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tralalala
01-20-2004, 02:15 PM
im sure you all remember the pinned topic in the lounge asking for a new name for the new 100% legal filesharing client... well, WHERE IS IT?? and WHEN WILL IT BE RELEASED??

7thElement... you need to get us all updated on this... ive been pulling my hairs out cos i hasd no idea when it would be released!!!!! :helpsmile: :helpsmile: :helpsmile: :crazy:


tralalala

Illuminati
01-20-2004, 05:49 PM
:lol:

The SwapGate development has moved to another domain - the reason is that the Private & hidden SG Beta Testing forums were disrupting a lot of the board. SG has its own phpBB board which all current & upcoming beta testers have/will have access to. I'll leave posting its location to 7th as I'm sure if he wants it made public at this time :)

As for the program - Beta 5 has just been released, so it should show that a lot of work has been done :) But it's still not ready for public release yet :(

There's no point in any testers giving out the beta, as each beta version carries an authentication system that is unique to each machine and can only got from 7th :lol: However, it HAS been a long time since last heard of here - I'll prepare some current screenshots within the next few hours :) Just don't expect a P2P ambrosia just yet :D

Wizard_Mon1
01-20-2004, 05:58 PM
yay - ambrosia :P

<TROUBLE^MAKER>
01-20-2004, 06:08 PM
Several countries courts including the US have ruled filing sharing perfectly legal, it&#39;s the manufacturing and distributing of copy Righted material that&#39;s illegal.

TARPD
01-20-2004, 06:43 PM
i found an e-mule hash at a website that frowns on file sharing so much their faces have imploded.

sorry, i just wanted to say imploded and found it wierd cos the hash was at one of those sites that are like gamespy and stuff

tralalala
01-20-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati@20 January 2004 - 19:49
I&#39;ll prepare some current screenshots within the next few hours :) Just don&#39;t expect a P2P ambrosia just yet :D
ok Illuminati&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
yeah, i cant wait for them screenshots&#33;&#33; :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:



tralalala

silent VI
01-20-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by tralalala+20 January 2004 - 19:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tralalala @ 20 January 2004 - 19:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Illuminati@20 January 2004 - 19:49
I&#39;ll prepare some current screenshots within the next few hours :)&nbsp; Just don&#39;t expect a P2P ambrosia just yet :D
ok Illuminati&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
yeah, i cant wait for them screenshots&#33;&#33; :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:



tralalala [/b][/quote]
yeah hook it up

tralalala
01-21-2004, 11:34 AM
lol, never knew it took 24 hours to post some screenshots of a filesharing client before... :lol: :P



tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 10:34
lol, never knew it took 24 hours to post some screenshots of a filesharing client before... :lol: :P



tralalala
i&#39;d post some screenies if i got permission :)

Pitbul
01-21-2004, 11:50 AM
if someone came out with a decent high speed P2P client that had good security and hide all of your info, do you have any idea how pissed the MPAA and RIAA would be? i pray someone comes out with it. :01: i would download more then usuall just to piss them off.

DWk
01-21-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by <TROUBLE^MAKER>@20 January 2004 - 11:08
Several countries courts including the US have ruled filing sharing perfectly legal, it&#39;s the manufacturing and distributing of copy Righted material that&#39;s illegal.
uh huh :rolleyes:

But we don&#39;t distribute illegal software, so no worries there :rolleyes:

Illuminati
01-21-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 12:34
lol, never knew it took 24 hours to post some screenshots of a filesharing client before... :lol: :P



tralalala
Sorry about that - I had to sort out some important stuff last night and didn&#39;t have the time :( That, and I need to see 7th about releasing shots - He decides what gets released, not me :) and its not been the first time where I&#39;ve asked him whether to release shots or not ;)

tralalala
01-21-2004, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by 4th gen+21 January 2004 - 13:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 21 January 2004 - 13:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@21 January 2004 - 10:34
lol, never knew it took 24 hours to post some screenshots of a filesharing client before... :lol: :P



tralalala
i&#39;d post some screenies if i got permission :) [/b][/quote]
well, can you PM me screenshots then? im desperate to see &#39;em&#33;&#33;


tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by tralalala+21 January 2004 - 10:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tralalala @ 21 January 2004 - 10:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@21 January 2004 - 13:39
<!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@21 January 2004 - 10:34
lol, never knew it took 24 hours to post some screenshots of a filesharing client before... :lol: :P



tralalala
i&#39;d post some screenies if i got permission :)
well, can you PM me screenshots then? im desperate to see &#39;em&#33;&#33;


tralalala [/b][/quote]
i can draw you an artists impression... ;)

tralalala
01-21-2004, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+21 January 2004 - 14:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 21 January 2004 - 14:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 10:56

Originally posted by 4th gen@21 January 2004 - 13:39
<!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@21 January 2004 - 10:34
lol, never knew it took 24 hours to post some screenshots of a filesharing client before... :lol: :P



tralalala
i&#39;d post some screenies if i got permission :)
well, can you PM me screenshots then? im desperate to see &#39;em&#33;&#33;


tralalala
i can draw you an artists impression... ;) [/b][/quote]
in other words you dont actually have proper screenshots... :(

OI&#33;&#33; ILUMMINATI&#33;&#33;, where are your screenshots?&#33;



tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 11:17
in other words you dont actually have proper screenshots... :(

OI&#33;&#33; ILUMMINATI&#33;&#33;, where are your screenshots?&#33;



tralalala
not long now... :)

tralalala
01-21-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+21 January 2004 - 14:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 21 January 2004 - 14:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@21 January 2004 - 11:17
in other words you dont actually have proper screenshots... :(

OI&#33;&#33; ILUMMINATI&#33;&#33;, where are your screenshots?&#33;



tralalala
not long now... :) [/b][/quote]
whdya mean by that?&#33; :huh:

tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 11:19
whdya mean by that?&#33; :huh:

tralalala
not long until the screenies are posted :)

7thElement
01-21-2004, 12:57 PM
A few impressions

http://www.swapgate.com/impressions/impressions.html

That&#39;s all until we release :)

DanB
01-21-2004, 01:16 PM
That looks good 7th. :)

Any ideas on a release date yet? :unsure:

tralalala
01-21-2004, 01:40 PM
looks confusing... :unsure:

will kazaa-ignite work with it?
will it have all the users of Kazaa on it too?
does it have a built in speed-up programme in it?


tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 12:40
looks confusing... :unsure:
it&#39;s actually very easy to use once you get past the intial startup...

it&#39;s no harder to use than kazaa really :)

7thElement
01-21-2004, 01:44 PM
Nope it is not related with kazaa at all. The fasttrack network is not the best one if it comes to sharing.

I cannot answer more questions as we are busy with the development (own protocol too)

The screenshots are the only thing that we can post for now. No additional details are available until released.

tralalala
01-21-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@21 January 2004 - 15:44
Nope it is not related with kazaa at all. The fasttrack network is not the best one if it comes to sharing.

I cannot answer more questions as we are busy with the development (own protocol too)

The screenshots are the only thing that we can post for now. No additional details are available until released.
wait a second... if its not related to Kazaa at all, then there will hardly be any files on there... right?

users - there will be a tiny ammount
files - a small ammount
speeds - thats something i was gonna ask before :P :lol:


tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 12:53
wait a second... if its not related to Kazaa at all, then there will hardly be any files on there... right?
take a look at the screenshots again... ;)

:)

sharedholder
01-21-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 13:40
looks confusing... :unsure:

will kazaa-ignite work with it?
will it have all the users of Kazaa on it too?
does it have a built in speed-up programme in it?


tralalala
I think is based on Openap protocol if i remember. (http://opennap.sourceforge.net/)

7thElement
01-21-2004, 02:06 PM
The current client supports opennap (meaning there is a userbase to start with).

Look at the screenshots how many (only connected to 7 / 1000&#39;s of servers) and you will see that there are enough users :)

However... the final product will use our own protocol (not based on opennap) and the opennap protocol as additional resource.

tralalala
01-21-2004, 02:10 PM
ummm, ok 7th... whatever you say... :unsure: its just i aint too good with these things... :lol:

anyway, i appreciate your hard work very muh, and i am looking forward to the final product. :)


tralalala

Pitbul
01-21-2004, 04:26 PM
it seemed kinda slow :( it was only going a few KB/s or is this due to few sources and dial up?

cosmic doobie
01-21-2004, 04:34 PM
:D Liking the look of this baby.
BRING IT ON&#33;&#33;&#33;

tralalala
01-21-2004, 05:07 PM
does it work ANYTHING like k-lite? if so, whats similar and what isnt?


tralalala

4th gen
01-21-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@21 January 2004 - 16:07
does it work ANYTHING like k-lite? if so, whats similar and what isnt?


tralalala
it&#39;s similar to kazaa in the way that you search for files, however, from the screenshots, you can see the chat interface too, which is similar to Soulseek...

it&#39;s hard to explain without giving specifics, which 7thElement obviously doesn&#39;t want to do at this time, so it looks like you&#39;ll have to wait (can&#39;t say release date)...or become a beta-tester :)

dwightfry
01-21-2004, 05:37 PM
can&#39;t say release date

So, do they have one in mind, or are there still things they are working on so they don&#39;t know?

4th gen
01-21-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by dwightfry@21 January 2004 - 16:37

can&#39;t say release date

So, do they have one in mind, or are there still things they are working on so they don&#39;t know?
:lol:

read into it what you will... :)

dwightfry
01-21-2004, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+21 January 2004 - 11:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 21 January 2004 - 11:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-dwightfry@21 January 2004 - 16:37

can&#39;t say release date

So, do they have one in mind, or are there still things they are working on so they don&#39;t know?
:lol:

read into it what you will... :) [/b][/quote]
:frusty:

internet.news
01-21-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati@20 January 2004 - 18:49
:lol:

The SwapGate development has moved to another domain - the reason is that the Private & hidden SG Beta Testing forums were disrupting a lot of the board. SG has its own phpBB board which all current & upcoming beta testers have/will have access to. I&#39;ll leave posting its location to 7th as I&#39;m sure if he wants it made public at this time :)

As for the program - Beta 5 has just been released, so it should show that a lot of work has been done :) But it&#39;s still not ready for public release yet :(

There&#39;s no point in any testers giving out the beta, as each beta version carries an authentication system that is unique to each machine and can only got from 7th :lol: However, it HAS been a long time since last heard of here - I&#39;ll prepare some current screenshots within the next few hours :) Just don&#39;t expect a P2P ambrosia just yet :D
I have a few questions:

1) It would interest me who first have had the idea for SG?
2) ... and who are the programmers? Only 7th? I don&#39;t think R_Nut is one of them?
3) When it will be released will the Source Code be as well published as Open Source? It would help to push developement if everyone contributes a little s seen
on other OS Projects.

internet.news
01-21-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by 7thElement@21 January 2004 - 14:44
Nope it is not related with kazaa at all. The fasttrack network is not the best one if it comes to sharing.

I cannot answer more questions as we are busy with the development (own protocol too)

The screenshots are the only thing that we can post for now. No additional details are available until released.
On the Screenshots I saw over 50000 Users? All beta testers?

I don&#39;t think so - you are relying to an OpenNap Server, I think.

4th gen
01-21-2004, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by internet.news+21 January 2004 - 17:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (internet.news &#064; 21 January 2004 - 17:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>On the Screenshots I saw over 50000 Users? All beta testers?

I don&#39;t think so - you are relying to an OpenNap Server, I think.[/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-7thElement
The current client supports opennap (meaning there is a userbase to start with).

Look at the screenshots how many (only connected to 7 / 1000&#39;s of servers) and you will see that there are enough users

However... the final product will use our own protocol (not based on opennap) and the opennap protocol as additional resource.[/quote]

:)

internet.news
01-21-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+21 January 2004 - 19:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 21 January 2004 - 19:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by internet.news@21 January 2004 - 17:12
On the Screenshots I saw over 50000 Users? All beta testers?

I don&#39;t think so - you are relying to an OpenNap Server, I think.
<!--QuoteBegin-7thElement
The current client supports opennap (meaning there is a userbase to start with).

Look at the screenshots how many (only connected to 7 / 1000&#39;s of servers) and you will see that there are enough users

However... the final product will use our own protocol (not based on opennap) and the opennap protocol as additional resource.

:) [/b][/quote]
I don&#39;t that SG Beta already has 50.000 Users only using SG Beta.

I think 7th is joking a little bit and connecting to Opennap, ey, but what is wrong with that?

4th gen
01-21-2004, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by internet.news@21 January 2004 - 18:14
I don&#39;t that SG Beta already has 50.000 Users only using SG Beta.

I think 7th is joking a little bit and connecting to Opennap, ey, but what is wrong with that?
yeah, he&#39;s admitting that the client is conencting to other networks, read the quote again

there are only about 20 or so beta testers currently :)

internet.news
01-21-2004, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+21 January 2004 - 20:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 21 January 2004 - 20:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-internet.news@21 January 2004 - 18:14
I don&#39;t that SG Beta already has 50.000 Users only using SG Beta.

I think 7th is joking a little bit and connecting to Opennap, ey, but what is wrong with that?
yeah, he&#39;s admitting that the client is conencting to other networks, read the quote again

there are only about 20 or so beta testers currently :) [/b][/quote]
OpenNap is cool as there are many small servers - I was a server in a Network called ballad one time - with ppl and with chats...

tralalala
01-21-2004, 08:16 PM
well... there isnt another choice than connecting to other networks with people on it because startiing a new network from scratch would take quite a while to build up (the 70,000 forum members ARENT enough).

so, connecting to another network is nothing to be ashamed of...


actually, i think that if they make one that connects to another network and release it, then they can start on the same programme, but connecting to its own network...



tralalala

-Huize-
01-22-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by internet.news+21 January 2004 - 20:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (internet.news @ 21 January 2004 - 20:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 4th gen@21 January 2004 - 20:21
<!--QuoteBegin-internet.news@21 January 2004 - 18:14
I don&#39;t that SG Beta already has 50.000 Users only using SG Beta.

I think 7th is joking a little bit and connecting to Opennap, ey, but what is wrong with that?
yeah, he&#39;s admitting that the client is conencting to other networks, read the quote again

there are only about 20 or so beta testers currently :)
OpenNap is cool as there are many small servers - I was a server in a Network called ballad one time - with ppl and with chats... [/b][/quote]
Keyword being "was" here.

WAS as in not anymore&#33; tyvm

tralalala
01-22-2004, 06:01 PM
will it be released by lets say april of this year?
i need a date to get ready for...


tralalala

4th gen
01-22-2004, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by tralalala@22 January 2004 - 17:01
will it be released by lets say april of this year?
i need a date to get ready for...


tralalala
How does April 1st sound? :)

jetje
01-22-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen@22 January 2004 - 20:45
How does April 1st sound? :)
as a fools day :lol:

4th gen
01-22-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by jetje+22 January 2004 - 18:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jetje @ 22 January 2004 - 18:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@22 January 2004 - 20:45
How does April 1st sound?&nbsp; :)
as a fools day :lol: [/b][/quote]
:-"

:)

tralalala
01-22-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen@22 January 2004 - 21:45
How does April 1st sound? :)
Hey everybody... SwapGate doesnt even exist&#33;&#33; they are just making all this to come up on April 1st, redirect us the the SwapGate site and it&#39;ll say on the main page of the site:"APRIL FOOLS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



tralalala :lol: :lol: <_<

Illuminati
01-22-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by tralalala+22 January 2004 - 21:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tralalala @ 22 January 2004 - 21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@22 January 2004 - 21:45
How does April 1st sound?&nbsp; :)
Hey everybody... SwapGate doesnt even exist&#33;&#33; they are just making all this to come up on April 1st, redirect us the the SwapGate site and it&#39;ll say on the main page of the site:"APRIL FOOLS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



tralalala :lol: :lol: <_< [/b][/quote]
Nah - Not many won&#39;t notice ;)

We&#39;re already planning on pulling this board down and putting up an RIAA notice in its place then anyway :devil:

Lite
01-22-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati+22 January 2004 - 22:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati @ 22 January 2004 - 22:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by tralalala@22 January 2004 - 21:09
<!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@22 January 2004 - 21:45
How does April 1st sound?&nbsp; :)
Hey everybody... SwapGate doesnt even exist&#33;&#33; they are just making all this to come up on April 1st, redirect us the the SwapGate site and it&#39;ll say on the main page of the site:"APRIL FOOLS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



tralalala :lol: :lol: <_<
Nah - Not many won&#39;t notice ;)

We&#39;re already planning on pulling this board down and putting up an RIAA notice in its place then anyway :devil: [/b][/quote]
ahh, so thats what 7th was on about on SwapGate the other day :D :lol:

tralalala
01-23-2004, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Illuminati+23 January 2004 - 00:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati @ 23 January 2004 - 00:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by tralalala@22 January 2004 - 21:09
<!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@22 January 2004 - 21:45
How does April 1st sound? :)
Hey everybody... SwapGate doesnt even exist&#33;&#33; they are just making all this to come up on April 1st, redirect us the the SwapGate site and it&#39;ll say on the main page of the site:"APRIL FOOLS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



tralalala :lol: :lol: <_<
Nah - Not many won&#39;t notice ;)

We&#39;re already planning on pulling this board down and putting up an RIAA notice in its place then anyway :devil: [/b][/quote]
lol, and itll only be the RIAA?? what about the MPAA?? they will want a bit of the fun too dont you think?&#33;


tralalala :lol: