New PC for Christmas!

[silent h3ro]

Where should I buy all my computer shit from? I'mm gonna see if I can figure out how to build it. What hardware should be in it? Will hardware change by then ? Im confused, HELP ME!!@@!@! :01:

[Mr. Elmo]

What hardware should be in it? :01: hmm....seeing ur name and how much you posted about gfx card/comp i thought you knew how to build a comp...or at least what should be in it .

but anyways,

cpu
motherboard
rams
hdd
optical drive
gfx card
and the obvious, the case.
oh, you might want to grab some thermal paste and a couple fans

[lee551]

Where should I buy all my computer shit from?

for a place to purchase all the stuff from, you can't go wrong with www.newegg.com . fast shipping & awesome prices.

[silent h3ro]

hmm....seeing ur name and how much you posted about gfx card/comp i thought you knew how to build a comp...or at least what should be in it .

but anyways,

cpu
motherboard
rams
hdd
optical drive
gfx card
and the obvious, the case.
oh, you might want to grab some thermal paste and a couple fans :1eye: I knew that u need that in a PC (cept for the paste). I was talking more specific. Up to $1000 MAXXX!!

[silent h3ro]

for a place to purchase all the stuff from, you can't go wrong with www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/) . fast shipping & awesome prices. O yea, newegg, forgot about them, thanks lee! :D

[S!X]

Tigerdirect also.

[n18]

:1eye: I knew that u need that in a PC (cept for the paste). I was talking more specific. Up to $1000 MAXXX!!
i thought you're building a new pc not us?! I'm confused.

[bigdawgfoxx]

I gotta go to school so I cant price one right now haha but you should build one FOR SURE!!!

[silent h3ro]

i thought you're building a new pc not us?! I'm confused. :dry: ..

[silent h3ro]

PC One
CPU $155.00
AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-486&depa=1)
Motherboard $72.75
CHAINTECH nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 Athlon 64 CPU, Model "VNF3-250" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-043&depa=1)
Video Card $188.00
MSI nVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT Video Card, 128MB DDR, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "FX5900XT-VTD128" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-127-119&depa=1)
RAM $72.50
Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-026&depa=1)
Harddrive $109.00
Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD360GD, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-200&depa=1)
Total - $596.75

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PC Two
CPU $87.00
Intel Celeron D 330 2.66 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 256K L2 Cache Processor - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-187&depa=1)
Motherboard $107.00
CHAINTECH "V915P" i915P Chipset Motherboard For Intel LGA 775 CPU -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-047&depa=0)
Video Card $205.00
ATI Radeon X700 PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "100-437402" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-414&depa=1)
Ram $159.25
TwinMOS Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200, Model TMII400/1GB - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1)
Harddrive $157.00
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-160&depa=1)
Total - $715.25

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For Both (this goes with both pc's)
Case $39.00
Rosewill Black ATX Mid Tower Case with 400W Power Supply, Model "R114A Black" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-147-006&DEPA=1)
Dvd Burner $53.99
Samsung Beige DVD+/-RW Drive, Model SH-W08AEN, OEM (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-151-202&depa=1)
Tv Tuner $31.99
SABRENT TV Tuner Video Capture PCI Card FM Radio w/ Remote, Model "SBT-TVFM", -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=15-123-001&depa=0)
Fans $2.99 x 2
SPEEZE 80mm Clear Crystal Case Fan, Model "FDC08025S1M" -Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-044&depa=0)
Total - $130.96


What do u guys think? I'm only getting one PC. ;)
Thanks to Singaboiy for makin the list!:01:

[SingaBoiy]

Nevermind this.

[Mr. Elmo]

well, if you are liike your name said...hardcoregamer, i suggest getting the amd system rather than the celeron d....even though the celeron d is a bit faster than the celeron and it has great potential for ocing....it still wouldnt be as good as that amd system.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hardcore gamer, he has $1000, he can get better stuff then that.

Try to get like a 64 3200 OR even a 2500XP @ 3200XP, and get like a 6800GT.

[twister]

OK heres my 2 cents

AMD Athlon xp 2500+ or above 100+
Abit or Asus mobo with nForce 2 chipsets 100
2x 512 DDR400 ram 150+
ATI X800 Pro 400
any cool looking case 75
keep your current hard drive and disks 0
and money to spare!!

[bigdawgfoxx]

OK heres my 2 cents

AMD Athlon xp 2500+ or above 100+
Abit or Asus mobo with nForce 2 chipsets 100
2x 512 DDR400 ram 150+
ATI X800 Pro 400
any cool looking case 75
keep your current hard drive and disks 0
and money to spare!!

That might not be TOP of the line, but I think that would work great for him.

[SingaBoiy]

Keep in mind the prices of the systems is without the lcd monitor included. ;)

@Mr. Elmo - When OC to over 4 GHz (on stock) the Celeron D above nearly performs as good as an Intel P4 3.2 in most benchies. And better then the Athlon.

[Mr. Elmo]

Keep in mind the prices of the systems is without the lcd monitor included. ;)

@Mr. Elmo - When OC to over 4 GHz (on stock) the Celeron D above nearly performs as good as an Intel P4 3.2 in most benchies. And better then the Athlon.


which is why i said
it has great potential for ocing

[silent h3ro]

Yea, I was going more for the 64 bit myself anyways. :) Any other changes?

[SingaBoiy]

Get this system you noob....


Case:
RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case with 420W Power Supply, Model "ATX-822WBP" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-156-140&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Motherboard:
ASRock "P4V88 RAID" VIA PT880 Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-157-034&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

CPU:
Intel Celeron D 330 2.66 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 256K L2 Cache Processor - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-187&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

DVD Burner:
Sony Internal 16X DVD+/-RW / Double Layer Drive Black, Model DW-D22A-B2 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-239&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Video Card:
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON "9800 Atlantis" Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "1024-2C47" -OEM (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-368&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Memory:
Rosewill 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC3200, Model RW400/512 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-223-009&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Harddrive:
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 200GB 7200RPM P-ATA/133 Hard Drive, Model 6B200P0, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-140-151&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Sounds Card:
CHAINTECH 7.1 Channel PCI Sound Card, Model "AV-710" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=29-120-103&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Speakers:
CREATIVE Inspire P7800 7.1 Black Speaker System -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=36-116-153&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Cooling:
VANTEC IceBerq Aluminum DDR Memory Heat Spreader, Model "DDR-A1A" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-104&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

ZALMAN NorthBridge Chipset Cooler, Model "ZM-NB47J" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-118-214&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

CoolMax Aluminum Hard Disk Driver Cooler w/ 2 Fans, Model "133101" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-888-501&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Floppy:
Samsung Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model SFD321B/LBL1, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=21-103-203&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)


Total: $996.45

EDIT: made everything with 2 items stick out more

[cpt_azad]

that's an awesome one.....you n00b :lol:

[SingaBoiy]

I dare someone to make a better all-around system then that for under 1G.

[muchspl2]

for a place to purchase all the stuff from, you can't go wrong with www.newegg.com . fast shipping & awesome prices.yea or zipzoomfly, they have been beating newegg lately with shipping and sometimes both shipping and price, need to shop around.

[callum]

Get this system you noob....


Case:
RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case with 420W Power Supply, Model "ATX-822WBP" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-156-140&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Motherboard:
ASRock "P4V88 RAID" VIA PT880 Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-157-034&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

CPU:
Intel Celeron D 330 2.66 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 256K L2 Cache Processor - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-187&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

DVD Burner:
Sony Internal 16X DVD+/-RW / Double Layer Drive Black, Model DW-D22A-B2 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=27-131-239&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Video Card:
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON "9800 Atlantis" Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "1024-2C47" -OEM (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-368&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Memory:
Rosewill 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC3200, Model RW400/512 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-223-009&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Harddrive:
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 200GB 7200RPM P-ATA/133 Hard Drive, Model 6B200P0, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-140-151&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Sounds Card:
CHAINTECH 7.1 Channel PCI Sound Card, Model "AV-710" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=29-120-103&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Speakers:
CREATIVE Inspire P7800 7.1 Black Speaker System -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=36-116-153&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

Cooling:
VANTEC IceBerq Aluminum DDR Memory Heat Spreader, Model "DDR-A1A" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-104&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

ZALMAN NorthBridge Chipset Cooler, Model "ZM-NB47J" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-118-214&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)

CoolMax Aluminum Hard Disk Driver Cooler w/ 2 Fans, Model "133101" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-888-501&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE) x2

Floppy:
Samsung Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model SFD321B/LBL1, OEM Drive Only (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=21-103-203&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE)


Total: $996.45

EDIT: made everything with 2 items stick out more
errr 2 dvd burners? whats the point of that then?

[SingaBoiy]

So you can rip/burn 2 things at once.

[nsane]

400gb :o wtf you ganna need that for? heard of a dvd-rw? :lol:

[SingaBoiy]

400 GB aint s*** I fill up this 160 I got usually in a week or 2.

[Mr. Elmo]

400 GB aint s*** I fill up this 160 I got usually in a week or 2.


you have him 2 dvd burner, 2 200gb hdd, but advice him to go for a celeron D?

to rip/burn dvd, you only need a dvd writer and a dvd reader...not 2 dvd writer...and burning 2 things at once isnt such a good idea if you're telling him to get a celeron D

although celeron D has great ocing potential, its not as good as a p4 out of the box...and with ocing, you need to buy better rams to deal with the high fsb and more fans for cooling. and even when its overclock, there is no garuntee it was perform as fast as a p4. it might be close in everyday task, but in gaming , the celly D will show its true face

EDIT: if you are going for bang for the buck, i would suggest dumping the celeron D and get a equivalent amd chip. Most sites on the net have confirm that for the same money spent on the celeron D, the amd chip that cost the same with be a better choice.

[muchspl2]

yea I would only get one burner and a good dvd player that can rip fast
maybe better processer and/or more ram

[Duffman]

don't forget a cool xbox controller for when your computer needs some downtime.

[SingaBoiy]

you have him 2 dvd burner, 2 200gb hdd, but advice him to go for a celeron D?

to rip/burn dvd, you only need a dvd writer and a dvd reader...not 2 dvd writer...and burning 2 things at once isnt such a good idea if you're telling him to get a celeron D

although celeron D has great ocing potential, its not as good as a p4 out of the box...and with ocing, you need to buy better rams to deal with the high fsb and more fans for cooling. and even when its overclock, there is no garuntee it was perform as fast as a p4. it might be close in everyday task, but in gaming , the celly D will show its true face

EDIT: if you are going for bang for the buck, i would suggest dumping the celeron D and get a equivalent amd chip. Most sites on the net have confirm that for the same money spent on the celeron D, the amd chip that cost the same with be a better choice.

Have you testing the 2 out yourself? Then you can only go by others benchmarks. I would take that setup over an expensive P4 setup any day.

I used the dvd burner I posted yesterday and I ripped and burned a movie in 22 minutes. :1eye:

If you're like me (burning games/movies non-stop), 2 is a great idea. And it wont screw up the burning having 2 going at a time with that setup.

[cpt_azad]

Ya, if you're like singa or me, you need every gb you can get ur hand on. I'm constantly burning dvd's/cds and i'm always checking my hd space (i have 2x200 gb's and 1x120gb, total=499 [after format and what not] and i'm using up about 376 gb at this moment).

[Mr. Elmo]

Have you testing the 2 out yourself? Then you can only go by others benchmarks. I would take that setup over an expensive P4 setup any day.

no, i have not "testing" the 2 system, but have you? But you cant tell me that a celeron D would out-perform a p4. I know that the results varies from benchmark to what you actually get on your system...but you can't tell me that every single benchmark of the celeron D comparing it to p4 and Amd is wrong. sure, it has a lot of potential for overclocking, at 3.8ghz, it manage to keep up with a p4 3.2ghz....but to be able to overclock a celeron D from 2.8 to 3.8....that requires a lot of cooling and great quality ram.

besides, there is no garunteed that you will be able to achieve that great of a overclock.

im not saying the celeron D is a bad processor, but if he wants a system for gaming, i think that a choice like a p4 2.4c would be a much better option.

[SingaBoiy]

I have talked with many people in the OCers forums that have had a 2.66 OCed to over 4.0 on stock. So there should be no problem there. I cant remember what type ram they had though.

I cant find the damn benchmark they hard on tomshardware.

[clocker]

Personally I think you guys are taking the wrong approach.
I always advise customers to put the bulk of their budget into the core components (CPU, board,RAM) and sort out the peripherals second.

Why in the world would you NOT go with a 64bit chip for a gaming machine?
Get a gig of RAM and a decent board and you'll be set for a few years.

TWO DVD burners AND multiple HDDs?
What for?
If you can burn to disk why store on the machine also?

I notice that no one has mentioned a quality PSU either...I guess you want to trust the POS units typically included with lower end cases.
Good luck with that.

I also see that the advocates of OCing a slower chip have failed to take into account the more elaborate cooling requirements that the OC will necessitate...tsk, tsk, boys. Singaboy has specced out RAM coolers (useless, IMO) and a HDD cooler, but apparently considers the stock CPU HSF capable of handling the increased output of a clocked processor...a dubious assumption, I think.

No OS is included in any of the proposals...have I missed the free MS giveaway?
Why was I not informed?

Back to the drawing board.

[Formula1]

If you are gonna overclock a cpu high you need a good ram with a cas letency of 2-2-2-5 , http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-036&depa=0

BTW from what i've heard Celerons suck, get an Amd Athlon 64 bit 3000+ at 2.0 ghz , its only 150$ and these things can OC high. Better value for your buck HG , btw i know that you've ordered your pc... haven't you ?

[Peerzy]

Why does he even need a new pc, look at his sig...

@Singa - Your relying o much on that fac hat you hink everyone can OC su up o 4GHz, what if he ends up meling he chip, then what? the chip reuses o OC he's stuck with a shit pc.

OCing i think should only be done by those who know what hey are doing, hve read into it and ar using the right type of chip and above all else, Dont need to ask any help (to prove hey hve read ino it enough.)

[SingaBoiy]

[QUOTE=peerzyboy]Why does he even need a new pc, look at his sig...

@Singa - Your relying o much on that fac hat you hink everyone can OC su up o 4GHz, what if he ends up meling he chip, then what? the chip reuses o OC he's stuck with a shit pc.QUOTE]
What :huh:

[Peerzy]

[QUOTE=peerzyboy]Why does he even need a new pc, look at his sig...

@Singa - Your relying o much on that fac hat you hink everyone can OC su up o 4GHz, what if he ends up meling he chip, then what? the chip reuses o OC he's stuck with a shit pc.QUOTE]
What :huh:

My T key doesnt work :P

Here this is what i ment:


Why does he even need a new pc, look at his sig...

@Singa - Your relying to much on the fact that you think everyone can OC up to 4GHz, what if he ends up melting the chip, then what? the chip refuses to OC, then he's stuck with a shit pc.

[SingaBoiy]

My T key doesnt work :P

Here this is what i ment:
lol, gotcha

This doesnt matter anyways, he's already getting his 64-bit 3500+ system. They stole $250 from him though :unsure:

[silent h3ro]

don't forget a cool xbox controller for when your computer needs some downtime. :lol: Yea I'm still considering it. Although that PC does look kickass, Singaboiy, I already ordered my new PC (specs are in my sig). :rolleyes:

[SingaBoiy]

:lol: Yea I'm still considering it. Although that PC does look kickass, Singaboiy, I already ordered my new PC (specs are in my sig). :rolleyes:
I know... we already had this conversation :rolleyes:

I think i might be off to bed. Unless someone can entertain me. :unsure:

[clocker]

I think i might be off to bed. Unless someone can entertain me. :unsure:
Move on along...nothing to see here.....

http://www.harusami.com/south_park/graphics/officerBB.jpg

[SingaBoiy]

Move on along...nothing to see here.....

http://www.harusami.com/south_park/graphics/officerBB.jpg
:P

Still not in bed... loading this xbox with games and d/ling Lemony Snicket so I can seed at elitetorrents.org

[silent h3ro]

HEY! My thread is not for spam! :angry: :)

[SingaBoiy]

HEY! My thread is not for spam! :angry: :)
You cant see me can you?

:ph34r:

[silent h3ro]

You cant see me can you?

:ph34r: :blink:

[silent h3ro]

Oh and speaking of EliteTorrents, can someone help me cheat on the registration cause the FAQ doesnt work for me. :(

[SingaBoiy]

lmao... type in the Q's and ill give yo the answers.

EDIT: I didnt mean literally, I meant copy and paste.

EDIT: wtf is taking you so long? I need sleep.

[silent h3ro]

lmao... type in the Q's and ill give yo the answers.

EDIT: I didnt mean literally, I meant copy and paste.

EDIT: wtf is taking you so long? I need sleep. Ohh :lol: I was searching the whole site to find where to type it in. Ok I get it now. :wacko:

[SingaBoiy]

You shouldnt be sniffin paint before noon :happy:

[silent h3ro]

You shouldnt be sniffin paint before noon :happy: Actually I have a fancy for white out (a.k.a. liquid paper). :whistling

[SingaBoiy]

Yet you still havent posted the questions...

[silent h3ro]

Oh yea :lol:

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[SingaBoiy]

Go to Gameworld.

[silent h3ro]

Ok I'm in gameworld, now what.

[SingaBoiy]

Wait for my post in Gameworld noob.

[SingaBoiy]

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[silent h3ro]

Thx n00b. :)

[Mr. Elmo]

with the money spend on the cd burner and the dvd reader, why not get a dvd burner? :huh: :huh:

[silent h3ro]

with the money spend on the cd burner and the dvd reader, why not get a dvd burner? :huh: :huh: I ordered one seprately. :01:

[silent h3ro]

gaming, i think that a choice like a p4 2.4c would be a much better option. I have a P4 2.26 right now and its a load of shit and my computer before that had a P4 2.4 Ghz and they both really shitty gaming computers.