Spider does the same thing, does use paragraphs but has a weird way of putting his punctuation.

People who read, like Liam, J&#39;Pol, clocker, pay much more attention to that, and I think that they don&#39;t even have to think about it anymore, it&#39;s an automatism.

A post well constructed with a little attention for image, punctuation, etc...is much nicer to read. Especially for people who aren&#39;t used to reading English that much. :)

[Spider_dude]

skweeky, i do type like i post. My constructive use of punctuation is intended to stress some points without the use of smileys (which i fucking hate).
I will try and type better in the queens english if you like, but if you can understand my posts, which i believe there is a greater chance of than some on this board, i will keep posting in a similar fashion. I will never knowingly post a typo, if i see it i will change and i will try and explain some of my scottish colloquialisms i use in my posts.

[Skweeky]

Oh yes, I do understand your posts perfectly Spider, I was just saying that it&#39;s easier for me, and I think with me a lot of other not native English speakers, it is easier to read something that is written like it was a book, an article, etc... :)

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:27
My constructive use of punctuation is intended to stress some points without the use of smileys (which i fucking hate).
That is just a euphemistic way of saying "I make it up as I go along".

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+28 December 2003 - 14:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 28 December 2003 - 14:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:27
My constructive use of punctuation is intended to stress some points without the use of smileys (which i fucking hate).
That is just a euphemistic way of saying "I make it up as I go along". [/b][/quote]
:D <------i hate this smiley.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude+28 December 2003 - 15:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spider_dude @ 28 December 2003 - 15:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@28 December 2003 - 14:31
<!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:27
My constructive use of punctuation is intended to stress some points without the use of smileys (which i fucking hate).
That is just a euphemistic way of saying "I make it up as I go along".
:D <------i hate this smiley. [/b][/quote]
Your feckin Avatar is a smillie - Irony Boy.

[Cheese]

My sister lives in Reading, she says it&#39;s quite a nice place with lots of good places to eat.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Withcheese@28 December 2003 - 15:35
My sister lives in Reading, she says it&#39;s quite a nice place with lots of good places to eat.
Nice plaice, if you like sea-food.

[Spider_dude]

<------he&#39;s back

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:42
<------he&#39;s back
Makes you seem so much friendlier.

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+28 December 2003 - 14:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 28 December 2003 - 14:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:42
<------he&#39;s back
Makes you seem so much friendlier. [/b][/quote]
that is harsh i am always friendly.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude+28 December 2003 - 15:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spider_dude @ 28 December 2003 - 15:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@28 December 2003 - 14:48
<!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:42
<------he&#39;s back
Makes you seem so much friendlier.
that is harsh i am always friendly. [/b][/quote]
er

[Skweeky]

This is The Police&#33;
Stop hijacking this thread immediately or we WILL start performing&#33;

[Spider_dude]

immediately would be a better choice of word, rather than right now.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Skweeky@28 December 2003 - 15:58
This is The Police&#33;
Stop hijacking this thread right away or we WILL start performing&#33;
Shhhh

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:59
immediately would be a better choice of word, rather than right now.
She said right away, please correct what the person types.

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+28 December 2003 - 15:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 28 December 2003 - 15:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:59
immediately would be a better choice of word, rather than right now.
She said right away, please correct what the person types. [/b][/quote]
thanks for owning me.

[Skweeky]

Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 15:59
immediately would be a better choice of word, rather than right now.
I&#39;m not English, I can make those mistakes :D





ok ok ok, I&#39;ll edit my post :rolleyes:


:lol:

[TNTIcemanTNT]

Originally posted by Skweeky@28 December 2003 - 15:20
Spider, TNT, in no way this is meant to offend you, I am just pointing something out.

In se there is nothing wrong with the use of your grammar, but when you write a post it is often constructed as spoken English. TNT hardly ever uses paragraphs apostrophes or a capital letter when referring to the first person singular.
Spider does the same thing, does use paragraphs but has a weird way of putting his punctuation.

People who read, like Liam, J&#39;Pol, clocker, pay much more attention to that, and I think that they don&#39;t even have to think about it anymore, it&#39;s an automatism.

A post well constructed with a little attention for image, punctuation, etc...is much nicer to read. Especially for people who aren&#39;t used to reading English that much. :)
Dude, another misconception.
I have learn that in paragraphs, you drop a line and indent(which is how it should be done) and not to drop a line completely and start on the 2nd line down.
It just so happens that if you press &#39;Tab&#39; button for paragraph as you would in word, it just scrolls you down to the bottom of the page on Klite.
So if you read more clearly/had knowledge of this particualr thing, your "TNT hardly ever uses paragraphs" is clearly wrong.

[J'Pol]

You are arguing the minutiae of indenting paragraphs with someone for whom English is a second language.

(I&#39;m talking to Skweeky here btw :P)

[Spider_dude]

Might i add indentations are the old way of doing things. if you want to get any where in the business world drop the indentation, it is old and outdated.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 21:48
it is old and outdated.
Seems a bit like tautology to me.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 21:48
Might i add indentations are the old way of doing things. if you want to get any where in the business world drop the indentation, it is old and outdated.
When writing for business I tend to justify my work.

It is just neater.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by TNTIcemanTNT+28 December 2003 - 20:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TNTIcemanTNT @ 28 December 2003 - 20:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Skweeky@28 December 2003 - 15:20
Spider, TNT, in no way this is meant to offend you, I am just pointing something out.

In se there is nothing wrong with the use of your grammar, but when you write a post it is often constructed as spoken English. TNT hardly ever uses paragraphs apostrophes or a capital letter when referring to the first person singular.
Spider does the same thing, does use paragraphs but has a weird way of putting his punctuation.

People who read, like Liam, J&#39;Pol, clocker, pay much more attention to that, and I think that they don&#39;t even have to think about it anymore, it&#39;s an automatism.

A post well constructed with a little attention for image, punctuation, etc...is much nicer to read. Especially for people who aren&#39;t used to reading English that much. :)
Dude, another misconception.
I have learn that in paragraphs, you drop a line and indent(which is how it should be done) and not to drop a line completely and start on the 2nd line down.
It just so happens that if you press &#39;Tab&#39; button for paragraph as you would in word, it just scrolls you down to the bottom of the page on Klite.
So if you read more clearly/had knowledge of this particualr thing, your "TNT hardly ever uses paragraphs" is clearly wrong. [/b][/quote]
Not in the Netherlands, we just "drop" a line; they probably do the same in Belgium...

[Skweeky]

Thank you Nigel, yes indeed, we do just drop a line


It&#39;s amazing, that aggressive approach... :lol:

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+28 December 2003 - 19:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 28 December 2003 - 19:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 21:48
it is old and outdated.
Seems a bit like tautology to me. [/b][/quote]
Not necessarily. The concept of democracy is old but not outdated. Conversly a Pentium MMX chip isn&#39;t really old (less than a decade ago it was cutting-edge) but it&#39;s certainly outdated.

:P

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Lamsey+29 December 2003 - 01:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 29 December 2003 - 01:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@28 December 2003 - 19:49
<!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 21:48
it is old and outdated.
Seems a bit like tautology to me.
Not necessarily. The concept of democracy is old but not outdated. Conversly a Pentium MMX chip isn&#39;t really old (less than a decade ago it was cutting-edge) but it&#39;s certainly outdated.

:P [/b][/quote]
Can you quantify old, outwith the frame of reference in which the description was used.

I never realised it was an empirical concept, thanks for that. :P :P

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+29 December 2003 - 00:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 29 December 2003 - 00:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Lamsey@29 December 2003 - 01:56

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@28 December 2003 - 19:49
<!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@28 December 2003 - 21:48
it is old and outdated.
Seems a bit like tautology to me.
Not necessarily. The concept of democracy is old but not outdated. Conversly a Pentium MMX chip isn&#39;t really old (less than a decade ago it was cutting-edge) but it&#39;s certainly outdated.

:P
Can you quantify old, outwith the frame of reference in which the description was used.

I never realised it was an empirical concept, thanks for that. :P :P [/b][/quote]
OK, bad example.

I&#39;ll let you know when I think of a better one :P :rolleyes:

[J'Pol]

I wait with bated breath - Polly Boy

[Spider_dude]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@29 December 2003 - 01:30
I wait with bated breath - Polly Boy
bated breath and malevolant eyes.

[Lamsey]

Want a cracker&#33; Want a cracker&#33;

[Busyman]

I only read on the crapper and only PC and health mags, newspaper articles, and money management info.

I hate fiction because I think it&#39;s a waste of time. Weird

[internet.news]

I went to Reading for the festival in about &#39;92 (that&#39;s as far as I remember about it)