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keyser_soze
03-06-2005, 12:44 AM
This looks and seems to be a decent A/S app but I feel unsure about its intentions. will it be checking to see if theres any illegitamate ms products installed? anybody heard anything about it?

{I}{K}{E}
03-06-2005, 12:45 AM
nope nothing like that is checked.

keyser_soze
03-06-2005, 12:47 AM
Ok its a cool app then :) I just saw something when I was downloading it about veryfying your windows os before downloading and wondered where it was coming from.

tesco
03-06-2005, 05:00 AM
Ok its a cool app then :) I just saw something when I was downloading it about veryfying your windows os before downloading and wondered where it was coming from.
ya these new microsoft products (anti spyware, photo story, and probably more future apps) are supposed to be bonuses for genuine windows users (non pirated) that's why it checks if your windows is valid.

peat moss
03-06-2005, 06:57 AM
ya these new microsoft products (anti spyware, photo story, and probably more future apps) are supposed to be bonuses for genuine windows users (non pirated) that's why it checks if your windows is valid.


Hey Ross its called the carrot and the stick ! ;) But with ways to change your key its funny really . I'm still using Giant but if the microsoft one is half as good I'd be happy .

An other example : In China where pirating is rampant


http://netscape.com.com/2100-3513_22-5598882.html

Izagaia
03-06-2005, 04:18 PM
Hey Ross its called the carrot and the stick ! ;) But with ways to change your key its funny really . I'm still using Giant but if the microsoft one is half as good I'd be happy .

An other example : In China where pirating is rampant


http://netscape.com.com/2100-3513_22-5598882.html

The Microsoftsoft Antispy, Giant's and Counterspy are all essentially the same. Even down to the GUI. MS and the Giant version utilize many of the same .dll files as well as the same graphic for the tray icon. :)

In all- not too certain why Microsoft insists on calling this one a "beta". :ermm:

peat moss
03-06-2005, 04:48 PM
@izagaia, I tryed the 15 day demo of Counterspy.Thought hey whats going on.
For some reason Microsoft left out some of the advanced tools in their "Beta".
Turns out there is a third party named Sunbelt .


Link: http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=117810

Izagaia
03-07-2005, 01:35 AM
I tried that 15 day demonstration version myself. I guess I never really paid attention to those tools. I am still hoping a release group turns out something to unlock the shareware.

I managed to get ahold of the enterprise version. You would think that as such it would not require a key- fat chance. :(

At any rate... the MS version has a june/july 2005 date for the betas to remain effective. I would certainly hope that they do not intend for them to be in a "beta" stage for that long. But it is supposed to remain a freeware for all of their non-pirated Windows users even after making the transition. Like you stated earlier- I just hope it does even half the job as it's Giant Software and Sunbelt cousins.

Yet, I do not see Microsoft themselves remaining so civil towards Sunbelt for any extended period of time in their agreements. I suspect legal teams even now, researching exactly what rights, intellectual properties and ownerships Microsoft truely obtained on their purchase of Giant Software.

peat moss
03-07-2005, 02:32 AM
Ya Izagaia, can't believe microsoft got duped that easy as this quote would suggest!


But Microsoft also conceded that a pre-existing agreement between Sunbelt and Giant required Microsoft to provide Sunbelt with updates to Giant's spyware database through July 2007.


:lol:

keyser_soze
03-07-2005, 11:11 PM
Jeez and heres me thinking I'd just found a neat little app. :)

Izagaia
03-08-2005, 01:35 AM
Oh- it is a neat little application. :)

Missing a few "bells and whistles" that it's cousins apparently have, but nevertheless it is a great supplement to any software-based firewall/antivirus suite.

peat moss
03-08-2005, 01:48 AM
Guys ? I'd call it a neat, "must have" program . I know for a fact it kicks Spybot's ass ! ;)

Izagaia
03-08-2005, 05:41 PM
Guys ? I'd call it a neat, "must have" program . I know for a fact it kicks Spybot's ass ! ;)

Actually- I just encountered a few links that stress that point, peat. :cool:


http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,119572,00.asp

That link will give you a brief synapse of the study conducted with the additional links on that page providing side-by-side comparisons against similiar products. Microsoft's "Windows AntiSpyware" was also tested, however because of it being a "beta", those results were posted in a seperate, yet related article, here:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,119572,pg,7,00.asp





Happy hunting, boys and girls. :D

peat moss
03-09-2005, 01:26 AM
Thats interesting Izagaia, was surprised about spysweeper tho . I'm still looking for a counterspy crack . But for 20.oo bucks It might be the first program I buy!
NOT . :D

I do like this point about MS antispyware tho:

Unlike CounterSpy, AntiSpyware automatically ignores cookies as it scans--a refreshing change for those users who appreciate the automatic log-ins and site personalization features that cookies can provide.