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silent VI
04-07-2004, 04:00 AM
games like splinter cell, cs, AAA,MGS, shooter's and stealth game in general, i mean if i really think about t ive been fraging since wolfenstien, 8 years in all i got my battle tatics down killa aim stealthy what do you guys think, i say conspiricy lead by us goverment to prepar and avrage civilion for war :o :blink:

Monkeee
04-07-2004, 04:31 AM
:blink: how about your crazy...................................... j/k i guess we just play so we can do what we cant do in real life....... :blink:

Twist3r
04-07-2004, 04:53 AM
i had to use my splintercell pandora tomarrow skills in real life, to sneek up on my friend and scare him to death!!!, my CS skills havnt goten used yet and hopefully wont :ph34r:

4th gen
04-07-2004, 04:56 AM
Firing a gun in real life is NOT like games at all. You can't just shoot someone in the head from 1000 yards with a pea shooter like you can in games.

silent VI
04-07-2004, 04:57 AM
:lol: i think im just stoned and paraniod i was playing AAA and i swear it's free n shit why? it's mad relistic and free....... to train gamerz :ph34r: to KILL

Mr. Elmo
04-07-2004, 05:18 AM
so shooting games are considered training to kill.....what u want developer to do? make games like sexy beach? :blink:

abu_has_the_power
04-07-2004, 05:22 AM
he's rite. we are being trained. but not for some conspiracy thing. we're being trained to become men. men that can stand up and live in the next generation.


that sounded pretty creappy. lol


he's rite. we're learning battle tactics, even though some of them are unrealistic. and in real life, it only takes 1 shot to kill someone, not multiple. i doubt any real gamer will be able to do what sam fisher does though. we'll all be too fat. sigh

3RA1N1AC
04-07-2004, 05:28 AM
yeah, sure, and all those Dance Dance Revolution games are a gov't conspiracy to make people jump around like retards.

Monkeee
04-07-2004, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@7 April 2004 - 05:28
yeah, sure, and all those Dance Dance Revolution games are a gov't conspiracy to make people jump around like retards.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

cpt_azad
04-07-2004, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Elmo@6 April 2004 - 21:18
so shooting games are considered training to kill.....what u want developer to do? make games like sexy beach? :blink:
whoa whoa whoa, there's nothing wrong with a little hey hey :lol:, as for the whole conspiracy thing, it don't work. i've fired guns b4, nothing like wat u'd expect in a game.

silent VI
04-07-2004, 06:39 AM
eg you take two in shape people give them a gun in a jungle 5 acers 1 both person's have never shot a real gun or been in a real combat situation but one of them is a hardcore gamer who has been playing relistic shooters and stealth games alll his life, lots of games try to simualte how a gun shoots sound's reloads ithe gamer is gonna own think about it id have a blast :lol:

i don't know about you guys but fraging has made me want to try a shootout in a real life situation :ph34r: BLOODLUST

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 07:26 AM
YMRA SU EHT NIOJ

:lol:

Mad Cat
04-07-2004, 08:39 AM
I was shooting air rifles before I got into games.

Prince of Darkness
04-07-2004, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by DrunkeNStylE@7 April 2004 - 14:00
games like splinter cell, cs, AAA,MGS, shooter's and stealth game in general, i mean if i really think about t ive been fraging since wolfenstien, 8 years in all i got my battle tatics down killa aim stealthy what do you guys think, i say conspiricy lead by us goverment to prepar and avrage civilion for war :o :blink:
Dude :ghostface:

I think your right B)

But yeah I like all of those games they are very nice :ph34r:

delphin460
04-07-2004, 10:38 AM
sorry but all i have to say is you must be a retard to even think that, lol give any of you toy solders that play your comp games a gun and you would all shit your selves and run away

one big difference, when you get fragged in real life you DIE

fred devliegher
04-07-2004, 11:39 AM
g you take two in shape people give them a gun in a jungle 5 acers 1 both person's have never shot a real gun or been in a real combat situation but one of them is a hardcore gamer who has been playing relistic shooters and stealth games alll his life, lots of games try to simualte how a gun shoots sound's reloads ithe gamer is gonna own think about it id have a blast

:huh:

The hardcore gamer will completely overestimate himself, fire all his rounds at anything that moves, desperately look for the "R" button on his gun, crash into trees while he tries to strafe, then wonder why his healthpack won't plug the 8" hole in his chest.

And FYI, guns are LOUD. Way louder then the peashooters in CS.

Playing games teaches you jack squat about combat situations. Hell, the closest I've come is a paintball match, and even that didn't remotely resemble any videogame. Apart from the swearing.

silent VI
04-07-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by fred devliegher@7 April 2004 - 11:39
The hardcore gamer will completely overestimate himself,
right he'd feel confident while the other person if scared half to death

RGX
04-07-2004, 12:37 PM
No, overestimate. As in think because he can fire a gun accuratly with a mouse he can fire it in real life too.

Heres a little piece of information. Guns recoil, if you fire an assualt rifle for any long period of time your shoulder hurts. They get hot, they smoke, and most of the time without proper training you are going to miss your target, or panic like fuck and just run. Real combat is nothing like games.

Oh yeah, and if you get shot once in real life, even in something you would consider non essential like a leg, its going to almost completly disable you and possibly kill you without immediate medical attention.

So no, i think games do fuck all for combat training. :lol:

aoyv73
04-07-2004, 01:22 PM
Tut Tut a gun is field artillery and such like in the uk forces god help you if you call your rifle a gun

fred devliegher
04-07-2004, 02:05 PM
Guns recoil, if you fire an assualt rifle for any long period of time your shoulder hurts.

The first time I fired a rifle in a videogame I killed a Russian guard. The first time I fired a rifle in real life it knocked a tooth straight out
:rolleyes:

So yeah, there's a difference.


and if you get shot once in real life, even in something you would consider non essential like a leg

I'd say my leg is pretty essential when I'm running from a gun-toting maniac...

3RA1N1AC
04-07-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by fred devliegher@7 April 2004 - 06:05

Guns recoil, if you fire an assualt rifle for any long period of time your shoulder hurts.

The first time I fired a rifle in videogame I killed a Russian guard. The first time I fired a rifle in real life it knocked a tooth straight out
:rolleyes:

So yeah, there's a difference.
what? you can't fire a real rifle while listening to mp3s and eating a slice of pizza? if they had to go to war, most gamers would be fucked! :o

fred devliegher
04-07-2004, 03:31 PM
what? you can't fire a real rifle while listening to mp3s and eating a slice of pizza?

Even worse : the trenches don't serve coke, and just try to find a Wireless Accesss Point in a minefield.

Come on, what dolt would think a hobby where you sit down all day could give you any sort of advantage in a real-world activity ? Sure, I can land a crippled 747 in a storm without instruments, as long as I can press F1 for help.

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by fred devliegher@7 April 2004 - 06:31

what? you can't fire a real rifle while listening to mp3s and eating a slice of pizza?

Even worse : the trenches don't serve coke, and just try to find a Wireless Accesss Point in a minefield.

Come on, what dolt would think a hobby where you sit down all day could give you any sort of advantage in a real-world activity ? Sure, I can land a crippled 747 in a storm without instruments, as long as I can press F1 for help.
I can land a 747 anyday.... :huh:

fred devliegher
04-07-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+7 April 2004 - 17:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 7 April 2004 - 17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fred devliegher@7 April 2004 - 06:31

what? you can&#39;t fire a real rifle while listening to mp3s and eating a slice of pizza?

Even worse : the trenches don&#39;t serve coke, and just try to find a Wireless Accesss Point in a minefield.

Come on, what dolt would think a hobby where you sit down all day could give you any sort of advantage in a real-world activity ? Sure, I can land a crippled 747 in a storm without instruments, as long as I can press F1 for help.
I can land a 747 anyday.... :huh: [/b][/quote]
<_<

There&#39;s always a pilot... damnit.

Let&#39;s see you tackle this one : I can blast my way through an army of killer nuclear droids any day, as long as I can press F1 for help.

Knowing my luck, the next post will be by a professional NASA "cleaner" :P

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 04:22 PM
lol dude ur funny :lol:

I did my flight training on the stupid M&#036; flight sim, it was pretty fun but i have to say it&#39;s no substitute for the real thing.

If I were to fly a real 747 i would prob crash :blink: but I know the basics of flying pretty well :lol:

fred devliegher
04-07-2004, 04:29 PM
You sound like a friend of mine (except he can probably fly a 747). The only thing he flies regularly are gliders and his dad&#39;s prop, but he says M&#036; pretty much nailed the technical details...

I&#39;d rather not take the test.

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by fred devliegher@7 April 2004 - 07:29
You sound like a friend of mine (except he can probably fly a 747). The only thing he flies regularly are gliders and his dad&#39;s prop, but he says M&#036; pretty much nailed the technical details...

I&#39;d rather not take the test.
wow then I am impressed with my virtual piloting skillz.... :lol:

ya I never bothered with the small planes, dunno why, but I loved flying the big jets, I can go anywhere I wanted to :lol:

ya I hope I can fly a real plane someday... :( but i&#39;d never pass the physicals...(20/20 vision)

fred devliegher
04-07-2004, 04:39 PM
ya I hope I can fly a real plane someday...&nbsp; but i&#39;d never pass the physicals...(20/20 vision)

His dad&#39;s got freakish glasses (even looks a bit like Gates :blink: ) and he&#39;s gets to fly - not the big &#39;uns, but he does fly.

Don&#39;t give up hope &#33;

3RA1N1AC
04-07-2004, 04:41 PM
anyone ever try that forklift simulator? it&#39;s just like the real thing&#33; :01:

http://www.drfoerst.de/e_n8g.htm

http://www.drfoerst.de/images/n8gf.jpg

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 04:48 PM
ROFLMAO :lol:

DWk
04-07-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by 4th gen@6 April 2004 - 21:56
Firing a gun in real life is NOT like games at all. You can&#39;t just shoot someone in the head from 1000 yards with a pea shooter like you can in games.
B) :lol: Says who&#33;? I got a l33tz0r hax0r for my d3agl3 :o

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by DWk+7 April 2004 - 07:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 7 April 2004 - 07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@6 April 2004 - 21:56
Firing a gun in real life is NOT like games at all. You can&#39;t just shoot someone in the head from 1000 yards with a pea shooter like you can in games.
B) :lol: Says who&#33;? I got a l33tz0r hax0r for my d3agl3 :o [/b][/quote]
ya with my mouse3 button i can..... :P :P :P

DWk
04-07-2004, 04:59 PM
Dude it rules... I even have fast reload and wallhacks :o

james_bond_rulez
04-07-2004, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by DWk@7 April 2004 - 07:59
Dude it rules... I even have fast reload and wallhacks :o
nobody uses wallhacks anymore, it&#39;s all ESP now :rolleyes:

extra sensory perception....i like that term :lol:

Bowen747x
04-07-2004, 08:10 PM
yes drunk, its a giant goverment run consperiacy :lookaround: :smoke:
and they are also sellin drugs 2 drug dealers 2 support their high livings

o shit, i guess that was a long time ago wen u were high :lol: wasnt payin attention myself

silent VI
04-07-2004, 11:10 PM
they are also sellin drugs 2 drug dealers 2 support their high livings


:huh: i thought i was to clean the minoritys out of americia same with aids too.


http://www.americasarmy.com/
crazy battel sim

aoyv73
04-07-2004, 11:21 PM
Games are just that games so lets just enjoy them try say Ut2004 pretty good weapans there or Doom the old BFG

bulio
04-07-2004, 11:25 PM
that question was in one of those mythbusters tv shows, and it was proved to be fake :rolleyes:

uNz[i]
04-07-2004, 11:32 PM
Wargames aren&#39;t just about firing off weapons...
Nobody&#39;s mentioned the strategic training that games can provide.

Planning a mission and out thinking your enemy is half the battle....

silent VI
04-08-2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by uNz[i]@7 April 2004 - 23:32
Wargames aren&#39;t just about firing off weapons...
Nobody&#39;s mentioned the strategic training that games can provide.

Planning a mission and out thinking your enemy is half the battle....
that&#39;s kinda what im getting at not games like unreal and doom

cpt_azad
04-08-2004, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@6 April 2004 - 23:26
YMRA SU EHT NIOJ

:lol:
LMFAO :lol:

silent VI
04-08-2004, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by cpt_azad+8 April 2004 - 02:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cpt_azad @ 8 April 2004 - 02:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@6 April 2004 - 23:26
YMRA SU EHT NIOJ

:lol:
LMFAO :lol: [/b][/quote]
yvaN.

Bowen747x
04-08-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by DrunkeNStylE@7 April 2004 - 19:10

they are also sellin drugs 2 drug dealers 2 support their high livings


:huh: i thought i was to clean the minoritys out of americia same with aids too.
how would sellin drugs 2 drug dealers clean out minoritys?
niether will aids. as it effects all people?

Yvan Eht Nioj&#33; lmao thats from the simpsons -
L.T.Smash: "subliminal, liminal and superliminal&#33;" lisa: "whats superliminal?" L.T. "watch... (goes 2 window) Hey u 2&#33; join the navy&#33;" hahaha