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Hector
02-03-2004, 04:44 PM
I'm gonna need about a Gig of ram for my new PC (when I've ordered and built it) but I can't afford any of the high end memory like corsair or Kingston!

Anyone know if Adata is any good? I can get two sticks of this for less than £100:

A-Data DDR-400 512Mb PC-400/3200

FeaturesDensity (MB) - 512
Organization - 64MX64
Bank/Interface - 4B/SSTL2
Refresh - 8K/64ms
#of pin - 184
Component Composition - (32MX8)*16

SpecificationDensity (MB) - 512
Organization - 64MX64
Bank/Interface - 4B/SSTL2
Refresh - 8K/64ms
#of pin - 184
Component Composition - (32MX8)*16

It will be for an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, NVIDIA® NFORCE2 Ultra 400 + MCP-T
Chipset, 400 MHz FSB, Dual-Channel DDR400 Memory

With an AMD Barton 2500+ CPU.

Also, if I get 2 sticks of exactly the same ram will make effective use of the moboard's dual-channel? :blink:

Any suggestions would be welcome!!

callum
02-03-2004, 05:39 PM
I have 512mb of pc3200 adata memory, I don't really know how good it is, but i've had no problems with it.
I'm thinking of buying more, where are you getting it from? The cheapest I have seen is £60 for 512mb.

Hector
02-03-2004, 06:00 PM
http://www.computer-garage.co.uk/59/4295.html

Can't figure out what CL it is though, some of the other sites selling Adata have usually been CL 2.5.

Does the CL really make that much difference though?

Livy
02-03-2004, 06:03 PM
if u intend to use them in dual channel mode they may not work if you just buy to, you may have to buy a matched pair.

other people may be able to say whether or not ti matters

callum
02-03-2004, 06:09 PM
Here's what aida32 says about my adata, don't know if that helps you :D


512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM ]

Memory Module Properties:
Serial Number None
Module Size 512 MB (2 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)

Memory Module Features:
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Hector
02-03-2004, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the stats, some of it helps, but wouldn't life be easier if RAM wasn't such a pain in the ass to figure out! :frusty:

It seems so simple on the surface but when the moboard make (asus) starts specifying lots of figures and certain specifications (see here for example (bottom) http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n...d/overview.htm) (http://uk.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-e-d/overview.htm)), which lots of vendors don't bother to show it turns into a very lengthy and dull process. :frusty: :blink:

Maybe i'm just being extra paranoid, havn't built a comp before and I really don't want it to go tits-up! (I'm also a scrooge and want to get the best for my hard earned cash, even if that ain't much)! :huh:

tesco
02-03-2004, 09:57 PM
that stuff at the bottom is just the ram that they have tested and ensure it works, but a lot of other ram WILL work on that motherboard.

Hector
02-03-2004, 10:20 PM
That's what i figured, although there is some that can cause problems (apparently TwinMoss can be problematic).

Whilst we're on the subject...

Am I likely to have any problems running DDR400 Ram with the AMD Barton 2500+ (333FSB) without any overclocking or anything?

Whilst I do intend to overclock at some stage I am a TOTAL begginner at it and want to make sure that my system is gonna be stable before I go down that route!

tesco
02-03-2004, 11:29 PM
yeah that ram will work it will just run at 333mhz for now, but adds a lot of expandability when overclocking. (the ram isnt gonna be the weaklink, as it is said to run at 400mhz and you probably wont up the fsb past 400)

Hector
02-04-2004, 12:15 AM
Thanks for that answer, Rossco. A bit of reassurance goes a long way! I'm trying my damnest to research this whole thing thourghly, but with so many differnt variables it's easy to loose track!! :D

Just to be sure...

It is possible to overclock the FSB on a Barton 2500+ from 333 to 400 (thus untilising the Ram to it's potential) isn't it?

tesco
02-04-2004, 12:21 AM
well, i dont think you could ocerclock the chip by that much, you might get lucky, but usually it will have stopped being able to boot at fsb's lower than 400 (i think, ive never overclocked before i just know this stuff...somehow. lol) but sometimes when trying to voerclock a chip you will run into the problem where the fsb cant go any higher because the memory you have isnt very good for overclocking. with 400fsb ram you should be able to get the chip up without having to worry about memory problems. the only problem will be the chip in that case.

Hector
02-04-2004, 12:41 AM
Thanks, that's what I think I was planning on the outset, after hearing so many great overclocking recommendations about the Barton 2500+ chip. Whew :P

I'm starting to go round in circles!!

pc-gamer-dude
02-04-2004, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@3 February 2004 - 19:21
well, i dont think you could ocerclock the chip by that much, you might get lucky, but usually it will have stopped being able to boot at fsb's lower than 400 (i think, ive never overclocked before i just know this stuff...somehow. lol) but sometimes when trying to voerclock a chip you will run into the problem where the fsb cant go any higher because the memory you have isnt very good for overclocking. with 400fsb ram you should be able to get the chip up without having to worry about memory problems. the only problem will be the chip in that case.
dude everyone runs there barton 2500+ at 200x11 (meaning 400mhz fsb) with no problems. hell even stock cooling is enough to do that (but with decently high temps of 50+). so if u plan on overclocking make sure to get a better heatsink and thermal paste. and the memory looks ok, ive never heard of them tho... also u will have NO problems overclocking the processor up to 400mhz fsb as long as u have decent airflow.

Hector
02-04-2004, 01:09 AM
Excellent! PC-gamer-dude, that is just what I wanted to hear! Cheers! :D

Livy
02-04-2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Hector@4 February 2004 - 01:09
Excellent! PC-gamer-dude, that is just what I wanted to hear! Cheers! :D
it you run it at 400fsb u may have to up the vcore of the chip, and also is ur board capable of changing the fsb

callum
02-04-2004, 01:54 AM
There are plenty of threads on adata memory here http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/

I think you have to register to to search for them though.

tesco
02-04-2004, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by pc&#045;gamer&#045;dude+3 February 2004 - 19:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 3 February 2004 - 19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@3 February 2004 - 19:21
well, i dont think you could ocerclock the chip by that much, you might get lucky, but usually it will have stopped being able to boot at fsb&#39;s lower than 400 (i think, ive never overclocked before i just know this stuff...somehow. lol) but sometimes when trying to voerclock a chip you will run into the problem where the fsb cant go any higher because the memory you have isnt very good for overclocking. with 400fsb ram you should be able to get the chip up without having to worry about memory problems. the only problem will be the chip in that case.
dude everyone runs there barton 2500+ at 200x11 (meaning 400mhz fsb) with no problems. hell even stock cooling is enough to do that (but with decently high temps of 50+). so if u plan on overclocking make sure to get a better heatsink and thermal paste. and the memory looks ok, ive never heard of them tho... also u will have NO problems overclocking the processor up to 400mhz fsb as long as u have decent airflow. [/b][/quote]
really? i didnt know you could overclock it by so much with no problems. i learnt something new today :)