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muchspl2
03-11-2004, 01:01 AM
hitachi is coming out with a huge sata hdd.
Deskstar 7K400
400 GB (GB = 1 billion bytes, accessible capacity may be less)
757 Mb/s max. media data rate
8.5 ms average seek time
7,200 RPM, 4.17 ms average latency
ATA-100/Serial ATA 1.5 Gb/s
25.4 mm in height
61.7 billion bits per square inch maximum areal density
5 aluminum platters
10 GMR recording heads
225 G (2ms) non-operating shock
9.0 watt idle power (Parallel ATA)
9.6 watt idle power (Serial ATA)
3.1 Bels typical idle acoustics
Fluid Dynamic Bearing (FDB) spindle motor
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/g...112&newsLang=en (http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040310005112&newsLang=en)

lynx
03-11-2004, 02:30 AM
1. Sata currently offers 150MB/s, not 1.5GB/s.

2. Media transfer rate = 757Mb/s - that's Megabits per second = 95MB/s. So media rate is slower than interface rate. Average.

3. 3.1 Bels idle acoustics. I assume that means 31dB. That's noisy for idle. How loud it is active? Pass the ear protectors.

Ok, it's a big drive, but it's performance isn't all that stunning.

delphin460
03-11-2004, 03:19 AM
exactly, huge hd's take longer to read and write, so you have to partition them to a smaller size

much better getting smaller drives, with faster spin rates eg wd raptors at 10,000 rpm

there is no need for mass storage on hard drives today when dvd data burns will take 4.7 gig

go for speed and big buffers, rather than size

4th gen
03-11-2004, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by delphin460@11 March 2004 - 02:19
there is no need for mass storage on hard drives today when dvd data burns will take 4.7 gig
What about those of us who prefer not to use DVD-R(W) technology? It gets a little irritating having to go through a whole load of DVDs just to find that episode of the Simpsons you've been looking for.

toco004
03-11-2004, 03:49 AM
dell has a 500 gb HD.but you can only get it if your upgrading your
dell desktop <_<

muchspl2
03-11-2004, 03:55 AM
I&#39;m not aware of a 500gb dell HD link or info ?

tesco
03-11-2004, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by toco004@10 March 2004 - 22:49
dell has a 500 gb HD.but you can only get it if your upgrading your
dell desktop <_<
would you have to send in your computer to be upgraded by them or can you say its for a dell and they mail you it?

toco004
03-11-2004, 03:57 AM
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/con...&oc=D83SO&s=dhs (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V591&l=en&oc=D83SO&s=dhs)

check in hard drives

callum
03-11-2004, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by toco004@11 March 2004 - 02:57
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/con...&oc=D83SO&s=dhs (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V591&l=en&oc=D83SO&s=dhs)

check in hard drives
NEW 500GB RAID 0 (2 x 250GB SATA HDDs)

tesco
03-11-2004, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by toco004@10 March 2004 - 22:57
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/con...&oc=D83SO&s=dhs (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V591&l=en&oc=D83SO&s=dhs)

check in hard drives
thats not a 500gb hard drive, its two 250gb hard drives hooked u ion a raid config which means they act like one big hard drive but really its two drives.

toco004
03-11-2004, 04:14 AM
oooooo i did&#39;t see the (2 x 250GB SATA HDDs)http://www.cains-cottage.co.uk/smileys/play_ball.gif
i told my friend i was hoing to get a 300 gig hd
then hes all "have you seen the 500 gig hd from
dell".i was think WTF i never seen a 500 gig hd.
he acts like hes going to get a better computer then me
when he has a peace of :shit: computer right now.
i have the beast computer in school i think B)

muchspl2
03-11-2004, 04:16 AM
exactly thats why I posted this
not to sell it&#39;s speed or preference, just pointing out how technology is getting better and better
I remember when a 3.2GB HDD back in &#39;97 was the best out

tesco
03-11-2004, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by toco004@10 March 2004 - 23:14
oooooo i did&#39;t see the (2 x 250GB SATA HDDs)http://www.cains-cottage.co.uk/smileys/play_ball.gif
i told my friend i was hoing to get a 300 gig hd
then hes all "have you seen the 500 gig hd from
dell".i was think WTF i never seen a 500 gig hd.
he acts like hes going to get a better computer then me
when he has a peace of :shit: computer right now.
i have the beast computer in school i think B)
whats ur specs?

toco004
03-11-2004, 04:26 AM
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)

4th gen
03-11-2004, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by toco004@11 March 2004 - 03:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
That&#39;s the best PC in your school??
Where do you live?
Have you ever heard of technology?

:rolleyes:

toco004
03-11-2004, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by 4th gen+11 March 2004 - 04:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 11 March 2004 - 04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-toco004@11 March 2004 - 03:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
That&#39;s the best PC in your school??
Where do you live?
Have you ever heard of technology?

:rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
well ok i know. i know somebody has a better
PC then me but wait till i upgrade :P
i live in Cali,USA

muchspl2
03-11-2004, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by toco004@10 March 2004 - 23:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
http://www.fourthrindia.com/images/student.jpg

4th gen
03-11-2004, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by toco004@11 March 2004 - 03:31
well ok i know. i know somebody has a better
PC then me but wait till i upgrade :P
i live in Cali,USA
You must live pretty far into the ghetto :P

tesco
03-11-2004, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by toco004@10 March 2004 - 23:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
not too bad...

i hate how people at my school will be like my cpu is a 2800xp and stuff and they think there computers are so much betetr than mine but really they arent, imo, ill tell you why:

1) they dont organize files, dont defrag, dont have virus scanners, no firewall, loads of spyware, 1098908 programs running and the desktop will have like 12093 icons on it. this makes it incredibly slow and very insecure.

2) they usually have shit onboard video which is slow as hell and takes away from your RAM which makes the computer really slow when you play games and stuff.

3) theyre OEM so its got the recovery discs and crappy free software and they arent upgradeable too much. for example if u want a enw processor and motherboard youll need a new case usually and then a enw power supply and video card and you end up paying as much as getting a new computer anyway and youve got the old one sitting around doing nothing.


i really dont like computer half-illiterates.

4th gen
03-11-2004, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@11 March 2004 - 03:33
i hate how people at my school will be like my cpu is a 2800xp and stuff and they think there computers are so much betetr than mine but really they arent, imo, ill tell you why:

i really dont like computer half-illiterates.
I&#39;m just looking at your sig and wondering why you&#39;ve got SP2 on xp installed? :unsure:

toco004
03-11-2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2+11 March 2004 - 04:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 &#064; 11 March 2004 - 04:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-toco004@10 March 2004 - 23:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
http://www.fourthrindia.com/images/student.jpg [/b][/quote]
my friend is hendu to :lol:

@4th gen
no i live in newark cali i just say cali cause.....
............ i listen to rap :lol:

Edit: its not a pore town i just like to think im better then every1 in my town since im
rich :lol:

Mad Cat
03-11-2004, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by 4th gen+11 March 2004 - 04:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 11 March 2004 - 04:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@11 March 2004 - 03:33
i hate how people at my school will be like my cpu is a 2800xp and stuff and they think there computers are so much betetr than mine but really they arent, imo, ill tell you why:

i really dont like computer half-illiterates.
I&#39;m just looking at your sig and wondering why you&#39;ve got SP2 on xp installed? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
Theres a beta SP2 thats easily found all over the net... Old news.

tesco
03-11-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+10 March 2004 - 23:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 10 March 2004 - 23:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@11 March 2004 - 03:33
i hate how people at my school will be like my cpu is a 2800xp and stuff and they think there computers are so much betetr than mine but really they arent, imo, ill tell you why:

i really dont like computer half-illiterates.
I&#39;m just looking at your sig and wondering why you&#39;ve got SP2 on xp installed? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
its the beta...

since i signed up on betaplace.com(well whatever the new url is) and i was actually able to legally download it does anybody know if i will get like a reward or something in the mail, i read on another website that these guys got a little cheap radio from microsoft for being beta testers on some project which i cant remember.

gungrave
03-11-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by toco004@11 March 2004 - 04:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
nice lot of ram u got there ;)

Mad Cat
03-11-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by lynx@11 March 2004 - 02:30
2. Media transfer rate = 757Mb/s - that&#39;s Megabits per second = 95MB/s. So media rate is slower than interface rate. Average.
Excuse me? Find me a hard drive thats somewhere near 400 gigs that can keep a sustained 100MB/s + transfer rate.

j4y3m
03-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Whta does OEM mean? :"> :-"

j4y3m
03-11-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by stupidguy@11 March 2004 - 15:10
Whta does OEM mean? :">&nbsp; :-"
Your name suits you well. <_<


Question :-

What does OEM mean?

Answer :-

Original Equipment Manufacturer

OEM hardware almost never comes with manuals, disks, or other support information.
Since the OEM-packaged hardware is aimed at computer professionals, the manufacturer assumes that the system builder will download the latest drivers off the Web, and that the system builder will not need instructions.

OEM hardware usually comes packaged in an unpadded box or plastic bag.When it is shipped in bulk to the computer company or system builder, the manufacturer just sends it in a minimally padded bulk pack. When unpacked, each unit will usually be wrapped in plastic bags or shrinkwrap.

OEM hardware sometimes carries a different brand stamp.
As an example, Creative Labs sells Soundblaster-compatible cards to system builders under the "Vibra" brand name. These cards are very similar to their retail counterparts, except that they carry the "Vibra" name instead of the famous "Soundblaster" name.

OEM hardware is cheaper than retail.
That&#39;s the whole idea behind OEM packaging. By minimizing packaging and cutting various corners, manufacturers can pass the savings on to system builders and other computer companies. If a local computer store is offering equipment at a substantially lower cost than the local competition, they might be reselling OEM equipment.

If an expensive piece of Hardware fails and your dealer leaves you high and dry you may be completely unable to get any service or support &#33;&#33;&#33;
Remember that with OEM hardware you are usually completely dependent on the dealer for help and warranty service &#33;&#33;&#33;
If your dealer inspires such confidence OEM components may be a sensible choice for you &#33;&#33;&#33;

lynx
03-11-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Mad Cat+11 March 2004 - 13:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 11 March 2004 - 13:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lynx@11 March 2004 - 02:30
2. Media transfer rate = 757Mb/s - that&#39;s Megabits per second = 95MB/s. So media rate is slower than interface rate. Average.
Excuse me? Find me a hard drive thats somewhere near 400 gigs that can keep a sustained 100MB/s + transfer rate. [/b][/quote]
How about this? (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=59) I&#39;m sure the other manufacturers will be bringing out similar sized drives before too long.

I didn&#39;t say it was poor, or anything like that. But it isn&#39;t exactly stunning either, although admittedly you have to pay a lot for very high performance drives.

toco004
03-11-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by gungrave+11 March 2004 - 14:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gungrave @ 11 March 2004 - 14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-toco004@11 March 2004 - 04:26
1.70 celiron
1 gig ram
40 gig hd
im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
nice lot of ram u got there ;) [/b][/quote]
thanks

toco004
03-11-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by stupidguy+11 March 2004 - 16:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (stupidguy @ 11 March 2004 - 16:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-stupidguy@11 March 2004 - 15:10
Whta does OEM mean? :"> :-"
Your name suits you well. <_<


Question :-

What does OEM mean?

Answer :-

Original Equipment Manufacturer

OEM hardware almost never comes with manuals, disks, or other support information.
Since the OEM-packaged hardware is aimed at computer professionals, the manufacturer assumes that the system builder will download the latest drivers off the Web, and that the system builder will not need instructions.

OEM hardware usually comes packaged in an unpadded box or plastic bag.When it is shipped in bulk to the computer company or system builder, the manufacturer just sends it in a minimally padded bulk pack. When unpacked, each unit will usually be wrapped in plastic bags or shrinkwrap.

OEM hardware sometimes carries a different brand stamp.
As an example, Creative Labs sells Soundblaster-compatible cards to system builders under the "Vibra" brand name. These cards are very similar to their retail counterparts, except that they carry the "Vibra" name instead of the famous "Soundblaster" name.

OEM hardware is cheaper than retail.
That&#39;s the whole idea behind OEM packaging. By minimizing packaging and cutting various corners, manufacturers can pass the savings on to system builders and other computer companies. If a local computer store is offering equipment at a substantially lower cost than the local competition, they might be reselling OEM equipment.

If an expensive piece of Hardware fails and your dealer leaves you high and dry you may be completely unable to get any service or support &#33;&#33;&#33;
Remember that with OEM hardware you are usually completely dependent on the dealer for help and warranty service &#33;&#33;&#33;
If your dealer inspires such confidence OEM components may be a sensible choice for you &#33;&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol:

clocker
03-11-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by toco004@10 March 2004 - 20:26

im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
Aw.

Does she keep deflating?

Mad Cat
03-12-2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by lynx+11 March 2004 - 16:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 11 March 2004 - 16:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mad Cat@11 March 2004 - 13:31
<!--QuoteBegin-lynx@11 March 2004 - 02:30
2. Media transfer rate = 757Mb/s - that&#39;s Megabits per second = 95MB/s. So media rate is slower than interface rate. Average.
Excuse me? Find me a hard drive thats somewhere near 400 gigs that can keep a sustained 100MB/s + transfer rate.
How about this? (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=59) I&#39;m sure the other manufacturers will be bringing out similar sized drives before too long.

I didn&#39;t say it was poor, or anything like that. But it isn&#39;t exactly stunning either, although admittedly you have to pay a lot for very high performance drives. [/b][/quote]
I said sustain.

That will be its peak transfer rate, and you know these manufacturers. I haven&#39;t known any 7200 RPM hard drive that can, SATA or not.

4th gen
03-12-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Mad Cat@11 March 2004 - 09:15
Theres a beta SP2 thats easily found all over the net... Old news.
No, I meant why is he using a Beta service pack...especially one from M&#036; :lol:

silent VI
03-12-2004, 12:39 PM
:lol: umm how do i find out what my system specs are? :(

tesco
03-12-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 March 2004 - 07:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 March 2004 - 07:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Cat@11 March 2004 - 09:15
Theres a beta SP2 thats easily found all over the net... Old news.
No, I meant why is he using a Beta service pack...especially one from M&#036; :lol: [/b][/quote]
its working perfectly fine and i like to have all the latest software and drivers, whether they are beta or not. but if i find too many problems i just uninstall it.

...and i like the popup blocker.

toco004
03-13-2004, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by clocker+11 March 2004 - 22:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 11 March 2004 - 22:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-toco004@10 March 2004 - 20:26

im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
Aw.

Does she keep deflating? [/b][/quote]
WTF do you mean?

ApacNTS
03-13-2004, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by clocker+11 March 2004 - 22:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 11 March 2004 - 22:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-toco004@10 March 2004 - 20:26

im gonna upgrade later this year .i cant right now cause need
money for my GF :)
Aw.

Does she keep deflating? [/b][/quote]
ahahahaha :lol: :lol:

lynx
03-13-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Mad Cat+12 March 2004 - 09:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 12 March 2004 - 09:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by lynx@11 March 2004 - 16:38

Originally posted by Mad Cat@11 March 2004 - 13:31
<!--QuoteBegin-lynx@11 March 2004 - 02:30
2. Media transfer rate = 757Mb/s - that&#39;s Megabits per second = 95MB/s. So media rate is slower than interface rate. Average.
Excuse me? Find me a hard drive thats somewhere near 400 gigs that can keep a sustained 100MB/s + transfer rate.
How about this? (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=59) I&#39;m sure the other manufacturers will be bringing out similar sized drives before too long.

I didn&#39;t say it was poor, or anything like that. But it isn&#39;t exactly stunning either, although admittedly you have to pay a lot for very high performance drives.
I said sustain.

That will be its peak transfer rate, and you know these manufacturers. I haven&#39;t known any 7200 RPM hard drive that can, SATA or not. [/b][/quote]
Sorry, I thought you wanted to compare like with like. I didn&#39;t realise you wanted a sustained transfer rate to compare against a maximum transfer rate. Still, you know these manufacturers. ;)

Mad Cat
03-13-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by lynx+13 March 2004 - 14:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 13 March 2004 - 14:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mad Cat@12 March 2004 - 09:00

Originally posted by lynx@11 March 2004 - 16:38

Originally posted by Mad Cat@11 March 2004 - 13:31
<!--QuoteBegin-lynx@11 March 2004 - 02:30
2. Media transfer rate = 757Mb/s - that&#39;s Megabits per second = 95MB/s. So media rate is slower than interface rate. Average.
Excuse me? Find me a hard drive thats somewhere near 400 gigs that can keep a sustained 100MB/s + transfer rate.
How about this? (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=59) I&#39;m sure the other manufacturers will be bringing out similar sized drives before too long.

I didn&#39;t say it was poor, or anything like that. But it isn&#39;t exactly stunning either, although admittedly you have to pay a lot for very high performance drives.
I said sustain.

That will be its peak transfer rate, and you know these manufacturers. I haven&#39;t known any 7200 RPM hard drive that can, SATA or not.
Sorry, I thought you wanted to compare like with like. I didn&#39;t realise you wanted a sustained transfer rate to compare against a maximum transfer rate. Still, you know these manufacturers. ;) [/b][/quote]
What I meant by the manufacturers comment is that they may "distort" the truth a "little" bit :P

Theres no point in anything about 100 MB/s for an IDE hard drive really, or is this on SATA? Oh well I can&#39;t remember.

muchspl2
04-01-2004, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@11 March 2004 - 09:06
I&#39;m just looking at your sig and wondering why you&#39;ve got SP2 on xp installed? :unsure:
its the beta...

since i signed up on betaplace.com(well whatever the new url is) and i was actually able to legally download it does anybody know if i will get like a reward or something in the mail, i read on another website that these guys got a little cheap radio from microsoft for being beta testers on some project which i cant remember. [/quote]
poor choice if you ask me, had to look for this post &#092;cause I don;t know anyone who would want to install sp2

http://www.vnunet.com/News/1154004

Microsoft chairman and chief software architect Bill Gates has outlined Microsoft?s security strategy for the coming year in a letter to customers.


Security changes will be included in Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2).

Long term, systems such as caller ID-style technologies for email and behavioural monitoring of software will be introduced.

"Given human nature, evolving threat models and the increasing interconnectedness of computers, the number of security exploits will never reach zero. But we can dramatically blunt the impact of cybercriminals, and are dedicating a major portion of our research and development investments to security advances," Gates wrote in the letter.

SP2 will be released by June. It will strengthen the Windows firewall and turn it on by default, block unsolicited downloads from web sites. It will also include software to work with the new generation of processors, such as the AMD FX 53, which have some anti-virus capability built in. The full letter can be seen on http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/execmail/

I could be wrong, but that sounds like they&#39;re trying to police the interweb.

tesco
04-01-2004, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@1 April 2004 - 17:50

I&#39;m just looking at your sig and wondering why you&#39;ve got SP2 on xp installed? :unsure:
its the beta...

since i signed up on betaplace.com(well whatever the new url is) and i was actually able to legally download it does anybody know if i will get like a reward or something in the mail, i read on another website that these guys got a little cheap radio from microsoft for being beta testers on some project which i cant remember.
poor choice if you ask me, had to look for this post &#092;cause I don;t know anyone who would want to install sp2

http://www.vnunet.com/News/1154004

Microsoft chairman and chief software architect Bill Gates has outlined Microsoft?s security strategy for the coming year in a letter to customers.


Security changes will be included in Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2).

Long term, systems such as caller ID-style technologies for email and behavioural monitoring of software will be introduced.

"Given human nature, evolving threat models and the increasing interconnectedness of computers, the number of security exploits will never reach zero. But we can dramatically blunt the impact of cybercriminals, and are dedicating a major portion of our research and development investments to security advances," Gates wrote in the letter.

SP2 will be released by June. It will strengthen the Windows firewall and turn it on by default, block unsolicited downloads from web sites. It will also include software to work with the new generation of processors, such as the AMD FX 53, which have some anti-virus capability built in. The full letter can be seen on http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/execmail/

I could be wrong, but that sounds like they&#39;re trying to police the interweb. [/quote]
well ive been using it almost without any problems except that whenever any spyware comes onto the computer it would run extremely slow, and 2 days ago i was deleting the spyware with spysweeper when the program suddenly froze and i had to restart but after the restart it wouldnt start up anymore, not even in safe mode so i decided i would just format and not install anymore beta service packs...but other than that i have had no problems at all, and i&#39;ve been using SP2 since newyears eve...

muchspl2
04-01-2004, 11:07 PM
it would be wise to not install it ever again if you read between the lines thats just going to cause problems in the future with all the programs we like to "try" before we buy ;)

tesco
04-01-2004, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@1 April 2004 - 18:07
it would be wise to not install it ever again if you read between the lines thats just going to cause problems in the future with all the programs we like to "try" before we buy ;)
:lol: The only programs I have ever bought were a couple of games, i think the only ones were the sims, rollercoaster tycoon+all addons and diablo 1 and 2 plus all addons.

Everything else i have has been downloaded or copied from someone else... but anyway, yeah im not going to install it until it is finally released, because i like teh firewall. its got incoming and outgoing and you can choose to block certain programs, there are also ways to stop microsoft products rfom connecting to teh internet, although natively it let&#39;s them connect.

Amarjit
04-03-2004, 10:14 PM
I am mildly surprised by the fact that despite a HDD of this capacity, it spins at 7200rpm.

bigdawgfoxx
04-03-2004, 10:26 PM
Sounds like it will be cool...I remember when I would dream about upgrading my 566Mhz Celeron, 320MB PC100 ram, onboard graphics, 10GB HDD up to a 566Mhz Celeron, 320MB PC100 ram, onboard graphics *20*GB HDD.

I thought that would make it sooo awesome...now were talking about 400GB HDDs haha