Homeless Men Beatin Each Other Silly!

[masterpiece21]

Bumfights! (http://www.bumfights.com)

Is this wrong or just fuckin hilarious? :lol: just ordered vol. 1 n 2 :D

[ziggyjuarez]

kinda old news for me but still funny :lol:

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by masterpiece21@26 April 2004 - 01:16
Bumfights! (http://www.bumfights.com)

Is this wrong or just fuckin hilarious? :lol: just ordered vol. 1 n 2 :D
Trash :)

Peace brotherdoobie

[MalaDzen]

yea they are hell funni... hahah its wrong but cant help it...

they've been around for ages

[bujub22]

http://synystavr6.vwmafia.net/Junk/Bumfights.JPG



yah! bumfights be funny as hell i got part 1-2 ...bling bling be making me lmao

http://www.ananova.com/images/web/36130.jpg


and rufus is an animal! :D

[Mr. Mulder]

It's fucking sick, not funny.

[Filliz]

Never seen them,never will&#33; <_<
Nothing funny about paying homeless people to beat the crap out of eachother.

[bujub22]

the bums don&#39;t be beatin the crap out each other they mostly do stunts
but ppl be sendin vids in so they can show yah how stupid ppl be&#33;

like the a hole who went around robbing ppl cars in a mall :angry: what a dumass ,speacily cuz they got caught ,hell half of all the ppl in the video&#39;s got caught&#33;

[brenda]

its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is

[mortsapprentice]

Originally posted by brenda@26 April 2004 - 13:49
its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is
what she said

[JONNO_CELEBS]

It&#39;s sick, crap, not funny, shocking and very very old news :rolleyes:
That was about before Jackass :)

Jonno B)

[Snee]

Originally posted by masterpiece21@26 April 2004 - 07:16
Bumfights&#33; (http://www.bumfights.com)

Is this wrong or just fuckin hilarious? :lol: just ordered vol. 1 n 2 :D
Every time I see this guy^ post he just seems more and more agreeable.

[Mr. Mulder]

Anyone see that CSI episode with the bum fights? That gives you some idea of how sick it is.

[Snee]

Why do you suppose he calls it "typical american entertainment"?

It&#39;s like he wants to dump on his country.

[masterpiece21]

Nahh dude i love livin here in America,wouldnt trade it for the world.sure we got 2 assholes running for pres but other than that red,white n blue all the way :D and why do i say "typical american entertainment"?well we got freedom of speech&#33;one of the great perks of America&#33;and there sure as hell usin it&#33; B)

[RGX]

And the freedom to watch people desperate for money fight each other......wow, what a society of civlised beings you are. :rolleyes:

[Cheese]

Someone will pay my bum money to fight...?

I&#39;m game... :blink:

[bujub22]

Originally posted by Withcheese@26 April 2004 - 19:37
Someone will pay my bum money to fight...?

I&#39;m game... :blink:
i fight ya for free :01: :D

[DanB]

Originally posted by RGX@27 April 2004 - 00:23
And the freedom to watch people desperate for money fight each other......wow, what a society of civlised beings you are. :rolleyes:
And boxing is what? watching 2 men fight each other for money :rolleyes:

[bujub22]

Originally posted by danb+26 April 2004 - 19:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (danb @ 26 April 2004 - 19:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RGX@27 April 2004 - 00:23
And the freedom to watch people desperate for money fight each other......wow, what&nbsp; a society of civlised beings you are.&nbsp; :rolleyes:
And boxing is what? watching 2 men fight each other for money :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
so&#39;s wrestling,football and kung fu :blink:

[Cheese]

Originally posted by danb+26 April 2004 - 22:40--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (danb @ 26 April 2004 - 22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RGX@27 April 2004 - 00:23
And the freedom to watch people desperate for money fight each other......wow, what&nbsp; a society of civlised beings you are.&nbsp; :rolleyes:
And boxing is what? watching 2 men fight each other for money :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
Funnily enough "Boxing the bald headed clown" is my favourite euphemism for masturbation...just thought I&#39;d share that.

[DanB]

Originally posted by Withcheese+27 April 2004 - 00:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Withcheese @ 27 April 2004 - 00:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by danb@26 April 2004 - 22:40
<!--QuoteBegin-RGX@27 April 2004 - 00:23
And the freedom to watch people desperate for money fight each other......wow, what&nbsp; a society of civlised beings you are.&nbsp; :rolleyes:
And boxing is what? watching 2 men fight each other for money :rolleyes:
Funnily enough "Boxing the bald headed clown" is my favourite euphemism for masturbation...just thought I&#39;d share that. [/b][/quote]

:lol: :lol: wrong time and wrong place Cheese :lol:

[Tikibonbon]

Originally posted by brenda@26 April 2004 - 13:49
its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is
and exactly which utopian society do you live in, bitch?

[brenda]

Originally posted by Tikibonbon+27 April 2004 - 00:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tikibonbon @ 27 April 2004 - 00:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-brenda@26 April 2004 - 13:49
its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is
and exactly which utopian society do you live in, bitch? [/b][/quote]
a tiny place just outside america called the world ;)

[mortsapprentice]

Originally posted by brenda+27 April 2004 - 00:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brenda @ 27 April 2004 - 00:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Tikibonbon@27 April 2004 - 00:04
<!--QuoteBegin-brenda@26 April 2004 - 13:49
its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is
and exactly which utopian society do you live in, bitch?
a tiny place just outside america called the world ;) [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

i dont think he would know about other countrys

[Tikibonbon]

Originally posted by mortsapprentice+27 April 2004 - 00:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mortsapprentice @ 27 April 2004 - 00:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by brenda@27 April 2004 - 00:33

Originally posted by Tikibonbon@27 April 2004 - 00:04
<!--QuoteBegin-brenda@26 April 2004 - 13:49
its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is
and exactly which utopian society do you live in, bitch?
a tiny place just outside america called the world ;)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

i dont think he would know about other countrys [/b][/quote]
yet you are the one generalizing..........

[Snee]

i don&#39;t think he knows her species.

[brenda]

Originally posted by Tikibonbon@27 April 2004 - 00:38

yet you are the one generalizing..........
the thread itself embodies generalisation through it description of the topic as &#39;typical american entertainment&#39; :rolleyes:

[lee551]

i dont mean to offend anyone here, but it does seem that lots of un-americans think that their countries are always better than the usa. :rolleyes:

[jazzthefunk]

Originally posted by lee551@27 April 2004 - 00:58
i dont mean to offend anyone here, but it does seem that lots of un-americans think that their countries are always better than the usa. :rolleyes:
and is not the opposite also true? :smoke: dosent America think as a whole superior to the rest opf the world?

[Snee]

Strange that, especially since no Americans ever seem to deviate from the righteous path, they seem like such an open, friendly bunch, who never joke in a derogatory manner about foreigners, never declare war for their own political gain. And never exploit the poor and the homeless for entertainment.

EDit: Oh and I quite like the manner in which they&#39;ve named their intranational sports- and beauty competitions things like "miss world" and "world series". That&#39;s not presumtious at all.

[Tikibonbon]

Originally posted by brenda+27 April 2004 - 00:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brenda @ 27 April 2004 - 00:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tikibonbon@27 April 2004 - 00:38

yet you are the one generalizing..........
the thread itself embodies generalisation through it description of the topic as &#39;typical american entertainment&#39; :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
i understand that perfectly, but the way it was used, it was humorous, i got a kick out of it. but when you say it just shows how fucked up your society is........i don&#39;t know about you, but i am a part of the global society, i&#39;m not nationalistic and blind to my own countries problems.

[Tikibonbon]

Originally posted by SnnY@27 April 2004 - 01:06
Strange that, especially since no Americans ever seem to deviate from the righteous path, they seem like such an open, friendly bunch, who never joke in a derogatory manner about foreigners, never declare war for their own political gain. And never exploit the poor and the homeless for entertainment.
i seriously doubt your coutry has a clean nose down through history.......

EDIT.. i agree with the world series bit, but the miss world, only one woman will be from the u.s.

[Snee]

Lets see, no wars declared for centuries.

Hardly any homeless people.

And liberal politics in general.

Liberal abortion laws.

And "anti-killing" in general, as jonno called it.

And quit talking about "our society" as if it was a unit, we your antagonists as it is, belong to several different cultures.

EDit:
I&#39;m not saying we&#39;re squeeky clean, but we haven&#39;t done anything on the same scale as America has done when it comes to injustice these last few years, and that&#39;s with allowance to the difference in proportion.

i may be wrong about the miss world bit though, but I thought it was "miss Universe" when everyone gets to compete? sorry if so.

[ziggyjuarez]

how dose homeless people hurting eachother effect you guy&#39;s in another country.Seem&#39;s like it upset&#39;s you guy&#39;s alot -_-

[Tikibonbon]

Originally posted by SnnY@27 April 2004 - 01:15
Lets see, no wars declared for centuries.

Hardly any homeless people.

And liberal politics in general.

Liberal abortion laws.

And "anti-killing" in general, as jonno called it.


And quit talking about "our society" as if it was a unit, we your antagonists as it is, belong to several different cultures.
i&#39;m sorry, exactly which country do you live in where there haven&#39;t been wars in centuries?

and i don&#39;t say "our society" if you read up a few replies i state i am a part of the "global society"

[Snee]

Originally posted by ziggyjuarez@27 April 2004 - 02:18
how dose homeless people hurting eachother effect you guy&#39;s in another country.Seem&#39;s like it upset&#39;s you guy&#39;s alot -_-
we&#39;d be pretty daft if we only cared about the people on our doorstep.


EDit: titki: I gots this thingie called a profile. :P :)

Now it&#39;s bedtime for mister S.

And don&#39;t take it too hard, if you don&#39;t agree with what&#39;s wrong, then I&#39;d say yer right, regardless of yer nationality. Just don&#39;t call people bitches in the context you did, it kinda&#39; pisses me off.

[ziggyjuarez]

these people choose to fight,just like smoking and drinking

[shn]

Originally posted by masterpiece21@26 April 2004 - 00:16
just ordered vol. 1 n 2 :D
I&#39;m American and I don&#39;t watch that crap.

Go get your money back. :)

[Busyman]

Originally posted by SnnY+26 April 2004 - 21:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SnnY @ 26 April 2004 - 21:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ziggyjuarez@27 April 2004 - 02:18
how dose homeless people hurting eachother effect you guy&#39;s in another country.Seem&#39;s like it upset&#39;s you guy&#39;s alot -_-
we&#39;d be pretty daft if we only cared about the people on our doorstep.


EDit: titki: I gots this thingie called a profile. :P :)

Now it&#39;s bedtime for mister S.

And don&#39;t take it too hard, if you don&#39;t agree with what&#39;s wrong, then I&#39;d say yer right, regardless of yer nationality. Just don&#39;t call people bitches in the context you did, it kinda&#39; pisses me off. [/b][/quote]
Well she said our society............... like hers or yours is perfect.

Fights happen
Being paid to fight.....happens

American film making has always been a little more colorful. We do not have just one dominant culture.

You folks amaze me with your moral high ground.

[RGX]

Boxing is a completly different issue. Boxers do not NEED the money to live. they could get a job like anyone else. Homeless people require this money to actually survive, and people exploit them for entertainment. Dont start comparing organized sport with willing participants to people exploiting the poor for their own entertainment.

[Snee]

Originally posted by Busyman+27 April 2004 - 08:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 27 April 2004 - 08:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by SnnY@26 April 2004 - 21:21
<!--QuoteBegin-ziggyjuarez@27 April 2004 - 02:18
how dose homeless people hurting eachother effect you guy&#39;s in another country.Seem&#39;s like it upset&#39;s you guy&#39;s alot -_-
we&#39;d be pretty daft if we only cared about the people on our doorstep.


EDit: titki: I gots this thingie called a profile. :P :)

Now it&#39;s bedtime for mister S.

And don&#39;t take it too hard, if you don&#39;t agree with what&#39;s wrong, then I&#39;d say yer right, regardless of yer nationality. Just don&#39;t call people bitches in the context you did, it kinda&#39; pisses me off.
Well she said our society............... like hers or yours is perfect.

Fights happen
Being paid to fight.....happens

American film making has always been a little more colorful. We do not have just one dominant culture.

You folks amaze me with your moral high ground. [/b][/quote]
I don&#39;t see my society as perfect, I don&#39;t even see it as being completely of my choosing. And as for what she said, that&#39;s her business.


Regardless of any of that, is it right to use people in this manner?

It is a form of exploitation is it not? To use these people who&#39;ll do anything for a bit of food or money isn&#39;t right, since they&#39;ve got no options.

I don&#39;t agree with callin&#39; it "typical american entertainment" &#39;cuz I gotta hope every american won&#39;t agree with this kind of thing.

The only aspirations to moral high ground I&#39;d really like to claim to have with regards to this matter is that we don&#39;t have, and don&#39;t agree to, Bumfights in my country.

The rest got here through my getting annoyed with some yoyo who said "I don&#39;t get why everyone has such a bad attitude towards the US" or whatever, as if it was a one-sided thing. The attitude comin&#39; the other way ain&#39;t exactly celestial in nature.

If that makes no sense, then I guess I gotta stay out o&#39; these discussions at three in the mornin&#39;.

[Chevy]

Wierdest thing is they are paying them&#33; Go to Manchester city centre after 10pm and you get the same kind of stuff for free. Must be a lot cheaper for them to give a backhander to a CCTV provider. Leave a few bottles of diamond white lying around and you got a Battle Royale.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by RGX@27 April 2004 - 16:05
Boxing is a completly different issue. Boxers do not NEED the money to live. they could get a job like anyone else. Homeless people require this money to actually survive, and people exploit them for entertainment. Dont start comparing organized sport with willing participants to people exploiting the poor for their own entertainment.
Which boxers don&#39;t need the money, don&#39;t be naive? You think rich kids go into boxing. Boxing is a way out for the underclass and the young kids with talent are exploited. For every boxer you have heard of, 1000 exist. When they don&#39;t cut it, when their promoters give up on them. They are thrown back into their world of poverty with a retirement package comprised of brain damage.


The sports world is full of exploited people, you just don&#39;t know their names.



But....

The whole issue centers around the characterization of a society because of the existance of "Bum fights". It sickens me, honestly, and yet I am thrown into this "sick society" generalization by the morally superior.

I am tired of this bullshit. Such things exist in every country, we just put it on a shinier box and market it better. Get over yourselves.


And quit talking about "our society" as if it was a unit

Amen to that Snny.

If people could talk about their opinion of bum fights, that would be fine, but people like Brenda, just rub people wrong.


its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is

Look how irritated and defensive Snny got when he got lumped with his country rather than being considered as a person. Very atypically angry posts he made. Being American, I have to deal with this daily.

People everywhere can and will do anything for a buck. And when people can be exploited for money, there is always some capitalist to jump on the opportunity. Doesn&#39;t me I like it or approve of it, it is just reality.

[RGX]

Originally posted by hobbes+27 April 2004 - 15:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 27 April 2004 - 15:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RGX@27 April 2004 - 16:05
Boxing is a completly different issue. Boxers do not NEED the money to live. they could get a job like anyone else. Homeless people require this money to actually survive, and people exploit them for entertainment. Dont start comparing organized sport with willing participants to people exploiting the poor for their own entertainment.
Which boxers don&#39;t need the money, don&#39;t be naive? You think rich kids go into boxing. Boxing is a way out for the underclass and the young kids with talent are exploited. For every boxer you have heard of, 1000 exist. When they don&#39;t cut it, when their promoters give up on them. They are thrown back into their world of poverty with a retirement package comprised of brain damage.


The sports world is full of exploited people, you just don&#39;t know their names.



But....

The whole issue centers around the characterization of a society because of the existance of "Bum fights". It sickens me, honestly, and yet I am thrown into this "sick society" generalization by the morally superior.

I am tired of this bullshit. Such things exist in every country, we just put it on a shinier box and market it better. Get over yourselves.


And quit talking about "our society" as if it was a unit

Amen to that Snny.

If people could talk about their opinion of bum fights, that would be fine, but people like Brenda, just rub people wrong.


its sick..... it just shows how fucked up your society is

Look how irritated and defensive Snny got when he got lumped with his country rather than being considered as a person. Very atypically angry posts he made. Being American, I have to deal with this daily.

People everywhere can and will do anything for a buck. And when people can be exploited for money, there is always some capitalist to jump on the opportunity. Doesn&#39;t me I like it or approve of it, it is just reality. [/b][/quote]
What I was saying was that these boxers usually have more of a choice than homeless people. I dont think there are many homeless boxers out there that are coming back from the gym to a park bench, do you? They get a retirement package of brain damage, well I guess they cant really blame anyone else for that.

These people are homeless, they live day by day, trying to scrounge money. Some middle class dick with a video camera comes up to them and offers them &#036;20 to fight another homeless guy down the road, for his own entertainment. When you dont know where your next meal is coming from, that seems like a mighty good idea. Basically, its like the gladitorial arenas of old, where people fight for others pleasure in order to keep their living, as danb says, just like boxing. The difference is that boxing is usually a choice, for these guys its whether they eat this week or not. Im not denying that there are people out there who box for money to keep food on the table, but there are rules and choices.

[mortsapprentice]

:o you opened up a can of worms here masterpiece was that your intention i wonder ;)

unfortunately most of the world dont like america now thats not meaning individual americans its more the wonderful foreign policies of the govenment....

which aint your fault as i understand it they didnt even get the vote of the majority

anyhow thats enough of that ....

i guess what i is tryin too say is dont take it so personally when someone expresses there objections to something they feel strong about.

and to call them a bitch...... whats that about?

right thats enough from me

live and let live people :)

[brenda]

Originally posted by Busyman@27 April 2004 - 07:27

Well she said our society............... like hers or yours is perfect.


she has just checked her posts and she cannot find any reference to &#39;our society&#39;

when I said that your society was fucked up for watching such programmes (and calling them entertainment) I was not suggesting that the society in which I live in is in any way superior or inferior, I am in fact embarrassed of my own society and hope that I will someday be given the opportunity to improve it. I was simply speaking from the heart. I am deeply saddened by any society that casts people out, turns its back on people in need, laughs at peoples misfortunes, exploits people misfortunes and then packages and sells peoples misfortunes. To trade on dispair is not a nice thing. There are not many nice societies in this world I certainly do not live in one, but i do try to make it better

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by jazzthefunk+26 April 2004 - 20:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jazzthefunk @ 26 April 2004 - 20:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lee551@27 April 2004 - 00:58
i dont mean to offend anyone here, but it does seem that lots of un-americans think that their countries are always better than the usa. :rolleyes:
and is not the opposite also true? :smoke: dosent America think as a whole superior to the rest opf the world? [/b][/quote]
I believe your thinking of the French.

Peace brotherdoobie

[hobbes]

RGX,

There is no reason for these people to be homeless, it is a lifestyle choice. 40% or so alcoholics. Most are single men or women, there are many fewer homeless families and this is a condition which is usually transient, not a lifestyle.

If you are able-bodied enough to fight, you are able to work. It is a choice, you show up to work on time and move boxes, or you can simply get off your ass and take a swing at the drunk sleeping next to you for 20 bucks. Their lifestyle is simply a result of poorly chosen priorities. I like to drink, but my responsibilities come first.

A significant number of street people are mentally ill, and it would be a shame to prey on these individuals. Yes, they could all be housed in State instituitions, but unless they are considered a danger to themselves or others, they cannot be forced to stay. Mentally ill people are not stupid, and they don&#39;t like being locked away, so many opt for this life over institutionalization.

This is not really the reason I responded to the thread, I just think that the Bums do have a choice. I only commented on your post because people tend to forget what happened to all those old college stars that never made the Pro&#39;s. Do you realize how many black athletes have gone to fine schools and made lots of money for that school and ended up with nothing upon graduation. No job and a shit degree in Physical Education. They return to world of gangs and drugs they grew up in, the one coach promised to free them of.

Exploitation has many faces.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by brenda+27 April 2004 - 17:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (brenda &#064; 27 April 2004 - 17:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@27 April 2004 - 07:27

Well she said our society............... like hers or yours is perfect.


she has just checked her posts and she cannot find any reference to &#39;our society&#39;

when I said that your society was fucked up for watching such programmes (and calling them entertainment) I was not suggesting that the society in which I live in is in any way superior or inferior, I am in fact embarrassed of my own society and hope that I will someday be given the opportunity to improve it. I was simply speaking from the heart. I am deeply saddened by any society that casts people out, turns its back on people in need, laughs at peoples misfortunes, exploits people misfortunes and then packages and sells peoples misfortunes. To trade on dispair is not a nice thing. There are not many nice societies in this world I certainly do not live in one, but i do try to make it better[/b][/quote]
Societies don&#39;t make those videos, people do.

You owe me, and really all Americans, an apology for sweeping us up together as a fucked up society based on the existance of Bumfights.

I am sickened by the concept, and although some tout that these videos are staged, I am sure real fights exist.

Remember the glorified version of Bumfights called:

Lionheart.
http://webhome.idirect.com/~rlevy/images/lionheart.jpg
Honour or revenge, he has no choice...
When the streets are a jungle...there can only be one king.

edit: IMDB picture replaced.

[Chevy]

Masterpiece = Starts the thread
Ziggyjuarez = spam
brotherdoobie = spam
MalaDzen spam :wub:
Bujub22 = spam
Arcadia = objection to the issue
Filliz = Objection to the issue
Nujub22= Replies
Breda = Makes it a society issue
mortsapprentice = confirms society issue
Jonno Celebs= Objection to the issue
Snny = infight
Arcadia = spam
Snny = bring up a country generalisation issue based on the website&#39;s writings
Mastapiece= replies
RGX = "wow, what a society of civlised beings you are."
Withcheese = spam
Bujub= spam
DanB = Realtes issue to boxing
Bujub22 = supportsd sports relationship
WIthcheese = spam
DanB = spam
Tikibonon = agressive towards American generalkiztion
Brenda = Cute reply
mortsapprentice = Antagonism
Tikibonom = BItes into antogonism
Snny = Antogonism
Brenda = realises thread as being generalism (I support that)
lee551 = responds at the earlier generalization
jazzthefunk = meets generalization with a worse case of it
sSnny = Attempts to defend himselfd by general;izing the americans
Tikibonbon = Attempts to distanxchimslef from nationalistic debates
Tikibonbon = Debates nationalistically
Snny = States facts as requestsed
Ziggyjuarez = raises the issue of "what is going on?"
Tikibonbon = OPens up arguament
Snny = makes best post in the thread "we&#39;d be pretty daft if we only cared about the people on our doorstep.
"
ziggyjuarez = Makes a good point reelates to the issue
shn = takes away the generalization aspect of it
BUsyman = defends the issue in that it is relational
RGX = gets into the sub-issue "being [aid"
Snny = Talks again about the issue but defends being gemneralised
Chevy = spams
HObbes = Re=opens up the sub-issue whic is not more [ertinent
RGX = Discusses
mortsapprentice = Attempts to reopen arguament
Brenda = keeps it int he scatal framsework but differing fr ciounrty
Brothervdoobuie = clever spam
Hobbes = contradicts himself many times

Not quite sure why I quoted this but I flet it might be a good exercise to go through the thread like this. I thought it would take a minute but it didn&#39;t so therfore I am not going to correct all the spellling mistakes etc... and I may have appraised posts differently than if I had reread.

nb = spam is never made out ot be negative :)

[mortsapprentice]

Originally posted by Chevy@27 April 2004 - 16:50

Masterpiece = Starts the thread
Ziggyjuarez = spam
brotherdoobie = spam
MalaDzen spam :wub:
Bujub22 = spam
Arcadia = objection to the issue
Filliz = Objection to the issue
Nujub22= Replies
Breda = Makes it a society issue
mortsapprentice = confirms society issue
Jonno Celebs= Objection to the issue
Snny = infight
Arcadia = spam
Snny = bring up a country generalisation issue based on the website&#39;s writings
Mastapiece= replies
RGX = "wow, what a society of civlised beings you are."
Withcheese = spam
Bujub= spam
DanB = Realtes issue to boxing
Bujub22 = supportsd sports relationship
WIthcheese = spam
DanB = spam
Tikibonon = agressive towards American generalkiztion
Brenda = Cute reply
mortsapprentice = Antagonism
Tikibonom = BItes into antogonism
Snny = Antogonism
Brenda = realises thread as being generalism (I support that)
lee551 = responds at the earlier generalization
jazzthefunk = meets generalization with a worse case of it
sSnny = Attempts to defend himselfd by general;izing the americans
Tikibonbon = Attempts to distanxchimslef from nationalistic debates
Tikibonbon = Debates nationalistically
Snny = States facts as requestsed
Ziggyjuarez = raises the issue of "what is going on?"
Tikibonbon = OPens up arguament
Snny = makes best post in the thread "we&#39;d be pretty daft if we only cared about the people on our doorstep.
"
ziggyjuarez = Makes a good point reelates to the issue
shn = takes away the generalization aspect of it
BUsyman = defends the issue in that it is relational
RGX = gets into the sub-issue "being [aid"
Snny = Talks again about the issue but defends being gemneralised
Chevy = spams
HObbes = Re=opens up the sub-issue whic is not more [ertinent
RGX = Discusses
mortsapprentice = Attempts to reopen arguament
Brenda = keeps it int he scatal framsework but differing fr ciounrty
Brothervdoobuie = clever spam
Hobbes = contradicts himself many times

Not quite sure why I quoted this but I flet it might be a good exercise to go through the thread like this. I thought it would take a minute but it didn&#39;t so therfore I am not going to correct all the spellling mistakes etc... and I may have appraised posts differently than if I had reread.

nb = spam is never made out ot be negative :)
nicely done :)

didnt realise i was tryin to reopen the argument though

[bujub22]

[QUOTE]
Masterpiece = Starts the thread
Ziggyjuarez = spam
brotherdoobie = spam
MalaDzen spam
Bujub22 = spam
Arcadia = objection to the issue
Filliz = Objection to the issue
Nujub22= Replies
Breda = Makes it a society issue
mortsapprentice = confirms society issue
Jonno Celebs= Objection to the issue
Snny = infight
Arcadia = spam
Snny = bring up a country generalisation issue based on the website&#39;s writings
Mastapiece= replies
RGX = "wow, what a society of civlised beings you are."
Withcheese = spam
Bujub= spam
DanB = Realtes issue to boxing
Bujub22 = supportsd sports relationship
WIthcheese = spam
DanB = spam
Tikibonon = agressive towards American generalkiztion
Brenda = Cute reply
mortsapprentice = Antagonism
Tikibonom = BItes into antogonism
Snny = Antogonism
Brenda = realises thread as being generalism (I support that)
lee551 = responds at the earlier generalization
jazzthefunk = meets generalization with a worse case of it
sSnny = Attempts to defend himselfd by general;izing the americans
Tikibonbon = Attempts to distanxchimslef from nationalistic debates
Tikibonbon = Debates nationalistically
Snny = States facts as requestsed
Ziggyjuarez = raises the issue of "what is going on?"
Tikibonbon = OPens up arguament
Snny = makes best post in the thread "we&#39;d be pretty daft if we only cared about the people on our doorstep.
"
ziggyjuarez = Makes a good point reelates to the issue
shn = takes away the generalization aspect of it
BUsyman = defends the issue in that it is relational
RGX = gets into the sub-issue "being [aid"
Snny = Talks again about the issue but defends being gemneralised
Chevy = spams
HObbes = Re=opens up the sub-issue whic is not more [ertinent
RGX = Discusses
mortsapprentice = Attempts to reopen arguament
Brenda = keeps it int he scatal framsework but differing fr ciounrty
Brothervdoobuie = clever spam
Hobbes = contradicts himself many times





wow someone took the time to do this :blink: :helpsmile:

[hobbes]

Chevy,

What is unclear to you? Stating that someone has contradicted himself is an unsupported accusation.

I made 2 points:

1) Bumfights is just a facet of this jagged rock called exploitation, and yes it occurs in sanctioned sports as well, but it is a little more cleverly disguised. I did mention that if "mentally ill bums" were targeted, the exploitation would indeed be different from the routine exploitation of athletes we see in sanctioned sports. This is not a contradiction, but an attempt to show RGX, that in some cases (the mentally ill) the bums may not have many options to make money and thusly he may be right. Although the mentally ill are highly over-represented in the homeless community, they only comprise 20%, so most bums are just that.

As for the "other" many contradictions, I have no clue what you are on about.

2) A society is not "fucked up" because people make the video. Those people who make it and mainly those who support it are. These are individuals, making personal choices. And I&#39;m sure many orders are coming from outside the US.

I want people to focus their responses on their reaction to the topic, not the country in which it was made.

[brenda]

@ Chevvy = excellent work my friend what a visually beautiful way of reviewing a debate

@ Hobbes = you have my sincere apologies if you felt in any way that i was in any way sweeping you up with the fucked up society

[hobbes]

Originally posted by brenda@27 April 2004 - 18:16
@ Chevvy = excellent work my friend what a visually beautiful way of reviewing a debate

@ Hobbes = you have my sincere apologies if you felt in any way that i was in any way sweeping you up with the fucked up society
Thank you.

[Snee]

Snny = Attempts to defend himself by generalizing the americans
sp fixed

Not quite my intent, I was talking about attitude. Lee said a lot of un-Americans have a certain attitude towards America, and like I said before I don&#39;t think it&#39;s a one-sided issue.

I didn&#39;t mean to stick &#39;em all in one group, or say that they all did something, in fact, I said it all the way around. The interpreting of my words to encompass all of America was made by the reader.

Having said that, I wasn&#39;t being very clear.

EDit: I must admit to having had my judgement somewhat impaired, mainly &#39;cuz I was annoyed.

I think the whole business of making a generalization about bumfights being "typical american entertainment" was a shitty thing to do. It wasn&#39;t right, and not <s>very</s> funny.

[masterpiece21]

Damn all i started this thread for is to share sumting i thought was funny with others,and it turned out2b many members from different countries defending themselfs and bashin on america :rolleyes: sure america nots perfect actually its nowhere near&#33;but we got homeless men beating each other for money already and its gonna continue so why r we argueing ab it? :huh: And no mortsapprentice i didnt start this thread to make hell;tho its pretty interesting now :P

[Mad Cat]

I wrote a very big thread, but anti spam just screwed me over and I can&#39;t be arsed writing it all again.

I disagree with RGX here, I believe that you can&#39;t keep a good man down. I had stuff to back this up, but I can&#39;t be bothered typing it all again.

[brotherdoobie]

Bum Fights... Presents The 2004 Presidential Elections

Bush
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/bush_warriors.jpg

Kerry
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/lookineye.jpg



Peace brotherdoobie

[shn]

Originally posted by brotherdoobie@27 April 2004 - 16:16
Bum Fights... Presents The 2004 Presidential Elections

Bush
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/bush_warriors.jpg

Kerry
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/lookineye.jpg



Peace brotherdoobie
That&#39;s getting old. :)

[brotherdoobie]

Originally posted by shn+27 April 2004 - 18:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 27 April 2004 - 18:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-brotherdoobie@27 April 2004 - 16:16
Bum Fights... Presents The 2004 Presidential Elections

Bush
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/bush_warriors.jpg

Kerry
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/brotherdoobie/lookineye.jpg



Peace brotherdoobie
That&#39;s getting old. :) [/b][/quote]
Realy....I still find it amusing :)
Nice sig...by the way.

Peace brotherdoobie

[Chevy]

Originally posted by hobbes@27 April 2004 - 17:08
Chevy,

What is unclear to you? Stating that someone has contradicted himself is an unsupported accusation.

I made 2 points:

1) Bumfights is just a facet of this jagged rock called exploitation, and yes it occurs in sanctioned sports as well, but it is a little more cleverly disguised. I did mention that if "mentally ill bums" were targeted, the exploitation would indeed be different from the routine exploitation of athletes we see in sanctioned sports. This is not a contradiction, but an attempt to show RGX, that in some cases (the mentally ill) the bums may not have many options to make money and thusly he may be right. Although the mentally ill are highly over-represented in the homeless community, they only comprise 20%, so most bums are just that.

As for the "other" many contradictions, I have no clue what you are on about.

2) A society is not "fucked up" because people make the video. Those people who make it and mainly those who support it are. These are individuals, making personal choices. And I&#39;m sure many orders are coming from outside the US.

I want people to focus their responses on their reaction to the topic, not the country in which it was made.
It made you edit your post though didn&#39;t it :lol:

j/k

I really can&#39;t remember what that was about - sorry about that.

Fell asleep for 6 hours immediately after it was posted so didn&#39;t reply.