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rookiecrd1
04-15-2004, 11:54 PM
Hey all. Not that we really need it, but I am looking for ways to increase the # of visitors, and traffic to this site so that the activity can pick up a bit.

Please list your ideas for promoting, places to advertise, etc.
Also if you have a website feel free to link to us :-)


Thanks
Brian :-)

h1
04-16-2004, 12:00 AM
Don't take lessons from ES5.

muchspl2
04-16-2004, 12:03 AM
370 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes
235 guests, 127 members 8 anonymous members
whats with all the guest, from what I understood BOT removed the ability to see more than the index page unless you register
what is everyone looking at

bulio
04-16-2004, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2@16 April 2004 - 00:03
370 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes
235 guests, 127 members 8 anonymous members
whats with all the guest, from what I understood BOT removed the ability to see more than the index page unless you register
what is everyone looking at
I know, the main forum (here) has nothing in it <_<

Dunno, Maybe have a points program like ultimate jester suggested?

SeK612
04-16-2004, 12:44 AM
For the guests perhaps try only showing them the guest forum (and not the rest of the board - even if the can&#39;t post in it) or restrict access for guests completely and force users to log in when the view the forum.

kAb
04-16-2004, 12:51 AM
bring back the skins&#33;

muchspl2
04-16-2004, 12:51 AM
thats how I understood what was changed
I don&#39;t understand

pol
04-16-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2@16 April 2004 - 00:03
370 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes
235 guests, 127 members 8 anonymous members
whats with all the guest, from what I understood BOT removed the ability to see more than the index page unless you register
what is everyone looking at
those totals have always confused me :huh:

like you can look in the online list, and see a member&#39;s name who is viewing a topic from an hour ago or more when you look at the time :huh:

like this -

Guest Logging in... 16 April 2004 - 00:25

^40mins ago, so they have&#39;nt been &#39;active&#39; in the last 15mins, so maybe the &#39;guest&#39; in the totals are members coming and going, logging in and stuff, meaning they&#39;ll be in the guest and member totals, but that means the 15mins thing is wrong :huh:

oldjagman
04-16-2004, 01:36 AM
Given the average downloader is a cantankerous, inquisitive sod (at best and I speak for myself), go onto other filesharing sites and tell them how awful this one is&#33;

They&#39;ll be here in droves to check it out.

Also do as others do and only allow guest access at top level - show &#39;em what&#39;s being discussed but not the actual posts.

Natural curiosity will do the rest.

junkyardking
04-16-2004, 10:31 AM
Change the front page at http://filesharingtalk.com/ , get rid of the borders and open it up to more like http://www.slyck.com/index.php

It doesnt have to look like slyck and that would be blantent copying anyway, but it should have a more creative looking page more bolder colors with guides with alot more usage of the page, basiclly more welcoming than the current plain looking page....

thewizeard
04-16-2004, 01:13 PM
Homepage | KL FAQ - (Save as) | Avatars & Signatures | Post Count & Members&#39; Ranks | Smilie Generator
[ Other Sites | RandomImage.us | TotalPosters.com | THETrolls.com | GPTForum.com ] [your link here]

Maybe you could have a spot where members could place their link for a week...

rookiecrd1
04-16-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by nigel123@16 April 2004 - 13:13
Homepage | KL FAQ - (Save as) | Avatars & Signatures | Post Count & Members&#39; Ranks | Smilie Generator
[ Other Sites | RandomImage.us | TotalPosters.com | THETrolls.com | GPTForum.com ] [your link here]

Maybe you could have a spot where members could place their link for a week...
Are you suggesting charging a fee for this?

sharedholder
04-16-2004, 01:27 PM
Give to the people FREE PORN or a porn world. :lol: :lol: :lol: Or a database like the Sharereactor RIP.

thewizeard
04-16-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by rookiecrd1@16 April 2004 - 13:16

Are you suggesting charging a fee for this?
Not for members, but perhaps for commercial concerns...

rookiecrd1
04-16-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by sharedholder@16 April 2004 - 13:27
Give to the people FREE PORN or a porn world. :lol: :lol: :lol: Or a database like the Sharereactor RIP.
Already had a poll for that :-)

As for the link I may do that and charge a small fee per week to help cover forum costs. Does anyone have any rejections?

Cyril
04-16-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by rookiecrd1+17 April 2004 - 00:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rookiecrd1 @ 17 April 2004 - 00:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder@16 April 2004 - 13:27
Give to the people FREE PORN&nbsp; or a porn world.&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol: Or a database like the Sharereactor RIP.
Already had a poll for that :-)

As for the link I may do that and charge a small fee per week to help cover forum costs. Does anyone have any rejections? [/b][/quote]
Sorry, but I don&#39;t see how that will increase traffic here?

thewizeard
04-16-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Cyril
Sorry, but I don&#39;t see how that will increase traffic here?

Well it could if part of the deal is that the owner of the website, also places a link back to this website... :)

Cyril
04-16-2004, 03:05 PM
Thats okay if people want to see that persons website. Anyway, he can really do what he wants anyway seeing as it&#39;s ultimately his board to do with what he wants, and if he can make a couple of bucks out of it then why not.

SeK612
04-16-2004, 03:56 PM
To be fair he said to cover server costs. Whilst I don&#39;t know exact costs given the amount of users and bandwidth that they use I would guess it would be a large sum of money per month pay for the servers.

A database of links (ed2K etc) would be great but I doubt it will happen. Sharerector folder under pressure and this site, if it did something different, would come under similar pressure and be forced to stop.

RealitY
04-16-2004, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by oldjagman@15 April 2004 - 17:36
Also do as others do and only allow guest access at top level - show &#39;em what&#39;s being discussed but not the actual posts.

Natural curiosity will do the rest.
Agreed, let them see the pinned topics and tutorials but don&#39;t allow them to read them...

rookiecrd1
04-16-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by REALITY+16 April 2004 - 17:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 16 April 2004 - 17:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-oldjagman@15 April 2004 - 17:36
Also do as others do and only allow guest access at top level - show &#39;em what&#39;s being discussed but not the actual posts.

Natural curiosity will do the rest.
Agreed, let them see the pinned topics and tutorials but don&#39;t allow them to read them... [/b][/quote]
Guests can only view the folder titles, nothing else

pol
04-16-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by rookiecrd1+16 April 2004 - 13:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rookiecrd1 &#064; 16 April 2004 - 13:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder@16 April 2004 - 13:27
Give to the people FREE PORN&nbsp; or a porn world.&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol: Or a database like the Sharereactor RIP.
Already had a poll for that :-)

As for the link I may do that and charge a small fee per week to help cover forum costs. Does anyone have any rejections?[/b][/quote]
charging members/visitors/*friends* for ad space or links would only attract spammers and scammers imo, especially if it was a weekly thing. even netweiser managed to con his way into getting a link, and if it&#39;s set up like this his link would have been ok if he&#39;d paid

increasing traffic/members, getting rid of the scam ads would help. new people who come with even &#39;a little&#39; knowledge of things see them for what they are and they must be put off by it, i would be if i didnt already know the place. plus existing members dont want to see them either. it&#39;s not what this place is or should be about, and however you look at it, it gives the board a bad reputation

i realise there are costs, but there must be better alternatives like a permanent bride.ru or whatever, i&#39;m sure those would generate more clicks/views than the present one&#39;s. there were even things like &#39;bunny poker&#39; and &#39;tupperware&#39; in the past - people dont mind clicking these if they know they&#39;re helping. i&#39;ve never clicked any of these new ones and i&#39;d be surprised if any regulars have either

as a mod, we&#39;re supposed to stick to the rules and remove any links/posts that are seen as spam. it&#39;s becoming a joke and i think we lose all credibility with some members, if someone was to come and post links to what these ad&#39;s are for, they&#39;d be put in the trash as soon as they were seen.

Snee
04-16-2004, 06:29 PM
i clicked on the get paid link right when i got back here, pretty shitty that.

EDit: Thought it was something that had to do with this forum

muchspl2
04-16-2004, 06:29 PM
yea should look into partypoker or pokerroom.com
they have got some kind of banner support, we need some ligament ads, like for gambling :lol:
maybe you could auction off adspace (a banner) weekly/monthly on ebay
I&#39;m sure this site gets plenty of hits

rookiecrd1
04-16-2004, 09:57 PM
As for the Bride.ru banner. That barely earns me anything, and right now I am worried they are a scam after reading about them on some sites and due to the fact that they have still not honered a withdrawl request after over a week.

I need to recover the costs somehow.

I personally don&#39;t see what is wrong with selling a text link or two in the Other Sites section. Its not like tis ruining the forum, and they are so small they shouldn&#39;t really bother most people.

Brian

thewizeard
04-16-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by rookiecrd1@16 April 2004 - 21:57


I need to recover the costs somehow.

I personally don&#39;t see what is wrong with selling a text link or two in the Other Sites section. Its not like tis ruining the forum, and they are so small they shouldn&#39;t really bother most people.

Brian
I agree, times change and with them their demands; if we want to keep this board going, certain &#39;sacrifices&#39; will just have to be made.

...The sun goes up for nothing, but (nearly) all the rest costs money, sad but true.

pol
04-16-2004, 10:59 PM
As for the Bride.ru banner. That barely earns me anything, and right now I am worried they are a scam after reading about them on some sites and due to the fact that they have still not honered a withdrawl request after over a week.

I need to recover the costs somehow.

well bride.ru is just one example, other&#39;s have been posted in this thread and the other one further down the page

you&#39;re worried that bride.ru might be a scam, well the rest definitely are, people do fall for them and thats the reason they exist. having them here is as good as saying we have no problem with it


I personally don&#39;t see what is wrong with selling a text link or two in the Other Sites section. Its not like tis ruining the forum, and they are so small they shouldn&#39;t really bother most people.


main point of my post was concerning the banner ad&#39;s and not the links. my concern with those isn&#39;t that they&#39;re obtrusive or distracting, but that they could attract more spam/scams and then it becomes a problem for us knowing which links to remove from posts. some links would be fine, others not and it&#39;s knowing where to draw the line, like with netweiser&#39;s link - not your fault as you were&#39;nt around back then but it shows how it can happen

the topic question was how to increase traffic, i think if something else could be done about these ad&#39;s then it could only help. what newcomer will take the place seriously if we promote scam p2p apps ?

as i type this i&#39;m looking at this -
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/scam.gif

i think we should sort out the problems we have first before anything else

rookiecrd1
04-16-2004, 11:13 PM
I don&#39;t understand how the banner ads have anything to do with moderating. What do the links in the banner ads have to do with links in posts. The rules never changed.

As for the google ads, I need something there until i can find an alternate source of income to pay part of the server fees. When I say Bride.ru is a scam I meant Not honoring my withdrawl affiliate requests.

Does anyone know of any good affiliate programs that may help.

Pay per click is the best way, as most people here probably don&#39;t even have a CC to buy anything with.

As for the google ads, how are they scams? You mean the sites that advertise are scams, or do you just call them that since they charge for filesharing?

Brian

pol
04-16-2004, 11:37 PM
I don&#39;t understand how the banner ads have anything to do with moderating. What do the links in the banner ads have to do with links in posts. The rules never changed.


main point of my post was concerning the banner ad&#39;s and not the links. my concern with those isn&#39;t that they&#39;re obtrusive or distracting, but that they could attract more spam/scams and then it becomes a problem for us knowing which links to remove from posts. some links would be fine, others not and it&#39;s knowing where to draw the line, like with netweiser&#39;s link - not your fault as you were&#39;nt around back then but it shows how it can happen

apologies for the confusion - my bad grammar i guess, when i said "my concern with those...." i meant the links, not the banners..


As for the google ads, how are they scams? You mean the sites that advertise are scams, or do you just call them that since they charge for filesharing?
yup


i dont personally know of other ways to help with the costs apart from those that have been mentioned, and they seemed to work fine before, without having rip-off ad&#39;s

rookiecrd1
04-16-2004, 11:50 PM
No Problem pol.

Well what worked before for Marc was Bride.ru, but I don&#39;t want to rely on them if they won&#39;t honor my withdrawl requests.

When you say Scam? How are they scamming? Simply by charging a fee for filesharing? Is that what you consider a sscam, or are they scamming in another way?

Brian

GHOST 1337
04-16-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by rookiecrd1@16 April 2004 - 23:50
How are they scamming? Simply by charging a fee for filesharing? Is that what you consider a scam
;) duh :frusty: :frusty:

pol
04-17-2004, 12:01 AM
No Problem Jpol.

:huh: :blink:


When you say Scam? How are they scamming? Simply by charging a fee for filesharing? Is that what you consider a sscam, or are they scamming in another way?

when i say scamming, i mean people sitting on their asses doing nothing about the development of apps or anything else, the only effort they put in is setting up bogus sites and laying out bullshit ad&#39;s and quite happily taking cash for it claiming that its legal because some poor mug has paid for it

SeK612
04-17-2004, 12:57 AM
They are scam site as they are abusing the work of others and making people pay for a free items (such as the K++ program that many people on this forum spent alot of time creating). Such sites use tactics like mass emailing to get people to come to their site many of who end up on this forum wondering why they paid in the first place.

I&#39;m sure you wouldn&#39;t like it if sites did something like asked people to pay to become a member of this forum and making a profit from your work and investment without acknowledging or crediting you :rolleyes:

Edit: In fact see http://www.filesharingguide.com/ - a site which is the original front page of this site. Near the bottom it states "never pay for a filesharing program" :)

jetje
04-17-2004, 01:40 AM
it&#39;s really very simple...

* make it possible that guest can post in the guest room and that members can reply there... it&#39;s a good recruiting area
* allow bittorrent links and e-donkey links and stuff like that.
or even better start our own bittorrent tracker over here... ;)

we have a gazillion visitors in no time....

bujub22
04-17-2004, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by rookiecrd1@15 April 2004 - 19:54
Hey all. Not that we really need it, but I am looking for ways to increase the # of visitors, and traffic to this site so that the activity can pick up a bit.

Please list your ideas for promoting, places to advertise, etc.
Also if you have a website feel free to link to us :-)


Thanks
Brian :-)
fluk your anti spam script&#33; :angry:
should&#39;nt have put it there if u did&#39;nt know how to remove it&#33; :angry:
been hell ever since installed

digmen1
04-17-2004, 03:24 AM
Get rid of the members pictures &#33;

I use UtterAccess and PaintShop Pro&#39;s boards and they are far faster than this one.

I find the members on here very rude sometimes, but also very knowlegdable.

I am on 56K and somethings I think now is it worth half an hour to go on to LK to read just a couple of threads and post some replies ?

PSP&#39;s site has no pictures and it is very fast to me.

Regards

Digby

GHOST 1337
04-17-2004, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by digmen1@17 April 2004 - 03:24
Get rid of the members pictures &#33;

I use UtterAccess and PaintShop Pro&#39;s boards and they are far faster than this one.

I find the members on here very rude sometimes, but also very knowlegdable.

I am on 56K and somethings I think now is it worth half an hour to go on to LK to read just a couple of threads and post some replies ?

PSP&#39;s site has no pictures and it is very fast to me.

Regards

Digby
ok i was on your side until that...thats just bull sh*t. disable images because of some whiny 56k users???? i think not <_< ;) :lol:

thewizeard
04-17-2004, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by bujub22+17 April 2004 - 02:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bujub22 @ 17 April 2004 - 02:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-rookiecrd1@15 April 2004 - 19:54
Hey all.&nbsp; Not that we really need it, but I am looking for ways to increase the # of visitors, and traffic to this site so that the activity can pick up a bit.

Please list your ideas for promoting, places to advertise, etc.
Also if you have a website feel free to link to us :-)


Thanks
Brian :-)
fluk your anti spam script&#33; :angry:
should&#39;nt have put it there if u did&#39;nt know how to remove it&#33; :angry:
been hell ever since installed [/b][/quote]
Well it did one good thing; it got you out of the lounge. :lol: If you had read some of the posts here recently, you would have seen that the anti-spam script was added by 7thE. He is apparently visting the states and when he returns is planning to remove it. So untill then we are stuck with it... :)

RealitY
04-17-2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by digmen1+16 April 2004 - 19:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (digmen1 &#064; 16 April 2004 - 19:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Get rid of the members pictures &#33;

I am on 56K and somethings I think now is it worth half an hour to go on to LK to read just a couple of threads and post some replies ? [/b]
GTFO and if you dont perhaps you can go into your Control Panel Settings...

Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images? Yes No
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics? Yes No
:huh: :huh:

<!--QuoteBegin-jetje
make it possible that guest can post in the guest room and that members can reply there... it&#39;s a good recruiting area[/quote]
Agreed, thats how it used to be and it worked very well.

Also this is a BIG FKIN JOKE and makes us look like amatures. Many of us have spent alot of time on this board trying to help others as a community should, and this makes us look like a buch of RIPOFF artist. If you are going to allow these ads then maybe you should just sell KL++ right from this site and cut out the middle man. These are the same SCUM that scammed the original admins here and have scammed into their previously used URL&#39;s, this ain&#39;t rocket science, it&#39;s FKIN EMBARRASSING, get rid of this SHIT, anything is better than this FFS. You were so quickly willing to take down the PayPal logo but yet you continue to hang on to this FKIN SHIT
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/scam.gif

Enough Already.

[B][O][T]
04-17-2004, 07:13 AM
Cheers REALITY I was on My way to post that :)

BOT

Afronaut
04-17-2004, 09:11 AM
Basically, if ppl could go a little bit easier on new folks
would probably help them stay too, or post.
Little more http://filesharingtalk.com/style_images/1/icon12.gif anyone?

Maybe its just me or does it seems that if we have a some sort of problem we get a lot of
hostile posting? Not too many ppl are willing to discuss teh problem with a civil manners,
too busy looking kool with flaming... a script, anyone?
;)

New folks look at how things goes about and desices not to post in the fear of been flamed. Unfortunately i cannot back this theory up with paperwork or statistical numbers. Tought it was worth to mention.

I agree teh scam adds should be removed, makes teh board look very bad supporting scams.
If the Bride banner wasn&#39;t good enuff, we need to find something similar.

If Guest and Members could post in the Guest area, that could get some new folks here,
or it could scare ppl too, lol, (probably not as much teh Lounge though)
Might be a good idea to try it, maybe it works in a good way.

Having pr0n here would attract the sickos in here too, im against that stuff,
there&#39;s enuff pr0n on the net.

:)

bigboab
04-17-2004, 09:23 AM
I have only come into this thread to say what I think before, what looks like my final departure..


ANTI-SPAM: I was one of the first ones to complain about this feature, mainly because that it appeared to be hitting me more than most. I was ignored. Nothing new there. I left the forum for a few days and was informed that there had been an improvement. I came back and for a couple of weeks it appeared that there was. Then it hit me harder than ever. I complained again. Jetje was the only one that was replying to my complaints. I have since left and have no intention of coming back until this feature has been removed.

The thing that is hurting me most is that a couple of my so called friends are now questioning my integrity on this matter. I do not lie. I also found it interesting that one of the advertisers at the top of the forum page advertises anti spam software. Is it rocket science for Marc to change the script from America. I think not.

THE FORUM: This is another thing I complained about a while back about the disappearance of so many good members. Also the decline in the number of posts. Now it appears as if it is being noticed.

I dont like the implications, in my opinion, of charges in any way whatsoever. Please remember that the files on this site belong to the members. They can withdraw these files at a moments notice and you will be left with a big fat zero.
There are far too many forums and admin/mods who think that their position allows them to ignore the wishes of the members. It has been happening on this forum, and if it continues it will result in catastrophe.

The decline in the forum this year alone must be about 30% or more in post counts. Find out the reason why before you lose any more by catering or bowing to non members.

I may have gone out on the wrong tack here if so I apologise. But it has given me a chance to air my views on some of the things I think are wrong. Then I have achieved something

Please dont let me be saying goodbye for good.


Bob

shn
04-17-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Guitar&#045;Slinger@17 April 2004 - 03:11
Basically, if ppl could go a little bit easier on new folks
would probably help them stay too, or post.
Little more http://filesharingtalk.com/style_images/1/icon12.gif anyone?

Maybe its just me or does it seems that if we have a some sort of problem we get a lot of
hostile posting? Not too many ppl are willing to discuss teh problem with a civil manners,
too busy looking kool with flaming...&nbsp; a script, anyone?&nbsp;
;)

New folks look at how things goes about and desices not to post in the fear of been flamed.&nbsp; Unfortunately i cannot back this theory up with paperwork or statistical numbers.&nbsp; Tought it was worth to mention.

I agree teh scam adds should be removed, makes teh board look very bad supporting scams.
If the Bride banner wasn&#39;t good enuff, we need to find something similar.

If&nbsp; Guest and Members could post in the Guest area, that could get some new folks here,
or it could scare ppl too, lol, (probably not as much teh Lounge though)
Might be a good idea to try it, maybe it works in a good way.

Having pr0n here would attract the sickos in here too, im against that stuff,
there&#39;s enuff pr0n on the net.

:)
That might make sense if only the new people were really new.

Half the so-called new people are old members with different accounts. You probably got a few "new" accounts yourself, one will never know.

And being a soft ass does not help because then n00bs only get worse. You think it&#39;s a game? Go in an irc chatroom and ask some of the stupid questions that I hear in this forum and I bet you that it can be over 100 people in that channel and no one will answer. Simply because........people should know better.

I&#39;m sure you are used to babysitting and enforcing because your job is a mod. But some people do not care to.

:)

digmen1
04-17-2004, 10:20 AM
Thanks Reality.

I have turned off pictures in My Control Panel (after I found it&#33;)

It seems to be faster, I&#39;ll let you know.

These things are all kind of hidden away. Eg I could not find a list of my posts till I asked and someone said it was from your Avatar / members posts.

Thanks

Digby
NZ

PS I&#39;d be more concerend about the lack of damned songs on KL lately.

Why can&#39;t we get the number of K/L users above the 2.5 to 3.5 million ?

So many members seem to be saying they use other progs, surely the whole key to a good file sharing prgram is the number of users and the number of good files.

KL has 2/3 million, Blubster has only 250,000 on line. So how can that be any good ? WinMX does not say how many are on line.

Afronaut
04-17-2004, 12:12 PM
Well, what can i say, Im not here 24/7, i will miss some important topics sometimes.
Sometimes im not here for days, and end up catching up on the issues for a long
time when i log on.
Im not the best character for Mod probably, surely many are questioning why teh hell that
dude is a Mod.
However, i dont try to ignore topics here just because they are hot or whatnot.
I do what i can for free hoping im somewhat usefull.
I didnt ask for this job, I got recommended, supported and asked to moderate teh MusicWorld,
(probably because of my knowhow on some music stuff) accepted the "Job" and here i am. There&#39;s been chances on the forum, things move on and
later I found myself promoted to a Wholeboard Moderator, not really a pleasant job
sometimes, i must admit,
I wish i only had to move some topics and answer some questions
and that this job would be an easy task but it is not.
:)

I dont know if 7th. has read his mail yet and knows that we here want his script removed. Im just trying to be positive about it
and hopefully we get to fix the problem eventually.
About the Ignorance, I dont believe that it is so hardly supported by Mods
as bigboab is saying, i would say you are generalizing a little bit with the "nothin new there" comment.
Im not here to Ignore you bigboab or anyone else.

That generalizing happens in the board too,
lets say (im not talking about the script issue now) there is something about
5 members in here wants to see to happen, i get to see ppl posting in behalf of
all members, which is quite misleading, just because few ppl wants something, does
not make it so that it is everybody&#39;s opinion. If that seems to be the case (for me)
i choose to wait and see where the thread is going, I think its best to see
more opinions about the matter before taking action. Sometimes it is needed to
do some research to undestand the issue, to see the picture as a whole,
that can take some time, reading all posts regarding to the subject at hand
before coming to an opinion/action.

Yesterday, Adster (and some other folks) had a problem with IE not loading the page (probably still has)
It looked like everything is mufucto at some point but in the end, Adster got the issue
somewhat solved. I understand the Script is annoyance, just like the Adsters IE-issue but at the this point the Problem-Script still here and it will be removed later on,
when exactly it will be removed i dont know.

Btw bigboab, have you given the Firefox browser a go? Try it out, that could
help on your script issue, im not sure tho.

Things dont always work as fast someone would want to, but then again,
this is not IRC, no real-time action-counteraction.
There aint too many IRC rooms i like or hang on to. Im sure there is cool chatrooms out there,
but im so use to SS and doing my IRC-type-of-chatting over there.
I use to check the IRC-room that was linked from this board, there was not too much
to look at for me. But thats just me. I support nice convos & ppl been nice to each other,
I dont see anything wrong with that,
Atleast, i&#39;d rather be a SoftAss at the start of the convos, i mean, if a new guy asks
"what is ISO file?" i wouldnt shout stfu, rtfm, fuck you, type of things because you never
know how "noob" the new ppl are.
I have yet to see a post where a new guy asks a question and it will be totally ignored here,
maybe in IRC ppl likes to ignore new folks etc but as i seen it here, new folks get
their answers eventually, good or bad ones.

I got 2 accounts here, the other is for my second PC but i dont use that account much at all. My other account is wlotirjs (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showuser=110619) with 0 posts.
I made it just in case if get trouble login here with GS account.
I agree that some ppl has lot of accounts, maybe even too many,
but thats not said to be a bad thing yet, not many complains about it and i dont
have a problem with it as long as them accounts are made in good spirit so to speak,
if its for to damage the board, rules, or attack our members, then i have a problem with it.

Members are responsible a lot of how things goes about in here,
(For example: the spam-script was added as a result when a member posted a script here
to avoid such automatic spam.)
With their posting members create the atmosphere of the board, is it Hostile or Friendly is
up to individuals to say. I support the more friendly attitude, that should be pretty clear by now.
:)

Mod/Admins do what we can on the problems, it is extremely hard to try to
please all members at the same time.
There is always some issues that could have been done
with better outcome, or faster, but as Mods/Admins are only humans, we do errors just like any other ppl.

bigboab, please dont lose all the hope on the board just yet, I would hate to see you leave,
i also hope we get rid of the script problem ASAP.

:cool2:

Afronaut
04-17-2004, 12:21 PM
@digmen1, its about experience.
In my experience, i found SoulSeek (max 100k users online) to be perfect
for my needs on the music. I get full albums in good enough quality for me to use.
Torrents are faster way to get bigger files, movies, games etc. as it has multisources,
meaning on can dol form many opposed to SoulSeek where one has only source.
I recommend you try some other apps and find the ones that work for You.
Holding onto one p2p-app can be frustrating sometimes, to find a specific file
can be more efficient on other app. you never know before you try.
Here in the board we got pretty good guides how to start Your experimenting.

:cool2:

wienerschnitzel
04-17-2004, 12:44 PM
I got an idea

lets make a "guest guide forum"

it will be kind of like a porn site guest area (except without the porn (or maybe that would attract people...?))

we give them the first few paragraphs of a guide then at the bottom tell them to sign up if they want to see the whole guide

we could also have sample posts and stuff


note: please help me think of a better name then "guest guide forum"


edit: this sounds dumb doesn&#39;t it? It seems good/funny when i wrote it but now i don&#39;t know. maybe this idea will lead to some better ones

muchspl2
04-17-2004, 12:48 PM
IDK
but I think its fine the way it is, guest area would be ok, maybe have rules set up where you can&#39;t flame noob&#39;s in there
automatic 1 day moderation or something for doing so
maybe increas it if done again

bujub22
04-17-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by nigel123@17 April 2004 - 02:19
7thE. He is apparently visting the states and when he returns is planning to remove it. So untill then we are stuck with it... :)
where?? so he can come to my house an fix it :angry:

thewizeard
04-17-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by bigboab+17 April 2004 - 09:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigboab &#064; 17 April 2004 - 09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I have only come into this thread to say what I think before, what looks like my final departure..[/b]

Really, bigboab, you can&#39;t keep leaving.

You must have read that 7thE is going to remove the script , when he returns... So please, have patience?

<!--QuoteBegin-bigboab@17 April 2004 - 09:23
Please dont let me be saying goodbye for good.


Bob[/quote]

As far as your last sentence is concerned, only you can decide that. I would not consider an anti-spam script, reason for an adult to be making such an emotional plea.

rookiecrd1
04-17-2004, 03:39 PM
Bob, I think you need to read some of the recent posts. If you do, you&#39;d see that 7th is no longer the main admin here. I am. I feel that I have not ignored anyones concerns about anything. I have done everything feasible to satisfy members concerns. As with the antispam thing, 7th is the only one who knows how to delete it and when he gets back and has a minute he promised me he&#39;d do so.

I will try to allow members to post in the guest folder right now.

Please I am trying to satisfy everyones needs, but I can&#39;t satify everyone as there are thousands of members with thousands of ideas.

Brian



ANTI-SPAM: I was one of the first ones to complain about this feature, mainly because that it appeared to be hitting me more than most. I was ignored. Nothing new there. I left the forum for a few days and was informed that there had been an improvement. I came back and for a couple of weeks it appeared that there was. Then it hit me harder than ever. I complained again. Jetje was the only one that was replying to my complaints. I have since left and have no intention of coming back until this feature has been removed.

The thing that is hurting me most is that a couple of my so called friends are now questioning my integrity on this matter. I do not lie. I also found it interesting that one of the advertisers at the top of the forum page advertises anti spam software. Is it rocket science for Marc to change the script from America. I think not.

THE FORUM: This is another thing I complained about a while back about the disappearance of so many good members. Also the decline in the number of posts. Now it appears as if it is being noticed.

I dont like the implications, in my opinion, of charges in any way whatsoever. Please remember that the files on this site belong to the members. They can withdraw these files at a moments notice and you will be left with a big fat zero.
There are far too many forums and admin/mods who think that their position allows them to ignore the wishes of the members. It has been happening on this forum, and if it continues it will result in catastrophe.

The decline in the forum this year alone must be about 30% or more in post counts. Find out the reason why before you lose any more by catering or bowing to non members.

I may have gone out on the wrong tack here if so I apologise. But it has given me a chance to air my views on some of the things I think are wrong. Then I have achieved something

Please dont let me be saying goodbye for good.

bigboab
04-17-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by nigel123+17 April 2004 - 15:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 17 April 2004 - 15:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by bigboab@17 April 2004 - 09:23
I have only come into this thread to say what I think before, what looks like my final departure..

Really, bigboab, you can&#39;t keep leaving.

You must have read that 7thE is going to remove the script , when he returns... So please, have patience?

<!--QuoteBegin-bigboab@17 April 2004 - 09:23
Please dont let me be saying goodbye for good.


Bob

As far as your last sentence is concerned, only you can decide that. I would not consider an anti-spam script, reason for an adult to be making such an emotional plea. [/b][/quote]
Sorry Nigel


I completely disagree with you. A forum is like a pub. If you dont like the service you leave and go to another pub. If and when the service improves then you come back. Simple as that. The members who remain and accept whatever is thrown at them are the ones who are &#39;not adult.&#39; I have done that four times in the last 10 years of forums. All may I add in this forum. If you dont think that anti-spam is not a reason then you have not been hit hard enough with it. It is not and never was intended to be an emotional plea. It is a statement of fact that, that is what I will do.

Read through my posts and I think you will find cases where it took me more than eight attempts to post. It may appear that I have done some apparently childish things in this anti spam affair. Like insisting that my name be removed from the &#39;chat bar&#39;. The reason for that was, that as long as my name appeared on the &#39;front page&#39; then it would appear, to some, that I was accepting the status quo. Which I am most definately not.

As for the removal of the script. If anyone was in touch with 7th, and that fact was stated at one point, then 7th could have taken off the script there and then wherever he was. Or instucted how. It has been stated that no one here can take the script off. That must look good to anyone looking in. Admin, Assistant Admin and all the Mods and none of them capable of altering a script that was placed on the database by a previous Admin.


There is something happening or about to happen on this forum, in my opinion, that the ordinary members are not being made aware of. They are now getting things like Sportsworld that they have been fighting for, for ages. Why is it acceptable now and not when a lot more were fighting for it? With all due respect Nigel I have been around a lot longer than you. I have worked as both boss and worker. I recognise the wool slowly moving over the top of my head toward my eyes. Laugh if you will now. But remember I told you so.


Bob

rookiecrd1
04-17-2004, 04:45 PM
Bob, I don&#39;t want to sound harsh, but if you read other posts, you would see the reason things are changing is because I am the new admin. 7th is no longer the owner of this board. I am. I have been for the last 3-4 weeks. I have been trying my best to satisfy everyone. If you have a problem let me know and I&#39;ll see what i can do.

Once again as for the anti-spam script, this was placed by our old admin (7th). He programed it and wrote the script himself. All I am doing is waiting a few days for him to remove it like he promised me. Is this really a major problem? In a week the script should be disabled.

Once again, please realize that i am running this site now. Anyone who ignored members in the past has nothing to do with the way I run things.
Brian



There is something happening or about to happen on this forum, in my opinion, that the ordinary members are not being made aware of. They are now getting things like Sportsworld that they have been fighting for, for ages. Why is it acceptable now and not when a lot more were fighting for it? With all due respect Nigel I have been around a lot longer than you. I have worked as both boss and worker. I recognise the wool slowly moving over the top of my head toward my eyes. Laugh if you will now. But remember I told you so.


Bob

bigboab
04-17-2004, 05:07 PM
I appreciate you openess Brian. If you mean contact you by PM then sorry but I i&#39;ll decline that offer. Anything I have to say will be said in open forum or not at all. It is only recently that I communiceted my &#39;suspicions&#39; by PM to one of your mods. Only to have these suspicions come back to me via another Mod, of whom I wrongly had the suspicions. I always understood that what was said in a PM was private and should remain so. appranrently that does not apply when talking to certain Mods. The reason That Anti-spam finally got to me was the amount of times that I personally got caught and the fact that it was and is always going to be sorted &#39;tomorrow&#39;.

rookiecrd1
04-17-2004, 05:29 PM
Bob, no problem. I&#39;m fine with you posting problems in the open.

As for the antispam thing, I have never had a problem with it, however i can understand members frustrations.

Brian :-)

thewizeard
04-17-2004, 06:07 PM
Bigboab, first thank you for your explanation, and yes, you have been around a lot longer than I have, 11 years to be exact...You know, how I feel about you and my respect for you and your thoughts have not changed. Though on the board things have changed and we have a new Admin, who, seems to listen to us...I feel that he should be given a little slack...

Exactly because of your years and wisdom, a few words from you can cause a great reaction under the younger members, that is a great responsibility. So I would tend to ask you to go back, open bigboab&#39;s chat bar X; probably the most successful of threads that the board has ever known, and have fun.

bigboab
04-17-2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by nigel123@17 April 2004 - 18:07
Exactly because of your years and wisdom, a few words from you can cause a great reaction under the younger members, that is a great responsibility. So I would tend to ask you to go back, open bigboab&#39;s chat bar X; probably the most successful of threads that the board has ever known, and have fun.
No &#39;Hundred Lines&#39; that is a relief. :rolleyes:

Peerzy
04-17-2004, 06:59 PM
Im trying to find one post in the last 4 pages that was on topic :P .

maybe a link exchange with other big filesharing places, i don&#39;t know if suprnova costs or they will do link exchange. i agree with Jetje torrent and ed2k links are very important seeing as most of us use Bittorent now :)

bulio
04-17-2004, 07:18 PM
Maybe get us a couple advertising bots on the irc network with channels that would allow us?

and i&#39;ll unveil my other idea when it&#39;s ready :)

digmen1
04-17-2004, 08:16 PM
Ways to increase traffic / activity

First, try to get membrrs not to be so rude sometimes.

There is no need for it and I am sure it puts some people off.

I am also on UtterAccess board (Microsoft Access) and I have never seen anyoine get abusive. (indeed you are nto allowed to)

If a newbie posts a silly question, you can just have a private laugh. But to that person their question is very pertinent.

Second, you used to be able to get to this forum from the main page of KazaaLite, For a while I was not able to and now I have this board as a Favoritie in my browser.

Third, why do I have to log on each time I visit here, other sites seem able to remember your password.

Fourth, perhaps everyone is very pleased iwth Kazaa and all the help they get so they do not need to post so much ?

Finally, I really enjoy the opportunity to use this forum, I just wish I was on broaband as it takes for ever to load up pages and I only look at half of what I would if I was on broadband.

Rgeards

Digby

PS, I just hit with the anti-spam thing for the firts time, I can see why it pisses our friend off.

RealitY
04-17-2004, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by REALITY@16 April 2004 - 22:55
Also this is a BIG FKIN JOKE and makes us look like amatures. Many of us have spent alot of time on this board trying to help others as a community should, and this makes us look like a buch of RIPOFF artist. If you are going to allow these ads then maybe you should just sell KL++ right from this site and cut out the middle man. These are the same SCUM that scammed the original admins here and have scammed into their previously used URL&#39;s, this ain&#39;t rocket science, it&#39;s FKIN EMBARRASSING, get rid of this SHIT, anything is better than this FFS. You were so quickly willing to take down the PayPal logo but yet you continue to hang on to this FKIN SHIT
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/scam.gif

Enough Already.
Yup I decided to quote myself after seeing this which is rather comical
Scam Warning By 7thElement (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95878)

What does this make us...
HYPOCRITES
:huh: :huh:

Kinda Of Sleezy Ones Actually,
I Feel Rather DIRTY currently.
:blink: :blink:

bujub22
04-17-2004, 10:42 PM
:( .. i miss bigboabs chatbar :(

jetje
04-17-2004, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by bulio@17 April 2004 - 21:18
Maybe get us a couple advertising bots on the irc network with channels that would allow us?

and i&#39;ll unveil my other idea when it&#39;s ready :)
i don&#39;t like this idea, i would like us to make this board a great place just by having decent content. People will love it for that, i&#39;m against advertising on other places just because i don&#39;t like it if other people do it here ;)

let our own content be our strenght :01:

kAb
04-17-2004, 11:48 PM
I say bring back bride.ru, at least then we weren&#39;t promoting garbage p2p programs.

bulio
04-18-2004, 12:08 AM
We should atleast host contests or something, or make another members group that has prileges. This would promote more people to join, and keep the board active

jetje
04-18-2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by kAb@18 April 2004 - 01:48
I say bring back bride.ru, at least then we weren&#39;t promoting garbage p2p programs.
well that&#39;s a great idea to increase the activity :frusty:

:)

bulio
04-18-2004, 12:12 AM
What about if we hold contests, what prizes could there be?

kAb
04-18-2004, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by jetje+17 April 2004 - 17:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jetje @ 17 April 2004 - 17:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@18 April 2004 - 01:48
I say bring back bride.ru, at least then we weren&#39;t promoting garbage p2p programs.
well that&#39;s a great idea to increase the activity :frusty:

:) [/b][/quote]
I already said, let members choose from a variety of skins, including the ones that were stripped away from us from a split personality admin.

Aaron_T
04-18-2004, 12:32 AM
to attract more members add a download section :)


with all the latest releases of software nd shit updated regularly :)

bulio
04-18-2004, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by kAb+18 April 2004 - 00:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 18 April 2004 - 00:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by jetje@17 April 2004 - 17:09
<!--QuoteBegin-kAb@18 April 2004 - 01:48
I say bring back bride.ru, at least then we weren&#39;t promoting garbage p2p programs.
well that&#39;s a great idea to increase the activity :frusty:

:)
I already said, let members choose from a variety of skins, including the ones that were stripped away from us from a split personality admin. [/b][/quote]
yea, I miss the original one :( I left here for 2 months because I hated this skin so much :(

Rat Faced
04-18-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Azzz@18 April 2004 - 00:32
to attract more members add a download section :)


with all the latest releases of software nd shit updated regularly :)
We have a download section... :blink:

Rat Faced
04-18-2004, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by digmen1@17 April 2004 - 20:16


Third, why do I have to log on each time I visit here, other sites seem able to remember your password.


Remembers me ok, must be your Browser settings...

.....or are you wiping your cookies everytime you close down/boot up?

Aaron_T
04-18-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Rat Faced+18 April 2004 - 01:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 18 April 2004 - 01:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Azzz@18 April 2004 - 00:32
to attract more members add a download section&nbsp; :)


with all the latest releases of software nd shit updated regularly&nbsp; :)
We have a download section... :blink: [/b][/quote]
Ok let me rephrase that:

we need a Good downloading section :)

digmen1
04-19-2004, 12:23 PM
How about adding a Comedy Forum for talk on radio comedy and other comedians eg Weird Al, Bob Newheart, The Goons, Hitch hikers guide, etc etc.

Regards

Digby

ck-uk
04-19-2004, 01:04 PM
i agree with some/Porn can be controlled ,no extreme shit,no extreme sickos.Seeing porn etc wont kill you,anyone.Keep it to one side n it should&#39;nt spread through the board.Try Set up a torent secton for the board to share their music/movies/porn with a tracker.Your legal issues,idunno.money we I can help out.If nothing happens or goes wild you just delete it