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Rather than flaunt my ignorance of US politics I will simply kick this off and watch with interest.
I do note, however, that the Dow Jones is down - is this indicitive of an increased expectation of a Kerry win? (a somewhat skittish straw poll I concede)
Democrats on the hustings are perceived as "bad-for-business"; don't ask me why, or I just might tell you. :D
Oh, okay-just for starters:
This one is especially iffy given that there could be no more "liberal" pairing from the Senate (unless it included Edward M. Kennedy), and also because of Mr. Edwards' status as a big-bucks trial-lawyer, and not friendly to business. Tort reform would be assumed a dead issue if they won the election.
Really, this is not news.
I told you it would be Edwards 4+ months ago; offered to make book on it, in fact.
Let the fun begin! :)
Ok we will let you gloat :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@6 July 2004 - 18:11
I told you it would be Edwards 4+ months ago; offered to make book on it, in fact.
Apparently Edwards has the personality that Kerry lacks. ;)
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I knew it would be Edwards as well.
Btw the Dow is down because interest rates just went up .25. <_<
...not because of anticipation of a Dem win.
Some of you guys are really reaching and conveniently left out the rate hike thingy.
Straight from the horses mouth John Kerry’s on Edwards:
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“‘In the Senate four years – and that is the full extent of public life – no international experience, no military experience. You can imagine what the advertising is going to be next year,” Kerry told the New York Times in January. “When I came back from Vietnam in 1969 I don’t know if John Edwards was out of diapers then. Well, I’m sure he was out of diapers.”
The plot thickens.
Oddly reminiscent of Bush, wouldn't you say?Quote:
“‘In the Senate four years – and that is the full extent of public life – no international experience, no military experience. You can imagine what the advertising is going to be next year,”
Except that Bush still has no international experience.
One could argue that he has international experience. It would be more difficult to argue that he has international diplomatic tact.
Not all experiences are good ones, alas.
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Correct me if im wrong... but thats what Bush had before he became President.Quote:
Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@7 July 2004 - 03:45
Straight from the horses mouth John Kerry’s on Edwards:
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“‘In the Senate four years – and that is the full extent of public life – no international experience, no military experience. You can imagine what the advertising is going to be next year,” Kerry told the New York Times in January. “When I came back from Vietnam in 1969 I don’t know if John Edwards was out of diapers then. Well, I’m sure he was out of diapers.”
The plot thickens.
At least Edwards "Public Office" was in Washington at a National Level, and not at the State level like some.
And Kerry withdrew those remarks in Jan/Feb... while they were still campaigning against each other.
You just can’t help it can you? No matter what the subject is its always turned around and put back on Bush. This thread has nothing to do with the President its about the Democratic ticket but I’ll be damn if its not turning into a bash Bush thread.
It doesn’t matter if he withdrew the comments or not he still said them. He said what he thought and now once again he’s changed his tune.Quote:
And Kerry withdrew those remarks in Jan/Feb... while they were still campaigning against each other.
I did say "Correct me if im wrong" and stated thats the same as your current President.
How has that turned the thread to "Bush Bashing" :blink:
By the very nature of what i said, it could be construed as "Bashing" both, with a slight advantage to the guy in office in Washington... I never intended to "Bash" either.
I do believe your becoming sligtly paranoid Hank... :P
Well fer crissake Hank, what did you expect?
You post a quote dismissing Edward's experience as insufficient and expect the obvious comparison to be ignored?
If you are going lob in softballs like that someone's gonna take a swing.
You are right Clocker I did post a quote dismissing Edwards’s experience the quote was from John Kerry. It had nothing to do with the Republican party or the President but you couldn’t pass up the opportunity to take a cheap shot. I’m pointing out what Kerry thought of Edwards, he had other choice words about him but whose paying attention anyway?
Reagan made disparaging remarks about George Bush when they ran against each other.
Next thing ya know Bush is his Vice President.
Btw I liked John Edwards as the Presidential candidate more than Kerry.
I think it's fitting that, at this point, he be Vice.
Aparrently you are.Quote:
Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@7 July 2004 - 15:24
I’m pointing out what Kerry thought of Edwards, he had other choice words about him but whose paying attention anyway?
Tow the party line my man, tow the party line. <_<
Sure Busyman god forbid someone put a point of view out there different from yours. But its fine and dandy for everyone to attack the President on all sides but when I post a negative story about a democrat I’m towing the line.
You are always saying that you love to be critical of all politicians but all you ever say about Kerry is you don’t like him. I would love to see you put your money where your mouth is and talk about some of things that Kerry has done.
The interest rate went up a couple of days back, B, so I don't think we lose any points for failing to point this out.Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman@6 July 2004 - 22:21
I knew it would be Edwards as well.
Btw the Dow is down because interest rates just went up .25. <_<
...not because of anticipation of a Dem win.
Some of you guys are really reaching and conveniently left out the rate hike thingy.
Kerry's announcement precipitated a bit of a drop because Edwards is received (rightfully so ) as making the Dem ticket more viable, and thus threatening to the market.
I'll also issue a wee, tiny mea culpa for stating Edwards' "status" is bad for, or anti-business; I should have couched this as a perception instead.
Hank-
We should refrain from re-visiting Kerry's commentaries about Edwards during the run-up because they were only made in the spirit of "competition" (Kerry does, of course, prefer to be the candidate), and since anything said was only in a political vein, Kerry (and Edwards likewise) should be given a pass on what has gone before.
The only interesting thing about Edwards' being designated veep candidate is it amounts to official recognition of his smile being an effective counter to Kerry's dour mug in the media; it signifies his political "coming of age" and also, it can be safely assumed, his actual status as Hillary's main competition within the party, as he's prettier than her or Bill.
As re: the question of experience, it is honestly a question of pedigree:
Bush surrounded himself with experienced hands (like them or not) such as Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice, in addition to having his father's "modicum" of knowledge behind him.
Y'know-I just realized two of the aforementioned people were black, and, by virtue of their positions are (along with Clarence Thomas) several of the most powerful people in the whole, wide world.
I wonder, on the extreme outside chance of a Kerry/Edwards victory, who they would put in such positions?
Maybe (in light of Kerry's efforts to get John McCain on the ticket) Kerry would keep them, huh? ;)
http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.htmlQuote:
Originally posted by Busyman@7 July 2004 - 15:13
Tow the party line my man, tow the party line. <_<
BTW-
Somebody posted a great joke in "Funny Stuff".
Kerry could worse than keep Powell that is for sure.
I like Powell's clarity of thought - although as a British Civil Servant, I do genuinely admire Rumsfeld ability to obfusticate.
I like Powell myself, precisely because, while no ideological purist, he tends at least to think in a linear fashion, which these days is preferable, to my mind.Quote:
Originally posted by Biggles@7 July 2004 - 17:33
Kerry could worse than keep Powell that is for sure.
I like Powell's clarity of thought - although as a British Civil Servant, I do genuinely admire Rumsfeld ability to obfusticate.
I would back him for President thus, even though he'd be only our "second" black President (Clinton having, of course, been the first).
I like Powell myself, precisely because, while no ideological purist, he tends at least to think in a linear fashion, which these days is preferable, to my mind.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4+7 July 2004 - 22:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 7 July 2004 - 22:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Biggles@7 July 2004 - 17:33
Kerry could worse than keep Powell that is for sure.
I like Powell's clarity of thought - although as a British Civil Servant, I do genuinely admire Rumsfeld ability to obfusticate.
I would back him for President thus, even though he'd be only our "second" black President (Clinton having, of course, been the first). [/b][/quote]
Whilst not washing after sex is dirty - it is not Black (surely) :ph34r:
Or are you referring to his ability to play jazz on the saxaphone? :)
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Whilst not washing after sex is dirty - it is not Black (surely) :ph34r:Quote:
Originally posted by Biggles+7 July 2004 - 17:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Biggles @ 7 July 2004 - 17:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@7 July 2004 - 22:41
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@7 July 2004 - 17:33
Kerry could worse than keep Powell that is for sure.
I like Powell's clarity of thought - although as a British Civil Servant, I do genuinely admire Rumsfeld ability to obfusticate.
I like Powell myself, precisely because, while no ideological purist, he tends at least to think in a linear fashion, which these days is preferable, to my mind.
I would back him for President thus, even though he'd be only our "second" black President (Clinton having, of course, been the first).
Or are you referring to his ability to play jazz on the saxaphone? :) [/b][/quote]
No, actually it was a sincere and misguided overstatement of his supposed empathy for blacks, the genesis of which is a mystery to me; he was lousy on the sax.
Anyway, here you go-
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page...T20011001e.html
http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/sto...-10698905c.html
http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4+7 July 2004 - 16:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 7 July 2004 - 16:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@7 July 2004 - 15:13
Tow the party line my man, tow the party line. <_<
I stand corrected....I guess. :blink:
I stand corrected....I guess. :blink: [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman+7 July 2004 - 21:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 7 July 2004 - 21:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@7 July 2004 - 16:37
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@7 July 2004 - 15:13
Tow the party line my man, tow the party line. <_<
http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html
Don't mind me, B.-
Just being my fastidiously picky self. ;)