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mutha trucka
02-03-2004, 06:44 AM
My friend has a four year old, 500 MHz PC with 10 GB hard drive. He wants to use it for internet. He still has Windows 98 and it crashes pretty often. He has the installation disks for Linux: Red Hat but, having never used linux, he's afraid to try it and says he will stick to windows. I have only bairly used linux myself and that was debian--is red hat pretty easy, comparable to windows? Should he use red hat or stick with shitty old windows 98? Or should he do something else? Thanks.

shn
02-03-2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by mutha trucka@3 February 2004 - 00:44
My friend has a four year old, 500 MHz PC with 10 GB hard drive. He wants to use it for internet. He still has Windows 98 and it crashes pretty often. He has the installation disks for Linux: Red Hat but, having never used linux, he's afraid to try it and says he will stick to windows. I have only bairly used linux myself and that was debian--is red hat pretty easy, comparable to windows? Should he use red hat or stick with shitty old windows 98? Or should he do something else? Thanks.
upgrade the pc to windows 2000. :)

Xero Grid
02-03-2004, 07:10 AM
Red Hat is actually really easy, but just go with Windows 2000. If the comp can handle 98, then it can definately handle 2000 (or Linux without question).
You can even try XP, but you need to tweak it a bit and take some of the crap off it, but it may not be worth it.

shn's got the right idea.

BTW, if you're curious about linux, DONT install it. There's no need anymore. :D
SLAX (http://slax.linux-live.org/)
This isn't Red Hat, but it's still linux, and it runs off the disk. You can check it out. It's small enough to run off a mini-CD! It originally started with the Slackware Distro.

-- Xero Grid --

lotus7
02-03-2004, 12:56 PM
Linux is not too difficult to use, BUT installing EXTRA software, and who doesn't want or need to do that, is (or was for me) a virtual nightmare! If he is afraid of trying it in the first place, he should stick to some version of windows and all its user friendly features.

Livy
02-03-2004, 01:07 PM
2000 will run good on that machine, i had a amd k6-2 50 with 256mb ram and it ran great, win98 ran crap on it, was usntable, and got bogged down afr tp easy, since i put 2000 on it, it has been fine,

one down side is that startup times will be a little longer, but it wirth it for the stability.

mutha trucka
02-03-2004, 04:27 PM
Cool, thanks. I'll try to get him a copy of windows 2000.

Livy
02-03-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by mutha trucka@3 February 2004 - 16:27
Cool, thanks. I'll try to get him a copy of windows 2000.
u can get win 2000 with sp4 integrated of emule.

Windows 2000 SP4 Integrated (http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=5389)

muchspl2
02-03-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by shn+3 February 2004 - 01:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 3 February 2004 - 01:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mutha trucka@3 February 2004 - 00:44
My friend has a four year old, 500 MHz PC with 10 GB hard drive.&nbsp; He wants to use it for internet.&nbsp; He still has Windows 98 and it crashes pretty often.&nbsp; He has the installation disks for Linux: Red Hat but, having never used linux, he&#39;s afraid to try it and says he will stick to windows.&nbsp; I have only bairly used linux myself and that was debian--is red hat pretty easy, comparable to windows?&nbsp; Should he use red hat or stick with shitty old windows 98?&nbsp; Or should he do something else?&nbsp; Thanks.
upgrade the pc to windows 2000. :) [/b][/quote]
agreed

Lite
02-03-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Livy+3 February 2004 - 16:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Livy @ 3 February 2004 - 16:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mutha trucka@3 February 2004 - 16:27
Cool, thanks.&nbsp; I&#39;ll try to get him a copy of windows 2000.
u can get win 2000 with sp4 integrated of emule.

Windows 2000 SP4 Integrated (http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=5389) [/b][/quote]
i wouldnt get sp4, it messes up, i would get sp3 B)

Livy
02-03-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Lite+3 February 2004 - 16:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lite @ 3 February 2004 - 16:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Livy@3 February 2004 - 16:30
<!--QuoteBegin-mutha trucka@3 February 2004 - 16:27
Cool, thanks. I&#39;ll try to get him a copy of windows 2000.
u can get win 2000 with sp4 integrated of emule.

Windows 2000 SP4 Integrated (http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=5389)
i wouldnt get sp4, it messes up, i would get sp3 B) [/b][/quote]
i heard that too, but i never had anyprobs with it.

Lite
02-03-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Livy+3 February 2004 - 17:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Livy @ 3 February 2004 - 17:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Lite@3 February 2004 - 16:52

Originally posted by Livy@3 February 2004 - 16:30
<!--QuoteBegin-mutha trucka@3 February 2004 - 16:27
Cool, thanks.&nbsp; I&#39;ll try to get him a copy of windows 2000.
u can get win 2000 with sp4 integrated of emule.

Windows 2000 SP4 Integrated (http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=5389)
i wouldnt get sp4, it messes up, i would get sp3 B)
i heard that too, but i never had anyprobs with it. [/b][/quote]
i speak from experiance mate B)

If i use sp4, cuases my pc to crash and often use 100% CPU, thats why i always use SP3

Livy
02-03-2004, 05:53 PM
oh weell, never had probs here, ran sp4 from integrated clean install, on amd k6-2 500mhz machien, with 256mb ram. no crashes or anything wrong.

ultimatejester
02-03-2004, 08:04 PM
So teme Xero Grid. If i get Slax do i need a USB key to save my files.

Thnx

shn
02-03-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by ultimatejester@3 February 2004 - 14:04
So teme Xero Grid. If i get Slax do i need a USB key to save my files.

Thnx
No, slax has a script you can run and you can save your files to /dev/fd0 (floppy) or a partition on your hard disk. Then you can run the script again to get back your configuration

http://slax.linux-live.org/faqs.php#configsave :)

ultimatejester
02-03-2004, 08:22 PM
Thank God.

Thnx :D

ultimatejester
02-03-2004, 09:03 PM
Taken from the Slax Bulletin Board.


SLAX 3.0.25-2 doesn&#39;t handle some floppy drives properly, and it hangs for a long time (from 30 seconds to 10 minutes) waiting for the response from floppy. The only way how to speed up the booting is to insert empty floppy medium to the drive.

I&#39;ve tried mtools but nothing seems to work.
I have one computer available (compaq w2k server) which does this, so I can experiment with it. I think that it&#39;s a hardware problem.

I will try to fix it, but if I wouldn&#39;t be able to do so then I will be forced to remove floppy automounting (and autorestoring settings from it). :angry:

My stupid dell has only one bay so the floppy has to stay out. Does anybody else know how to make it faster.

shn
02-03-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by ultimatejester@3 February 2004 - 15:03
Taken from the Slax Bulletin Board.


SLAX 3.0.25-2 doesn&#39;t handle some floppy drives properly, and it hangs for a long time (from 30 seconds to 10 minutes) waiting for the response from floppy. The only way how to speed up the booting is to insert empty floppy medium to the drive.

I&#39;ve tried mtools but nothing seems to work.
I have one computer available (compaq w2k server) which does this, so I can experiment with it. I think that it&#39;s a hardware problem.

I will try to fix it, but if I wouldn&#39;t be able to do so then I will be forced to remove floppy automounting (and autorestoring settings from it). :angry:

My stupid dell has only one bay so the floppy has to stay out. Does anybody else know how to make it faster.
Mount a separate linux ext2 or ext3 partition at boot and use that in place of your floppy drive. Better that way anyway, that way you can pick the size and probably add the mount options to the your /etc/fstab file and it will mount at automatically at boot.

Do a little more research on slax&#39;s site and youll see how to in detail. ;)

mutha trucka
02-05-2004, 03:22 PM
Is it difficult to upgrade from windows 98 to windows 2000?

Lite
02-05-2004, 04:31 PM
nope, you can upgrade doing a "upgrade" install, by simply placing the CD in while windows is booted up or do a clean format and reinstall (reccomended)

ObiWan
02-05-2004, 11:07 PM
i wouldnt upgrade as it can fuck with installed progs, leaves lots of unnecessay files, proggies and reg keys and you would still be on fat32

just boot from the win 2k cd and follow the onscreen instructions, after teh partitions have been taken care of (defaults will probably do) it is the same anyway (clicking next a few hundred times)

also ensure you have all file backed up and know all that is required to install windows especially the cd key