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fkdup74
03-05-2005, 02:34 AM
:angry:
i tried to be slick and throw a sempron 2200 at my old MSI mobo
(trying to put a budget system together for my mom)
it didnt like it :no:
so she gets the athlon xp and im stuck with the sempron :dry:
so for 49 bucks i went from 2 GHz to 1.5 GHz :lol:

S!X
03-05-2005, 02:36 AM
:angry:
i tried to be slick and throw a sempron 2200 at my old MSI mobo
(trying to put a budget system together for my mom)
it didnt like it :no:
so she gets the athlon xp and im stuck with the sempron :dry:
so for 49 bucks i went from 2 GHz to 1.5 GHz :lol:

LoL pwned. Arent semprons teh sux0rz? ;)

lynx
03-05-2005, 02:43 AM
:angry:
i tried to be slick and throw a sempron 2200 at my old MSI mobo
(trying to put a budget system together for my mom)
it didnt like it :no:
so she gets the athlon xp and im stuck with the sempron :dry:
so for 49 bucks i went from 2 GHz to 1.5 GHz :lol:Did you look for a bios update? And is it too late now anyway? :rolleyes:

peat moss
03-05-2005, 02:43 AM
Come on its "MOM" no problem ! You ungrateful sod . :D

Must admit the title got my attention ! :lol:

fkdup74
03-05-2005, 02:47 AM
LoL pwned. Arent semprons teh sux0rz? ;)
actually, for what i'm doing now...
i cant tell the difference
all the games and such went out on the last format
they'll come back with the AMD64 thats soon to be built :D

but she got my other 512 stick of RAM too :dry:
figure if im gonna run a sempron...
i may as well take advantage of the 333 FSB...
so the PC2100 had to go
so for her budget build...
she gets the 2 GHz and 768 MB RAM...
i get stuck with 1.5 GHz and 512 MB :blink:

i'm feeling kinda used ATM :lol: :P

S!X
03-05-2005, 02:48 AM
actually, for what i'm doing now...
i cant tell the difference
all the games and such went out on the last format
they'll come back with the AMD64 thats soon to be built :D

but she got my other 512 stick of RAM too :dry:
figure if im gonna run a sempron...
i may as well take advantage of the 333 FSB...
so the PC2100 had to go
so for her budget build...
she gets the 2 GHz and 768 MB RAM...
i get stuck with 1.5 GHz and 512 MB :blink:

i'm feeling kinda used ATM :lol: :P


Ive got pc2100 ram and its harsh teh sux0rs. :no:

fkdup74
03-05-2005, 02:54 AM
Did you look for a bios update? And is it too late now anyway? :rolleyes:

yeah i tried, but...
it was a compaq OEM setup originally...
so its a bitch to work with :P
the BIOS updates on MSI's site wont do, the revision #s are all goofed
and i couldnt be bothered looking anywhere else :lol:

plus, like peat said, its mom...
cant take something back from her
shes half my size and twice my age but shell still kick my ass :ohmy:
not to mention its the least i could do for all the shit my parents took from me :P

cpt_azad
03-05-2005, 03:24 AM
Ive got pc2100 ram and its harsh teh sux0rs. :no:


didnt i tell you to upgrade to 3200 like 5 months ago :unsure: :huh:

Harsh!
03-05-2005, 03:46 AM
Glad your not my business partner......lol

S!X
03-05-2005, 03:47 AM
didnt i tell you to upgrade to 3200 like 5 months ago :unsure: :huh:

Cant, mobo doesent support it.

Snee
03-05-2005, 10:28 AM
yeah i tried, but...
it was a compaq OEM setup originally...
so its a bitch to work with :P
the BIOS updates on MSI's site wont do, the revision #s are all goofed
and i couldnt be bothered looking anywhere else :lol:

plus, like peat said, its mom...
cant take something back from her
shes half my size and twice my age but shell still kick my ass :ohmy:
not to mention its the least i could do for all the shit my parents took from me :P
I think I could still get hold of, for example, a Barton xp 2500 over here. :unsure:

Couldn't you get one from off-shore or something? You shouldn't have settled for a sempron. :no:

Also, I'm not sure, but I think some Semprons work better on old rigs than others. I think I saw something about a few socket A boards needing BIOS updates to work with 3000s and 2200s even when they worked with other Semprons (tho' it didn't say "Sempron" during POSTing with any Sempron, using the old BIOS, it'd still work with other Semprons).

At any rate, I wouldn't buy one, unless I was forced to, and I'm not for now as I can still get my hands on more mobiles should I need them.


http://www.newegg.com/ <-still in stock :unsure:

This had been excellent for you. (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-506&depa=1)

fkdup74
03-05-2005, 05:44 PM
Also, I'm not sure, but I think some Semprons work better on old rigs than others. I think I saw something about a few socket A boards needing BIOS updates to work with 3000s and 2200s even when they worked with other Semprons (tho' it didn't say "Sempron" during POSTing with any Sempron, using the old BIOS, it'd still work with other Semprons).

nah this board took it easily
(gigabyte 7nf-rz-c)
posts as a sempron 2200,
windows sees it as a sempron, etc.
(the MSI was seeing it as an athlon cpu)

and it really doesnt seem to lag much from the xp 2400, if at all
same cache, same core (t-bred)
so really all i lost was some clock speed, and i can tweak that :shifty:
dont know how reliable this is, but...
have seen it posted in other places...
ppl getting the sempron 2200 t-bred up to 1800-2000 MHz
its doubtful that i'll try it though
seems to be running ok for the net, office, photoshop, etc.
already decided not to game or anything until the 64 is built
plus its cool & quiet, 40C with the fan @ 1800 RPMs
the athlon needed 3000 RPMs to stay at 45C :dry:

so i guess i can quit my bitchin now :P

fkdup74
03-06-2005, 05:16 AM
dont know how reliable this is, but...
have seen it posted in other places...
ppl getting the sempron 2200 t-bred up to 1800-2000 MHz

it was a lie :dry:

it took a clock of 1755 MHz (195 x 9)
not too bad i guess compared to the stock clock of 1494 (166 x 9)
but at 200 x 9 it told me to fk off :lol:
i was makin 5 MHz jumps,
so it may go @ 196, 197, hell maybe even 201+
all i know is it doesnt like 200 MHz :P

HCT
03-07-2005, 12:25 AM
it was a lie :dry:

it took a clock of 1755 MHz (195 x 9)
not too bad i guess compared to the stock clock of 1494 (166 x 9)
but at 200 x 9 it told me to fk off :lol:
i was makin 5 MHz jumps,
so it may go @ 196, 197, hell maybe even 201+
all i know is it doesnt like 200 MHz :P

what temps are you getting?

fkdup74
03-07-2005, 01:16 AM
what temps are you getting?
41-42C @ 1755 MHz :D

-edit- but i'm back at stock settings now (1494 MHz) @ 40C
went back to default after the 200 MHz x 9 failure
funny thing though....
last night when i was fking with it...
it was clocking up my RAM speeds too...
so i ended up running PC3000
but today i fkd with it some more...
and it down clocked my RAM :blink:
i must have missed something in the BIOS

-edit again-
that could be whats keeping me from the 200+ settings...my RAM
only running PC2700 :(

Snee
03-07-2005, 03:31 PM
If you can unlock it you should try upping the multiplier instead and keep the fsb lower.

Unlocking Bartons (http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e24.html) (caution, this applies to regular xp's, not sure about semprons)

Another approach (tomcattin's post) (http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=29217) (unlocking them these ways won't work with n-force tho', I just noticed. Not sure why it won't work if you turn them into what is in effect a mobile, as mobiles work fine with n-force 2, but people say it won't work)

If that gigabyte is a n-force board a multiplier of at least 11 would be a lot better.

It's better to keep it synched with your ram, so don't run it asynchronously.



Final EDit: since unlocking the multiplier with your n-force board appears to be out of the question(looked it up on google) :( You should consider some PC 3200 ram, it's not very expensive and it should most certainly give you a bit more stability. Maybe you can sell what you have now to your mum?