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Keikan
02-05-2004, 12:49 AM
Because of my other topic going WAAAAAAAY off topic I want to start a new one.

My question:

Sapphire Radeon 9600pro: $220cnd
PowerColor Radeon 9600pro: $220cnd
Asus Radeon 9600xt: $265cnd

Now comparing the pro and xt's specs is it worth the money to buy an xt over pro?

PS: I cannot internet shop. Prices as is.

Now if the pro is better should I get the Sapphire or Powercolor?

Dray_04
02-05-2004, 01:00 AM
powercolour seems to cost more ove here (NZ) , so im guessing that they have a better reputation or higher quality cards.

go for the powercolour 9600pro and oc to an XT :)

TheFilePirater
02-05-2004, 01:03 AM
YAY&#33;&#33; another 50 page thread on vid cards <_<

EDIT: id save up and get a 9800pro :D

EDIT 2: there

Keikan
02-05-2004, 01:14 AM
It won&#39;t be 50 pages as long as people don&#39;t start arguing about something unrelated

_John_Lennon_
02-05-2004, 01:38 AM
the 9600XT looks like a good deal, I would go with that.

adamp2p
02-05-2004, 01:40 AM
If I were you I would buy a Sappire Radeon 9600 Pro, like file pirater said, overclock it to the speeds of the XT. Otherwise, if you have the money to blow, get the XT (but see if you can find one that is not ASUS, I heard they are not the most stable)

_John_Lennon_
02-05-2004, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p@4 February 2004 - 20:40
If I were you I would buy a Sappire Radeon 9600 Pro, like file pirater said, overclock it to the speeds of the XT. Otherwise, if you have the money to blow, get the XT (but see if you can find one that is not ASUS, I heard they are not the most stable)
45 CND isnt that much though, only, what, 30 USD I guess?

Keikan
02-05-2004, 02:48 AM
Hmm I&#39;m not gonna overclock anything just yet. But are the stocks speeds of the pro almost the same to the xt?

bluedevil
02-05-2004, 03:02 AM
just a smal comperison
sapphire
9600 Pro 400/400/640
9600 XT 400/500/600
asus
9600 XT 400/500/650

Keikan
02-05-2004, 03:11 AM
Core Speed 400mhz
Memory Speed 300x2 mhz

adamp2p
02-05-2004, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@4 February 2004 - 19:11
Core Speed 400mhz
Memory Speed 300x2 mhz
Keikan, to maximize our helpfulness to you, could you provide us with links to the stores in your vicinity?

Keikan
02-05-2004, 05:16 AM
Umm. the sites store is super confusing for example when you see a 9600xt for sale and it&#39;s &#036;220 then it&#39;s a pro... but good luck :)


http://www.iccomputers.ca

adamp2p
02-05-2004, 08:57 AM
Now you have to tell us what the maximum you can spend is, including tax.
By the way, Keikan, what is your current mobo, CPU, memory, and power supply unit setup?

Edit: and here is a funny little comic I found: Who does this remind you of?

http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20012199640204.gif

Keikan
02-06-2004, 12:22 AM
&#036;1500 on that site

But that store only has Asus 9600xt no others.

I just might get the pro seeing there not that much difference but then it becomes sapphire vs powercolor

MY setup? will be

AMD Athlon XP Barton 2x00+
Gigabyte ga-7n400-L1
1024mb pc3200 ram
350watt powersuply

reminds me of intel...

Keikan
02-07-2004, 12:27 AM
bump

SciManAl
02-07-2004, 01:00 AM
Looks good any of the above cards will perform similarly... You may get slight nechmark differences but the gam,es will play the same... Go for it

BTW nice rig... good starting platfrom... try to get a barton core... easier yo cool better etc...

Keikan
02-07-2004, 01:38 AM
ya but I can&#39;t decide 2500+ or 2800+

Keikan
02-07-2004, 06:54 AM
Ahh update: the powercolor 9600pro is cheaper should i get that?

adamp2p
02-07-2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@6 February 2004 - 22:54
Ahh update: the powercolor 9600pro is cheaper should i get that?
Yes/well to tell you the truth do whatever is best for your budget. What is its price?

As far as I know the price of the 2500+ is &#036;90 USD, a great deal. I would get that. If you are not satisfied with the performance, you can comfortable and easily overclock it to the 2800+.

Keikan
02-07-2004, 07:29 AM
Everything fits into my &#036;1500 budget or close. I can afford the sapphire or the powercolor and I can afford the 2500 or the 2800 :o but i pick 2800 because I&#39;m not gonna be overclocking for a while. Now it&#39;s powercolor or sapphire 9600pro which shall I choose

adamp2p
02-07-2004, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@6 February 2004 - 23:29
Everything fits into my &#036;1500 budget or close. I can afford the sapphire or the powercolor and I can afford the 2500 or the 2800 :o but i pick 2800 because I&#39;m not gonna be overclocking for a while. Now it&#39;s powercolor or sapphire 9600pro which shall I choose
Sorry, my friend, but that is just foolish, (no offense, I am just trying to make a point) you should not spend any extra money beyond the 2500+, the only difference between the 2500+ and the 2800+ is less that 200 MHz. Anyone can overclock 200MHz safely. Regardless, going from your current processor to the 2500+ or the 2800+ you would not know the difference. Save your money and get better graphics&#33;

I found a Sappire Radeon 9800 SE for &#036;234, which is a great deal, the best at your store

peat moss
02-07-2004, 07:34 AM
Kei your going to hate me but buy the 9700 pro :lol:

Keikan
02-07-2004, 07:37 AM
Canada doesn&#39;t have the 9700pro looked everywhere and se...?

Maybe i&#39;ll get 2500+ It lowered my comp price dramatically like 1000 bux :)

adamp2p
02-07-2004, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@6 February 2004 - 23:37
Canada doesn&#39;t have the 9700pro looked everywhere and se...?

Maybe i&#39;ll get 2500+ It lowered my comp price dramatically like 1000 bux :)
At your store:



Athlon XP 2500+ = &#036;137 1.83 GHz
Athlon XP 2800+ = &#036;217 2.08 GHz

Sorry dude, that is a rip, stick with the 2500+&#33;

;)

Keikan
02-07-2004, 07:57 AM
Checking out the final specs

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ FSB333 Barton (Retail)
Zalman CNP3100Plus Socket A Heat Sink
Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1 nForce2 Ultra400 Dual DDR400 FSB400 8X AGP
Samsung/Infineon Chip 512MB PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR (2)
Sapphire Radeon 9600PRO 128MB DDR 8X AGP
Creative Sound Blaster Live&#33; 5.1
On Board - 10/100 x1Port
Maxtor 120GB 7200rpm 8MB Cache IDE
Lite-On 48X/16X CDRW/DVD-ROM Combo (Beige)
Panasonic 1.44MB Floppy Drive (Beige)
PS/2 Keyboard
Optical PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Stereo Speakers
IC Cloud Case
Standard 350W Power Supply
AOC 17" 7F Beige Flat CRT
3 Year Labour & 2 Year Parts Depot Warranty ( 3&2 Depot Warranty )

I think its good

adamp2p
02-07-2004, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@6 February 2004 - 23:57
Checking out the final specs

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ FSB333 Barton (Retail)
Zalman CNP3100Plus Socket A Heat Sink
Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1 nForce2 Ultra400 Dual DDR400 FSB400 8X AGP
Samsung/Infineon Chip 512MB PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR (2)
Sapphire Radeon 9600PRO 128MB DDR 8X AGP
Creative Sound Blaster Live&#33; 5.1
On Board - 10/100 x1Port
Maxtor 120GB 7200rpm 8MB Cache IDE
Lite-On 48X/16X CDRW/DVD-ROM Combo (Beige)
Panasonic 1.44MB Floppy Drive (Beige)
PS/2 Keyboard
Optical PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Stereo Speakers
IC Cloud Case
Standard 350W Power Supply
AOC 17" 7F Beige Flat CRT
3 Year Labour & 2 Year Parts Depot Warranty ( 3&2 Depot Warranty )

I think its good
Oh...so you are buying a prebuilt system...oh...I thought you were putting it together yourself...I looked around that website...just make sure you get the nforce2 mobo

Keikan
02-07-2004, 08:05 AM
not prebuilt i pick the parts they assemble since my mom "doesn&#39;t trust me" which is bullshit if u ask me...

gungrave
02-07-2004, 08:45 AM
Intel Pentium II 400mhz @ 504mhz (Ohohoho), Abit BH6 1.1, 192mb Pc-126 SDRAM, ATI Xpert 128 16mb, Quantum Fireball 6.1gb


is that ur pc?
cos it is crap :lol:

gungrave
02-07-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@7 February 2004 - 07:57
Checking out the final specs

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ FSB333 Barton (Retail)
Zalman CNP3100Plus Socket A Heat Sink
Gigabyte GA-7N400-L1 nForce2 Ultra400 Dual DDR400 FSB400 8X AGP
Samsung/Infineon Chip 512MB PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR (2)
Sapphire Radeon 9600PRO 128MB DDR 8X AGP
Creative Sound Blaster Live&#33; 5.1
On Board - 10/100 x1Port
Maxtor 120GB 7200rpm 8MB Cache IDE
Lite-On 48X/16X CDRW/DVD-ROM Combo (Beige)
Panasonic 1.44MB Floppy Drive (Beige)
PS/2 Keyboard
Optical PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Stereo Speakers
IC Cloud Case
Standard 350W Power Supply
AOC 17" 7F Beige Flat CRT
3 Year Labour & 2 Year Parts Depot Warranty ( 3&2 Depot Warranty )

I think its good
who uses floops?
they cant eaven fit 1 song on em :lol:
its like the stonage :lol:

Keikan
02-07-2004, 09:01 AM
I&#39;m getting a floppy for "emergency" my pc is old, why do you think i&#39;m getting a new one? duh.

Mad Cat
02-07-2004, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by TheFilePirater@5 February 2004 - 01:03
YAY&#33;&#33; another 50 page thread on vid cards&nbsp; <_<

EDIT: id save up and get a 9800pro&nbsp; :D

EDIT 2: there
So you think hes just not allowed to post any more video card topics. Anyway, you made about 3 video card topics (all about the same things, may I add).



Being on topic. Somebody said above, save for a 9800PRO. If you can find one, they&#39;ll probably drop to the same price as the 9600XT soon.

If you have the money, go for 9600XT.
If not, get a PRO, and o/c if you really want to.

EDIT: I still use floppy drives, for when the network screws up and I need to get work from one PC to the other.

adamp2p
02-07-2004, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Keikan@7 February 2004 - 01:01
I&#39;m getting a floppy for "emergency" my pc is old, why do you think i&#39;m getting a new one? duh.
Ignore the troll, dude.

Actually it is important to have floppies, especially for BIOS flashes, etc.
Who cares they only cost &#036;5 or so...and come in handy.

You will be very happy with your new computer; congrats&#33; :)

Mad Cat
02-07-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by adamp2p+7 February 2004 - 09:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 7 February 2004 - 09:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@7 February 2004 - 01:01
I&#39;m getting a floppy for "emergency" my pc is old, why do you think i&#39;m getting a new one? duh.
Ignore the troll, dude.

Actually it is important to have floppies, especially for BIOS flashes, etc.
Who cares they only cost &#036;5 or so...and come in handy.

You will be very happy with your new computer; congrats&#33; :) [/b][/quote]
Amen.

Keikan
02-07-2004, 11:31 AM
Now time to wait for the income tax refund to come back :01: