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TheDave
03-13-2005, 07:56 PM
ok £100 is my absolute limit. i need a mobo with agp and a processor; primary role is playing games.. any ideas

Peerzy
03-13-2005, 07:59 PM
£100 :unsure:

Only problem is AMD 64 are what you wanna be getting now but they go above your budject by about £50 (including the mobo that is) but the Semperons i've heard are pritty shit and not worth even getting one. Intel are about £150 out of your bugject and are shit. Semperons are hardly gaming material, where as 64bit's are very powerfull.

TheDave
03-13-2005, 08:02 PM
fuck the budget then. i just been checking maplin, it all seems more expensive than what i thought :unsure:

TheDave
03-13-2005, 08:07 PM
whats a semprom 2400+ equivilent in pentium terms?

Peerzy
03-13-2005, 08:13 PM
Well in theory it would be a 2.4Ghz, however Mhz means jack shit. An L2 Cache is extremely important for gaming, im not sure why but it is, the bigger the better. I it has something like 256k L2 cache where as the 64bit chips have 1mb and 2mb L2 Cache.

I would susgest getting a 2800 64bit or if you can push for it a 3000 or 3200 64bit. Think though thats not just a 3.0Ghz intel chip but when 64bit Windows is released maintstream in about a year you get something close to a 33% increase.

Basically, if you want a pc that will be doing more than Internet & Email 64bit is your way to go, Intel is far to expensive for what you get and Semperons are more of a budget chip. if you can find an Athlon 2500 then get that as they are great for gaming and like £30, however they were discontinued a while ago and are quite hard to find. I think SnnY said he had found a place that had them :unsure:

TheDave
03-13-2005, 08:26 PM
hmm. i think i gotta change the plan.

my aunt said what do you want for your birthday. i said my pc's going out of date so i need to upgrade. she asked how much and i said i need a "case, a processor and a motherboard. which are about £40 each"

she said she'd buy two and i could get the third.


atm i have a pentium 4 1.6ghz so i dont know if i could get a reasonable speed increase for £100 :unsure:

help me peerzy! you know more about this than me :fear:

Peerzy
03-13-2005, 08:37 PM
I would rape your Aunt of her £100 and save up for a few weeks untill you have a £150-£170 budget then buy a 64bit Cpu, a motherboard and maybe an extra stick of 512mb ram and game away. Or play sad to your aunt about how theres no point her giving you £100 because its not enough so she feels really bad and gives you more.

TheDave
03-13-2005, 08:42 PM
i'm thinking i could squeeze an extra few quid out but i dont know about a 64bit cpu

Peerzy
03-13-2005, 08:44 PM
Well i don't know as much as i would like to but VB1234 recently brought a 64bit chip for the first time and he has done nothing but praise it. Maybe wait untill he posts for info on the best mobo and if the 3200 is that much better than the 2800 or 3000.

TheDave
03-13-2005, 08:45 PM
ok. pros and cons of this?

http://www.pcwcomponentcentre.co.uk/invt/vnf3250
http://www.pcwcomponentcentre.co.uk/invt/sda2600babox

apart from the out of stock :frusty:

Peerzy
03-13-2005, 08:48 PM
Im not sure about the Mobo, but just the fact that the CPU is a Semperon is bad, Semperons are a very cheapy budget chip and not for gaming. Im gonna shut up now cause i don't wanna feed you bad advice.

TheDave
03-13-2005, 08:52 PM
its better than what i know. i chose it cos its the cheapest cpu so in a few months when life sorts itself out and i have a job :whistling:, i can upgrade to a decent socket 754 athlon 64. but the boards not good you say?


edit: theres this for a few quid more. http://www.pcwcomponentcentre.co.uk/invt/918ad10201

it doesn't have the word 'value' attached. thats gotta be good :unsure:

silent h3ro
03-13-2005, 09:16 PM
Get a job, lol, seriously it helps. Or maybe just get a Celeron 2.66 then just OC it alot.

TheDave
03-13-2005, 09:25 PM
i got a cheque :phew:

now i have more time to think, save up and get a job :unsure:

lynx
03-14-2005, 12:52 PM
The Abit KV8 Pro (http://www.pcwcomponentcentre.co.uk/invt/abitkv8pro) is better than the Aopen board IMO. And you save £0.30 :01:

Or check out this Soltek (http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=425&category_id=103&manufacturer_id=0) board. Same specification level as the Aopen board for about £9 less.

Snee
03-14-2005, 03:25 PM
Basically, if you want a pc that will be doing more than Internet & Email 64bit is your way to go, Intel is far to expensive for what you get and Semperons are more of a budget chip. if you can find an Athlon 2500 then get that as they are great for gaming and like £30, however they were discontinued a while ago and are quite hard to find. I think SnnY said he had found a place that had them :unsure:
I can find them in Sweden (I think, haven't checked the last week) and the US, (http://www.newegg.com/app/searchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&Range=1&InnerManu=1028&DEPA=0&bop=and&description=amd&srchFor=mobile) not sure abt britain.

Anyhow, from what I've read a winchester core socket 939 amd is the way to go, if you can afford it.

tesco
03-14-2005, 03:54 PM
I thought that the semprons were just as good as the bartons?
They dont sell athlon xp anymore so you're forced to either go budget cpu or 64bit?

TheDave
03-14-2005, 05:35 PM
hopefully by the end of the week i'll have neraly £200. so i'm going socket 939, i think

Snee
03-14-2005, 07:12 PM
I thought that the semprons were just as good as the bartons?


A socket a sempron is like a barton with half the L2 cache. I think. :unsure:

They are supposed to have a few updates, but they are clocked slightly lower if you look to the number they are given. The Sempron 2700 performs like the barton 2400, for instance, is the word.

Pre barton xps had the same cache as the socket a semprons.


Semprons for other sockets aren't bad at all tho', I think, but the athlons are better, of course.

TheDave
03-16-2005, 12:45 PM
w00t. i now have £200 and am tempted to go to pcworld on the bus so i dont have to wait a week for the money to clear then delivery and stuff. :unsure: