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Soma Cruz
02-07-2004, 07:16 PM
Could I get an opinion here? I want to know what the best version of Linux is that has a bootloader option installed. Going to put it on my computer today. Also, a homepage where I can get the version would be appreciated, too. :D

DWk
02-07-2004, 07:23 PM
There is no best. It depends on your needs. For the newbie/regular user, Mandrake, Slackware, or RedHat would do just fine.

TheKiler
02-07-2004, 07:24 PM
How about one with a good clean interface. Similiar to windows?

shn
02-07-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by TheKiler@7 February 2004 - 13:24
How about one with a good clean interface. Similiar to windows?
Mandrake 9.2

LSA
02-07-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by TheKiler@7 February 2004 - 13:24
How about one with a good clean interface. Similiar to windows?
almost exact replica of xp's interface: http://www.xpde.com/

good luck

Soma Cruz
02-07-2004, 11:05 PM
Teacher suggested Fedora and Redhat, gonna try Redhat first. Does that XP thing work on any linux version? Turns out the damn links are down for the Redhat downloads. Guess I'll have to search around for another place to get it.

shn
02-07-2004, 11:14 PM
Try Fedora Core. Its not as good as Red Hat 9, but its really not a good idea too get to attached to red hat 9 right now as Fedora will eventually supercede that.

And try a mirror site. Their faster anyway.

http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html

LSA
02-07-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Soma Cruz@7 February 2004 - 17:05
Teacher suggested Fedora and Redhat, gonna try Redhat first. Does that XP thing work on any linux version? Turns out the damn links are down for the Redhat downloads. Guess I'll have to search around for another place to get it.
http://www.xpde.com/releases/xpde-0.4.0-20030730.tar.gz

edit: as far as i know it works on any linux distro

jasonmog
02-08-2004, 01:16 AM
Yeah Mandrake seems to be the best. But what do you guys think of Lindows?

shn
02-08-2004, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by jasonmog@7 February 2004 - 19:16
Yeah Mandrake seems to be the best. But what do you guys think of Lindows?
Lindows is crap and always will be crap until it comes up with it's own respectable name and stop using microsoft as a scapegoat. :)

ravendark
02-08-2004, 02:00 AM
In my opinion, Lindows trys to hard to be like windows. It hides so much from you that you might as well stick with windows to begin with. of course this was about 2-3 years ago that i tried it out.

my advice is to give Fedora Core 1 a try

go here (http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/) for the torrents to the iso's

or to linuxiso.org (http://www.linuxiso.org/) for standard methods of download

h1
02-08-2004, 02:04 AM
Different distros are little more the kernel, the shell, and features that make distros unique.

I could take Mandrake, and turn it into Gentoo if I felt like it. If you want full customizaiblity, build your own distro.

Lindows is crap and will always be crap until it comes up with it's own respectable name and stop using microsoft as a scapegoat.
You mean coattail- (or is it dick-) rider, right? :D

shn
02-08-2004, 02:11 AM
Different distros are little more the kernel, the shell, and features that make distros unique.

I could take Mandrake, and turn it into Gentoo if I felt like it. If you want full customizaiblity, build your own distro.

If everyone that used linux would just understand that, they would look at it with a whole different perspective.

You pretty much summed it up. You can take any distro of linux and make it your own.............its just that simple. :lol:

h1
02-08-2004, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by shn@7 February 2004 - 21:11
If everyone that used linux would just understand that, they would look at it with a whole different perspective.

You pretty much summed it up. You can take any distro of linux and make it your own.............its just that simple. :lol:
Man, I'm feeling holy.

Soma Cruz
02-08-2004, 05:15 AM
You're saying Fedora will be better than Redhat in the future?
Also, how does updating the OS work?

DWk
02-08-2004, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by Soma Cruz@7 February 2004 - 22:15
You're saying Fedora will be better than Redhat in the future?
Also, how does updating the OS work?
Fedora IS practically RedHat. They are discontinuing (or already did, can't tell for sure) RedHat, and Fedora is next in line :)

Soma Cruz
02-08-2004, 05:56 AM
Ah. Okay. I'm still a newby when it comes to computers, sorta. So what about updating Fedora? Is it like windows in that it has an auto update thing?

shn
02-08-2004, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Soma Cruz@7 February 2004 - 23:56
Ah. Okay. I'm still a newby when it comes to computers, sorta. So what about updating Fedora? Is it like windows in that it has an auto update thing?
You update via the Red Hat Network or rhn. :)

h1
02-08-2004, 06:23 AM
No idea. But what DWk, shn, and others mean is that Fedora will be the superset of RedHat -- sort of like C++ is a superset to C.

Soma Cruz
02-08-2004, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by shn@8 February 2004 - 01:19
You update via the Red Hat Network or rhn. :)
Sorta like a patch?

Xero Grid
02-08-2004, 10:09 AM
I had Red Hat 9 for a short while. Updating wasn't more difficult than updating Windows. When you log on, you should see Green icon, and I believe it turns red if updates are available. It'll mention updating. It's basically a wizard, just point and click. RPMs (Red Hat Packages) are real easy. :D

You just have to sign up for the free updates. All the info you need should be at the Red Hat Site (http://www.redhat.com/).

-- Xero Grid --

DWk
02-08-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by haxor41789@7 February 2004 - 23:23
No idea. But what DWk, shn, and others mean is that Fedora will be the superset of RedHat -- sort of like C++ is a superset to C.
Isn't the RedHat version gonna be paid for and the Fedora the free one?

shn
02-08-2004, 08:11 PM
If anybody here ends up installing Fedora, then you can't go wrong with this site.
They have all the Fedora tutorials you will need get your Fedora box running some great apps. http://fedoranews.org/

Btw, Fedora has a problem with rhn applet. You can correct it here
http://fedoranews.org/tchung/howto/2003-12...hn-applet.shtml (http://fedoranews.org/tchung/howto/2003-12-02-rhn-applet.shtml)

And also the red hat network can be really slow at times. You can change the servers it uses by editing a config file. I forget which one it is at the moment but with Red hat 9 and fedora I never really used rhn.

Yum can update your system a lot quicker :)

LSA
02-09-2004, 12:23 AM
i tried getting yum but something conflicts with atrpms and atrpms is needed by automake

so im going to try to update with rhn, but i need to know the port number so i can open it, i cant find it, i did a search

shn
02-09-2004, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by LSA@8 February 2004 - 18:23
i tried getting yum but something conflicts with atrpms and atrpms is needed by automake

so im going to try to update with rhn, but i need to know the port number so i can open it, i cant find it, i did a search
It has nothing to do with you.

It's a Red Hat problem, their ssl certs expired some time last year. Go here and install the latest up2date packages and your problems will be solved :)

https://rhn.redhat.com/help/latest-up2date.pxt

Mercy
02-09-2004, 05:01 AM
any one tried Konppix distribution ?
i heared u can run it from the cd :D
i got it but then i had to format the harddisk i will have to download it again :lol:

Xero Grid
02-09-2004, 08:20 AM
Check out this thread for Live Disks.
Run an OS from CD (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=98483)

I'm prepared to list every live disk in existance!!! :01:

Well, not really. :lol: :lol:

-- Xero Grid --

LSA
02-12-2004, 10:38 PM
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i tried getting yum but something conflicts with atrpms and atrpms is needed by automake

so im going to try to update with rhn, but i need to know the port number so i can open it, i cant find it, i did a search
It has nothing to do with you.

It&#39;s a Red Hat problem, their ssl certs expired some time last year. Go here and install the latest up2date packages and your problems will be solved :)

https://rhn.redhat.com/help/latest-up2date.pxt [/b][/quote]
thanks shn

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h1
02-12-2004, 10:56 PM
:clap: Happy birthday shn&#33; :beerchug: BTW, never knew you were female. :P