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"I'm in it for the community"
Am I the only one who find people who say this in an invite request or give away completely retarded? Whats the point of giving an invite to a person who is more in it for the forums then for the actual files? Isn't the point of a tracker to download and contribute to the trackers peer network?
Just a thought.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
Not every tracker has the same goals.While it's true by definition that is a tracker's raison d'etre,at some the idea of fellowship is taken a lot more seriously than at others.
If that isn't what you are looking for fine,but allow that others might not share the same view.
Just a side note. Didn't you want to quit FST supposedly for the very thing that you are doing here?Or isn't inferring other people are retarded being rude?
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
No, you aren't the only only one saying that. torrent sites should be used as 90% tracker and 10% forums. As i'm there for downloading and be a part of a community which all his members are found in the other torrent sites. If I want to find a very real community then there are a lot of more places.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
Well, that's thinking of it as strictly a service, and only the tracker part of the website; not the whole website. If someone wishes to be incredibly more active in the forums of a private bittorrent community than downloading files, then I don't see a problem with that. Everybody has different reasons for wanting to join a site. Some people are forum/IRC addicts, and want to be in a private place where they can talk to others.
However, putting something along the lines of "I want *insert private bittorrent community here* because of the community", wouldn't ever sway my decision to invite somebody or not; I would base that on how much I know them, how dependable they are, etc. People think putting that in helps their chances of getting into a site, but it really doesn't.
So yes, the point of a tracker is to download and contribute files over a peer network. Trackers, however, are just one aspect of a private bittorrent site. The word "tracker" is often used to mean the entire website.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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Originally Posted by
lukee
Am I the only one who find people who say this in an invite request or give away completely retarded? Whats the point of giving an invite to a person who is more in it for the forums then for the actual files? Isn't the point of a tracker to download and contribute to the trackers peer network?
Just a thought.
Why don't you ask the tracker staff that question ? They are the ones after all that created a private community for members to come & share files, did they set up forums and an irc channel to simply bathe in the glory of the ignorance of the members who can't even be bothered to say 'hi', 'thanks', or 'kiss my arse'. This is a file sharing community and alot of effort goes into designing building and maintaining these websites. There are some that want a community, a small group of known users. Yet funnily enough, these small community trackers for the very reason that they want to be a small closed community are the ones that are so highly prized by the traders who have zero intention of being a part of that community,they're just there for teh filez man!
It is a selfish attitude like yours that your just there for the files which is slowly grinding the community down, I have seen many dedicated staff & uploaders who have put alot of effort in simply leave because of this give me it now I want it all attitude, which is killing the sense of community.
The people who design and maintain these websites do not do it sheerly for your entertainment, if that was the case why even bloody bother, just whack them all up on rapidshare or a private ftp where an anonymous leechfest can happen. NO the point of the bit torrent community is to be a member of the site, any noddy can be a good user by leaving his client running and uploading the files he has downloaded, thats the whole point of the bit torrent protocol, that a swarm of peers speeds up the data transfer because it comes from many different sources, so just being a good user by seeding files isn't exactly an IQ test, the point of the sites is more than that, and if you took the time to look you would find that out.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
community is a relative term. it could mean downloading. it could mean forums. it could mean security. it could mean emotional support. lol... many people have different opinions on this.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
Community is pretty much a bullshit reason for people who want to get into trackers. Have been a member at certain "community based" trackers, there is not one of them whos forums are dead, IRC is very sporadic and no one thanks anyone for uploads. I fail to see how that is a "community".
Of course there are always exceptions, but that's my experience as a whole. And wow, a halfway constructive comment from me.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
on kraytracker almost everyone thanks for uploads :) That's prob the best community tracker I know of, but then again most people on here wouldn't care about that kind of community, cause most of you seem to be DJ's
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never heard of a guy to be active only in forum and not in torrents.. thats really lame it`s one thing to thank and participate in forum and what you sayd
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
I'm guessing most people mention their apparent desire to be in a community because they believe it makes them appear more deserving. "Community-based" trackers tend to be small, because staff on those trackers have realized that the majority of people that use private trackers don't give two fucks about the other people on the tracker, so long as they get their files.
There's nothing really wrong with not participating in social aspects of a tracker, depending on the tracker in question. Let's take ScT for example; the known "community" is almost nonexistent, save the staff, a few posters in forums/irc, trolls, and some 4chan lurkers. That being said, is it perfectly fine to avoid all socializing with the people on ScT just to concentrate on getting the files? I'll let you be the judge.
It all goes back to what tracker management has deemed a good user. On most trackers, being a good user simply means respecting rules and maintaining ratio requirements. On other, smaller trackers that are requested frequently around here, being a good user means being an actual member of the tracker; socializing with the people, and other contributions besides seeding back to 1.00.
There'll always be the collectors who are swayed by the "levels," but if you're actually honest to yourself, and only care about the newest 0day leet scenestuff, then don't go after trackers where that's all that matters.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
forums != community
I think the big mistake of thinking that community means forums. In a great community, the forum probably is great, but more importantly everyone there cares about the tracker.
The encoders care (and are usually abundant and timely in their rips), the sceners care (equals good pretimes), the uploaders in general all care.
In a good community you will see people seeding 147 torrents on one tracker even though their ratio is already balls out insanely awesome. They love the site, that is why they continue to seed.
Additionally, in a great community, you will be communicating with other people who also love the tracker. This includes 'thank yous', ratings, and useful comments on torrents (sometimes constructive criticism), and yes quite often the forums.
I want in for the community... great community = resourceful tracker
On the contrary, a tracker with a bad community is a site with few torrents where nobody seeds and nobody cares except the site staff.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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Originally Posted by
Eargasm
forums != community
I think the big mistake of thinking that community means forums. In a great community, the forum probably is great, but more importantly everyone there cares about the tracker.
The encoders care (and are usually abundant and timely in their rips), the sceners care (equals good pretimes), the uploaders in general all care.
In a good community you will see people seeding 147 torrents on one tracker even though their ratio is already balls out insanely awesome. They love the site, that is why they continue to seed.
Additionally, in a great community, you will be communicating with other people who also love the tracker. This includes 'thank yous', ratings, and useful comments on torrents (sometimes constructive criticism), and yes quite often the forums.
I want in for the community... great community = resourceful tracker
On the contrary, a tracker with a bad community is a site with few torrents where nobody seeds and nobody cares except the site staff.
i agree on all of this, but still the attitude the users has towards eachother, and not the least the attitude of the staff plays a big role too in my book.. here's where friendly irc and forums comes in.. but all of the above is true and is the most important things.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
community can be really nice at some sites, although most people are just hypocrite with this community thing, but be honest, do you have any time for being part of a torrent community, when you go to school, have a job, have a girlfriend, got a hobby and likes to sleep? no... you just maintain your fav sites and the ones with good content and thats all...
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
non-english speaking users sometimes just dont fit in the community even if they really wanted to, sometimes its just not possible for the non english speaking user to type what he/she thinks of the subject in proper english . :0verlookedsubject:
i think its people like these that fill most of the top level community torrent sites :gamessection: playing one word games , counting numbers etc trying to fit in ,but veiwed as useless spam by the staff
cant blame staff or those poor users for it :lol:
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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Originally Posted by
lukee
Am I the only one who find people who say this in an invite request or give away completely retarded? Whats the point of giving an invite to a person who is more in it for the forums then for the actual files? Isn't the point of a tracker to download and contribute to the trackers peer network?
Just a thought.
Yeah, i agree with you to some point.
But the trackers i love the most have a good community, besides the torrents. You can find the file on many places but the hole community besides the files makes it great, and that you can't find everywhere
EDIT: sry for bad english, i really tired...
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
im in it for the mad bitchez, yo!!
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pedobear: you are so right. I only know a few trackers, which have good forums, not just "rate the avatar of the guy above you" kind of topics. For example if you say you are at KG for the community, I can accept that, because the people there are such movie addicts... if you say you are at iFi (or how they like to be called) for the community, well... not a member there, cant judge...
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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Originally Posted by
Eargasm
forums != community
I think the big mistake of thinking that community means forums. In a great community, the forum probably is great, but more importantly everyone there cares about the tracker.
The encoders care (and are usually abundant and timely in their rips), the sceners care (equals good pretimes), the uploaders in general all care.
In a good community you will see people seeding 147 torrents on one tracker even though their ratio is already balls out insanely awesome. They love the site, that is why they continue to seed.
Additionally, in a great community, you will be communicating with other people who also love the tracker. This includes 'thank yous', ratings, and useful comments on torrents (sometimes constructive criticism), and yes quite often the forums.
I want in for the community... great community = resourceful tracker
On the contrary, a tracker with a bad community is a site with few torrents where nobody seeds and nobody cares except the site staff.
Well said. I totally agree
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kooftspc11
im in it for the mad bitchez, yo!!
but you are one :cool::naughty:
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
So she's in it for herself. :O
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benchez
So she's in it for herself. :O
sounds about right
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I'm in it so I can leech some dvds and some nice trance and house.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
I joined fst for the community <3
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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Artemis
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Originally Posted by
lukee
Am I the only one who find people who say this in an invite request or give away completely retarded? Whats the point of giving an invite to a person who is more in it for the forums then for the actual files? Isn't the point of a tracker to download and contribute to the trackers peer network?
Just a thought.
Why don't you ask the tracker staff that question ? They are the ones after all that created a private community for members to come & share files, did they set up forums and an irc channel to simply bathe in the glory of the ignorance of the members who can't even be bothered to say 'hi', 'thanks', or 'kiss my arse'. This is a file sharing
community and alot of effort goes into designing building and maintaining these websites. There are some that want a community, a small group of known users. Yet funnily enough, these small community trackers for the very reason that they want to be a small closed community are the ones that are so highly prized by the traders who have zero intention of being a part of that community,they're just there for teh filez man!
It is a selfish attitude like yours that your just there for the files which is slowly grinding the community down, I have seen many dedicated staff & uploaders who have put alot of effort in simply leave because of this give me it now I want it all attitude, which is killing the sense of community.
The people who design and maintain these websites do not do it sheerly for your entertainment, if that was the case why even bloody bother, just whack them all up on rapidshare or a private ftp where an anonymous leechfest can happen. NO the point of the bit torrent community is to be a member of the site, any noddy can be a good user by leaving his client running and uploading the files he has downloaded, thats the whole point of the bit torrent protocol, that a swarm of peers speeds up the data transfer because it comes from many different sources, so just being a good user by seeding files isn't exactly an IQ test, the point of the sites is more than that, and if you took the time to look you would find that out.
That's why I'm active in the forums of every tracker I'm on, that's why I've been an FLS and uploader on a few sites. Before you start makeing random accusations get your facts straight. Half of the forum posts on trackers are from topics like "last person to post wins", "post your desktop", "what kind of dysplay do you have" etc. A user who wants to really contribute to the wellbeing of the tracker keeps his torrents seeding for weeks. I'm not saying its bad to post in the forums. I'm just saying is that its really annoying when some idiot says "I want it for the community !!11!1one!!1". Its a huge ass lie. When a person says that, they are clearly saying: I rather add my contribution to the dekstop thread instead of downloading that pack and help seed it. A really good member rents a seedbox and seeds his ass off. Everyone benefits from that.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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lukee
A really good member rents a seedbox and seeds his ass off. Everyone benefits from that.
Especially the ones who have trouble maintaining a minimum ratio I'm sure.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
Agree with OP, most of the time, I interpret 'I want it for the community!' as 'I want it for the rarity!'
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lukee
A user who wants to really contribute to the wellbeing of the tracker keeps his torrents seeding for weeks.
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A really good member rents a seedbox and seeds his ass off. Everyone benefits from that.
Smaller trackers that are better known for the socializing aspect of the site, usually contain people who are already competent and seed things for a long time.
Don't worry young padawan. When your leet userbar sig grows, realize the truth you will.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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IdolEyes787
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Originally Posted by
lukee
A really good member rents a seedbox and seeds his ass off. Everyone benefits from that.
Especially the ones who have trouble maintaining a minimum ratio I'm sure.
I excellent ratios on hard to seed trackers like SCC and ScT. Saing your connection is crappy is no excuse.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
I see the term community as being a small user-base but fast Dl-Up speeds and lot of content.A Friendly forum is a plus. :)
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Originally Posted by
lukee
Am I the only one who find people who say this in an invite request or give away completely retarded? Whats the point of giving an invite to a person who is more in it for the forums then for the actual files? Isn't the point of a tracker to download and contribute to the trackers peer network?
Just a thought.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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lukee
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
Especially the ones who have trouble maintaining a minimum ratio I'm sure.
I excellent ratios on hard to seed trackers like SCC and ScT. Saing your connection is crappy is no excuse.
Repeat that in English if you don't mind.
My connection and ratios are fine if that's what you were inferring.
I simply think people with less than ideal situations should be helped as much as possible and not penalized by seedwhores simply set on increasing their e-penises(or vaginas as the case may be) .
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
Torrent communities are like cars. They all get you from A to B, but each one does it slightly differently.
Do you want a rugged vehicle. How about 4 wheel drive.
How good do you want your stereo system?
What about comfort? I'll go for the heated and ventilated seats please.
What about a sunshine roof, or no roof at all?
In other words, while all torrent communities offer the file sharing service, each one will offer something else, depending on the tastes of the members joining and staying.
Two communities that have the community flavour, yet are quite different in how their communities interact, are FSC and Wheel Mods. Both have a community, yet both communities are as different as chalk and cheese.
Choosing your community is like choosing your car. Is it a BMW, or a Merc, or a Subaru, or a Jaguar, or an Aston Martin, or a Ford, or a VolksWagon, or a Chevrolet, or a... You get the picture.
Some like ScT, or FSC, or FTN, or TL, or TPB, or... You get the picture.
At the end of the day, it is not what the community offers, but whether what they offer is what you want. Not every community is for everyone, and not everyone wants the same.
To compare communities is to compare cars, and it doesn't matter what we drive, we will all disagree.
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I hardly post in any trackers' forum. I am too stupid to use the IRC; but I make it a point to comment and say a few words of thanks for every torrent that I download.
I seed what I download until there is no space in my drive.
Am I 'community' enough, or am I anti-community?
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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lukee
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Originally Posted by
Artemis
Why don't you ask the tracker staff that question ? They are the ones after all that created a private community for members to come & share files, did they set up forums and an irc channel to simply bathe in the glory of the ignorance of the members who can't even be bothered to say 'hi', 'thanks', or 'kiss my arse'. This is a file sharing community and alot of effort goes into designing building and maintaining these websites. There are some that want a community, a small group of known users. Yet funnily enough, these small community trackers for the very reason that they want to be a small closed community are the ones that are so highly prized by the traders who have zero intention of being a part of that community,they're just there for teh filez man!
It is a selfish attitude like yours that your just there for the files which is slowly grinding the community down, I have seen many dedicated staff & uploaders who have put alot of effort in simply leave because of this give me it now I want it all attitude, which is killing the sense of community.
The people who design and maintain these websites do not do it sheerly for your entertainment, if that was the case why even bloody bother, just whack them all up on rapidshare or a private ftp where an anonymous leechfest can happen. NO the point of the bit torrent community is to be a member of the site, any noddy can be a good user by leaving his client running and uploading the files he has downloaded, thats the whole point of the bit torrent protocol, that a swarm of peers speeds up the data transfer because it comes from many different sources, so just being a good user by seeding files isn't exactly an IQ test, the point of the sites is more than that, and if you took the time to look you would find that out.
That's why I'm active in the forums of every tracker I'm on, that's why I've been an FLS and uploader on a few sites. Before you start makeing random accusations get your facts straight. Half of the forum posts on trackers are from topics like "last person to post wins", "post your desktop", "what kind of dysplay do you have" etc. A user who wants to really contribute to the wellbeing of the tracker keeps his torrents seeding for weeks. I'm not saying its bad to post in the forums. I'm just saying is that its really annoying when some idiot says "I want it for the community !!11!1one!!1". Its a huge ass lie. When a person says that, they are clearly saying: I rather add my contribution to the dekstop thread instead of downloading that pack and help seed it. A really good member rents a seedbox and seeds his ass off. Everyone benefits from that.
I actually made this comment for the simple reason that the word community has become warped from what it should mean to something else, you now have two sharp divisions, those who run around saying I want to be apart of this or that forum or tracker for the community without even having the slightest clue what community is about, and a surprising number of these community members mangle the shit out of the english language using an online translator, now those people really do piss me off. But there is the other side of the coin too, those who laugh at community or deride the small community based trackers because they don't have the pre time of SCC or ScT, this group, the collectors I also find to be idiots because they build up the next tracker to be some kind of nirvana, and once there do very little with the a/c, and when they gain access to the smaller community based trackers which are more about a group sharing their own stuff, then they feel ripped off that it isn't what they thought it would be, and definitely isn't what they were searching for in a torrent website in the first place.
As retro said there are many different styles of trackers (or cars) so there are many different flavors out there, I like you have been fls and and an uploader, I contribute help where I can, spam like a pro when the occasion arises, but if it is a moronic topic or I don't have anything to say then I wont, but I enjoy the 'community' feel of torrent trackers and getting to know others, if not I would sod off and get a newsgroup a/c, it sure is cheaper than a seedbox.
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I do not know of a site that wants it's forum to be ignored. Seems the opposite.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
the best communities are on specialized sites that specialize in the stuff you love. at least those ones mean the most to me
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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T.S.O.L.
the best communities are on specialized sites that specialize in the stuff you love. at least those ones mean the most to me
now someones got it right. I concur.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
"Community", a term very loosely thrown around to gain access to the secret trackers high up on the WTAW.
Lukee, I'd like to ask you what else could these guys say to get into these uber-duper-super secret trackers, afterall "community" is all they have to offer? :lol:
The funniest part is how the tracker staff feel the need to defend their mediocre sites(shitty content) by hailing their "community". Comparing trackers to cars,fantastic analogy,hmm only problem is it's a godamn website at the end of the day.
Have quality websites such as KG,Waffles,Goem ever got recognition for their highly erudite and knowledgeable communities?NO! They don't use "community" to hide their mediocrity!
Go ahead and argue all you want, but everyone knows what's going around here. Kojin summed it up beautifully for me,too bad his sticky got deleted.
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Re: "I'm in it for the community"
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Originally Posted by
Eargasm
forums != community
I think the big mistake of thinking that community means forums. In a great community, the forum probably is great, but more importantly everyone there cares about the tracker.
The encoders care (and are usually abundant and timely in their rips), the sceners care (equals good pretimes), the uploaders in general all care.
In a good community you will see people seeding 147 torrents on one tracker even though their ratio is already balls out insanely awesome. They love the site, that is why they continue to seed.
Additionally, in a great community, you will be communicating with other people who also love the tracker. This includes 'thank yous', ratings, and useful comments on torrents (sometimes constructive criticism), and yes quite often the forums.
I want in for the community... great community = resourceful tracker
On the contrary, a tracker with a bad community is a site with few torrents where nobody seeds and nobody cares except the site staff.
Well said as with out the community you have no forum . I'm old school yes but learned sharing way before a ratio was required , it was common sense . Something taught years earlier , " share with others " >3
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soulreaper
"Community", a term very loosely thrown around to gain access to the secret trackers high up on the WTAW.
Lukee, I'd like to ask you what else could these guys say to get into these uber-duper-super secret trackers, afterall "community" is all they have to offer? :lol:
The funniest part is how the tracker staff feel the need to defend their mediocre sites(shitty content) by hailing their "community".
Very well said.
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lukee
A really good member rents a seedbox and seeds his ass off.
And that's where you prove you don't know squad when it comes to the true nature of filesharing. :rolleyes:
You do't need to have a seedbox to maintain a good ratio at a 'hard to seed' tracker ... you just have to be experienced in torrenting, and when you are you know what torrents you should download at what trackers.
You shouldn't be downloading a 50GB-torrent on a hard to seed tracker if you know there will only be about 5 snatches from members with seedboxes. You get that at a tracker like TL and not on a tracker like ScT.
You can say you want to be loyal to 'your hard to seed tracker' and download everything from there but that's just plain stupid and the tracker won't benefit squad from you downloading such a torrent, since you will have a horrible ratio on it due to your 'crappy' home connection, except when you have a massive HDD and can keep this seeded for an extended period of time.
You claim to have good ratio's at trackers that are 'difficult' to maintain good ratio's at, but based on your redicoulous statement I quoted you are using a seedbox for it ... I'm sorry m8, I have decent ratio's at my 'hard to seed' trackers too and didn't have to use a seedbox for it.
The satisfaction you get when seeding from your home-connection and obtaining this or that 'member-class' is a much higher than using some seedbox with an rss or irc-feed that downloads everything automatically and ups a TB in about one week when configured correctly. I can say that because I have the experience of a home-connection and the use of a seedbox.
I don't say using a seedbox is wrong, hell I'm doing it myself sometimes, but statements like the one I quoted above are sheer bullshite :frusty:
To the OP ... if you wanted your account deleted, why are you still posting here :dabs: In fact this 'community-topic' has been posted in the very near past by a member named squizzle ... I'm surprised people that answered in his thread still bother to answer in this 100th dupe/recycled one too.
Seems like a waist of time imo.