People That Will Be Involved For Big Decissions

[jetje]

As for a few decissions in the past the team needed to decide, there was some rumble on the board (as for instance merging forums, the banning of popular people, making new forums etc.). I can imagine for big decissions it can be wise to consult a group of people that are long time members or good trustworthy participating people, so that it will not be just the teams decission but we know its a widely carried decission.
A few things need to be said atm. It's just an idea i got just now and i didn't talk about with the team, but i sure would like to poll opinions on it. So it may never come to this! (but i still like the idea). Whatever the "senators" will do it will only be an advising role, in the en the decissions always will ly with the team and the final one with the admins. It's merely just an idea to start some sort of democracy on the board!

It's an idea burn it or love it but again it's just a premature idea :lol:

[Yogi]

I voted yes.

But will i come in with my 44?? :lol:



Yogi

[Skweeky]

I kinda like the sound of that though I don't know it would stop the grumbling whenever a decision is taken. There will always be someone unhappy. Definitely worth a try though

[Illuminati]

I'm sorry to possibly taint the idea but this sounds a lot like the "Secret Society" of the ES5 forums - Something which those who have visited in the past two months will know my feelings about. Then again, this is told in advance whereas ES5 kept theirs secret for months so there is a degree of difference between the two :)

I admit that it is in theory a good idea to have a few people who the team trust the views of to give their opinions of matters here & there, but a problem might be that it could become elitist - If it doesn't, then a few people are likely to turn it into a matter of elitism :unsure:

In effect, I'm impartial to the idea. However, the words "will become too much hassle" spring into mind. :huh:

There's never been much wrong with the view of the community regulars saying their parts in the past anyway, and the mods so far are in effect the same as senators with increased powers :lol:

[Marius24]

I think we should, but if we do the posts from the lounge should not go towards your right be allowed in. Only posts from the other section because people just <s>post</s> spam in the lounge without doing anything elsewhere and get to be a sr member in about 2 days...

[Peerzy]

I think the &#39;chhosen&#39; memebers might get &#39;teh&#39; beaten when a discision is made that people dont want, insted of the mods. Like amercain football really, grab a blocked and aim for N zone&#33;

Ofcorse bruce willis sed that in die hard and iv neva even watched a amercain football match b4 in my life.

[Peerzy]

I think if it does go ahead in NO way should it be releated to post count... wouldnt want withcheese on there would you :lol:

It would need to be a group of respected, sensible elder memebrs if any at all.

[RGX]

I agree that it shouldnt be done on a pure post count basis. 5 stars does not a good member make ;)

Just people who take an intrest in the community would be great. :)

[Peerzy]

yeah i mean, subconsiously i have ideas on who those people are already, i know its wrong but i divid ppl into groups, uber spamers, mods, repectful etc etc. It wouldnt be to hard to takle a few guesses at the people im thinking about...

[ck-uk]

nah.I think theirs enough chiefs capable of runnin making good decisions.I think the usual way is good enough imo make a comment or a poll. :)

[Cheese]

It&#39;s already starting to sound a bit elitist, why change what already works quite well. There is no real need to divide the board in this way, stop trying to please everyone because this is just impossible.

[BigBoo]

whats the point.? evryonee should have their say. not just a select few

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by peerzyboy@25 March 2004 - 19:29
yeah i mean, subconsiously i have ideas on who those people are already, i know its wrong but i divid ppl into groups, uber spamers, mods, repectful etc etc. It wouldnt be to hard to takle a few guesses at the people im thinking about...
It&#39;d be interesting to see which people are marked in which group in terms of other people&#39;s opinions, as I believe a few people do this :)

I&#39;m probably filed either under &#39;spammer&#39; or &#39;arsehole&#39; :lol:

[hobbes]

I think the idea is well intentioned but I don&#39;t want this board to become a model UN, where we talk much and do nothing.

Assembling a fair, tolerant, and forgiving mod team is all that is needed. You won&#39;t be able to please all camps, but tough.

You guys should call the shots, but from time to time you may get some feedback from unhappy members. If such comments are legit, I&#39;m sure the Mods can act appropriately.

Like this anti-spam thing which has, for no apparent reason, descended upon me. Let me try again 10, 11....

[J'Pol]

I agree with the rabbit.

[bujub22]

no jus no&#33;

[BigBoo]

hahaha. you took it away from the spammers. already.


maybe when it comes to decissions or the board we could have open discussions or polls, no. sorry. thats just reddiculous :rolleyes:

[Busyman]

I voted no. Looks good on paper.


Why not just listen to the feedback already being given. It&#39;s not that hard.

[BigBoo]

i think the problemm here is the majority of us are stupid and dont have the right idea (theirs).

[bulio]

I said yes cause it would be pretty good for members who are good and active :D

[DanB]

I think making another &#39;elite&#39; member group would be wrong <_<

What is wrong with listening to the public opinon by threads etc? Making an elite group of senior members is just going to put even more people&#39;s noses out of joint

[CornerPocket]

I concur with the &#39;leave well enough alone&#39; side. Stay with what we got, and keep everyone informed/involved in what goes on with the board as much as possible, not just a selected few or group. Get input from all :gossip:

[Marius24]

its just a dissision of splitting the mature from the imature...

[TRshady]

Dont sound how it would help .. just course more division between members and people who make the rules and decisions. :( ... but if it goes ahead .. consider me. :P

[BigBoo]

Originally posted by Marius24@25 March 2004 - 21:02
its just a dissision of splitting the mature from the imature...
where do you put the j&#39;pols and the billy deans?

[thewizeard]

Jetje I don&#39;t think it&#39;s really necessary, as on the whole the team does a good job. Remember you can make some of the people happy some of the time...but not all of the people all of the time. (and besides it will probably take me, at the rate I am posting, at least another year to be eligible to become a senator... :lol:

[Adster]

Ill vote yes but it&#39;s got is advantages and disadvantages

[uschi999_3]

Originally posted by peerzyboy@25 March 2004 - 18:29
yeah i mean, subconsiously i have ideas on who those people are already, i know its wrong but i divid ppl into groups, uber spamers, mods, repectful etc etc. It wouldnt be to hard to takle a few guesses at the people im thinking about...
Totally agree with you, James.

That is an interesting thought - all dividing of people in different
groups may be like putting them in classes. That is sad.

[CoolMac]

though i am not a senior member and i doubt i would take part in this i completely agree that this board should have what is called a "wisemen&#39;s comitee" :)

[kAb]

Yeah, maybe our opinions would be considered then.

[Keikan]

Can I be in it?

[h1]

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/moderator.jpg

[I.am]

It might be a good idea. (Voted Yes)

Few responsible one&#39;s contributing in the decision making is better&#33;

This way people wont come after one person for something... :lol: and hopefully it might help for more wiser decisions.

-
I.am

[delphin460]

i doubt it would achieve anything at all, except just another big boys club

the fact that you would then spend more time in this club , and less time in the open boards would infact reduce the quality of the board as we would not have you opinions in our posts as much

im sure there are enough mods and admins here to make decisions about the boards future, and if it was a major decision then wouldnt a poll be the way

i mean what else is there to make decisions about, 99% of this board is about helping other board members ect isnt it ????????

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

Originally posted by delphin460@26 March 2004 - 01:27
99% of this board is about helping other board members
:huh: :blink: :huh:

[kAb]

Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN+25 March 2004 - 23:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FuNkY CaPrIcOrN @ 25 March 2004 - 23:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-delphin460@26 March 2004 - 01:27
99% of this board is about helping other board members
:huh: :blink: :huh: [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[RealitY]

Plain and simple, why not, more opinions, more ides, more thought, more productive, though I am not sure this will ever happen for obvious reasons...

[Nightwolf]

I thought we already had such a group of decision makers... called Moderators. I think if you threw more people into the mix it would just create more controversy and nothing would ever get done.

I do however like the idea of a &#39;Seniors&#39; group. I think if you&#39;ve been here for a long time and contirbute regularly, you should have special access to a private forum area. And it&#39;s not because I have any problem with any of the newbies, it&#39;s just that there are too many of them, and a lot of them come and go. Wouldn&#39;t it be nice to have a small, friendly forum like this whole board used to be? If nothing else, at least you&#39;d have a forum where people don&#39;t start the same old topics every other day.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by Nightwolf@25 March 2004 - 22:53
I do however like the idea of a &#39;Seniors&#39; group. I think if you&#39;ve been here for a long time and contirbute regularly, you should have special access to a private forum area. And it&#39;s not because I have any problem with any of the newbies, it&#39;s just that there are too many of them, and a lot of them come and go. Wouldn&#39;t it be nice to have a small, friendly forum like this whole board used to be? If nothing else, at least you&#39;d have a forum where people don&#39;t start the same old topics every other day.
Yuk, more diluted ideas, haven&#39;t we learned anything yet, we must be a community again, as one...

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by haxor41789@26 March 2004 - 07:15
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/moderator.jpg
Oh bloody hell - That&#39;s still circulating? :lol:

Stay tuned for the next one - "You ain&#39;t a mod so don&#39;t f***ing act like one" ;)

[Rappy]

Whatever the "senators" will do it will only be an advising role, in the en the decissions always will ly with the team and the final one with the admins. It&#39;s merely just an idea to start some sort of democracy on the board&#33;



As long as we can elect these people. :)

[BigBoo]

Originally posted by kAb@26 March 2004 - 01:53
Yeah, maybe our opinions would be considered then.
it also means auto dismissal of most members views ;)

[TRshady]

Wouldn&#39;t it be nice to have a small, friendly forum like this whole board used to be?

No.

After reading more posts and opinions, although voting No ... I wouldn&#39;t mind at this stage and perhaps it would be a good thing. :)

[Rappy]

Originally posted by TRshady@26 March 2004 - 17:55

Wouldn&#39;t it be nice to have a small, friendly forum like this whole board used to be?

No.

After reading more posts and opinions, although voting No ... I wouldn&#39;t mind at this stage and perhaps it would be a good thing. :)
You are the sort of person that got Bush elected&#33;&#33; :angry:

[TRshady]

and your the kinda person I sit trying to figure out what the hell they mean ... then give up, nod my head and smile before moving on. :P

Seriously though .... I think having more people working to bring ideas and make decisions .. it would be a better place. Then again .. why cant we all put opinions forward and say what we think to make changes .... :rolleyes:

I should just leave here and im kinda confused :(

[Rappy]

but who will be these people thats the problem :(

[TRshady]

They would all be elected ... not taking post count into consideration not popularity. Though you are right .. in that people would have similar feelins as the moderators getting chosen. No easy way around it .. but in the long run .. im sur it&#39;d help .....

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by REALITY+26 March 2004 - 02:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY &#064; 26 March 2004 - 02:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Nightwolf@25 March 2004 - 22:53
I do however like the idea of a &#39;Seniors&#39; group.&nbsp; I think if you&#39;ve been here for a long time and contirbute regularly, you should have special access to a private forum area.&nbsp; And it&#39;s not because I have any problem with any of the newbies, it&#39;s just that there are too many of them, and a lot of them come and go.&nbsp; Wouldn&#39;t it be nice to have a small, friendly forum like this whole board used to be?&nbsp; If nothing else, at least you&#39;d have a forum where people don&#39;t start the same old topics every other day.
Yuk, more diluted ideas, haven&#39;t we learned anything yet, we must be a community again, as one...[/b][/quote]
But there is no community here. Just thousands of people spouting off whatever comes into their minds. What would be so bad about having a smaller &#39;neighborhood&#39; where you could have a real conversation?

Some people are just worried about being &#39;left out&#39;. <_<

[RealitY]

WTF are you on and if you think there is no community then why have a private forum. As an example if someone in that private forum gave you a great idea in a post then it would stand to reason that nobody outside that private forum might benifit. Then perhaps many of us might migrate to this private forum leaving the other hallowed.

The whole reason I am here is because of the fact that this is a community, that has unfortuattly become slightly diluted due to many factors such as the demise of KL and so forth. If you want to become a little more private with the some of the long time members here then I suggest you join SoulSeek or FastTracker, their both in my sig...

[uNz[i]]

Originally posted by Nightwolf@26 March 2004 - 16:23
I thought we already had such a group of decision makers... called Moderators.&nbsp; I think if you threw more people into the mix it would just create more controversy and nothing would ever get done.
I couldn&#39;t agree more.

The bigger the commitee, the more folks argue and the less things get done.

[Rappy]

Originally posted by uNz[i]+26 March 2004 - 20:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (uNz[i] @ 26 March 2004 - 20:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nightwolf@26 March 2004 - 16:23
I thought we already had such a group of decision makers... called Moderators. I think if you threw more people into the mix it would just create more controversy and nothing would ever get done.
I couldn&#39;t agree more.

The bigger the commitee, the more folks argue and the less things get done. [/b][/quote]
And when something gets done less people will complain :lol:

[h1]

Originally posted by Illuminati+26 March 2004 - 04:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati @ 26 March 2004 - 04:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-haxor41789@26 March 2004 - 07:15
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/moderator.jpg
Oh bloody hell - That&#39;s still circulating? :lol:

Stay tuned for the next one - "You ain&#39;t a mod so don&#39;t f***ing act like one" ;) [/b][/quote]
:lol: That shit never gets old... :P

[bulio]

definately yes&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;